1998/03/14 02:46
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #192
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 192
Today's Topics:
Questions about Kundalini [ Dan Margolis <margolisATnospamtransbay.net ]
RE: African magic, juju, witch docto [ Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley ]
Discovering the reptile within [ Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley ]
Re: growth [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
re: GG or me [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
ki/prana [ "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhot ]
Kommunion [ "Ed Arrons" <eeaATnospamaug.com> ]
Re: Words from a new friend!! [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: GG or me [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
Re: African magic, juju, witch docto [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:20:01 -0800
From: Dan Margolis <margolisATnospamtransbay.net>
To: Kundalini Mailing List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Questions about Kundalini
Message-ID: <3509BF21.EA3F9403ATnospamtransbay.net>
Recently I've had a series of experiences which I've now
identified as a kundalini awakening.
I've been practicing Zen-Buddhism for about 2 years, and
have a steady meditation practice. I practice a local Zendo
and generally meditate about 5 times a week. For the last
month I've noticed a change in my meditation. I've felt
energy/tension building through my spine. Since I have bad
knees I pay particular attention to my posture while
meditating. About two weeks ago when I was meditating at
home I felt the tension/energy in my lower spine and watched
it slowly building up my back. I was mostly focusing on my
breath but I noticed the pressure move slowly upwards. It
went through my neck and reached my head. Just before it
reached the top of my head I felt a tremendous sense of
electricity and anticipation. My mind became very quiet and
I was with my breath. Then the energy burst through the top
of my head and I went into a series of seizures and
convulsions. I was conscious the entire time this was
happening and observed this occuring. I only stopped when I
fell off my meditation cushion. I got up had a drink of
water and noticed I was incredibly twitch. I would
spontaneously start shaking in different parts of my body.
I also could summon a seizure at will. I had a feeling of
calm and clearness, but very little physical control of my
head, neck and back. I noted the experience, but weird
things happen while your meditating so I didn't think much
of it.
Since the experience I've started a daily stretching/yoga
practice that I had been meaning to do but never got around
to. The next time I meditated it didn't happen, but the
last two times I meditated at home I've had the same
experience and seizures towards the end of the meditation
session. I've stopped meditating at the Zendo because
seizures are not a part of Zen meditation. I've also cut
down my meditation a lot because I was a little worried
about this.
Right now I have mixed feelings about this experience.
Physically my body has started transforming, I'm stretching
more and becoming more flexible. After each of the bursting
experiences I would start spontaneously doing yoga stretches
and positions. My body moved in a very fluid relaxed
manner. Mentally I was clear but a little disassociated and
detached. When I write about this experience I have the
same sense of detachment which may explain the tone of the
posting. I'm a little troubled by the seizures and shaking,
but physically I feel great. I also am aware that this sort
of experience can be dangerous.
My questions:
Are there health effects that I should be aware of?
Should I continue meditating at a Zen center where the
teachings are not concerned with this type
of energy movement?
Should I try to find a yoga teacher that focuses on this
sort of energy, eventhough I'm a
Buddhist?
I realize that some of these questions have probably already
been answered, I haven't had a chance to look at the mailing
list archives. If there are discussions posted could you
refer me to the documents that describe them.
Thanks,
Dan M.
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:07:45 -0800
From: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
To: "'Druout'" <DruoutATnospamaol.com>,
"Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserve.com"
<Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserve.com>,
"kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: African magic, juju, witch doctors etc /A Bit Long
Message-ID: <01BD4EA2.8B61E8C0.keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
-----Original Message-----
On this side of the painting it's a kneeling figure and its arms are in
this
backward position which go right out of the back like that and that puzzled
us
for a long time. Because you get this very awkward arm position painted
all
over S. Africa. And I was in the Kalahari talking to some San (Bushmen)
medicine men and one of them said without my asking him. There is
something
else I can tell you, and he stood up and bent forward and put his arms into
that posture and straight away I knew he was going to explain what had
puzzled
us for decades. And he gave us a background for that picture. (So what
was
it? AA asked)
KK says:
There's a book called *Boiling Energy* by (Steven Katz?). The premise of
the book is the Kalahari Kung! tribesman have a culture built around
kundalini. It is a very interesting book. One of the most interesting parts
of it is the portion where the anthropologist (Katz?) asks the healers, who
are the kundalini adepts, to draw self-portraits of themselves. One healer
drew a cyclone like energy vortex with no particular correlation with his
physical body. After that I thought a lot about how our society (I just got
an email that my new picture is ready to be posted on the local bulletin
board) reinforces a ``material 3-d body'' view of ourselves whereas a
culture could reinforce a ``spiritual energy vortex'' view of ourself.
Imagine getting an email - ``your 4d hologram energy-dynamic chart is ready
to be posted now on the local bulletin board, could you stop by and approve
it?''. That would be more liberating.
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:51:44 -0800
From: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Discovering the reptile within
Message-ID: <01BD4EA8.B01CED80.keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
The post regarding African shamanism and kundalini sparked me to pose a
comment I've been musing about.
I'm increasing tending to believe that kundalini is not a phenomenon of our
higher cortical brain faculties but rather the more primitive ``reptilian''
portions of our brain. So I'm inclined to forget about relationships
between kundalini and genius. I guess if I had any remaining prejudices
that kundalini was linked to genius they went out with the discussions that
Gene Kieffer evoked late last year. But it does seem that kundalini can
have significant effects on our motor and emotional systems. Comments?
Kurt
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:41:10 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
cc: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: growth
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Hi Peswani,
One should ask the question which you have asked and work
towards seeking it's answer.
But I found that unless this question urges from within one
will not understand the question to it's full seriousness and
won't be able to think deeply over the question.
love,
anurag
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On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Peswani wrote:
>
>
> Angelique's mysticism.
> Gloria's heart centered spiritualism,
> Lobester's sufism,
> Harsha's Kaviliya samadhi or enlightment,
> David Bozzo's acceptance,
> Janpa's Buddhism,
> Shahanshah's egoism,
> etc, etc.
>
> Are all games towards..... GROWTH...GROWTH
> GROWTH towards what? and for what?
>
> For this one has to go towards answers as to "WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS
> CREATION ?" WHAT IS THE ROLE ASSIGNED TO EACH OF US?
>
>
> Understanding answers to above questions is what I call "SELF REALISATION".
>
> And this "SELF REALISATION" is indivitual process. My answers can not be
> your answers. And if you are not yet grown to get these answers from
> yourself, then surrender to God, or Goddess or realised Guru, or go on
> putting EFFORT.
>
> Shahanshah
>
>
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:29:16 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Jan Barendrecht <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: re: GG or me
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980313162557.1322B-100000ATnospamBhaskara>
Hi Jan,
What you have said is an awakening thought because having little
bit of experiences of K doesn't mean your full kundalini is
awakened.
love,
anurag
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= shish utare bhoomi dhare vah pathe ghar mahi =
= =
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On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Jan Barendrecht wrote:
> As a rule, the ascent of K. is accompanied by a lot of secondary effects,
> phenomena like visions, sounds, associations you never did see before,
> creativity, the idea that only you can solve all of the world´s problems
> etc. If these phenomena are allowed to lead "a life of their own", it could
> mean the start of serious problems for the one involved. K. will manifest
> most vividly in the area of your (hidden) talents. Shree Purohit Swami, in
> the "Aphorisms of Yoga" , is very right, commenting the stage of
> Sampradnyata Samadhi: " [] I met a yogi who was a great musician, another
> who was a great singer, both meditated on the inner music, listened to it
> day and night, but failed to control that pleasure and lead a normal life.
> One forgot that he had a body, forgot all that he should have remembered,
> somebody had to say ‘time to take food´; ‘time to go to the privy´ []". The
> only true purpose of K. is Self-realization and nothing else. Unless you
> have experienced K. as such a raging fire that you are on the verge of "all
> systems overload" until the final phase of enlightenment, you will never
> notice how long it takes, before the negative aspects of the lower chakras
> are fully transformed. As long as you experience aversions, dislikes etc.,
> be sure you haven´t completely transformed them. If, under the influence of
> the Force we all cherish, someone behaves in a way that creates aversion in
> you, you should actually be grateful. It should be met as an opportunity to
> reflect on the nature of "like & dislike". As long as you experience this
> like/dislike, be sure you are in no position to "help out" the person you
> think is doing something wrong, because, essentially, both of you are on
> the same level. When "the goal of life is Self-realization" is a phrase
> that applies to you, every event in life, no matter how "good/bad/trivial"
> the experience, will always be meaningful, providing you with the lesson(s)
> you need to proceed. The right sequence in dealing with " events & others"
> is: reason out things first, then apply compassion (and act accordingly).
> As long as you are subjected to the law of Karma, you are either the doer
> or the victim. By posing your deeds, you (can) impose the role of victim on
> others. Nevertheless, there are always two options. When you are the doer,
> you can opt for Self-realization. When you (think you) are the victim it is
> the "easiest way out", or apply (logical) reasoning first and compassion
> later. The choice is always yours.
>
> I hope you take the best one.
>
> Jan
>
> --- Between black and white there are many shades of grey. Yet, all shades
> contain both extremes ---
>
>
> Attachment Converted: "C:\SLIP\EUDORA\reGGorme"
>
>
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 21:51:53 PST
From: "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: ki/prana
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I learned something new today.
I am reading a book called THE BREATH OF LIFE by Kozo Nishino,
ISBN 4-7700-2022-8 .
Mr. Nishino, besides attaining the highest ranks of aikido and kung fu
was a classically trained ballet dancer and choreographer among other
amazing things.
He teaches a breathing method with ki to his students.
Have you ever seen those movies where the martial arts master flings
people into the air with just his thoughts? Now I know that is possible
cause I met a master who can but in my naivete I thought it was his ki
throwing them.
Nishino states,"Through the hands, one transmits, the entire body's ki
to the other person. As one improves, however, one can send energy into
the other person's body directly without touching the hands." (I have
known this for years and am adept at this. I know there are others on
this list who are adept at this too.)
..now the interesting part..."When the ki of two people collide, the
weaker ki will rebound. That is why many people who receive ki from
their instructors are thrust back involuntarily (he has pictures of men
flying off into the air from his body without him touching them).
"As their ki becomes strong, and if they are still overpowered by their
instructors, the rebound effect will be stronger, making them reel or
'fly' or manifest some other strange and wonderful reaction. They are
not thinking when the energy enters their bodies; nature and their body
rejoice. Quantum theory states that the elementary particles that make
up the body's cells are composed of vibrating energy. When the body
receives a strong input of energy, the vibrations are aligned and
amplified, and hence setting off various reactions. In that moment when
ki passes through the body, one feels inexpressibly good, and in fact
some students start laughing uncontrollably."
...Could it be that when I send energy to other people it is my energy
coming back to me that makes me smile :)...reflected by them? Seems to
make sense to me.
Then he talked about something that I do intuitively but he happened to
discover by chance one day in an a match with a more experienced
opponent. He talked about breathing from the soles of the feet.
He says that in Oriental health..the feet are considered the second
heart...it is another place from where to pump in ki. He says a lot of
his students 'breathe in' ki from the center of the earth from the lava.
The intent is to breathe from the feet and up and through the body.
...I do this already but it is fascinating to see this come from a
different source. I love this! A different perspective on the same
things.
Blessings,
Susan
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The universe is not obliged to keep a straight face.'
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:10:42 -0500
From: "Ed Arrons" <eeaATnospamaug.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Kommunion
Message-Id: <199803140611.BAA02872ATnospamsandia.aug.com>
Ed Arrons here, just dropping by to say hello and to thank you all for
your flow of thoughts, your expressions of love and joy, your reaching
out to grow as caring human beings, and your humor. I've learned a
lot from all of you in sorting out your different points of view and deeply
held convictions.
I haven't devoted much time responding to your posts in the past few
months, being too busy reading yours and contemplating the greater
meaning of this adventure in communication.
I think we are all here for a greater purpose, perhaps to convert this
means of communication to a form of communion with unprecedented
spiritual power and evolutionary significance, radiating love, joy, and
healing to so many deprived people and our ailing planet.
Hopefully we will shift some of our K energy to this end.
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:29:54 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
cc: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>,
Fernando Velez-Pardo <fvpATnospambellsouth.net>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Words from a new friend!!
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Hi Anandajyoti,
>
> Anandajyoti>
It is not sex, I would rather consider it is the sexual
expectations
> which consume more of the life force than the sexual act itself. When it is
> through Love then sex is also healthy, and is not sin. If it is out of the lu
stful
> desire then it is harmful for the individualand others. I would not confuse
sex
> with lust. Sex is the act and lust is the motive power behind ,as is LOVE.
Anurag > The question is not whether sex is a sin or not. It is right
that " When it is through Love then sex is also healthy" . But
what even if in that sex energy flows downwards i.e. through
ejaculation( i am assuming that after sex if energy flows
downwards it will be lost in ejaculation). By becoming perfect in
certain yogic exrcises one can have sex and at the same time
divert the energy upwards simultaneously rather than downwards
than one will lose nothing.
> Anandajyoti> There is nothing distorted here, you may have a different perspective,
> and that is your choice. Nothing wrong or right here.
>
Anurag > I said distorted because I think that some of the feelings that
one experience get associated with the sexual feelings mostly in
early years of life. So now the act that earlier generated some
other feelings will now trigger sexual feelings i.e. the mind has
diverted towards sexual feelings more.
> Anandajyoti> Yes , I agree to a point. When Kundalini energizes the
Swadhistana
> Chakra , one is sexually aroused, and the upward movement of the
Kundalini ccurs
> naturally.. If it happens only to one in the relationship, yes one needs to
> transmute the desire, and to use that energy or act through in other
creative
> ways, which is the transmutation process. When conditions of
consensuality are
> present and if both partners choose to join through LOVE, then , I don't
consider
> the sexual act which then is through mutually agreed and chosen responses has
> anything to do with control the desire, neither is it a sin.
> The choices of the individuals involved it of prime importance. On the same
> criteria, if one of the partners be unwilling then it should never be
forced upon,
> for one individual's
> gratification. Gratification without LOVE , without respect for the other
partner
> is heinous, and LOVE at all, in my opinion.
>
Anurag > Lines from My first answer in starting of this mail will be the
reply to your above lines.
>
> Anandajyoti>
Brahmacharya or absolute abstinence does work very well, for
monks or for those who have chosen that path of absolute celobacy . Others
can also choose to abstain whenever they wish to do so. There is nothing
wrong there either. As Once said in earlier post, that Kundalini rises
normally in all who have vertebrae from the base to the solar plexus and
it also comes down to base chakra . In humans,whenever we have LOVE
(not the desire for sexual act), during those times the Kundalini also
rises to the level of the heart chakra and then after a duration it
> travels back down to the base. When involved in artistic activites or
singing , the Kundalini rises to the throat Chakra and after a duration
it flows back again to the base chakra, and so on and so forth even including
the Crown Chakra, during MEDITATION on the third eye or the Crown Chakra.
If one is able to hold and sustain the Kundalini at the Sahasrara or
the crown, for a continuos period of twenty one days , then the soul can
leave the body for good, through Nirvikalpa Samadhi. It all depends what
the individual wants through the movements of the Kundalini.
Anurag>
Here you are saying that Kundalini rises to Anahat(Heart) Chakra
and after sometime it returns to base than in going to Anahat
Chakra it will have to croos other Chakras in between than why
don't experience other Chakras on the way to Anahat Chakra.
Anurag> I suppose that the awakening of kundalini means you have
successfully penettrated and awakened all of your major
seven Chakras.
Anandajyoti>
Awakening to me is simple waking up to that awareness by my
consciousness. Even if the awareness be not present, yet the Kundalini
will awaken to do the functions mainly centered around the base, sacral
and solar plexus chakras, in our day to day lives all the time. I have
explained this on my web page, in my article on Kundalini.
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Anurag> Here i will say onething that once your full Kundalini is
awakenened that means your Sahasrar has awakened fully.
Anandajyoti>
I could not agree with you here., as awakening and sustaining
Kundalini at any level of consciousness and awareness are two different
phenomena.Even after Kundalini has been to the crown Chakra it will come back
again to the Base Chakra, in the natural course. The difference is ,
the experience which is obtained when Kundalini is at the Crown Chakra,
remains for the life time of the individual in the memory. How we act in
our lives through the learning of that superb experience, is the matter of
our consideration, choice , and living in our day to day lives from that
center of realization.
Anurag > The importance of Experience can die in this material world and
according to you then individual will be same as he was before
Kundalini awakening. So then what's use is to raising Kundalini.
You haven't said anything about sustaining.Can you kindly explain
sustaining clearly.
Anandajyoti> One may loose interest in material life for a duration, or for a
lifetime, and then they also can decide for themselves how they wish to use
that experience in their lives, according to their choice.
Anurag> Once they have lost interest in material life then how can they
decide themselves. Moreover when one's Sahasrar has been awakenend
one will in such a bliss that one will not leave that stage.
Anandajyoti >
Who is the
Guru? The guru in person is simply a flagperson, showing us the way, it
depends on the individuals own aspiration and effort
Anurag> Guru is someone who is placed higher then GOD because HE is the
one who united you with the GOD until then one was a fool. He is
the one who took care of you when you lived or you didn't whether
his presence is felt to you or not.
GURUR BRAHMA GURUR VISHNU GURUR DEVO MAHESHWARA |
GURUH SAKSHAT PARBRAHMA TASMYEE SHRI GURUVAYEE NAMAH ||
He is who tells you don't live for self because
THOSE ALONE LIVE WHO LIVE FOR OTHERS
REST ALIVE ARE MORE THAN DEAD
I picked this quote from a tailor's shop.
Anandajyoti >
The winds of grace of the Universe is always there, one must unfulr the
sails to get its benefit and advantage.
Anurag > I suppose there is nothing like benefit or advantage. Till these
words are there one thinks of self. When he/she has seen he/she
and universe are the one then whose benefit and advantage will he
take.
According to Advaita philosophy, You are SELF REALIZED all the time, take the
obstructions of the ego and personality away, and the SELF shines in its own
LIGHT."KNOW thyself and to your own SELF be true- sayeth the LORD."
Blessings
and Love,
> > Anandajyoti
> > http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
Love,
anurag
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:14:01 -0800
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
To: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
CC: Jan Barendrecht <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: GG or me
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Anurag Goel wrote:
> Hi Jan,
> What you have said is an awakening thought because having little
> bit of experiences of K doesn't mean your full kundalini is
> awakened.
> Anandajyoti> Why do we have to use verbiage which rather expresses
> judgemental attitude? Because words have power, in the East its also
> known Sabda Brahman. It behoves us to use our words appropriately,
> otherwise I feel we only feed the fire of our ego. Don't we?
> On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Jan Barendrecht wrote: As a rule, the ascent of K.
> is accompanied by a lot of secondary effects, phenomena like visions, sounds,
> associations you never did see before, creativity,
Anandajyoti> Yes , it is true that a lot of secondary effects occur which are K
related.
> Jan>the idea that only you can solve all of the world´s problems
> > etc.
Anandajyoti> I strongly feel that the above idea as you state, happens with all
of us,when the ego , our conditionings, our attitudes, our inclinations, which
acts as
filters to our understanding of what we perceive.
> Jan>If these phenomena are allowed to lead "a life of their own", it could
> > mean the start of serious problems for the one involved. K. will manifest
> > most vividly in the area of your (hidden) talents.
Anandajyoti> This is very reasonable , that whatever energy we may possess or
acquiremay be manifested in flowering our hitherto known talents also, and they
can also be
used in fantasies of unlimited dimesions. That is why , a preparatory period is
essential
for all of us, just as, if we want to experience, learn , understand and apply
even any
subject of this realm, like politics, economics, sciences. philosophy etc. we
need to start
in a gradual way , progressing step by step, to know the pros and cons of the
subjects
which we may study and grow towards more experiences.Do we blame the sciences,
if an explosive expert uses the knowledge to destroy property and others in
society.
For each category, there exist right applications and mis- applications, don't
they?
With best wishes,
Anandajyoti
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:45:53 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
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Subject: Re: African magic, juju, witch doctors etc
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Hi,
Can I know why you need such info? I didn't understand
" correspondences between Indo-European and African spirituality
and the esoteric or occult"
Love,
anurag
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On Fri, 13 Mar 1998 Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserve.com wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> It's been my observation that apart from an interest in kundalini, list
> members have broad interests in occultism, spiritual theories and so on. As a
> child I lived in Africa, and met a genuine witch doctor (i.e. one there not just
> because of tourists). What would interest me is any info on correspondences
> between Indo-European and African spirituality and the esoteric or occult. Can
> anyone shed light on the subject?
>
> Tom
>
>
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