1998/03/11 05:47
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #180
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 180
Today's Topics:
RE: experiences [ "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhot ]
choosing life [ Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net. ]
Re: Choosing Life [ freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net> ]
Re: Choosing Life [ valeriec <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> ]
Re: Choosing Life [ valeriec <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> ]
Re: healing energy [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: [Fwd: healing energy] [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: Remove me from your list [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: Choosing Life with Angelique- Se [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ]
Re: Choosing Life with Angelique- Se [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ]
Re: Choosing Life [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ]
Re: Choosing Life with Angelique- Se [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ]
Re: Light within [ RndmOne <RndmOneATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Light within [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: Choosing Life with Angelique- Se [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ]
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:31:18 PST
From: "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com>
To: divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com,
plslalATnospamclassic.msn.com
Subject: RE: experiences
Message-ID: <19980311053118.4477.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Dear Peter,
You write:
>
>Experiences are neither good nor bad, they just are. When we are
identified
>with them, that is we have an "I" that experiences "something" we
either have
>a craving for it or an aversion to it.
I always inwardly shudder when people point out that "experiences are
neither good nor bad, they just are".
Yes they are...and that in itself can be a trap also. Understanding the
concept certainly helps bring a new level of awareness into people's
lives...mine included. But this concept often becomes a very convenient
excuse to deny any self responsiblity for what happens in a person's
life.
There is a caveat for this...use discernment and be responsible for your
self and to the people around you.
The discovery that experiences just are, is not a stopping place..unless
i no longer have a human form ;). Often times people detach themselves
right out of fulfilling life and i know fulfillment is a relative term
to some degree.
Still determined to have a life filled with more joy, more beauty, more
love, more money....
Susan
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:15:05 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: choosing life
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Four years backwhile clearing my body of old karmas, I found that
there were many hidden corners in my body where deep and dangerous past
karmas had safe heaven. I could not device any meditation method to bring
out these karmas.
So I went to Himalayas,seeked out many renowned Gurus. I stayed
with them, and would behave in such a way as to irritate or anger them
delibeerately before their disciples. They will tolerate to some extent
and at the end of certain passage of time and their limit of endurance
either they would curse me or send any one of their spirits to do their work.
And out would come my hidden and dangerours old karma. I would
watch with detachment this process (I called this process awareness with
Samta) and clean this karma.
I used this method very successfully many times.
Later I would leave the Guru amicably and both of us laughing at
the experience.
I remember Swami Vishwasji of Solan near Shimla.
Shri Guatam of Uttarkashi
Shri Laxman of Gangotri.
Shri Rajinderji (Swami Prakatacharya) of Gangotri again.
Anothe swamy of Kamshet near Poona (I forgot the name).
All of them are alive even now and some of them are haveing powerful siddhis.
I can write some interesting pages of how i would go about creating
upsets, have effects in my body and my method of purifying.
Shahanshah
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:54:36 -0800
From: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
CC: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Choosing Life
Message-ID: <3506271C.6E77ATnospamblarg.net>
Good Evening Angelique,
Nice to hear from both yourself and Lobster in these last few days.
you write:
> Peace, Freda, and all those who so gallantly rushed to my defense..
> thanyou, but it is not needed. I am not harmed by Gloria's suggestion, it
> has occured to me as well, but I don't hold Lobster as a weak creature that
> would let email get to him so much...
accually, I was rushing to my own defense! and possibly that of others
who come here as a means to get away from the crud, the nastiness and
the small minded-ness that creeps into personal spaces. It is difficult,
to sort real crud from crud-crud sometimes through the racket. GG's
goody two shoes heart centered jibberish isn't covering the crud and it
P*&*&ed me off. I didn't need it. I didn't come here to decifer that
kind of garbage. I was defending my own position. I guess it may have
seemed otherwise, but then had such a remark been made about GG I would
have been just as bent over it.
I was/am annoyed at the question.
I am intrigued by GG's dance around it. but maybe I'm just not detached
enough, tough. I'm not the one selling my path to enlightenment.
I did not get the sense from Lobster that he was unable to handle
himself, seemed quite the opposite to me, and I trust that whatever has
caused his illness HE should be the one to speak of its cause, if he
chooses.
down from my soapbox.
freda
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:53:42 -0800
From: valeriec <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
CC: fredaATnospamblarg.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Choosing Life
Message-ID: <350618CD.3A9FATnospamptialaska.net>
> > > > > > I am aware of were the problem is and from where it stems. The process of
> > > > > > unravelling will take time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ed
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you supressed emotions, or did this happen in the things that
> > > > > happened with Mystress over the net? Gloria
> > > >
> > > >
> > > my god! gloria, are you serious?
> > > email from Klist, specificly from Angelique?
> > > if your serious, maybe you need help!
> > > if your only joking, maybe you ought to say so.
> > > freda
> >gloria: There have been some discussions from time to time that can cause
> > problems if one isn't detached. You observed this conversations going
> > on, and any party in this can get damaged if there isn't also a very
> > strong capacity to let go. Mystess can have the same kind of thing
> > happening if she doesn't release, Ed and Mystress had a very intense conversation for some time. She does seem to have the ability to
> > get out of its way. It isn't about right or wrong it is about learning
> > to really let it roll off like water. Nobody is purposely slamming the
> > other but it does happen when emotions and thoughts get together.
> For this reason, everyone needs to learn to witness themself and also to
> have tolerance and compassion for the other view. This is an excellent
> list for this very reason, but we must also take responsibility when one
> of our list people has difficulties because this can contribute to it
> for sure. Thoughts are things...
v: I can testify as to how 'thoughts are things'; no error.
I don't know the specifics herein, but I do know that when two people
are really connected it can push all the buttons neccesary for whatever
tripe which is ready to manifest & disease (unease) is an option.
I shine the light before me, to make the path sturdy, & the way
straight. I am Light meeting Light, & only GOOD can result!
As for me, I shine the Light on both Mystress & Lobster. Much healing
towards this situation! God/ess bless us all!
Blessed be!
vc
--
"The sin which makes you mad and repugnant is liked better by the Lord
than
the good deed which turns you plain and insipid." Veronique
Cupier,
verse XX
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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:57:39 -0800
From: valeriec <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: fredaATnospamblarg.net
CC: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>,
lodpressATnospamintercomm.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Choosing Life
Message-ID: <350619BA.31BEATnospamptialaska.net>
<snip>
> I did not get the sense from Lobster that he was unable to handle
> himself, seemed quite the opposite to me, and I trust that whatever has
> caused his illness HE should be the one to speak of its cause, if he
> chooses.
>
> down from my soapbox.
> freda
v: let it go... No one is harmed & the point was valid.
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:16:52 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: UweJohann <UweJohannATnospamaol.com>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: healing energy
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Hi uwe,
Thanks for the info.
love,
anurag
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On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, UweJohann wrote:
> Hello anurag,
>
> thanks for reply, you asked;
>
> <<< can you make it more clear what you mean by spiritual human yoga
> , universal energy.>>>
>
> I will try it and i hope my LexiRom gives me the right words. I will use the
> public adress, hoping to find some more, who have experienced Master Dang and
> the spiritual human yoga.
> Last year, I learned a healing method, that uses the Chakras 2-7. For this,
> the teacher places his hands on the chakras 7, 6, next day 5, 4, next day 3,
> 2, always only for some seconds, except Chakra 1. Than your Chakras where re-
> activated up to 30 %. Then the next 3 days the Chakras where re-acticated up
> to 60 %. This method was used until last year for not advanced teachers.
> Advanced teachers re-activate Chakras now collective, without touching any
> Chakra, they use Chakra 6 to heal and to re-activate always on distance.
> To sustain the activation one must meditate daily only 5 minutes, thats
> enough. Now one is able to heal up to 20 persons a day.
> To complete re-activate the Chakras to 100 %, as they say it, today only
> Master Dang is able to do it. And I experienced this mass-activation last
> march in Holland. Master Dang activated over 1000 People in a great hall, in
> less than 30 sec. He sat down on the flow, we touched our own Chakra 7 and 6,
> he closed his eys, 15 or 20 seconds later it's finished.
> After that you are able to give unlimited number of persons healing energy
> only by lay on your hands, on the Chakra or onto the place of the sick organ,
> to heal. The treatment for one Person needs max. 5 minutes per day.
> This is called 'Spiritual Human Yoga' founded by Master Dang.
> To make no connection to any religion, they dont call the energy chi, prana,
> or holy spirit, only 'universal energy'.
> For each re-activation you have to pay but it's not allowed to take money for
> energy-treatment, it must be free, without any expectations.
> And now some advanced healers build a web-site, where you found some more
> informations. They want to offer thier service for free distance healing
> energy.
> I found this address by a routine search, and it was not easy, they dont make
> it verry public. It's said, that there has to be no advertising, one has to
> talk only to family or friends, so I do it now, my friends...
> I know that there are some people with different illnesses. If you want to
> look at this web-sites:
> http://www.freehealing.com/main.html
>
> Love (healing energy in the purest form) to you all
> Uwe
>
> Get free personalized email at http://email.lycos.com
>
>
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:46:05 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: celesteATnospamridgecrest.ca.us
cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: [Fwd: healing energy]
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980311124331.23920D-100000ATnospamBhaskara>
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Hi celester,
Homosexuality is an ailment otherwise there would have been
no need for females. it's an ailment may be psychic.
Regards,
anurag
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On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 celesteATnospamridgecrest.ca.us wrote:
> celesteATnospamridgecrest.ca.us wrote:
>
> > -hey.....how come that web site lists homosexuality among its ailments
> >
> > list
> > hmmm??
> > not cool. not an ailment either.
>
>
>
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:14:28 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Ajay_MathewsATnospamfpl.com
cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Remove me from your list
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Hello janpa,
The gesture you have mentioned is surely a Guru thing as he
transfers his energy to you when he touches you. He may touch
with whatever part of body it doesn't matter. And giving
energy by the way of forehead only GURU who are at a very
high level can do this. Such GURU are above any level.
It's ones fortune and Good luck that one has been touched
on Forehead.
Regards,
anurag
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On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 Ajay_MathewsATnospamfpl.com wrote:
>
> unsuscribe
> Please remove me from your list
>
> ---------------------- Forwarded by Ajay Mathews on 03/10/98 10:07 AM
> ---------------------------
>
>
> "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org> on 03/10/98 09:55:52 AM
>
> To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
> cc: (bcc: Ajay Mathews)
> Subject: Re: Light within
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 98-03-09 09:06:24 EST, aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co.uk writes:
> << The Guru I visited in India
> touched my forhread assured me that Kundalini is rising and that in
> time the light will appear but I am a little impatient.
> Love Chris
> Sai Ram >>
> What is the significance of this gesture? i know that Lamas do this too,
> when they greet you. This is very interesting that Indian gurus do this
> too.
> Maybe its a guru thing....
> my guess is that its a sort of blessing gesture.
> Curious...
> --janpa
>
>
>
>
> Get free personalized email at http://email.lycos.com
>
>
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 08:11:57 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Choosing Life with Angelique- Serious Humor
Message-Id: <970311081157.n0000467.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>
on 10 Mar 98, lodpressATnospamintercomm.com wrote...
>Harsha, you use humor, and it is wonderful. So does Ed, but sometimes
>people don't understand the humor, and it can be taken wrong. Sometimes
>people react to what I say as well, this is all a part of the
>communication process isn't it? But, once in a while something powerful
>gets focused on and this can come across with strong feelings and
>energies attached to it.
>
>There is nothing bad or wrong about this, it is simply working as one
>human to another, and I feel it is very good, because it is real..and it
>is about one human participating in anothers life. If we can work out
>things here with people who are very different from each other, and we
>find a way to find peace and compassion, it has to have some very good
>effects in the same dynamic going on with other people of the world. Am
>I communicating this with any clarity??? Its your turn.
>> << Have you supressed emotions, or did this happen in the things that
>> happened with Mystress over the net? Gloria
Certainly I have suppressed emotions. For sure.
Angelique is innocent. Well maybe not innocent . . . but has caused nothing that
might be suggested here. We could blame Microsoft.
Nobody on this list causes me any disquiet. Peoples irritation, anger, confusion
and otherwise at my antics are quite understandable and usually short lived.
What amazes me (and others) is that you would make such a ridiculous and
unperceptive suggestion. I think you should apologise - to the Pope - in person.
The important thing is that there is a great opportunity and capacity for change
that is manifested on this list.
Let me give you an example:
If I make the staement
Gloria is deluded (or Lobster or Angelique or you or . . . etc)
This is not an attack but a statement of fact. Physical existence leads us into
errors and limitations.
Now the childish personality will rebuke such a statement with the subtle
equivalent of "I hate you too!"
The more mature personality will examine its meaning and causes in relationship
to itself and to the person making the statement and then provide an objective
and detached response. In other words it will not be drawn into the childish
personality or ego - of personal esteem.
So let us examine the nature of Glorias delusion . . .
I think she can do that.
Perhaps the time is not right for such a public examination of the nature of one
persons ego.
Let me put the question another way Gloria. Does Angelique represent those
aspects of yourself that are suppressed?
The humorous but misconstrued Lobster
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 00:08:45 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: fredaATnospamblarg.net
Cc: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>, lobsterATnospamclara.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Choosing Life with Angelique- Serious Humor
Message-Id: <970311000845.n0000465.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>
on 10 Mar 98, fredaATnospamblarg.net wrote...
>> Ed
>> and Mystress had quite a long conversation going for a period of time a
>> few months ago, it finally burned its way out.
>so, good ol' heart centered Gloria.......opens it up again
>with WHAT?
>Angelique is killing lobster.
>very cleaver Gloria
>is it just mistress and lobster you wish to drag into this?
>I think not,
>you did not ask lobster in priviate email -hey lobster, is angelique
>killing you? [or is Gloria :)hheheheh]
Neither - never have done. Would not intend to.
Each participant in this pseudo drama seems to be making up their own story. Let
us go back to the start. I do not (unlike Gloria and others) believe in evil or
the devil. Therefore I can not exorcise others or myself.
It is however possible for others as Freda mentions to see aspects of themselves
and their attitudes in this ensuing process.
I have used and do use the terminology of evil, devil and so on to explain
certain states of being. Self will, gross egotism is a manifestation that clouds
more subtle perceptions.
Now.
Possesion takes many forms and it becomes more subtle. It is difficult for me to
see the limitations of my present situation except in retrospect. I and everyone
else exist in a state of limitation. The greatest danger is when a person talks
about objectivity and truth and so on but uses this as a mask for their
limitations.
Because I am aware of peoples fascination with voodoo, hoodoo and pot plants
that go bump in the night and also aware that this limits their objectivity, I
have brought this subject up. Because their blocks are so severe they do not
recognise themselves in this superstitious and frankly infantile good/evil world
view.
>As I recall, there were, as you say, a few others at the time who had a
>tough time letting their discussion get "pickey"
>are you trying to start something?
>more hits to your site for tapes possibly?
>
>Oh gee, seems this isn't rolling off my back so sweetly.
>
>some nasty-ness just don't roll so good. Babble the hell out of this one
>gloria, I am not buying it
>your "heart" has gotten a wee bit off center hun. And your lack of
>ballance is comming through loud and clear.
Lobster
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 97 21:10:51 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: fredaATnospamblarg.net
Cc: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Choosing Life
Message-Id: <970310211051.n0000449.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>
on 10 Mar 98, fredaATnospamblarg.net wrote...
><snip>
>> > > I am aware of were the problem is and from where it stems. The process of
>> > > unravelling will take time.
>> > >
>> > > Ed
>> >
>> > Have you supressed emotions, or did this happen in the things that
>> > happened with Mystress over the net? Gloria
>>
>>
>my god! gloria, are you serious?
>email from Klist, specificly from Angelique?
>if your serious, maybe you need help!
>if your only joking, maybe you ought to say so.
>freda
Gloria is quite serious in this question.
Need help?
Well it depends on whether you think possesion by higher forces is any better
than any other form of possesion :)
Depends you see . . .
Ed
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 97 23:42:58 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
Cc: lobsterATnospamclara.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Choosing Life with Angelique- Serious Humor
Message-Id: <970310234258.n0000464.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>
on 10 Mar 98, lodpressATnospamintercomm.com wrote...
>I think it is important for all people on the list to agree whatever is
>said...not to take it personally, no matter what. Gloria
I personally, disagree, and I don't think that is important either.
Lobster
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 03:27:16 EST
From: RndmOne <RndmOneATnospamaol.com>
To: mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com, dorf01ATnospammail.win.org
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Light within
Message-ID: <e98f060.35064ae7ATnospamaol.com>
Mystress.....
My my...you have a way with words! =) Glad to see someone apply the light and
feel the passion. Enjoy it and continue to spread the feeling! Thanks again
Random One (Staci) =)
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:45:03 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Chris Hughes <aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co.uk>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Light within
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>Chris wrote:
>
> >Dear Souls
> >I would appreciate your help.
> >I have been meditating for about a year, at least half an hour to an
> >hour every day and as yet I have no light inside and no visulization
> >ability. I can get light briefly after candle gazing, but essentially
> >all I have internally is black. However I have beautiful feelings
> >descend on me and every time I think of God (A lot of the time) my
> >scalp has an intense itching feeling almost like sunburn. I also
> >somtimes get what sounds like the dawn chorus ( birds singing )
> >inside my left ear,
> >allways some body sway. Can any one identify with the lack of light
> >and tell me how they overcame this. The Guru I visited in India
> >touched my forhread assured me that Kundalini is rising and that in
> >time the light will appear but I am a little impatient.
> >Love Chris
> >Sai Ram
>
Hello Chris,
I agree with whatever Ashanka Sen is saying below.Rather I was
surprised how can you with such a little effort be able
to experience such advanced stage.
>
> What you are experiencing may take decades of severe austerities
> by yogis in the Himalayan mountains. So probably you have already
> done a lot of meditation in some past birth and are hence experiencing
> a lot of these feelings within a year's meditation of an hour a day.....
>
> Keep at it, but DO NOT get impatient. This itself could be acting
> as a barrier to further experiences.
>
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 10:03:58 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
Cc: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>, lobsterATnospamclara.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Choosing Life with Angelique- Serious Humor
Message-Id: <970311100358.n0000506.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>
on 10 Mar 98, lodpressATnospamintercomm.com wrote...
>If you really want to look into what Ed has brought up by sharing here
>is that he has been shown from within what supressed emotions do, this
>didn't happen over night, it had to have been building for some time
>most likely over years.
Exactly so. People find it strange when I am happy to be in the wrong. Or rather
to have my faults pointed out. That is how I learn, or how potentially I can
learn. In a similar way it is how I react to things that allows potentially for
transformation.
> It wasn't about one or two conversations with this person or that, it
>is about deep feelings and emotions being held inside. Some people like
>my husband has something happen and he immediatly reacts, he throws out
>a huge emotional charge and it is over. This happens a lot on the
>highway, it always amazes me, but he doesn't hold it it.
>
> It isn't always fun to be around that, but he never holds feelings
>inside. This is not the norm, most people try not to show what they feel
>and hold it in. When this happens over a long period of time it shows up
>in an organ, Ed told us that the liver is the organ that takes the hit
>from the emotions. I knew this from working with my dear friend Barbara,
>by the time she learned how to deal with her emotions the damage had
>been done. In Ed's case it has not, he has already become aware and is
>in releasing and healing and coming forward to share his experience. I'm
>sure what he needs from us is not to be in conflict but to be supportive
>of his experience and perhaps bring everyone a little closer and a tiny
>bit more aware of how we can monitor how we speak to each other.
This may seem stange (surely not) but of course the mind effects the body and
vice versa. So I am quite happy to release and heal. The point is people are
supportive and we each gain from the process of interaction at whatever level.
For instance Gloria has a tendency to try and create a feeling of wholeness and
well being as soon as possible. The negative aspect of this is stagnation. I
quite often introduce elements of turmoil that though transformative are not
always easy - it too has a dual edge. Angelique makes me laugh with her hand
kissing slaves. Other people get angry or defensive or try and talk about
kundalini or spirituality (which I personally feel is an outrageous liberty) and
so on and on.
And people change and people grow - if they so choose.
Gloria:
>Instead of reacting to this in a negative way, we can all reflect and
>witness ourselves and see how we deal with emotion. I can tell you that
>those who will detach and witness will learn a lot about what is going
>on besides the obvious.
Best Wishes
Lobster
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