1998/03/12 00:59
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #185
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 185
Today's Topics:
RE: Choosing Life [ freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net> ]
GG or me [ John Living <jlivingATnospamdirect.ca> ]
re: GG or me [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
Re: Choosing Life [ "Dave Hourigan" <linnymATnospamnidlink.com ]
Re: GG or me [ freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net> ]
Re: Light within [ Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ]
Re: GG or me [ valeriec <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> ]
Re: Words from a new friend!! [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: Light within [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: New boy on the list [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: Words from a new friend!! [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
Re: New boy on the list [ "Dave Hourigan" <linnymATnospamnidlink.com ]
Re: Light within [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:20:37 -0800
From: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
Subject: RE: Choosing Life
Message-ID: <35074675.1C2CATnospamblarg.net>
gloria,
my opionion of your tactics remain unchanged
> GG
> I think you are a bit confused on this. Quite a few people are on both
> lists.
> >
yeah, and they are the ones, who, through no fault of Yours know what
the snips you
sent along were about,
> GG
> I have taken the k list off since people didn't want them mixed. I will
> only send over something from the k list that people would be interested
> in.
wasn't that my point, did you miss something, was I not clear?
I am not confused, nor am I worried that YOUR saying I am may change
that...thank god!
and as my last word on the subject - [ yipee, thank GOD, again!]
should MY cancer return,
[which of corse, now it can't as I know from where it came and put a
stop to THAT nonsense]
but, should it.....or anything else come along to wake me up ~ or do me
in!
do humanity a favor,
keep your opinions as to WHO did the dirty deed to yourself.
Unless of corse you wish to give ME full credit,
it is after all MY ship to sail,
-----gone to fetch that champane for the christening -----and then I'll
be sailing.
[bet that will bring a sigh of releif to a whole hankerin' of k-folks!]
poo!
only got K-ool A-id, oh well,
a K-A send off it shall be......
:) :) :) <--- Kool Aid smiles......
freda
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:06:30 -0700
From: John Living <jlivingATnospamdirect.ca>
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: GG or me
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Angelique
Gloria Greco is using up tremendous band width, is still cross-posting, and
is not receptive to hints and requests from myself and others.
So I have 2 choices - to unsubscribe myself, or for her to be removed from
the list.
I will wait a day or so to see what occurs, otherwise 'me gfone'.
John
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 22:19:04 -0500
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: re: GG or me
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Gloria,
Please stop. Please stop now, sweet. Please stop writing letters to this
list about this matter. You are only making things worse. Take a day off
without posting. Better yet, take two. Best of all, take a sabbatical of a
week or more and let this die a natural death.
:-)
Sharon
shawebbATnospamyhc.edu
A new fractal gallery was posted to this site on Jan. 1, '98:
http://www.fractalus.com/sharon/
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ENC Digital Dozen; Enchantment Award; ArtSearch Featured Site;
NetTech NeatTech: Best of the Web; Eye Candy, Honorable Mention;
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:24:11 -0800
From: "Dave Hourigan" <linnymATnospamnidlink.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, <DIVELCDATnospamaol.com>
Subject: Re: Choosing Life
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Divelcd wrote:
>Just took a look at the cover of SPLHCB, hadnt looked at that since the
70's!
>I appreciate the passed down knowledge. George Harrison is my favorite ex-
>beatle. I knew he had an awakening, I guess I thought drugs had more to do
>with it then gurus! I suppose many people become misled...
>I have a personal question that I would like to ask someone about this
>Kundalini. Would you be welcome to hearing it? I am not a "weirdo", its
just
>very personal and I havent found anyone to question.
You may want to check out the following site:
http://members.aol.com/jsweeney/pepper.htm
It's a click and link to everybody in the picture on the cover. It's pretty
good technology to be able to link to so many in a crowded picture like
that!
Enjoy,
Dave
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:42:41 -0800
From: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
To: John Living <jlivingATnospamdirect.ca>
CC: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>,
kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: GG or me
Message-ID: <350759B1.7500ATnospamblarg.net>
Dear John and other K list members,
I am dreadfully sorry for my part in this mess.
I had already decided there was little use in my continuing to post on
this matter.
for a reference, I checked out my trash bin, whoa what a load!
lordy, ouch,
dreadfully sorry,
got a fly in my craw.
I have set the poor little fellow free.......
freda
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 22:51:41 -0500
From: Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com>
CC: dorf01ATnospammail.win.org, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Light within
Message-ID: <35075BCD.D1EF32ADATnospamconcentric.net>
Hello Hillary,
When you step in a crowded room, place, do people start to fell calmer, more
relax, yet more vitalize, with you not having to focus on anything or anyone?
What more do we really need to do?
Love
Antoine
Druout wrote:
> How can I make use of this energy/bliss that is so astounding. I feel selfish
> in experienclng so much pleasure when there is so much pain out there. Is
> Healing and Teaching the only uses usually associated with K??
>
> Any ideas out there??
>
> Or should I mind my own K?
>
> Love, Hillary
--
"A new world is born in every moment. The question is, are we present to
this magnificent birth?" Marcus S. Robinson
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:08:12 -0800
From: valeriec <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: fredaATnospamblarg.net
CC: John Living <jlivingATnospamdirect.ca>,
Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>,
kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: GG or me
Message-ID: <35075193.1311ATnospamptialaska.net>
freda wrote:
>
> Dear John and other K list members,
> I am dreadfully sorry for my part in this mess.
> I had already decided there was little use in my continuing to post on
> this matter.
> for a reference, I checked out my trash bin, whoa what a load!
> lordy, ouch,
> dreadfully sorry,
> got a fly in my craw.
> I have set the poor little fellow free.......
> freda
v: Greetings from Alaska!
you know what? I do this myself periodically. Seems I only feel inspired
to post if I am become frustrated or mad, or if my *real* life is in a
shambles, & sometimes when I find something hysterically funny. No real
grey, nurturing areas; only contrasting shades of black & white; a
mish-mash of passionate extremities.
I write enlightening poetry, paint nice pictures, & play nice music -
why don't I share more positive observations? I resonate with the
'lowest common denominator'; seek to defend someone or something
because of unresolved passions. I have yet to spend the time digesting
traumas & experiences to 'let go' & graduate from my *ego* in
interpersonal communications.
meditation seeking transference into life...
It has taken me quite some time & research to figure this out; I do not
share this insight lightly.
i am entirely certain that everything is compassion. compassion is
necessary to remaining balanced on this roller coaster.
that's what I appreciate so much about GG; she is *ALL compassion*. She
really is pure there; just seems to go overboard within a medium such as
this writing forum.
It is not so much she feels *superior* & talking down, I have found,
just overly eager to soothe jangled nerves.
what with WW3 a possible imminence, & all the other stressors inherent
nowadays - I appreciate that.
Anyway, I - for one - forgive you unconditionally!
remember to smile!
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 01:38:23 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Fernando Velez-Pardo <fvpATnospambellsouth.net>
cc: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Words from a new friend!!
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Hi Fernando,
It's not the sexual energy but the life force that is moved
upwards rather then downwards i.e. ejaculation.
Once kundalini is awakened i suppose one can never do bad
things. because Kundalini is awakened only after you have
got rid of all sins. And if does something bad one will
destroy oneself only.
Once your full kundalini is awakened you will yourself
work in positive way. Feel the pain of others and help them
out.
Regards,
anurag
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On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Fernando Velez-Pardo wrote:
> Hello!!!
> I was checking the internet quickly for information regarding the
> "kundalini" and some how for some unknow reason I decided to enter this
> e-mail group.
> I just became aware of the term Kundalini a couple of weeks ago when two
> fortune tellers stated that my Kundalini was open! I said what is that,
> and they explained a serpent kind of shaped alignment in the lower part
> of my column. + my third eye was also open. (That I could do what they
> where doing) Being an Aquarius with a Leo Ascendant (born 02/05/67)
> makes me sometimes quite curious, I e-mailed a friend who has further
> knowledge of this and she explained it to be a powerful energy (sexual
> energy) that can be used for good or bad, she mentioned that leaders
> like Hitler had it and used it.
> Not to worry I consider myself to be and act in a good way! To add to
> the explanations I e-mailed a German consultant friend of mine, he said
> it was that all the chackras where aligned.
>
> I am still without a definite answer, maybe some one out there can
> explain me what it really is to have the Kundalini open? and what I
> can do to work with it in a positive approach.
>
> I am supposed and know to be an evolved soul, evolution #34 was once
> told!(If that means anything) Have been told I have one foot in the
> spiritual world and another foot in the physical. That a link between
> both worlds will soon develop.
> I have been on a spiritual "research" path for 11 years, and have found
> above all a lot of inner Peace and good communication with my higher
> consciousness (GOD) I still have to work on my path, sometimes I get
> tired of the response from other and this physical plane so I do as the
> Buddha said " be in the world but not a part of it".
>
> I would love to explore more and plan to do so in the near future, but
> my job as a Director of Marketing & Sales for a translation company does
> not leave me a lot of free time, right now I am reading Forever You
> (about energies and auras) Thanks in advance to those that can give me a
> little insight.
>
> Regards and light to all!
>
> Fernando Velez-Pardo
>
>
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 01:15:44 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
cc: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>,
kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Light within
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Hi Debora,
Once one's kundalini is awakened fully he has unlimited powers
and knows what god is? So, I doubt whether your full Kundalini
is awakened. When full Kundalini is awakened one can sit in
meditation for years without any discomfort. There will be a
glow on one's face.
When one's full kundalini is awakened one
becomes the most kind person to him/her every individual in
this world is like hie/her child. One then doesn't live for
self but for others.
If your full Kundalini is awakened one
can be a master in a field one likes and give society a lot.
You can help people understand what GOD is and how to go about
experiencing him.
Regards,
anurag
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= Name : Anurag Goel =
= Course : M.Sc. Engg. ,Electrical Engg =
= Room No : PD-16 =
= e-mail : anuragATnospamee.iisc.ernet.in =
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= HOME PAGE LOCATION =
= http://144.16.69.6/people/students/anurag =
= =
= kabira yeh ghar prem ka khala ka ghar nahi =
= shish utare bhoomi dhare vah pathe ghar mahi =
= =
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On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Debora A. Orf wrote:
> Thank you for the stories... :)
>
> When i & a group of friends were meeting Lama Zopa Rinpoche, he touched
> his forehead to each of my friends, then when he got to me, he pause a
> moment first. Long enough that i looked up from my bow to look at his
> eyes. Then like he decided on something he touched his forehead to mine.
>
> Of course ever since then i've been curious *why* he pause by yours truly.
>
> Another friend of mine who's a natural healer keeps kinda telling me
> 'deb--you are capable of this too, fact is you're stronger than me...'
>
> K woke up about age 13 for me, and its always been more of a pain in the
> butt than anything useful. I used to get high on it! Yeah, real useful
> thing to do with your life energy. Now i just wanna know how to use it to
> help allieviate suffering on this crazy planet. *that* would be a useful K
> thing.
>
> Anyway i plan to sit down with my Lama when he gets back in telephone or
> face-to-face communication range.
>
> Thank you for the stories. Maybe instead of trying to keep said Energy
> under tight control, the way a confused 13 year old tried to do, i should
> let it 'out' a bit. i dunno.
>
> but anyway,
>
> lightworks of love to all beings!
>
> blue eggs! i can relate to that image. blue pearly eggs.... :)
>
> With maitri,(means 'lovingkindess' in Sanskrit)
>
> --janpa tsomo
>
>
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 01:23:07 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Bill Murhpy <quest.wmurphyATnospambizonline.co.uk>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: New boy on the list
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Hi Bill,
There should be nothing like a spiritual year in one's life.
But one's life one should have both aspects material as well as
spiritual every moment of life.
Now you can start with
understanding Yoga, Reading autobiographies and books by great
GURU'S like RAMAKRISHNA PARAMHANSA, VIVEKANANDA....
Regards,
anurag
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= Name : Anurag Goel =
= Course : M.Sc. Engg. ,Electrical Engg =
= Room No : PD-16 =
= e-mail : anuragATnospamee.iisc.ernet.in =
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= HOME PAGE LOCATION =
= http://144.16.69.6/people/students/anurag =
= =
= kabira yeh ghar prem ka khala ka ghar nahi =
= shish utare bhoomi dhare vah pathe ghar mahi =
= =
==============
On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Bill Murhpy wrote:
> May i join this group of close friends?
>
> My name is bill I live in hertfordshire england and only just heard of
> kundalini. As it happens from two sources at once, first a talk was
> advertised on kyoga and before I went to see I found a merkaba site which
> was talking of this powerfull source of enegy.
>
> I am interested in london sites where I can learn more.
>
> I have set this year as my spiritual developement year so far reiki and
> crysal healing are comming naturaly but I am interested to readauras tarot
> and other more magikal things. I do not have internet access at home so
> have to mail form work but I will respond in a reasonable time frame.
>
> I am male 31years old or should that be young? single and been brought up
> in strick catholic background so never had a chance to do things from other
> cultures as they could be other religions and thats not
> allowed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> I lookforward to receiving your helpfull comments book sujestions to a real
> novice like me and to feeling part of your friendly group if accepted.
>
>
>
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 22:11:10 -0800
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
To: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
CC: Fernando Velez-Pardo <fvpATnospambellsouth.net>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Words from a new friend!!
Message-ID: <35077C76.C55FF3BAATnospamgeocities.com>
Anurag Goel wrote:
> Hi Fernando,
> It's not the sexual energy but the life force that is moved
> upwards rather then downwards i.e. ejaculation.
Anandajyoti>I would consider, that the sexual energy within us is also an
aspect of life force.
Looked at from the physiological point of view, the kundalini when aroused,
could be used in ways other than sexual.. It has also been proven nowadays,
that physiological changes do occur in the sexual sense, even when the mind is
not bent upon it. The physiological responses automatically occur, also
sexually ,due to erotic stimuli, whether visual, audio, touch, smell, ands
smell. These physiological responses, when acted upon by the individual's mind
through the desires gives it the expression , which we choose to give to it.
The upward movement of the Kundalini manifests in many ways, not only sexual.
It also affects us psychologically, it alters our awareness and consciousness
at various levels of our psyche. The ejaculation part although a physical
expression as you say the downward movement, can also be expressed through our
emotions and and mental faculties, I believe.
>
>
> Anurag> Once kundalini is awakened i suppose one can never do
> bad
> things. because Kundalini is awakened only after you have
> got rid of all sins.
Anandajyoti> I would beg to differ on the above. Its not the awakening of the
Kunadalini, but regular experience of its movements, and how we choose to
use that energy when unleashed, Normally the Kundalini is awakened in all, and
it only makes its movements at the Base, Sacral and the Solar Plexus in our
day to day lives, all the time. It is only when we are able to transform our
lives in such a way that we make it go to the higher chakras, the Heart, the
Throat, the Spiritual eye and the Crown., and which elevates our
consciousness. How we use the energy , is the crux of the matter. So I could
not agree that anyone who has Kundalini awakened cannot do anything bad. And
again , bad and good are relative terms in society. In my opinion it is the
motive behind our expressions which matters the most.
>
>
> Anurag> Once your full kundalini is awakened you will yourself
> work in positive way. Feel the pain of others and help them
> out.
> Anandajyoti> The above as you say can only be done if, you are so inclined.
> Kundalini is neutral. It is the power within each of us and it also depends
> on how we as individuals choose to use it , I think, that makes all the
> difference.
Blessings and Love,
Anandajyoti
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 22:48:14 -0800
From: "Dave Hourigan" <linnymATnospamnidlink.com>
To: "Anurag Goel" <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>,
"Bill Murhpy" <quest.wmurphyATnospambizonline.co.uk>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: New boy on the list
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> Anurag Goel Wrote:
> Now you can start with
> understanding Yoga, Reading autobiographies and books by great
> GURU'S like RAMAKRISHNA PARAMHANSA, VIVEKANANDA....
Bill, as well as those books, a great starter is "Autobiography of a Yogi"
by Paramahansa Yogananda.
Yogananda was not born an enlightened guru. He pretty much had an
unquenchable thirst to know God. That lead him to Sri Yukteswar, who was a
direct disciple of Lahiri Mahasaya, who was a disciple of the great Babaji.
The type of yoga they all practiced was Kriya Yoga, which is one of the most
powerful traditions in that it arouses the kundalini very quickly.
Paramahansa Yogananda used to say that Kriya Yoga was like " an airplane to
God." He later was directed by Babaji to bring these Eastern teachings to
the West and started the "Self-Realization Fellowship" org. in California.
One of his common threads that I think created universal appeal to
Westerners was his love of Jesus Christ, which he frequently referred to
during his lectures.
I won't give away anymore of the story, but this book has transformed many
who had the same thirst to know God as he.
Check it out
Dave
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:58:18
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com>
Cc: dorf01ATnospammail.win.org, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Light within
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At 18:56 11/03/98 EST, Druout wrote:
>Dear Debora,
>
>I've been asking myself this question too-- Is
>Healing and Teaching the only uses usually associated with K??
>Love, Hillary
>
NO!
From earliest times, K. was been used to make the fields fertile,
regenerate the planet, and She needs it these days, more than ever.
Recently, Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi has been teaching sahaja yoga to folks
in the former soviet union, and they have been using it **successfully** to
heal polluted areas.
Recently, there were many worldwide meditations to avert a second gulf war.
Give your K-fired love to the heart of the planetary Mother, send it out
along the ley lines to the elemental kingdom.. and Gaia will make good use
of it and give you much love back in return.
Or be specific, and pick the oil spill landfull strip mine clearcut
nuclear waste dump of your choice, and start to heal it. Take a whack at
chernobyl, or the underground nuclear tests in french polynesia.
Shaky from too much -fire? Give it to auschwitz.. then or now.. we can
heal the past, in the power of the Now.. K. fire is limitless..
Go get 'em, Grrrl..
Blessings, Mystress.
IMHO, that is why we have this current wave of KA.. we asked for a
miracle, to fix what we have wrought.. and Goddess provides.
>
>
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