1998/03/20 20:30
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #210
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 210
Today's Topics:
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
plant story [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
Re: Gurus and Professors [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Re: God As Perfection-God as Perfect [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
(Fwd) (Fwd) Re: [ "Georgia" <6751202XATnospamMMU.AC.UK> ]
Re: gurus redux [ "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo. ]
Re: gurus redux [ "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo. ]
Hi guys Check this out!!! [ "Cara McCormack" <caradeepaATnospamhotmail ]
Re: bubble spells [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
Re: Prannothana? [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
Re: Prannothana? [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:04:26
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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This is really beautiful.. Robert, you are why this list was created..
Blessed be.
At 09:43 19/03/98 -1000, Robert h. Krueger wrote:
>Intro as requested;
> My name is Robert, age 50, USA, I purcased thiis equipment for the
spacific purpose of hooking up to your web sight two weeks ago.
That is amazing. I find I am very curiously wondering how you heard about
the site in the first place, if you were not on the net? How did you first
hear about K. and learn you are awakened?
>I am an honest and sincere person,and my intentions are good, however if i
error in >sone way or form, Please forgive me and help straighten it out.
Don't worry, I'll spank ya if you get outa line.. (grin).. but it is
true, cyberspace is a world of it's own, with it's own customs and
mannerisms.. I am not sure if you can do a web search from WebTV, but a net
search on "nettiquite" will turn up lessons, then you can feel more at home
and not worry.
> I have been living with this phonomen for 28+ years.
I'd believe it.. your vibe is very deeply grounded, and sweet. It is
yummy. I look forward to your future sharing, to taste it again.
Ah.. mebbie I oughta explain that.. K. awakens Psi ability, as you likely
already discovered, and the energy rides the net. I feel your personality,
when I read your words.
I am touched by your humility, but I hope you understand that you have a
gift of uniqueness in your perspective that we look forward to recieving. I
believe Goddess isolates some, so that they will not be so influenced by
the perspectives of Gurus, but will find Her in their own way.
My definition of genius is broad enough to include myself (giggle) and
many folks I know. Who was it, said that common sense is remarkably
uncommon? That makes it it's own type of genius, in my books.
I think you are special, and I have wanted to learn to drive a giant
tonka toy since puberty. Not for a living. Just to feel the big machine
moving under my control.. like riding a dinosaur. I think in reality tho,
I'd not like the bumpiness and the noise.
> this unit only holds 150 messages . .
I might suggest you unsub the list and resub to the digest, if the unit
can hold 32k messages.. instructions below. If your mailbox overflows, the
list computer will unsub you all by itself, so as not to have your posts
bouncing back to itself.. no worries, just resubscribe yourself again.
>I would propose to you a question? Its been written , That he who
overcomes will be given a white stone, with a name upon it,only he will
know. Does any one out there know that name?
robert
>
Dunno, Dude.. sounds pretty Zen. I suspect the name is different for
every person, and possibly metaphorical of a state of being that cannot be
described in words. Where is it written, thus?
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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:16:45 -0600 (CST)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: plant story
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someone mentioned plants and attention. I am in the habit of watering the
ferns with the water i discard from my altar every morning. When the ferns
were one plant, that plant grew like wildfire. Now its 6 plants! it had 4
babies and we had to split momma. 2 babies went to one, my mother,
another, a friend of ours. 2 babies are still at home, and the mommaplant
now two plants are quickly filling their pots.
they must really like the energy :)
even the stress of mommaplant being split into two isnt stopping her. She
loves her skylight! They are very good for the stale air too.
Maitri,
--janpa
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:23:59 PST
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: janbarenATnospaminfase.es, hlutharATnospambryant.edu
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Subject: Re: Gurus and Professors
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>Jan Barendrecht wrote:
>
>> As any professor in Hindu /
>> Buddhist philosophy will outperform a guru, knowledge isn't a good
test
>> either.
>>
>> Jan
>
>> Harsha smiles and writes: This is a bit out of context but I was
intrigued by
>> the word, "Outperform?" I do not know how you define a guru! Usually
>> professors and others with book knowledge seek out Realized people to
get the
>> proper interpretation. Concepts no matter how elegant, couched in
language no
>> matter how eloquent cannot reach that State and make absolutely no
impression
>> on the Knower of the Self. The Self is the perpetual spring of
peaceful
>> awareness. It does not compete with anything.
>
>
Harsha,
Does this have some similarity to that old saying,
"Those who can, do...those who can't, teach"
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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:38:38 PST
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: hlutharATnospambryant.edu, lobsterATnospamclara.net
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Subject: Re: God As Perfection-God as Perfect Awareness
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>on 19 Mar 98, hlutharATnospambryant.edu wrote...
>
>>Harsha: In one of my first philosophy classes at college, I read the
>explanation of
>>a Greek philosopher (Probably Aristotle) describing the nature of God.
He
>reasoned
>>that God must be Perfect but wondered what a Perfect God does. A
Perfect God of
>>course must Contemplate on Perfection, reasoned Aristotle. But since
there is
>only
>>One Perfection, which is God Itself, God must be Contemplating His Own
Self,
>>concluded the great philosopher. I was completely struck and
spellbound by
>those
>>statements. I was 17 and did not yet know the nature of the
Self-Recognition.
>But
>>even through the thick layers of illusion, it was as if eternity
smiled at me
>and
>>started whispering sweet nothings in my ear.......
>
>The Sufi Ibn Al-Arabi develops this idea saying that only in Mans
contemplation
>of God is the perfection Realised. In other words God created
imperfection in
>order tht His Perfection would be known.
>
>Lobster saying Nothing
>
>
>Glo Lee knowing I ought to know better than to say anything..but:
Difficult as this may be to articulate in mere words...somehow the
Perfection IS realized through A Seeming Imperfection, which is
actually perfect; its just our perception (of IT) may be imperfect. Do
you see any imperfection in Nature?? Is the essential being of a newborn
baby imperfect?? Are the birds just practicing to learn to sing better??
Flowers are striving to improve themselves?? Does God create
imperfectly?? Some design flaw there He just overlooked?? Hmmm??? Help
me out here someone, please..nothing against the Sufi guy, but what is
it exactly wrong with God's "imperfect creation??"
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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:46:25 GMT
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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:55:56 -0000
From: "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo.infase.es>
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Subject: Re: gurus redux
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From: Debora A. Orf <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
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Date: Friday, March 20, 1998 2:35 AM
Subject: Re: gurus redux
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:13:26 -0000
<<This story was unknown to me. Yet, it seems the story only proves my
>>point:
>>Would Angulimala have become Buddha´s disciple without his unconditional
>>surrender to a "false" Guru? As travel in those days-gone-by wasn´t that
>>fast, it is realistic to assume that Buddha was in the neighborhood all
the
>>time; so the story is just another way of showing the superiority of
Buddha,
>>being capable of converting even mass-murderers.>>
>Angulimala really did think he was doing the right thing here. After all,
>Guru said too. I dunno, perhaps if he'd questioned, it would have come out
>that since he refused to sleep with his Guru's wife (She had a disasterous
>desire for the monk who became Angulimala), she set him up.
>One thing that also comes to mind in this story is pride. Knowing what the
>guru has in mind, one may think this is so, but if you are a beginner like
>me, how can you be sure? Ask Questions! Pride may keep me from doing this,
>then that is my downfall, my disaster.
In Bhakti yoga, complete self-surrender is a sine qua non for all aspirants.
The story of Angulimala can easily be converted into a true Bhakta story.
Instead of 1000 people remaining killed, it would turn out the event
happened only in the mind of Angulimala to test both his faith and his
sanity. The power of self-surrender and devotion are very real. Old style
pilgrimages are giving people plenty of physical exercise. Combined with a
sparse
diet, the body gets cleaned of impurities and a devotional state of mind is
established. In a group this process is reinforced. When arriving at the
goal of the pilgrimage, the combined devotion can cause phenomena like
healing, visions of saints etc. A more or less similar story of testing
faith - seduction turns up in the bible - the story of Joseph in Egypt.
Seemingly amazing is that some do have benefited from persons who are
rightly considered to be "false" gurus. Again, the mechanism that makes the
difference is self-surrender.
<< Considering the
>>inherent
exaggeration of the East (1000 killed) as compared to the West, the story
>>reminds me of Jesus, accepting a murderer on the cross as a disciple.
>>Really, getting rid of Angulimala could have been much easier. Offering
>>poisoned food would have done the job most effectively. As the story goes,
>>it seems even Buddha died because of food poisoning. Buddha was even able
to
>>explain the "way of achieving union with Brahman" and the behavior
required
>>for it - you know the sutra of course. >>
>Actually i dont know that sutra. What is its name? And is it in English?
This sutra is contained in the book "Buddhist moral and ethics" by Ven. H.
Sadhatissa. I don´t know if it still is available, when I emigrated to
Tenerife I sold the majority of my books as they were rather rare and could
benefit others.
<<No present day Buddhist can perform
this feat anymore. No doubt you are familiar with Marpa the translator
(Tibetan Buddhism). He was the guru of Milarepa. Yet, Marpa wasn´t a perfect
guru: as a result of an error he lost a son. So, do you really suggest that
Milarepa should have left his Guru because of this flaw?>>
Milarepa knew Marpa from a past life, so his confidence was already there.
This reminds me of something else. A disciple of Kalu Rinpoche once was
discussing with me the state his guru attained. The disciple was a skilled
MD, with a sound knowledge of the final stage of enlightenment and the
corresponding physical properties. For him, it was beyond all doubt that his
guru had attained the highest enlightenment and could leave the body at
will.
For the sake of disciples, the body was maintained for many years. The
highest possible enlightenment means the end of incarnation - there is no
more wish to
reincarnate. By becoming an immortal, you contribute the highest possible
boon to sentient creatures - no more can be done. So I was really very
surprised to read that Kalu Rinpoche once again reincarnated. If it had been
stated:" an emanation of... has appeared..." it would have made all the
difference for me. It means, I am rather cautious, if not skeptical, when
references to previous lives are given. Modern Self-realized ones like
Ramana Maharishi refused to discuss the topic of past lives altogether,
stating it to be of no help in the present situation.
<< Of course
>>evaluating is important, so let´s go. Among others, the guru should be
>>"overflowing" with love/compassion - this can be perceived immediately. If
>>the guru is "overflowing", his behavior must be accordingly: among many
>>others, not causing any harm (or worse...) to sentient creatures and this
>>means he has to be a fruitarian - it is observed easily. Violating ahimsa
>>because the guru is "beyond the law of karma" IMO only shows the great
guru
>>isn´t much concerned with being an example for disciples. The funniest
thing
>>I ever came across was a Tibetan lama, consuming a big steak.>>
>Well, about the only thing that one could grow in Tibet besides barely was
>a Yak. Its not surprising that they had to go to an animal-based diet.
>HHDL has encouraged hsi followers to take up vegetarian diets where such a
>thing is available.
The lamas I´m referring to were met in the West, at the end of the eighties.
At that time, the bad effects of meat-eating were well known and all Western
visitors / practitioners were veg*ans. Even if one uses animal sources for
food, it can be done in a far healthier way (for man and animal) like the
Masai are doing for ages.
<< When a
>>visitor
>>flattened a pesky fly, the lama immediately started prayer for the poor,
>>deceased fly...(ROTFL).This great lama was utterly unmoved by his
>>contribution to animal suffering in slaughter-houses. A still greater lama
>>once stated: suicide is always very negative - no discussion possible.
There
>>is a story about a former local ruler here. In a decisive battle against
the
>>Spanish colonialists, he was loosing and decided he had to take his life
>>because he felt responsible for the defeat and its
>>consequences. In doing so (jumping from a cliff) he saved the lives of
>>family and commanders: >>
>of course! He was acting by the Bodhisattvic ideal. Bodhisattva vows of
>saving all beings by whatevermeans means that sometimes you have to take
>on negative karma. Of Killing, or whatever. But only a highly realized
>bodhisattva knows the difference, is capable of knowing the difference.
Actually, the Spanish never found out the religion of the natives. But it
wasn´t Buddhism. The natives have left a few pyramids, some deceased were
mummified and the natives could adopt a statue of the Madonna immediately
into their religion. It is assumed the natives migrated from North-Africa.
<<
The Buddhist literature had no explanation for it
>>
>that which is avaliable to the public. esoteric teachigns are another
>matter. They are kept secret to protect them and their practioners.
The Sri Lankan monk I´m referring to entered life as a monk at age four;
when I met him, he had been engaging in meditation for some fifty years -
hardly a beginner. Trying to "see" my mind showed him that despite my
practice with K. for only four years I wasn't a beginner either. He
was thrown against the wall and yet I didn't notice even the slightest
movement
in K.
<<, hence the
vivid discussion. Clearly, this monk was transgressing another law of
ethics: violating privacy. [BTW, does someone know how to master this
invisible force? It seems to be an effective means of transport and my old
car needs to be replaced (LOL)]. So one should really be careful with
gurus ->>
>In the book "Words of My Perfect Teacher", the Vajrayana view on this is
>explained. I'd mangle it to be sure trying to synopsize, so i'll point you
>to the book.
In this respect, the various systems can´t be contradictory. Patanjali
strongly advises not to meddle with siddhis; he claims it to be detrimental
for spiritual growth. What really surprised me was that the monk with his 50
years of experience in meditation didn´t seem to know this.
<<IMO and observation all have their limitations and flaws. However,
unless
one can start with an experience enabling one to make the " ultimate quest"
the top-priority in life, a guru is needed and it is up to the disciple, to
decide which flaws are acceptable and which are objectionable. Of course,
this decision can be flawed too, as "acceptable" and objectionable" are
related to personal taste, ethics and culture. As any professor in Hindu /
Buddhist philosophy will outperform a guru, knowledge isn't a good test
either.>>
>may all beings be free from suffering,
>may they be joined to true happiness
>may they be free from the causes of suffering, joined to the causes for
>happiness.
>maybe they be filled with equanimity, not holding one close and another
>afar.
>maitri,
>--janpa tsomo (jham'pa mtsho'-mo)
By becoming an immortal, you will contribute the highest possible boon to
sentient creatures - no more remains to be done.
Jan
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:58:28 -0000
From: "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo.infase.es>
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Date: Friday, March 20, 1998 4:26 AM
Subject: Re: gurus redux
>[...]
>Actually, I don't believe there is a sutra that describes Buddha's death by
>poisoning. I remember reading an article a long time ago discussing the
myth of
>Buddha's death. Most often it was described that he was given poisoned pork
by
>a Hindu. I don't remember the exact details. However, the conclusion was
drawn
>that the myth started about 300 years after Buddhas death by Brahman
priests in
>India, as an attempt to discourage the rising tide of Buddhist converts. If
you
>have more information on the story I would be glad to hear it.
>
> Dan M.
>
Neither do I know the exact source of the death-story, but it is very
different from yours. The food contained poisonous mushrooms and because of
his omniscience, Buddha knew this. Refusal to take the food would have been
an insult and would not have prevented the host and the disciples from
taking the food and dying from eating it. Because Buddha had achieved
Nirvana (without substratum remaining) he was able at any time to leave his
body at will, as it had served its purpose: being a vessel of salvation for
himself and all sentient beings. So, Buddha decided that by taking the food
and leaving the body, he would honor his host and save his host and the
disciples from death by food-poisoning. He ate from the food, laid down on a
sofa and left the body.
I think this story only proves the greatness of a Buddha.
Jan
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:20:18 PST
From: "Cara McCormack" <caradeepaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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Hey Guys,
I have been working my butt off to get my friends web page finished.
Its almost there....take a look
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Aegean/1654/norm_astr.html
Its my first time doing a web page....if you like it let me know...and
hey if u want a web page let me know...and if you want an astrological
reading let him know.....
Thanks for all of your advice along this kundalini path....
Namaste
Cara :)
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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:34:48
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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Subject: Re: bubble spells
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At 22:54 16/01/98 -0500, Sharon Webb wrote:
>Angelique wrote:
>>>I was directed to adjust the protective bubble spell on the
>>>computer, that keeps it from being crashed by my K.flares, to filter out
>>>the harmful vibrations.
>
>I am MOST interested in your spell. Will you share? :-)
>
>Sharon
>shawebbATnospamyhc.edu
Certainly.
Bubble spell for computer protection.
The short form of this spell: ask Goddess to protect your computer.. and
do not ever have another thought of worry for it. Can you do that? I can't
usually. Not for protection spells, coz there is fear prompting the need.
Fear ungrounds.
If I am yelling for help, I am expressing a belief that I am helpless in
trouble and in need, and so I will create, with the limitless power Goddess
has given me to manifest thought. If I trust that Goddess in unconditional
love will give me everything I think of, and begin to create/choose thought
images of safety and light, so I recieve.
So, this is a clear expressed request of intent to safety and light.
The power of rituals, is they engage more parts of your being towards the
single goal.. thought, word, deed. More energy of thought is focused in a
single direction, the intentions go deeper into manifesation.
Get grounded.
http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/ground.htm
Ask for blessings on your work, from Diety, higher self, planet Mother
Gaia... for the good of all and harm to none, et all.. your preferences..
Hold your hands in front of you, like you are holding a punchbowl, and
make a bubble of K. energy between them. Endow it with protective
properties with your intentions.
Useful properties are: for it not to crash or blow up from your K.fire,
even when you are angry.. and for it to be basically impervious to your
changing moods, grounded into a part of you that is stable as higher self.
For it to also filter out harmful vibrations from the monitor, and throw in
some surge protection while you are at it. Make it virus free.. the
possibilities are limited only by your faith and imagination. You can
always add to it later. Being a bubble, it can shine whatever colors you
choose.. purple flame for purity, blue for spiritual communication.. pink
and green for healing love.. think of oil slick rainbows colors on a
puddle, and give it light..
When it looks good to your inner eye, give it a grounding thread.. one
up to infinity, your higher self.. one down to the earth, just as you did
for yourself, energy flowing both ways.. now your creation has it's own
energy source and won't require recharges or batteries... and will be "self
cleaning" .. tho a thought of gratitude for it occasionally is a good idea.
Finally, I like to ask my Angels to administer the spell, and give them
permission to adjust it in any ways they think it and I need, in the
highest good, as it runs. They know more than me.. I surrender it entirely
to their wise guidance. Having it crash when the posts are unkind, was
their idea.. as a way to manifest my intent.
Leave some room in the spells for Goddess to improve them.. don't worry
if you have left out anything, coz you have asked for the angelic refit
package. ("Or something even better, an it be in the highest good of all.")
Trust them to catch anything you've missed, or anything that you've not
planned for, and to correct any suggestions you have made in your intent
that might have negative effects in the future.
In other words.. ask them to fill in the blanks, and leave some blanks
for them to fill in.. trust makes the spell. Remember tho that for Angelic
assistance, you have to ask, or they cannot interfere.
When the bubble seems done, if you need more than one of them, twist it
like a balloon animal... or pop like bubbles dividing, and there will be
two identical like ameobas. or as many as you need. Make them bigger with
more energy if need be, and place them aound each part of your computer.
Add threads going along the connecting cords, sheathing them.. As the side
of the bubble passes thru the computer, it will push out/transform any bad
vibes that need clearing.
You might also want to manifest some tiny bubble "gateways" where the
phone cords and electric run into the house, as well.. adjust their
intention to match thier purposes.
Consider also: Goddess is all things, and so She is your computer too,
and so it is alive. Have a nice chat with your computer about how much you
love it and and all that it does for you, etc.. make friends.
As a final note, if you are having a lot of trouble with lighbulbs and
electronics going foom, then the best thing is to get very grounded and
change yourself.
Have a nice chat with your K. about how you do not wish to cause harm to
electronic beings with your energy, and ask that it be adjusted so as not
to damage such things when you are around them, no matter how extreme your
emotional state may be.
It is possible to negotiate with your K., about how and when it
manifests, to a certain degree. It works best, if you give it a time and
place to release those energies when it is safe to do so.. take a walk in
the park away from electricity, and invite those energies to come out and
play. Ask them to be dampened when you walk into an office or airport.
Hope that's useful.. Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:02:08 -0800
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
To: Joseph Miller <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, stuartfATnospamdimensional.com
Subject: Re: Prannothana?
Message-ID: <35131F99.8C4DF5F7ATnospamgeocities.com>
Prannothana = Prana + Uthhaana
= Vital Force + Rising
= Raising the vital force.
Anandajyoti
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
Joseph Miller wrote:
> Stuart,
>
> In reply to your post:
> >Is anyone familiar or can define this term (Prannothana?)?
> If you do get a real definition I'd like to know both the meaning and
> the source (in the ancient texts).
>
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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:53:11 EST
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com, joemillerATnospamhotmail.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, stuartfATnospamdimensional.com
Subject: Re: Prannothana?
Message-ID: <5981b888.35132b99ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-03-20 21:03:38 EST, anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com writes:
<< Prannothana = Prana + Uthhaana
= Vital Force + Rising
= Raising the vital force. >>
Harsha: This makes sense. Kurt suggested the same thing. However, I do not
recall coming across this term before in any book. A more familiar term to me
in the context of Pranayama is "Udghata" which means awakening of the
Kundalini Shakti.
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