1998/03/16 09:21
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #200
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 200
Today's Topics:
RE: African magic, juju, witch docto [ Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserv ]
RE: African magic, juju, witch docto [ Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserv ]
Re: Words from a new friend!! [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
Quietness [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ]
Self love [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ]
Re: Some Needed Levity [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
interfaith gathering [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
World Mala Project (fwd) [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
shit dream [ Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net. ]
Re: African magic, juju, witch docto [ freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net> ]
Re: shit dream [ "Dave" <linnymATnospamnidlink.com> ]
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 06:17:14 -0500
From: Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
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Subject: RE: African magic, juju, witch doctors etc
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Hi Anurag,
Well one reason I need such info is simple curiosity as to whether there is
any
similarity between the Indian concept of kundalini, and ideas of spiritual
energy in
other cultures. Kurt Keutzer, Druout and other list members have confirmed that
there are similarities. If kundalini is a basic energy accessible by every
human being,
then Kundalini Yoga is one example of an all-embracing theory and set of
practises.
However, it exists in a cultural and religious context - which is fine - but if
the energy
is universal, then it's worth looking at other cultures' ideas, so we can
broaden our
understanding and maybe find some useful exercises. Do you see what I'm getting
at?
Best wishes,
Tom
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:45:53 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
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Hi,
Can I know why you need such info? I didn't understand
" correspondences between Indo-European and African spirituality
and the esoteric or occult"
Love,
anurag
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On Fri, 13 Mar 1998 Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserve.com wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> It's been my observation that apart from an interest in kundalini, list
> members have broad interests in occultism, spiritual theories and so on. As a
> child I lived in Africa, and met a genuine witch doctor (i.e. one there not
jus
t
> because of tourists). What would interest me is any info on correspondences
> between Indo-European and African spirituality and the esoteric or occult.
Can
> anyone shed light on the subject?
>
> Tom
>
>
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 06:17:15 -0500
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Subject: RE: African magic, juju, witch doctors etc
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Hi Anurag,
Well one reason I need such info is simple curiosity as to whether there is
any
similarity between the Indian concept of kundalini, and ideas of spiritual
energy in
other cultures. Kurt Keutzer, Druout and other list members have confirmed that
there are similarities. If kundalini is a basic energy accessible by every
human being,
then Kundalini Yoga is one example of an all-embracing theory and set of
practises.
However, it exists in a cultural and religious context - which is fine - but if
the energy
is universal, then it's worth looking at other cultures' ideas, so we can
broaden our
understanding and maybe find some useful exercises. Do you see what I'm getting
at?
Best wishes,
Tom
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:45:53 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
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Hi,
Can I know why you need such info? I didn't understand
" correspondences between Indo-European and African spirituality
and the esoteric or occult"
Love,
anurag
==============
= Name : Anurag Goel =
= Course : M.Sc. Engg. ,Electrical Engg =
= Room No : PD-16 =
= e-mail : anuragATnospamee.iisc.ernet.in =
==============
= HOME PAGE LOCATION =
= http://144.16.69.6/people/students/anurag =
= =
= kabira yeh ghar prem ka khala ka ghar nahi =
= shish utare bhoomi dhare vah pathe ghar mahi =
= =
==============
On Fri, 13 Mar 1998 Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserve.com wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> It's been my observation that apart from an interest in kundalini, list
> members have broad interests in occultism, spiritual theories and so on. As a
> child I lived in Africa, and met a genuine witch doctor (i.e. one there not
jus
t
> because of tourists). What would interest me is any info on correspondences
> between Indo-European and African spirituality and the esoteric or occult.
Can
> anyone shed light on the subject?
>
> Tom
>
>
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 03:26:05 -0800
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
To: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
CC: Fernando Velez-Pardo <fvpATnospambellsouth.net>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Words from a new friend!!
Message-ID: <350D0C45.6E443C1DATnospamgeocities.com>
Anurag Goel wrote:
>
>
> Anurag > Are you saying that life force has transformed in to protein?
> Can you make the things more clear?
Anandajyoti> We all talk of gravitation, which we measure through its effects only, same with
electromagnetic energy, which we also measure by the effects produced. And we have assigned the
name of the type of the energy as a definition, of the effects they produce. So also the life
force manifests in various forms and is also sometimes called Prana. So the life force, in the
semen or the ovum , which are physically proteins, is something other the material od semen or
the ovum.
>
>
> Anurag > I suppose you are referring to pranayama.
> Anandajyoti> Yes, Pranayama and through it nerve and muscle controls are involved..
>
>
> Anurag > Guru indeed is placed higher than GOD. Even if GOD takes birth
> in form of RAMA or KRISHNA still he requires a GURU to become
> RAMA or KRISHNA.
>
> SANT KABIR says in one of its DOHA
>
> " one went in to confusion whose feet one should touch GURU"S
> or GOD"S when one saw both of them standing together. KABIR
> then says that he/she was GURU only who showed me GOD that's
> why I surrender myself to the feet of GURU. "
>
> One can see all GOD"S in the feet of GURU.
>
> Moreover when the GURU is GOD relised then what is the
> difference between GURU and GOD. They both are indivisible
> from each other. Inspite of all this GURU is one who is
> present with you physically all the time on this earth.
>
> Anandajyoti.
Please Read Kabir's Doha again and again and you would understand what I meant in my earlier
post, you are referring to.
With best wishes,
Anandajyoti
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 11:24:53 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Quietness
Message-Id: <970316112453.n0001216.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>
Quietness
Inside this new love, die.
Your way begins on the other side.
Become the sky.
Take an axe to the prison wall.
Escape.
Walk out like someone suddenly born into color.
Do it now.
You're covered with thick cloud.
Slide out the side. Die,
and be quiet. Quietness is the surest sign
that you've died.
Your old life was a frantic running
from silence.
The speechless full moon
comes out now.
..Rumi
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 11:23:35 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Self love
Message-Id: <970316112335.n0001215.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>
-----Original Message forwarded from -----
Marion Phillips <phillipsATnospamunbc.ca>
To: thegardenATnospamworld.std.com <thegardenATnospamworld.std.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 11, 1998 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: Self love
>Dear Friends,
>
>I find mornings my best time to be able to write, and at times I
>find it amazing what comes off the end of my pen.
>This mornings writings were done with someone I know, in mind, who
>is having problems with issues of control and has been unable to
>find the Love of herself for herself.....yet. I share my thoughts
>with you here.
>
>Becoming responsible for oneself can be a very scary process.
>To know Love one must first be Love. That is to Love oneself first
>then can Love for another flow.
>This Love for another is without expectation, for you know that you
>already have Love. The love of self is all encompassing. It doesn't
>put us in a position of needing to find love outside ourselves.
>As we grow in Love of self, we find that the Love of others finds
>us.
>So long as we can remember to accept another's Love without
>expectation, without loosing our own Love, we come to realize love
>is everywhere, everything.
>
>The fear of loosing ourselves, who we know ourselves as, up until
>now, keeps us stuck in the only way we know ourselves. This opinion
>has been reached through the expectations of other people, parents,
>friends, and society. Thus molding us into who we think everyone
>else wants us to be.
>
>Love is getting in touch with our own inner self, our own heart.
>Thus we need to loose ourselves (old self) to find ourselves. Not
>the new self, but the re-newed self for we have always been Love.
>
>We need to be true to ourselves and set aside who others tell us we
>are. This goes for everyone; we need to check our own heart. Little
>do we realize that we have actually been lost all this time. Lost to
>our own Love. Lost to our heart-self.
>Lost to who we really are.
>
>It is to be ever aware, to check within our own self as we go along
>that we learn to know ourselves. Unfortunately this is not an
>instant thing.
>
>To be aware and to notice with awareness is truly a Joyous feeling.
>To discover - yes, the discovery brings Joy. It's like "Wow", I
>recognize this, I never noticed before. To recognize/be aware,
>allows us freedom - allows us choices. We have the freedom to
>choose.
>
>In the recognition of this freedom to choose, allows us to be
>responsible for ourselves. The path to independence.
>
>In making choices with awareness we become free. We grow in
>confidence. The confidence to know who we are.
>
>Once we are aware of even a glimmer of who we are, we are off and
>running into the Light. The glimmer is like a spark and the spark
>becomes the flame. It just grows and grows. It can not be snuffed
>out; it is eternal, ever becoming brighter. Love for ourselves glows
>from this flame. So it is to ever reach for the flame, the light.
>When we find ourselves in the darkness, reach for the flame,
>remember the light in our hearts, it has not gone out, only shadowed
>by our fear.
>
>In Love, Light and Joy
>Marion
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:06:54 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Some Needed Levity
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Hi,
Divert your thinking to nice words and things and then you will be
able to describe things in a nicer way.
Regards,
anurag
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= shish utare bhoomi dhare vah pathe ghar mahi =
= =
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On Fri, 13 Mar 1998 amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us wrote:
> Close-to-complete Ideology and Religion Shit List:
>
> * Taoism: Shit happens.
> * Confucianism: Confucius say, "Shit happens."
> * Buddhism: If shit happens, it isn't really shit.
> * Zen Buddhism: Shit is, and is not.
> * Zen Buddhism #2: What is the sound of shit happening?
> * Hinduism: This shit has happened before.
> * Islam: If shit happens, it is the will of Allah.
> * Islam #2: If shit happens, kill the person responsible.
> * Islam #3: If shit happens, blame Israel.
> * Catholicism: If shit happens, you deserve it.
> * Protestantism: Let shit happen to someone else.
> * Presbyterian: This shit was bound to happen.
> * Episcopalian: It's not so bad if shit happens, as long as you serve the
> right wine with it.
> * Methodist: It's not so bad if shit happens, as long as you serve grape
> juice with it.
> * Congregationalist: Shit that happens to one person is just as good as
> shit that happens to another.
> * Unitarian: Shit that happens to one person is just as bad as shit that
> happens to another.
> * Lutheran: If shit happens, don't talk about it.
> * Fundamentalism: If shit happens, you will go to hell, unless you are
> born again. (Amen!)
> * Fundamentalism #2: If shit happens to a televangelist, it's okay.
> * Fundamentalism #3: Shit must be born again.
> * Judaism: Why does this shit always happen to us?
> * Calvinism: Shit happens because you don't work.
> * Seventh Day Adventism: No shit shall happen on Saturday.
> * Creationism: God made all shit.
> * Secular Humanism: Shit evolves.
> * Christian Science: When shit happens, don't call a doctor - pray!
> * Christian Science #2: Shit happening is all in your mind.
> * Unitarianism: Come let us reason together about this shit.
> * Quakers: Let us not fight over this shit.
> * Utopianism: This shit does not stink.
> * Darwinism: This shit was once food.
> * Capitalism: That's MY shit.
> * Communism: It's everybody's shit.
> * Feminism: Men are shit.
> * Chauvinism: We may be shit, but you can't live without us...
> * Commercialism: Let's package this shit.
> * Impressionism: From a distance, shit looks like a garden.
> * Idolism: Let's bronze this shit.
> * Existentialism: Shit doesn't happen; shit IS.
> * Existentialism #2: What is shit, anyway?
> * Stoicism: This shit is good for me.
> * Hedonism: There is nothing like a good shit happening!
> * Mormonism: God sent us this shit.
> * Mormonism #2: This shit is going to happen again.
> * Wiccan: An it harm none, let shit happen.
> * Scientology: If shit happens, see "Dianetics", p.157.
> * Jehovah's Witnesses: >Knock< >Knock< Shit happens.
> * Jehovah's Witnesses #2: May we have a moment of your time to show you
> some of our shit?
> * Jehovah's Witnesses #3: Shit has been prophesied and is imminent; only
> the righteous shall survive its happening.
> * Moonies: Only really happy shit happens.
> * Hare Krishna: Shit happens, rama rama.
> * Rastafarianism: Let's smoke this shit!
> * Zoroastrianism: Shit happens half on the time.
> * Church of SubGenius: BoB shits.
> * Practical: Deal with shit one day at a time.
> * Agnostic: Shit might have happened; then again, maybe not.
> * Agnostic #2: Did someone shit?
> * Agnostic #3: What is this shit?
> * Satanism: SNEPPAH TIHS.
> * Atheism: What shit?
> * Atheism #2: I can't believe this shit!
> * Nihilism: No shit.
>
> Enjoy!
> amckeon
>
>
>
>
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:35:05 -0600 (CST)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: interfaith gathering
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Well i've never met a Swami before, but last nite i did :). St. louis has
an interfaith council and we meet biannually.
Our topic was 'what does your religion or philosphy have to say about life
after death? do humans have more than one life?'
The 4 speakers were from Vedanta, Confucionism, Judaism & Ba'hai.
Swami Chatanada (i think that was his name, i only heard it a few times)
was the most laughing :). He reminded me of my own teacher who also struck
me first by his constant smiles and sponatanous laughter at appropriate
moments. (amoung other things....i could go on quite a bit and bore you
about how i met my guru, but i will spare u that tirade ;) )
Part of the interfaith meeting is we break into small groups and can query
the speakers more. there was this one gentleman who kept bringing up
subjects like the caste system and the tradtional view of women in Vedanta
as seen from western eyes. The thing that caught my attention tho, was
when this gentleman said 'So is the view with karma that one does not have
to have compassion for those in trouble? its after all, what they had
coming?'
i was thinking 'oh no! all beings are your parents ...'etcetc. Swami just
started saying 'nonono, please dont think like that, ...'
i could feel my heart center sorta start burning and 'reaching' in a way i
hadnt known before really. Maybe because of Swami's energy (Strong!).
It was a rather interesting evening.
Welp, have a good monday!
--janpa
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:39:41 -0600 (CST)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: World Mala Project (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980316083920.17851E-100000ATnospamwinc0>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:56:57 EST
From: Kwanok <KwanokATnospamaol.com>
Cc: KtherineKATnospamaol.com
Subject: World Mala Project
Hello!
A friend of mine is in New York working on the World Mala Project. We are
all invited to help the project in any way that we are able.
Yours in the Dharma,
julia
******************
World Mala Project
c/o The BodhiSativa Foundation
72-24 243rd Street
Douglaston, NY 11362
Dear Dharma Friend,
The BodhiSativa Foundation is initiating a project to create the world´s
longest functional mala that will demonstrate a unified movement for global
peace and compassion. This colossal mala, dedicated to non-violence and
perseverance, will serve as a symbol of the commitment made by Buddhists,
world-wide, to end the suffering of all sentient beings.
We can create a World Mala only with your help. Our goal is to collect 500,000
beads in 1998. This is a cooperative effort in which your direct contribution
will be used to create the mala. Each bead contributed will be hand-threaded
on retted hemp twine.
Here's how you can join our efforts:
* begin a bead collection in your community or sangha
* tell others of our efforts by
- forwarding this e-mail to like-minded friends and organizations
- posting a printed copy of this letter in highly visible locations
- translating this invitation into international languages to reach
engaged Buddhists world-wide
- linking the official World Mala Project website to your homepage
Beads: We ask for bead or mala donations which have been previously used in
practice (any mantra, prayer or denomination) to relieve suffering in the
world. They may be sent strung or loose, in any quantity, condition, size,
color or form.
Shipping: Please use recycled sturdy envelopes and recyclable shipping
materials. Large quantity bead donations may be wrapped in newsprint, charity-
worthy tee-shirts, towels, etc. Group packages may reduce sending costs;
ground tracking is encouraged.
Please include the following information for archival purposes:
* Full name - Names of contributors
* Bead count, tassel or thread color (example: 108 beads, red elastic)
* Your (mailing, e-mail and/or homepage) address
* Your organization or denomination
Friends and new friends, please feel free to contact us for a mailing address
or to share information regarding your sangha or organization.
All are welcome to bookmark our website and create links to the WM Project.
<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/KtherineK/WMProject.html">The World Mala
Project</A> is at (http://members.aol.com/KtherineK/WMProject.html) and a
<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/KtherineK/update980303.html">current bead
count is available</A>!
Again, thank you for your practice and your commitment to help this world!
Sincerely,
The World Mala Project
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 20:45:57 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: shit dream
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Between January and August of 97, I dreamt atleast between 20 to
30 times the following dream. I negelected this dream as i normally
neglect all my dreams. But after I got to talk to Danijel Turina on this
list, I
have suddenly felt the extreme importance of t his dream. Thanks again to
Danijel.
The dream was...... that i would be sitting on shit pot at
different public places. I would be sitting in conference hall
or in office, in train, in lecture room,
or in my house with my family members
or with friends,
or in any position
and going through this process of shitting, and behaving normally.
I better give importance to my second dream which has repeated
atleast 15 to 20 times between august to december 97. This dream is that i
forget and lose my shoes where ever I go. Not only this but in last six
months two pairs of my shoes have been actu ally misplaced and lost in
public places.
Is this dream suggesting that I walk barefoot in public places.
Normally I walk barefoot in my house since many years. Indian roads are
not safe. I can cut my feet or get hurt. And my society and family will
get worried if i walk barefoot and I will get strange stares from public.
Any suggestions?
shahanshah
P.S:- Before august 97, i repeatedly dreamt of missing train connections
at the last moment.
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:12:16 -0800
From: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
To: Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: African magic, juju, witch doctors etc
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> Hi Anurag,
> <snip>
list members have confirmed that
> there are similarities. If kundalini is a basic energy accessible by every
> human being,
> then Kundalini Yoga is one example of an all-embracing theory and set of
> practises.
> However, it exists in a cultural and religious context - which is fine - but
> if
> the energy
> is universal, then it's worth looking at other cultures' ideas, so we can
> broaden our
> understanding and maybe find some useful exercises. Do you see what I'm
> getting
> at?
>
> Best wishes,
> Tom
Good Day to you both,
I understand what Tom is saying, but it took a Roman Catholic nun to
explain it to me...
(I am not Catholic, I had to take classes in order for my children to be
baptized
(their father wanted them to be Catholic :), isn't that clever!) Anyway,
I asked Sr. Terese her opionion, "Why are there so many religions if
there is only One God?"
she answered, "Because there aren't any goats to sacrifice at the North
Pole"
Sr. Terese also taught 7th grade religion, which explains
the simplicity and humor of her "style" of teaching.
Why does this all have to be so complicated anyway?
If we are creating this reality:
I say we take a vote and just admit we are lazy and slow,
and make it simpler for ourselfs- when next we create?
Cut down on the confusion - give everyone goats!!!!!
heheheh
freda
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:56:59 -0800
From: "Dave" <linnymATnospamnidlink.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>, <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
Subject: Re: shit dream
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Perhaps you are stuck in your lower Chakras and it is time to move upward.
Also, maybe your use of the word "shit pot" rather than" toilet seat" is a
clear indication that some "cleansing" is required at some level.
2nd dream, forgetting your shoes, I don't have any suggestions here, for I
think it has to do with your customs, which I am not aware of. Perhaps
Danijel or someone else on the list could give their interpretation.
Dave
>Peswani wrote
> Between January and August of 97, I dreamt atleast between 20 to
>30 times the following dream. I negelected this dream as i normally
>neglect all my dreams. But after I got to talk to Danijel Turina on this
>list, I
>have suddenly felt the extreme importance of t his dream. Thanks again to
>Danijel.
> The dream was...... that i would be sitting on shit pot at
>different public places. I would be sitting in conference hall
> or in office, in train, in lecture room,
> or in my house with my family members
> or with friends,
> or in any position
> and going through this process of shitting, and behaving normally.
>
> I better give importance to my second dream which has repeated
>atleast 15 to 20 times between august to december 97. This dream is that i
>forget and lose my shoes where ever I go. Not only this but in last six
>months two pairs of my shoes have been actu ally misplaced and lost in
>public places.
> Is this dream suggesting that I walk barefoot in public places.
>Normally I walk barefoot in my house since many years. Indian roads are
>not safe. I can cut my feet or get hurt. And my society and family will
>get worried if i walk barefoot and I will get strange stares from public.
>
> Any suggestions?
>shahanshah
>
>P.S:- Before august 97, i repeatedly dreamt of missing train connections
>at the last moment.
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