1998/03/21 22:37
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #214
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 214
Today's Topics:
Re: Some needed levity - more shit [ Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.te ]
Re: Past Lives-Ramana Maharshi+ [ Stuart <stuartfATnospamdimensional.com> ]
Re: White Stone [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: Gurus and Professors [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
RE: Discovering the reptile within [ Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley ]
Re: Gurus and Professors [ SIRaCH9310 <SIRaCH9310ATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Gurus and Professors (correction [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: Gurus and Professors [ Angela Mary Broad <ambroadATnospamacs.ucal ]
Re: Past Lives-Ramana Maharshi+ [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Bob Jones <bobjonesATnospamco.tds.net> ]
weird sensation. [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
RE: PRANAYAMA [ "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <93035 ]
=?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_Personal_Genius._ [ "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <93035 ]
RE: God As Perfection-God as Perfect [ "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <93035 ]
Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #212 [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
Re: street lights and K? [ Delirium <deliriumATnospamfull-moon.com> ]
Re: street lights and K? [ Dan Margolis <margolisATnospamtransbay.net ]
Re: Gurus and Professors [ Roberto Gonzales <rgvgATnospamyahoo.com> ]
Gloria Greco leaves the list and sen [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: White Stone [ Roberto Gonzales <rgvgATnospamyahoo.com> ]
Past Lives [ Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com> ]
Ramana Maharshi+ Books [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 22:16:25 +0100
From: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Some needed levity - more shit
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Hi sweetheart! :)
At 14:36 1998.03.21 -0500, you wrote:
>Danijel Turina wrote:
>>Kunalinism: This shit will get us enlightened.
>
>Good one.
>You are one wild and wacky guy.
No shit? ;)))) LOL :)))))))
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 14:35:49 -0700
From: Stuart <stuartfATnospamdimensional.com>
To: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Past Lives-Ramana Maharshi+
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Harsha1MTM wrote:
> My favorite is "Talks with Ramana Maharshi" recorded between
> 1935-1939. I believe that book itself can serve as somone's Guru and lead to
> Self-Realization! The True Guru is Always the Self that is the Heart of All.
> Words of Realized Saints have the power to reveal That Eternal Silence which
> has Always been Here Whose Nature is Self-Existent.
I couldn't have said it better ;)
I'll have to look around for this one, Amazon doesn't seem to have it listed. Can
you recommend any other of his titles?
Peace
Stuart
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 16:50:17 -0500
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: White Stone
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Welcome to the list, Robert.
Here is what I thought of when I read your question. First I remembered the
stone that my daughter bought her beau. It is a small grey stone with the
word "LUCK" carved into it. Then I remembered the somewhat larger stone I
wish I had purchased when I visited Devil's Tower last year. On one side
was carved a petroglyph of a dancing warrior and on the other was the word
"Magic." I picked up another stone from the basket and it said "Courage,"
with a picture of a bear carved into the other side. There were other
stones which said other things but I am not sure, perhaps they were
"Faith," "Knowledge," "Freedom." I wanted them all! At $17.50 a piece and
my vacation only half over I was afraid to spend the money. Perhaps the
"courage" stone would've been the best buy, had I been forced to choose,
LOL. On the other hand, I did pick up the "Magic" first, I think... maybe.
For what it's worth,
amckeon
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 17:32:33 -0500
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Gurus and Professors
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Jeanne wrote:
>--or, for that
>matter, through listening to discourses of sidewalk philosophers, or
>messages on the internet.
I used to work at a drop-in center for the "mentally ill." One of the men
there turned to me one day and said "You used to laugh when you were in
pain, but now you use laughter as medicine." It was one of the most
insightful things anyone had ever said to me.
for what it's worth,
amckeon
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 15:39:53 -0800
From: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
To: "'Anurag Goel'" <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
Cc: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: Discovering the reptile within
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-----Original Message-----
From: Anurag Goel [SMTP:anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in]
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 1998 2:10 AM
To: keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Discovering the reptile within
On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Kurt Keutzer wrote:
>
> The post regarding African shamanism and kundalini sparked me to pose a
> comment I've been musing about.
> I'm increasing tending to believe that kundalini is not a phenomenon of
our
> higher cortical brain faculties but rather the more primitive
``reptilian''
> portions of our brain. So I'm inclined to forget about relationships
> between kundalini and genius.
Anurag> Kundalini shouldn't be the phenomenon of either higher cortical
brain faculties or of more primitive "reptilian" portions of our
brian. Through kundalini energy is fed to every part of body
chakras bieng the main centers of ditribution. Have you practised
Pranayama? During Pranayama itself you will feel that your blocked
paths in head has opened. Once one has control over mind and
one's all nerve paths are opened ina sense that the life force
flows in them then one can turn in to a genius. Awakening of
Kundalini involves body and mind, so it should affect individual
as a whole.
Kalidas became a great poet when his VISUDHA CHAKRA was awakened
by the GURU.
KK: I think we are a little out of sync here. I just made a post regarding
an instance of one of my teachers suddenly becoming an active poet and
musician in his 70's.
My thinking on this kind of thing evolves every week. I build models - see
something new - change them. Right now I'm beginning to wonder if Gloria is
was not right all along. Kundalini raises the vibrational rate and then you
are suitable for attunement to the descent of grace.
Brainwise - thought starts in the more primitive parts of the brain. I
believe that kundalini amplifies this. Thought becomes stronger. As for
kundalini creating poetry. I don't think that every poet was kundalini
awakened. I do think that kundalini can enhance creative energy and remove
blocks to creativity but I don't see it (today) as a fount of genius.
Kind Regards,
Kurt
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:04:58 EST
From: SIRaCH9310 <SIRaCH9310ATnospamaol.com>
To: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com, janbarenATnospaminfase.es, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Gurus and Professors
Message-ID: <a6347510.351455acATnospamaol.com>
Isnt Osho The ex Bhagwan Sri Rajnessh? Moses gives,Jesus saves and Bhagwan
spends.. He also said.....don't just do something, sit there!
Anyone familiar with Gurdjeiffs comments about Kundalini? I have heard he said
she said type stuff about his invalidation of the whole notion of Kundalini.
Anyone have clue as to what I am talking about?
Peace1 Alan
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 18:35:12 -0500
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Gurus and Professors (correction)
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I wrote:
>I used to work at a drop-in center for the "mentally ill." One of the men
>there turned to me one day and said "You used to laugh when you were in
>pain, but now you use laughter as medicine." It was one of the most
>insightful things anyone had ever said to me.
Actually, my dear, what he said to you was "You used to use laughter to
hide, now you use it for medicine."
mind like a steel flap,
amckeon
"It is okay to talk to yourself as long as you answer back." :)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 17:35:14 -0700 (MST)
From: Angela Mary Broad <ambroadATnospamacs.ucalgary.ca>
To: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Gurus and Professors
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Hello!
I had been meaning to ask that question eventually but everyone seemed to
know...so I didn't...but hey; I get it all the time!!!!!!!
An electrical charge when doing certian things, or reading meaningfull
words, or looking into incredible eyes that speak volumes....soul's in a
trance...
Last night our choir had one of the best performances of the year and
personally, I felt like an a big radiant energy magnet. Afterwards, when
I got home, I was totally drained. I went to sleep, had one fairly quick
dream and then lay in my bed buzzing all night, wide awake!!! The energy
just wouldn't leave.
A few questions with regards to this;
What is shakti? and do these situations sound like it?
If it is neccisary to stop it or calm it down, for purposes of sleep and
sanity, how would I do that? I've tried pranayama, that was how I got to
sleep the first time but it didn't seem to last.
There is a psychic fair comming to Calgary this comming weekend; and
seeing as I have wanted a past life regression for some time now; well
let's just say it feels like the "some time" should be "now" :) :) :)
I don't know the first thing about how they do the regressions and I'm a
little concerned it won't be accurate because my own longings to have
lived in a certian time or situation (not the normal famous person ones,
but things like being very attracted to a certain country, person or time
period)
will get in the way, and create a false past life or lives. Is there any
way to know this, and can I avoid it in some way?
If any of you have any advice whatsoever, however trivial it may seem I
would love to hear it :)
A (way too) open minded seeker of truth :):):) lol :):):)
LOVE and LIGHT!!!!! to you all....
Blessings,
Angie
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:38:47 EST
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: stuartfATnospamdimensional.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Past Lives-Ramana Maharshi+
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In a message dated 98-03-21 16:35:20 EST, stuartfATnospamdimensional.com writes:
<< I couldn't have said it better ;)
I'll have to look around for this one, Amazon doesn't seem to have it listed.
Can
you recommend any other of his titles?
>>
Harsha: Certainly. Go to the Web and find the official Home page for Sri
Ramanashram. I found it just a few months ago myself! They have all the books
written by the Sage's devotees who either recorded the conversations or wrote
about Him. S.S. Cohen, Major Chadwick (Sadhu Arunachala) are two western
devotees who come to mind who are beautiful writers. My all time favorite
remains "Talks with Ramana Maharshi" by Ramananda Sarswati (1935-1939). It was
the only book about Ramana that I had when I was young. I was initiated by
Ramana Maharshi over 20 years ago in a dream. It Forged a clear link to my
past. From that point He simply dominated my consciousness. To me that Book
about Ramana by Ramananda Sarswati became living instructions. Almost 18 years
ago I had that Book by my side when one day with my back sore from meditating
for 4 hours or so, I simply lay down and went into Kevala Nirvikalpa Samadhi.
Interestingly, 8 years ago someone borrowed that Book and did not return it. I
felt shy but asked back for it a couple of time but that person had lent it to
someone else. The book was never returned. After a while I reconciled myself
to it. About a month ago, after I found the web site, I ordered about 20 of
the books on the great Sage, most of which I had not even heard of before.
Well you can imagine my Joy! Truly He is the great Sage among
Sages........Harsha
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 15:37:47 -1000 (HST)
From: Bob Jones <bobjonesATnospamco.tds.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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Recently I have started having some involuntary undulations and
trembling of my body while doing some focused visualizations looking
at a picture of Christ. I am in an altered state at the time.
This also occurred 5 years ago when I was also doing some intense
spiritual work. Am I having a kundalini experience?
For the last 6 months I have also been experiencing lots of physical problems (unusual for me). This includes extreme pain in my legs,
kidney weakness, parasites, and a recent episode of sweating,
shortness of breath and diarrhea. What is going on?
How do I access list? Did I miss that info?
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 20:22:43 -0600 (CST)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: weird sensation.
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just a question for y'all.
ever feel like your heart center is 'pregnant'?
i cant think of another word to describe this.
--janpa
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 20:07:28 -0600
From: "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe>
To: "Anurag Goel" <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: PRANAYAMA
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Anurag:
You wrote:
Have you practised Pranayama?
During Pranayama itself you will feel that your blocked
> paths in head has opened. Once one has control over mind and
> one's all nerve paths are opened ina sense that the life force
> flows in.
>Love,
>anurag
>
I am very ienterested on this. I haven´t heard about it. Once I experieced
full awareness of my nevous and energetic system while could actually feel
it´s cleansing and prurifiying. I became tuned in with nature and felt good
about the contact between myself and everything for a while. But that hasn´t
happened to me again. And diferent situations have led me to "gain the
weight" and burden "over my shoulders again.
Could you or someone else please explain me what Pranayama is about? Texts
are very hard to find here in Lima-Peru, so I would really aprectiate a
title on a reliable book as well to order it on the internet.
Thanks
Roberto.
Love Makes the world go round. Let´s keep on spinning the wheel!
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 20:48:03 -0600
From: "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe>
To: "Druout" <DruoutATnospamaol.com>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: Personal Genius. Glad some don´t give it much a deal.
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Hi Hillary:
It´s always good to hear from you.
First I´d like to point out that I don´t give that much a deal to the genius
thing. All geniuses creations have been twisted by the ego of leading man.
K has given very wonderful things bet the one that impresses me the mosthas
to do with languaje languaje. I speak and it is like words are coming
through my mouth but no from my mind. Like i got possesed by something
bigger than me which I cannot understand and suddenly I say something to me
listener that is exactly what he/she was craving for. I can actually see the
light in their eyes. That is why I have become used to saying "No me des la
gracias, dale gracias a la vida" ("Don´t thank me, thank life instead".
I have realized it is all part of a puzzle that is why there are signs
everwhere because the pieces must fit. Every look in the eye you have been
given needed to happen it is a share of information and energy that was
somehow meant to be.
Love
Roberto.
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 21:18:27 -0600
From: "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: God As Perfection-God as Perfect Awareness
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Hi list members:
I have been readind this posts until I had to give my point of view and tell
the way they saw it in ancient Peru aswell.
Creation tends to be both sides of the coin. You can eat a wnderfull fruit
and calm you hunger and thrist with it and you can eat the leaves of Cicuta
(which squared minded people used to kill Socrates).
Perfection is in the end of duality so if the utopic idea of a god out there
(in which I certainly believe, utopic is a concept for humans only) tends to
put him as not dual. However, one must accept the duality. It is there
always. Good vs evil, Ying and Yang, Left and Right, etc. Even the DNA
estructure (the molecule of Life) is dual and exactly the same (two SNAKE
like strains wraped around one another). Ancient cultures all over have been
dealing and describing this duality (and this tween sanke symbol) biologists
happened to "discover" a few years ago. So creation is not to say perfect or
imprefect. There is a creator, a source and in that sense He/She/It must be
seen as perfect as our little self can imagine it. But we cannot understand
it. It is too egocentric trying to.
Incas are said to had worshipped the SUN. But that is the spanish-cristian
intrepretation.
When you go places here in Peru where civilazation hasen´t been taken away
totally from origins yet, they will explain you that they worship the sun as
a Symbol for another SUN, "Which cannot be seen by the outter eye". And that
is the real source for them. You can feel it but you cannot understand it in
this lifetime. Why try to? Anyway. Cosmic awareness has been common to most
ancient cultures. Until greed took over but that´s a whole other trip.
Love heals, greed steals.
Roberto.
"...a Greek philosopher (Probably Aristotle) describing the nature of God.
He reasoned that God must be Perfect but wondered what a Perfect God does. A
Perfect God of course must Contemplate on Perfection, reasoned Aristotle.
But since there is only One Perfection, which is God Itself, God must be
Contemplating His Own Self, concluded the great philosopher. I was
completely struck and spellbound by those
statements. I was 17 and did not yet know the nature of the
Self-Recognition.
But even through the thick layers of illusion, it was as if eternity smiled
at me and started whispering sweet nothings in my ear.......
The Sufi Ibn Al-Arabi develops this idea saying that only in Mans
contemplation of God is the perfection Realised. In other words God created
imperfection in>order that His Perfection would be known.
Lobster saying Nothing
Glo Lee knowing I ought to know better than to say anything..but:
Difficult as this may be to articulate in mere words...somehow the
Perfection IS realized through A Seeming Imperfection, which is
actually perfect; its just our perception (of IT) may be imperfect. Do
you see any imperfection in Nature?? Is the essential being of a newborn
baby imperfect?? Are the birds just practicing to learn to sing better??
Flowers are striving to improve themselves?? Does God create
imperfectly?? Some design flaw there He just overlooked?? Hmmm??? Help me
out here someone, please..nothing against the Sufi guy, but what is it
exactly wrong with God's "imperfect creation??"
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 20:32:44 -0600 (CST)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #212
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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 101 17:55:47 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: hlutharATnospambryant.edu
Cc: Deu83ATnospamaol.com, Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: universal approach
Message-Id: <1010320175547.n0001940.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>
<<on 20 Mar 98, hlutharATnospambryant.edu wrote...
2. Zen teachers, Gurdiefiian types, hot tempered Tantrics from Buddhism and
Hinduism abuse their Chelas on a regular divine inspired basis. Why? Because God
is Love. Go figure!>>
my zen master never abused me. knocked me off my zafu, but we both ended
up laughing, it was actually pretty funny.
me thinks ur exaggerating a wee bit....
--janpa
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 21:06:40 +0000
From: Delirium <deliriumATnospamfull-moon.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, Kundalini-P List <kundalini_pATnospamonelist.com>
Subject: Re: street lights and K?
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Mystress wrote...
> As a final note, if you are having a lot of trouble with lighbulbs
and
>electronics going foom, then the best thing is to get very grounded and
>change yourself.
& Bob questioned:
Just a question from a curious newcomer: has anyone else noticed a
tendency for street lights to go out when you're around them? It
seems to me that this happens with inordinate frequency to me, and
I've heard others on occasion mention the same phenomenon....
__________________& Delirium replied________
I have, and have also dubbed it "my guardian angel (daffy duck) flying
into the light poles" syndrome...
<grinning>...but seriously, yes, it happens to me all the time. I
wondered for a while if maybe my car headlights had a "dazzling" effect
on the mercury vapor lights and made them "go out" for a moment...
Curious...FWIW
Delirium
(cross posting to k and k symptoms lists)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 19:05:52 -0800
From: Dan Margolis <margolisATnospamtransbay.net>
To: deliriumATnospamionet.net
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: street lights and K?
Message-ID: <31521910.BAA3D7A5ATnospamtransbay.net>
Of course most street lights operate on a light sensor to tell when it's
dark. If your headlights happen to graze that sensor, they'll go out.
Dan M.
Delirium wrote:
> Mystress wrote...
>
> > As a final note, if you are having a lot of trouble with lighbulbs
> and
> >electronics going foom, then the best thing is to get very grounded and
>
> >change yourself.
>
> & Bob questioned:
>
> Just a question from a curious newcomer: has anyone else noticed a
> tendency for street lights to go out when you're around them? It
> seems to me that this happens with inordinate frequency to me, and
> I've heard others on occasion mention the same phenomenon....
>
> __________________& Delirium replied________
>
> I have, and have also dubbed it "my guardian angel (daffy duck) flying
> into the light poles" syndrome...
>
> <grinning>...but seriously, yes, it happens to me all the time. I
> wondered for a while if maybe my car headlights had a "dazzling" effect
> on the mercury vapor lights and made them "go out" for a moment...
>
> Curious...FWIW
>
> Delirium
>
> (cross posting to k and k symptoms lists)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:15:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Roberto Gonzales <rgvgATnospamyahoo.com>
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Gurus and Professors
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What a nice post:
Many outsiders would consider us nuts or "mentally ill" if they read
our posts anyway.
Fantastic!
Let´s keep on spinning the wheel!
Roberto.
> Jeanne wrote:
>
> >--or, for that
> >matter, through listening to discourses of sidewalk philosophers, or
> >messages on the internet.
>
> I used to work at a drop-in center for the "mentally ill." One of
the men
> there turned to me one day and said "You used to laugh when you were
in
> pain, but now you use laughter as medicine." It was one of the most
> insightful things anyone had ever said to me.
>
> for what it's worth,
> amckeon
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:57:32 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Gloria Greco leaves the list and sends love to all
Message-ID: <35140D9B.54B3ATnospamintercomm.com>
K list friends,
I have decided to go off of the list for a while. I am very busy right
now with my three little foster girls, 5 year old Savannah, 8 yr old
Sarah and Shannon who is 11. This girls have lived in and out of motel
rooms for most of their life and in the park at times even. So, my
husband and I are initiating some big changes in their life, which also
involves some changes in ours as well.
I have enjoyed meeting all of you and will come back if and when spirit
moves me in that direction. I have finished my kundalini experience book
and it is going to be read by several possible publishers, I will let
you know if and when it is out there if any of you are interested.
Until then, and I know I have to do the right process in order to get
off, but I will do it and sign off for now. Love to all of you. Gloria
Joy Greco
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:58:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Roberto Gonzales <rgvgATnospamyahoo.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: White Stone
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Stones woth words on them make great souveniers. Methafores make great
souveniers also.
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:21:08 EST
From: Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com>
To: ambroadATnospamacs.ucalgary.ca
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Past Lives
Message-ID: <2988c7d6.351491b6ATnospamaol.com>
Angie writes:
<< I don't know the first thing about how they do the regressions and I'm a
little concerned it won't be accurate because my own longings to have
lived in a certian time or situation (not the normal famous person ones,
but things like being very attracted to a certain country, person or time
period) will get in the way, and create a false past life or lives. Is
there any
way to know this, and can I avoid it in some way? >>
I would say to just allow the hypnotherapist to take control of the situation
and go where he/she leads you. You may want to tell her/him about your
attraction to certain countries/persons/times prior to the regression, and if
you are interested in looking into those, you can be lead there too. I've
done this with clients and found different situations -- sometimes when I lead
them to a certain time period, for instance, they'll go to a completely
different time. Sometimes we'll look for a certain person, and they may or
may not be there. I've found that going to several past lives there is no
real sequence -- it jumps from say, the 1700's to 1900's and then back to
1800's, etc. You can't ever really tell what will occur. It's always fun
and interesting, with the majority of past lives being rather boring, but
fasinating to see.
We cannot say for sure whether past lives are real or not, so why worry about
whether or not you will go into a false life. Just do it for the fun of it.
If you are visual, it will be very vivid and memorable. If you are audio or
kinesthetic, there are other techniques that can bring great vividness to your
experience, just as if you were there, with feelings. The hypnotherapist can
allow you to watch it on a movie screen and/or actually be as if you are in
the movie. They should know when or if to put you on the screen or in the
audience.
You will find that pictures/memories just pop up in your mind - no need to
search for anything or pre-plan or have to think about it. Just relax, allow
the hypnotherapist to lead you, and have a good time.
xxxtg
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 20:30:28 -0800
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
To: Stuart <stuartfATnospamdimensional.com>
CC: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Ramana Maharshi+ Books
Message-ID: <351493D7.B94A2758ATnospamgeocities.com>
Dear Stuart !
You may try out the following:
1. Teachings of Ramana Maharshi
2.Ramana maharshi and the path of Self Knowledge
3.The collected works of Ramana Maharshi
all edited by Arthur Osborne published by Samuel Weiser Inc, York Beach, Maine. USA.
All copyrighted by Ramanashram , India, in 1962
It could be helpful.
Ananndajyoti
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
Stuart wrote:
> Harsha1MTM wrote:
>
> > My favorite is "Talks with Ramana Maharshi" recorded between
> > 1935-1939.
Stuart>
> I'll have to look around for this one, Amazon doesn't seem to have it listed. Can
> you recommend any other of his titles?
>
> Peace
> Stuart
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