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1998/03/11 12:56
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #181


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 181

Today's Topics:
  Re: Choosing Life [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ]
  Reason [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ]
  Re: Choosing Life [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ]
  The Invitation - a reminder [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ]
  Re: kundalini chaos? [ "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> ]
  Re: Light within [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
  Re: kundalini chaos? [ DIVELCD <DIVELCDATnospamaol.com> ]
  Re: kundalini chaos? [ Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu> ]
  New boy on the list [ "Bill Murhpy" <quest.wmurphyATnospambizonl ]
  Choosing (a better) Life [ John Living <jlivingATnospamdirect.ca> ]
  Re: Choosing Life [ freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net> ]
  Words from a new friend!! [ Fernando Velez-Pardo <fvpATnospambellsouth ]
  Re: New boy on the list [ freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net> ]
  Re: Choosing Life with Angelique- Se [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
  Re: New boy on the list [ Chris Hughes <aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co. ]
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 09:12:36 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: fredaATnospamblarg.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Choosing Life
Message-Id: <970311091236.n0000499.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>

on 10 Mar 98, fredaATnospamblarg.net wrote...

>Good Evening Angelique,
>Nice to hear from both yourself and Lobster in these last few days.
>you write:
>> Peace, Freda, and all those who so gallantly rushed to my defense..
>> thanyou, but it is not needed. I am not harmed by Gloria's suggestion, it
>> has occured to me as well, but I don't hold Lobster as a weak creature that
>> would let email get to him so much...
>
>accually, I was rushing to my own defense! and possibly that of others
>who come here as a means to get away from the crud, the nastiness and
>the small minded-ness that creeps into personal spaces. It is difficult,
>to sort real crud from crud-crud sometimes through the racket. GG's
>goody two shoes heart centered jibberish isn't covering the crud and it
>P*&*&ed me off. I didn't need it. I didn't come here to decifer that
>kind of garbage. I was defending my own position. I guess it may have
>seemed otherwise, but then had such a remark been made about GG I would
>have been just as bent over it.
>I was/am annoyed at the question.

Dear Fiend (er . . . sorry . . . Friend)
The pixies are dancing in the clouds (it is Spring time - well not everywhere)
I think you have a right to be angry. How dare people say anything that is not
about Kundalini. Yes!
Who do they think they are?
Yes!
How dare people be human? Who do they think they are?
Meanwhile . . .
Who needs spiritual development when they have a fridge? After all sometimes
food is a comfort and sometimes a demon.
So dear friends remember, you have a right to be angry. After all its just a
feeling, an emotion - it can be destructive but hey who cares?
Who cares?
The pixies are dancing in the clouds (it is Spring time - well not everywhere)
And if that seems mad - what of it . . .

Lobster
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 09:21:47 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, Germaine <ghornsbyATnospamtallships.istar.ca>,
 Dave Caddy ESP <poetsATnospamin2it.co.uk>
Subject: Reason
Message-Id: <970311092147.n0000502.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>

Written by Danny Dutton, age 8, from Chula Vista, California, for his third
grade homework assignment to "Explain God".

One of God's main jobs is making people. He makes them to replace the ones
that die so there will be enough people to take care of things on earth.

He doesn't make grown-ups, just babies. I think because they are smaller and
easier to make. That way, He doesn't have to take up His valuable time
teaching them to talk and walk, He can just leave that to mothers and fathers.

God's second most important job is listening to prayers. An awful lot of this
goes on, since some people, like preachers and things, pray at times besides
bedtime.

God doesn't have time to listen to the radio or TV because of this.

Because He hears everything there must be a terrible lot of noise in His ears,
unless He has thought of a way to turn it off.

God sees everything and hears everything and is everywhere which keeps Him
pretty busy. So you shouldn't go wasting His time by going over your mom and
dad's head asking for something they said you couldn't have.

Atheists are people who don't believe in God. I don't think there are any in
Chula Vista. At least there aren't any who come to our church.

Jesus is God's Son. He used to do all the hard work like walking on waterand
performing miracles and trying to teach the people who didn't want to learn
about God. They finally got tired of Him preaching to them and they crucified
Him.

But He was good and kind like His Father and He told His Father that they
didn't know what they were doing and to forgive them and God said OK.

His Dad (God) appreciated everything that He had done and all His hard work on
earth so He told Him He didn't have to go out on the road anymore, He could
stay in heaven. So He did.

And now He helps His Dad out by listening to prayers and seeing things which
are important for God to take care of and which ones He can take care of
Himself without having to bother God. Like a secretary only more important

You can pray anytime you want and they are sure to hear you because they got
it worked out so one of them is on duty all the times.

You should always go to Church on Sunday because it makes God happy, and if
there's anybody you want to make happy, it's God.

Don't skip church to do something you think will be more fun like going to the
beach. This is wrong! And, besides, the sun doesn't come out at the beach
until noon anyway.

If you don't believe in God, besides being an atheist, you will be very
lonely, because your parents can't go everywhere with you, like to camp, but
God can.

It is good to know He's around you when you're scared in the dark or when you
can't swim very good and you get thrown into real deep water by big kids.

But you shouldn't just always think of what God can do for you. I figure God
put me here and He can take me back anytime He pleases.

And that's why I believe in God."
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 08:57:43 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Cc: fredaATnospamblarg.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Choosing Life
Message-Id: <970311085743.n0000498.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>

on 10 Mar 98, Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote...

> Oy, what a tempest.. Peace, All...
>
>Lobster wrote:
>>> > > > > I am aware of were the problem is and from where it stems.
>>> > > > > The process of unravelling will take time.
>>> > > > > Ed
>
> I interpreted this mysterious statement to mean you were disinclined to
>disscuss it much further, as you have not yet fully plumbed the meanings
>yourself.. I found your post fascinating and resonant, and tho I have not
>been posting much of late, I spent much time thinking on it. Guess it's
>time to pull it up and respond with my experiences.... which are all about
>me me me.. :)
> Welcome back, Dude.. I can feel the shift in your energy.. a new place of
>peace, opening. Beautiful. Blessed be. Sad to hear that you are feeling
>poorly, but trusting the best will come of it...

Many thanks for your kind words of welcome. I will discuss where appropriate.
This is not the time or place.
The important thing here is ownership. We may have been born with ill health or
it may have been dependent on upbringing or circumstances. We can not avoid it
if it is there. What we do with it. How we relate to it. If possible how we
become whole (within any limits of congenital conditions) is all a process of
unfoldment and learning.

>>Gloria Greco wrote:
>>> > > > Have you supressed emotions, or did this happen in the things that
>>> > > > happened with Mystress over the net? Gloria
>
>>> freda wrote:
>>> > my god! gloria, are you serious?
>>> > freda
>
> Peace, Freda, and all those who so gallantly rushed to my defense..
>thanyou, but it is not needed. I am not harmed by Gloria's suggestion, it
>has occured to me as well, but I don't hold Lobster as a weak creature that
>would let email get to him so much... tho admittedly, his tactics hit a
>nerve with me a few times and I spewed some anger and scratched off some of
>my own skin. Perhaps because I recognised, as he has also, that the
>intentions behind his attacks were not always ideally clear. Nor sometimes,
>were mine. We learned much from each other in this way, it was not always
>an easy road.

Exactly so. Intentions and motivations are very subtle - very subtle. How we
provide comfort and care, how we provide energy care and Love for others is very
dependent on our own experience and understanding of this. In order to release
the objective nature of this capacity we have to let go of ourself, our needs
and motivations. In this sense Love is always unconditional but expressed
through a weak and flawed being - ourselves.

> Free will Is, and Lobster and I freely chose our alternating roles as
>aggressor and victim, because that was our learning curve at the time.
> Just as Gloria has freely chosen to bring up the issue of responsiblity
>on the list by lobbing a grenade in my direction.. perhaps knowing it will
>have little effect on me, or on her, safe in her cloud of detachment.. but
>the blast of it on the subceptible will cause some stuff to come up on the
>list to be cleared and resolved.
> (shrug) Gloria and I have lobbed a few good bombs at each other before,
>too.. verrry colorfully.. from my view, when the dust settled, we both grew
>more tolerance from it.. I stopped christian bashing, and she stopped
>blaming everything on Satan like the church lady.. :) Of course, Gloria
>likely interpreted the results differently.. :D

Exactly so. Each interprets according to their capacity. On some lists I
introduce myself as an esoteric Satanist. On others I quote from the Bible. The
thing is to see the value in Christianity (and its huge effect on our behaviour,
morals and world view) and to lose our terror of demons, madness, illness,
aliens that go bump in the night and so on.
We must also lose needs to impress or help (a very subtle form of egotism)
others.
Our presence and growth is sufficient to alter the nature of our existence and
ripple through . . .
but of course I can not resist by finishing . . .

Hail Satan
Christ is King

Lobster-ed
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 09:28:03 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: The Invitation - a reminder
Message-Id: <970311092803.n0000503.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>

>The Invitation
>
> by Oriah Mountain Dreamer
>
> The Invitation
>
>It doesn't interest me what you do for a living.
>I want to know what you ache for
>and if you dare to dream of meeting your heart's longing.
>
>It doesn't interest me how old you are.
>I want to know if you will risk looking like a fool
>for love
>for your dream
>for the adventure of being alive.
>
>It doesn't interest me what planets are squaring your moon
>I want to know if you have touched the center of your own sorrow
>if you have been opened by life's betrayals
>or have become shrivelled and closed from fear of further pain.
>
>I want to know if you can sit with pain
>mine or your own
>without moving to hide it
>or fade it
>or fix it.
>
>I want to know if you can be with joy
>mine or your own
>if you can dance with wildness
>and let the ecstasy fill you to the tips of your
>fingers and toes
>without cautioning us to
>be careful
>be realistic to remember the limitations of
>being human.
>
>It doesn't interest me
>if the story you are telling me is true.
>I want to know if you can
>disappoint another
>to be true to yourself.
>
>If you can bare the accusation of betrayal
>and not betray your own soul.
>If you can be faithless
>and therefore trustworthy.
>
>I want to know if you can see Beauty
>even when it is not pretty
>every day.
>And if you can source your own life
>from its presence.
>
>I want to know if you can live with failure
>yours and mine
>and still stand on the edge of the lake
>and shout to the silver of the full moon,
>"Yes!"
>
>It doesn't interest me
>to know where you live or how much money you have.
>I want to know if you can get up
>after the night of grief and despair
>weary and bruised to the bone
>and do what needs to be done
>to feed the children.
>
>It doesn't interest me who you know
>or how you came to be here.
>I want to know if you will stand
>in the center of the fire
>with me
>and not shrink back.
>
>It doesn't interest me where or what or with whom
>you have studied.
>I want to know what sustains you
>from the inside
>when all else falls away.
>
>I want to know if you can be alone
>with yourself
>and if you truly like the company you keep
>in the empty moments.
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:54:02 -0400
From: "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com>
To: Dave Hourigan <linnymATnospamnidlink.com>, kl List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: kundalini chaos?
Message-ID: <3506896A.4F88BE29ATnospamerols.com>

As sometimes happens, you stumbled onto this list at a bad time. Don't let
the first impression sour you, there are many good people here. It often
happens as a list group grows closer that these little flare-ups occur.

In a way it indicates something positive because as our feelings for each
other deepen, so does our capacity to hurt each other. As we feel safer to
post something in a less guarded, "Off the top of our heads" mode, so too will
we more often put our foot in our mouth, express ourselves in an unclear way,
or simply write something that doesn't come off as we meant it to.

Hang around, Dave. Tell us more about what's going on with you.

Blessings,

Orea
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:58:31 -0600 (CST)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Light within
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980311085007.14792B-100000ATnospamwinc0>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Thank you for the stories... :)

When i & a group of friends were meeting Lama Zopa Rinpoche, he touched
his forehead to each of my friends, then when he got to me, he pause a
moment first. Long enough that i looked up from my bow to look at his
eyes. Then like he decided on something he touched his forehead to mine.

Of course ever since then i've been curious *why* he pause by yours truly.

Another friend of mine who's a natural healer keeps kinda telling me
'deb--you are capable of this too, fact is you're stronger than me...'

K woke up about age 13 for me, and its always been more of a pain in the
butt than anything useful. I used to get high on it! Yeah, real useful
thing to do with your life energy. Now i just wanna know how to use it to
help allieviate suffering on this crazy planet. *that* would be a useful K
thing.

Anyway i plan to sit down with my Lama when he gets back in telephone or
face-to-face communication range.

Thank you for the stories. Maybe instead of trying to keep said Energy
under tight control, the way a confused 13 year old tried to do, i should
let it 'out' a bit. i dunno.

but anyway,

lightworks of love to all beings!

blue eggs! i can relate to that image. blue pearly eggs.... :)

With maitri,(means 'lovingkindess' in Sanskrit)

--janpa tsomo
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:27:11 EST
From: DIVELCD <DIVELCDATnospamaol.com>
To: oreaATnospamerols.com, linnymATnospamnidlink.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini chaos?
Message-ID: <d00aff2e.3506ad51ATnospamaol.com>

Very true, lets allow trust and kindness to permeate in this group. It is all
we have to do to rid ourselves of lonliness. Some chaos/craziness is good, it
wakens us up!
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:44:08 -0500
From: Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: DIVELCD <DIVELCDATnospamaol.com>
CC: oreaATnospamerols.com, linnymATnospamnidlink.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini chaos?
Message-ID: <3506B147.3AC395F7ATnospambryant.edu>

OK. Here goes. Let the Chaos Cool. OM Namo Arihantanam. OM Namo Siddhanam. OM
Manglam.OM Shanti, Shanti, Shanti...............May this whole universe prosper
that is my cherished desire, may everyone be engaged in each others welfare, may
all our defects evaporate, may everyone be healthy, happy, blissful and in
peace..........Harsha

DIVELCD wrote:

> Very true, lets allow trust and kindness to permeate in this group. It is all
> we have to do to rid ourselves of lonliness. Some chaos/craziness is good, it
> wakens us up!
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:49:01
From: "Bill Murhpy" <quest.wmurphyATnospambizonline.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: New boy on the list
Message-Id: <3.0.5.16.19980311154901.29473288ATnospammail.bizonline.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

May i join this group of close friends?

My name is bill I live in hertfordshire england and only just heard of
kundalini. As it happens from two sources at once, first a talk was
advertised on kyoga and before I went to see I found a merkaba site which
was talking of this powerfull source of enegy.

I am interested in london sites where I can learn more.

I have set this year as my spiritual developement year so far reiki and
crysal healing are comming naturaly but I am interested to readauras tarot
and other more magikal things. I do not have internet access at home so
have to mail form work but I will respond in a reasonable time frame.

I am male 31years old or should that be young? single and been brought up
in strick catholic background so never had a chance to do things from other
cultures as they could be other religions and thats not
allowed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I lookforward to receiving your helpfull comments book sujestions to a real
novice like me and to feeling part of your friendly group if accepted.
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:34:07 -0700
From: John Living <jlivingATnospamdirect.ca>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Choosing (a better) Life
Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19980311153407.240fc636ATnospamdirect.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Gloria

Your sermons seem to always consist of how correct you are - implying that
the rest of us are wrong, being lesser mortals.

Quite frankly, this sort of sermon has been shownto be one of the best ways
to drive the congregation away.

I am sure that we al want to continue to hear from you - when you have
something constructive to say.

Judging by your recent outpourings, this would indicate that you should not
post more than one message each month.

I trust that this will enable you - and all of us - to have more restful
experiences of Kundakini.

John

J.M.Living, P.Eng., A wise old owl lived in an oak;
2731 West 11th.Avenue, the more he saw, the less he spoke;
Vancouver, B.C., the less he spoke, the more he heard;
Canada V6K 2L8 he was definitely not a political bird !
   Vox & Fax (604) 737-7456

      "The Truth is out there !" - and YOU can find it by Dowsing !
   Dowsers * Questers / Canada: "http://users.uniserve.com/~questers/"
Learn to use a Pendulum: "http://mypage.direct.ca/j/jliving/penlearn.htm"
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:45:16 -0800
From: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Choosing Life
Message-ID: <3506BF9C.18F0ATnospamblarg.net>

Lobster writes: <huge snip>
> Intentions and motivations are very subtle - very subtle.
This is along the line of where my thoughts took me this morning as I
drove the dark, quiet streets this morning.
As the sun peeked over Mt. Rainier it illuminated the very air with a
deep gold that softened [in a magical way] the uncertainty of another
day
a little something popped into my head:
Words, powerful, indeed.
but, Actions, it has been said, speak louder than words.
IMHO Intent, is the bottom line.
If I tell you "I love you."
when my intent is to control you, which is more significant? my sweet
words or my power over you?
Words are nothing but babble without intent and meaning to give them
power,
[I have found that actions can be a fairly reliable indicator of the
intent behind words.]
Language, one of the things which some like to think sets us above the
animals, a wonderful gift, and a powerful weapon when used to ensnare
another.
I admit I am sensitive to this kind of thing. It IS something I learned
to pay attention to ON purpose, the intent of others that is. Because,
in the end if I am ensnared, it is I who must take responsibility for
it.
 
In defense of myself, I'd like to add that I still fail miserably at
this task, [decifering]
and as a result I get sucked into incredibly stupid relationships and
situations- personal and otherwise!
So, if I seem to be touchy on this matter, then ya got that right!

And when my maker and I sit down to discuss this...there will be
discussion about the value of this language thing,,,,

I've never have been lied to by an animal...

I'm off to enjoy a sunny morning.....
searching for rainbows,
freda
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:05:20 -0500
From: Fernando Velez-Pardo <fvpATnospambellsouth.net>
To: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Words from a new friend!!
Message-ID: <3506C44F.DA5A6989ATnospambellsouth.net>

Hello!!!
I was checking the internet quickly for information regarding the
"kundalini" and some how for some unknow reason I decided to enter this
e-mail group.
I just became aware of the term Kundalini a couple of weeks ago when two
fortune tellers stated that my Kundalini was open! I said what is that,
and they explained a serpent kind of shaped alignment in the lower part
of my column. + my third eye was also open. (That I could do what they
where doing) Being an Aquarius with a Leo Ascendant (born 02/05/67)
makes me sometimes quite curious, I e-mailed a friend who has further
knowledge of this and she explained it to be a powerful energy (sexual
energy) that can be used for good or bad, she mentioned that leaders
like Hitler had it and used it.
Not to worry I consider myself to be and act in a good way! To add to
the explanations I e-mailed a German consultant friend of mine, he said
it was that all the chackras where aligned.

I am still without a definite answer, maybe some one out there can
explain me what it really is to have the Kundalini open? and what I
can do to work with it in a positive approach.

I am supposed and know to be an evolved soul, evolution #34 was once
told!(If that means anything) Have been told I have one foot in the
spiritual world and another foot in the physical. That a link between
both worlds will soon develop.
I have been on a spiritual "research" path for 11 years, and have found
above all a lot of inner Peace and good communication with my higher
consciousness (GOD) I still have to work on my path, sometimes I get
tired of the response from other and this physical plane so I do as the
Buddha said " be in the world but not a part of it".

I would love to explore more and plan to do so in the near future, but
my job as a Director of Marketing & Sales for a translation company does
not leave me a lot of free time, right now I am reading Forever You
(about energies and auras) Thanks in advance to those that can give me a
little insight.

Regards and light to all!

Fernando Velez-Pardo
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:53:19 -0800
From: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
To: Bill Murhpy <quest.wmurphyATnospambizonline.co.uk>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: New boy on the list
Message-ID: <3506DD9F.62DFATnospamblarg.net>

Hi Bill,
welcome.
you write:
> I am male 31years old or should that be young?
not long ago there was a string about the 31-32 age bracket, and the
possible connection to K symptoms, [check it out in the archives?]
yesterday I went here:
Kundalini Activation
http://www.best.com/~dna/sexuality/index.shtml
there you will find "one guys explaination" of the age thing that might
tie into why at the age of 31 such things would cross your path,
I've wondered before about how its been there all along, all this
spirituality [including kundalini] it is ancient stuff,
so why don't we hear about it?
maybe we do, when its time,
for me,
before age 30 I'd have said everyone here on the list was at best
delusional!
and these things we talk about.. I would have beleived them to be made
up lies,
by people trying to be big shots or something...
and here I sit, sharing in conversations about THAT, which I beleived,
to be a crock!
freda
[my mail program cuts the links on http's short, you will probably have
to copy and paste the address / or type it yourself, into your browser]
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:21:44 PST
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, lobsterATnospamclara.net
Subject: Re: Choosing Life with Angelique- Serious Humor
Message-ID: <19980311192145.19537.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain

>Subject: Re: Choosing Life with Angelique- Serious Humor
>Gloria Greco wrote:
>>is about one human participating in anothers life. If we can work out
>>things here with people who are very different from each other, and we
>>find a way to find peace and compassion, it has to have some very good
>>effects in the same dynamic going on with other people of the world.
Am
>>I communicating this with any clarity??? Its your turn.
>

Lobster wrote:
>The important thing is that there is a great opportunity and capacity
for change
>that is manifested on this list.
><<BIG SNIP>
>Let me put the question another way Gloria. Does Angelique represent
those
>aspects of yourself that are suppressed?
>
>
>The humorous but misconstrued Lobster
>
>
the OTHER Gloria (lurker Glo) writes:
ROFLMAO.....Gee, I hoped to stay out of this one..but it seems safe to
say that Angelique may represent suppressed aspects of most everyone on
the list who is NOT acting in a similar fashion. The REAL question is
just.."How much does this bother anyone?" I mean, gee, I'll be the first
to admit it WAS (at first) a bit of a stretch for me to meet, learn
about, and learn to accept our dear list Mystress. But overall, its been
good for me to do so..its not required that I understand, let alone
judge her and her life..aren't we mostly past that stage?? I do
appreciate her and her valuable contributions to us here on the
list..but am I ready or wanting to imitate her?? What does it matter??
As she said in her last post to me.."Vive le difference"

Gloria Lee

PS. I realize that by comparison to GLORIA, I barely exist on this list,
but short of changing my name..am open to suggestions..shall I just be
GLO???

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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:29:48 GMT
From: Chris Hughes <aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: New boy on the list
Message-ID: <1998031119294884101ATnospamzetnet.co.uk>

The message <3.0.5.16.19980311154901.29473288ATnospammail.bizonline.co.uk>
  from "Bill Murhpy" <quest.wmurphyATnospambizonline.co.uk> contains these words:

> May i join this group of close friends?

> My name is bill I live in hertfordshire england and only just heard of
> kundalini. As it happens from two sources at once, first a talk was
> advertised on kyoga and before I went to see I found a merkaba site which
> was talking of this powerfull source of enegy.

> I am interested in london sites where I can learn more.

> I have set this year as my spiritual developement year so far reiki and
> crysal healing are comming naturaly but I am interested to readauras tarot
> and other more magikal things. I do not have internet access at home so
> have to mail form work but I will respond in a reasonable time frame.

> I am male 31years old or should that be young? single and been brought up
> in strick catholic background so never had a chance to do things from other
> cultures as they could be other religions and thats not
> allowed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> I lookforward to receiving your helpfull comments book sujestions to a real
> novice like me and to feeling part of your friendly group if accepted.

Dear Soul/ Bill
   I have replied to your original letter through the list look under
Chris Hughes In short Phone Desmond Winfield 01367 253464 and ask
about Kundalini Foundation for Self Realisation.
Love Chris
Sai Ram

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