1998/03/10 15:45
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #178
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 178
Today's Topics: RE light within [ Chris Hughes ]
Re: Light within [ "Debora A. Orf" ] poor planning/painful humor [ freda ]
Re: Light within [ Chris Hughes ] Re: Choosing Life [ Gloria Greco ]
Re: Choosing Life with Angelique- Se [ Antoine ] Re: Choosing Life [ freda ]
[Fwd: healing energy] [ celesteATnospamridgecrest.ca.us ] Re: Choosing Life with Angelique- Se [ Gloria Greco ]
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:32:16 GMT From: Chris Hughes
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: RE light within
Message-ID:
Dear Souls I would like to thank every single one of you who took the time
to respond to my request for help. You have given me a lot to think on, your love, and encouragment.
love Chris Sai Ram
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:35:51 EST From: UweJohann
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: healing energy
Message-ID:
Hello anurag,
thanks for reply, you asked;
<>>
I will try it and i hope my LexiRom gives me the right words. I will use the public adress, hoping to find some more, who have experienced Master Dang and
the spiritual human yoga. Last year, I learned a healing method, that uses the Chakras 2-7. For this,
the teacher places his hands on the chakras 7, 6, next day 5, 4, next day 3, 2, always only for some seconds, except Chakra 1. Than your Chakras where re-
activated up to 30 %. Then the next 3 days the Chakras where re-acticated up to 60 %. This method was used until last year for not advanced teachers.
Advanced teachers re-activate Chakras now collective, without touching any Chakra, they use Chakra 6 to heal and to re-activate always on distance.
To sustain the activation one must meditate daily only 5 minutes, thats enough. Now one is able to heal up to 20 persons a day.
To complete re-activate the Chakras to 100 %, as they say it, today only Master Dang is able to do it. And I experienced this mass-activation last
march in Holland. Master Dang activated over 1000 People in a great hall, in less than 30 sec. He sat down on the flow, we touched our own Chakra 7 and 6,
he closed his eys, 15 or 20 seconds later it's finished. After that you are able to give unlimited number of persons healing energy
only by lay on your hands, on the Chakra or onto the place of the sick organ, to heal. The treatment for one Person needs max. 5 minutes per day.
This is called 'Spiritual Human Yoga' founded by Master Dang. To make no connection to any religion, they dont call the energy chi, prana,
or holy spirit, only 'universal energy'. For each re-activation you have to pay but it's not allowed to take money for
energy-treatment, it must be free, without any expectations. And now some advanced healers build a web-site, where you found some more
informations. They want to offer thier service for free distance healing energy.
I found this address by a routine search, and it was not easy, they dont make it verry public. It's said, that there has to be no advertising, one has to
talk only to family or friends, so I do it now, my friends... I know that there are some people with different illnesses. If you want to
look at this web-sites: http://www.freehealing.com/main.html
Love (healing energy in the purest form) to you all
Uwe Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:55:52 -0600 (CST)
From: "Debora A. Orf" To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Light within Message-ID:
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In a message dated 98-03-09 09:06:24 EST, aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co.uk writes:
< The Guru I visited in India touched my forhread assured me that Kundalini is rising and that in
time the light will appear but I am a little impatient. Love Chris
Sai Ram >>
What is the significance of this gesture? i know that Lamas do this too, when they greet you. This is very interesting that Indian gurus do this
too.
Maybe its a guru thing....
my guess is that its a sort of blessing gesture.
Curious...
--janpa Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:10:56 -0500
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unsuscribe Please remove me from your list
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"Debora A. Orf" on 03/10/98 09:55:52 AM
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
cc: (bcc: Ajay Mathews) Subject: Re: Light within
In a message dated 98-03-09 09:06:24 EST, aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co.uk writes: < The Guru I visited in India
touched my forhread assured me that Kundalini is rising and that in time the light will appear but I am a little impatient.
Love Chris Sai Ram >>
What is the significance of this gesture? i know that Lamas do this too, when they greet you. This is very interesting that Indian gurus do this
too. Maybe its a guru thing....
my guess is that its a sort of blessing gesture. Curious...
--janpa Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:21:28 GMT
From: Arsinoe Sig To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: KY in France?? address?? Message-ID:
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I wish to get the address of Ky in france,
i live in paris and i hope to exchange with ky practicers living in paris.
thanks.
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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:59:55 -0800 From: freda
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: poor planning/painful humor
Message-ID:
this is not K related, I hope.... so you may want to disreguard it, I found this while I was copying old files from my ancient commador 64
disks. It still makes me laugh, boy, this sure puts my measly hard luck into perspective!
The following letter, taken from a Department of Transportation
publication, is an example of poor planning:
Dear Sir: I am writting in response to your request for additional information. In
Block #3 of the accident report form, I put "Poor Planning" as the cause of my accident. You said in your letter that I should explain in detail,
I trust that the following information will be sufficient.
I am a bricklayer by trade. On the day of the accident, I was working alone on the roof of a new six-story building. When I completed my work,
I discovered that I had about 500 lbs. of bricks left over. Rather than carry them down by hand, I decided to lower them in a barrel by using a
pulley which was attached to the side of the building at the sixth floor.
Securing the rope at ground level, I went to the roof, swung the barrel
out and loaded the bricks into it. I then went back to the ground and untied the rope, holding it tightly to insure a slow decent of the 500
lbs of bricks. You will note in block #11 of the accident reporting form, that I weight 145 lbs.
Due to my surprise at being jerked off the ground so suddenly, I lost my
presence of mind and forgot to let go of the rope. Needless to say, I proceeded up the side of the building at a rather rapid rate.
In the vicinity of the third floor, I met the barrel coming down. This accounts for the fractured skull and broken collarbone.
Slowed only slightly, I continued my rapid assent, not stopping until
the fingers of my right hand were two knuckles deep into the pulley. Fortunately, by this time I had regained my presence of mind and was
able to hold tightly to the rope in spite of my pain.
At approximately the same time, however, the barrel of bricks hit the ground and the bottom fell out of the barrel. Devoid of the weight of
the bricks, the barrel now weighed about 50 lbs. I refer again to my weight as indicated in Block #11, As you might imagine, I began a rapid
decent down the side of the building. In the vicinity of the third floor, I met the barrel comming up. This
accounts for the two fractured ankles and the deep lacerations on my legs and lower body.
The second encounter with the barrel slowed me enough to lessen my
injuries when I fell into the pile of bricks and, fortunately, only three vertabra were cracked.
I am sorry to report, however, that as I lay there in the pile of
bricks, in pain, unable to stand, and watching the empty barrel six stories above me, I lost my presence of mind.......
Have a SAFE day,
freda Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:48:00 GMT
From: Chris Hughes To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Light within Message-ID:
The message
from "Debora A. Orf" contains these words:
> In a message dated 98-03-09 09:06:24 EST, aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co.uk writes:
> < The Guru I visited in India
> touched my forhread assured me that Kundalini is rising and that in > time the light will appear but I am a little impatient.
> Love Chris > Sai Ram >>
> What is the significance of this gesture? i know that Lamas do this too,
> when they greet you. This is very interesting that Indian gurus do this > too.
> Maybe its a guru thing....
> my guess is that its a sort of blessing gesture.
> Curious...
> --janpa
Dear Soul
The touching of the forehead by a God Realised Guru is intended to awaken Kundalini and if She is awake to ensure that She is moving up
safely on the correct channel. Guruji also then touched me on the crown of the head
and this is to ensure steady progress rather than a sudden burst of energy which could be dangerous in some cases.
Love Chris Sai Ram
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:55:37 +0100 From: Gloria Greco
To: E Jason CC: kundalini
Subject: Re: Choosing Life Message-ID:
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E Jason wrote:
> > on 09 Mar 98, lodpressATnospamintercomm.com wrote...
> > >You heard me talk about Barbara, she told me she could feel this tight
> >knot in her liver for many years before it manifested as Cancer. She > >said she always had this up tight feeling in her emotions and she also
> >knew that at certain times when she suppressed and went along with > >things she knew were not right for her...it became much worse. So when
> >we did the work of looking into her records it was very clear how the > >cause and effect worked to manifest the results. What was wonderful is
> >that she totally saw it and knew exactly what she had to take from it. > >This is the kind of stuff that is profound soul experience. Gloria
> > I am aware of were the problem is and from where it stems. The process of
> unravelling will take time. >
> Ed
Have you supressed emotions, or did this happen in the things that happened with Mystress over the net? Gloria
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/ &
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/ Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:10:08 -0800 From: freda
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com CC: kundalini
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> > > I am aware of were the problem is and from where it stems. The process of > > > unravelling will take time.
> > > > > > Ed
> > > > Have you supressed emotions, or did this happen in the things that
> > happened with Mystress over the net? Gloria >
> my god! gloria, are you serious?
email from Klist, specificly from Angelique? if your serious, maybe you need help!
if your only joking, maybe you ought to say so. freda
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:29:30 +0100 From: Gloria Greco
To: fredaATnospamblarg.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Choosing Life
Message-ID:
Gloria Greco wrote: >
> freda wrote: > >
> > > > > > > I am aware of were the problem is and from where it stems. The process of
> > > > > unravelling will take time. > > > > >
> > > > > Ed > > > >
> > > > Have you supressed emotions, or did this happen in the things that > > > > happened with Mystress over the net? Gloria
> > > > > >
> > my god! gloria, are you serious? > > email from Klist, specificly from Angelique?
> > if your serious, maybe you need help! > > if your only joking, maybe you ought to say so.
> > freda >
> Freda, > There have been some discussions from time to time that can cause
> problems if one isn't detached. You observed this conversations going > on, and any party in this can get damaged if there isn't also a very
> strong capacity to let go. Mystess can have the same kind of thing > happening if she doesn't release, Ed and Mystress had a very intense conversation for some time. She does seem to have the ability to
> get out of its way. It isn't about right or wrong it is about learning > to really let it roll off like water. Nobody is purposely slamming the
> other but it does happen when emotions and thoughts get together. For this reason, everyone needs to learn to witness themself and also to
have tolerance and compassion for the other view. This is an excellent list for this very reason, but we must also take responsibility when one
of our list people has difficulties because this can contribute to it for sure. Thoughts are things...
> > --
> > Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
> Gloria Joy Greco > e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
> http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/ > &
> http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/ > Hope you enjoy them!
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/ &
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/ Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:53:28 EST From: Harsha1MTM
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com, lobsterATnospamclara.net Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Choosing Life with Angelique- Serious Humor Message-ID:
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In a message dated 98-03-10 14:01:48 EST, lodpressATnospamintercomm.com writes:
< Have you supressed emotions, or did this happen in the things that
happened with Mystress over the net? Gloria >>
Harsha writes: I do not understand this. Perhaps what Gloria is speaking about happened before I joined the list. I am sure Angelique's e-mail messages have
not caused anyone to be ill or to have stomach cramps or anything. Angelique tell us it just is not so! (By the way anyone know how dieter is doing?).
Harsha continues (while trying to control his expanding smile): I also wish to say that all my e-mail jokes are perfectly innocent and are not meant to cause
even an iota of sadness or even minor things like a headache or something. Also I would like to state that no matter what I say on this list, I remain an
exceedingly pleasant person and there are many who can testify to that.....I believe many can testify on behalf of Angelique as well.
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:09:29 -0500 From: Antoine
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Choosing Life with Angelique- Serious Humor
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Harsha1MTM wrote:
> In a message dated 98-03-10 14:01:48 EST, lodpressATnospamintercomm.com writes: >
> < Have you supressed emotions, or did this happen in the things that > happened with Mystress over the net? Gloria
> >> > Harsha writes: I do not understand this. Perhaps what Gloria is speaking about
> happened before I joined the list. I am sure Angelique's e-mail messages have > not caused anyone to be ill or to have stomach cramps or anything. Angelique
> tell us it just is not so! (By the way anyone know how dieter is doing?). > Harsha continues (while trying to control his expanding smile): I also wish to
> say that all my e-mail jokes are perfectly innocent and are not meant to cause > even an iota of sadness or even minor things like a headache or something.
> Also I would like to state that no matter what I say on this list, I remain an > exceedingly pleasant person and there are many who can testify to that.....I
> believe many can testify on behalf of Angelique as well.
Angelique is an Angel :-)
How much of an Angel one is prepared to see at once is another question...
But i don't understand also, Harsha, the reference Gloria is making.
In deep Peace and Love,
Antoine
-- "A new world is born in every moment. The question is, are we present to
this magnificent birth?" Marcus S. Robinson
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:22:27 -0800 From: freda
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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Well Gloria,
It is a long shot, don't you think [that mistress] is causing lobster to be ill? Come on....
Lobster gave as good as he got, I remember the posts. Neither seemed to be sending no voodoo,
Get real. It was discusion, If words exchanged between emails could cause such drastic illness then
many of us would be dropping like flies! If Lobster took it hard enough to do that kind of damage to himself then
surely he, or anyone else who internalizes so intently should not be interacting on the list......
IMHO it is way nuts to single out - as you DID - anyone as causing such a thing.
shame! and I don't use the term lightly, inconsiderate, demeaning and just
plain nasty to send such a thing to the list, shame, shame, shame!!!
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:36:32 -0800 From: celesteATnospamridgecrest.ca.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com Subject: [Fwd: healing energy]
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celesteATnospamridgecrest.ca.us wrote:
> -hey.....how come that web site lists homosexuality among its ailments
> > list
> hmmm?? > not cool. not an ailment either.
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From: celesteATnospamridgecrest.ca.us Reply-To: celesteATnospamridgecrest.ca.us
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-hey.....how come that web site lists homosexuality among its ailments
list hmmm??
not cool. not an ailment either.
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:48:04 +0100 From: Gloria Greco
To: Harsha1MTM CC: lobsterATnospamclara.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Choosing Life with Angelique- Serious Humor Message-ID:
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Harsha1MTM wrote:
> > In a message dated 98-03-10 14:01:48 EST, lodpressATnospamintercomm.com writes:
Gloria here again:
Certainly, things are said in our day to day conversations that are just perfect in every respect...no right or wrong, it just is. The thing is
that the kind of time we spend on the net together as a group, is actually developing relationships, and I think we all agree a great deal
of the lessons of life come through relationships at every level.
I know some people on the list use this almost entirely for their relationships because I have talked to some of you about this. Thus
lessons come from it. When this becomes the main exchange in life, not just for human contact...but spiritual matters as well, we then see how
important a part we are playing for each other.
Spirit uses this time for the teachings spiritually to come through, sometimes that involves making a wave in the energy. These waves come
about when thoughts and emotions go together to create, and everyone who gets into a little slam situation where there is disagreement in any
form, has to have some spiritual tools working to not get bashed by the energy...he/she has to be able to let go and allow the wave to wash away
in total. If anything is held on to it will settle into the body.
Even in relationships within our family, when an emotional charge is released, you know it instantly...and do what is required to work
through it since it is normal activity. In our conversations here, we write them...which gives them more power, and then we send them
out...waiting for a responce to return. So, it is not an instant thing here but involves working with it on another level.
Then in the next days mail, in reading the posts you are just wide open,
and if a post comes in at this stage of openess, and it has one of these power jabs with it, it can send the person spinning for a while, if it
is not left go of, it can be supressed and then turn up in the body. Ed and Mystress had quite a long conversation going for a period of time a
few months ago, it finally burned its way out. But in this, both parties and anyone else reading it has to be very detached. When someone writes
something like that to me, I normally don't even answer it anymore because it is going to keep it going and it is easier to just let it die
on its own. Nobody wants to hurt the other, it is relationships building, and there has to be somekind of commitment to stay in a
relationship if people are not all exactly alike.
Harsha, you use humor, and it is wonderful. So does Ed, but sometimes people don't understand the humor, and it can be taken wrong. Sometimes
people react to what I say as well, this is all a part of the communication process isn't it? But, once in a while something powerful
gets focused on and this can come across with strong feelings and energies attached to it.
There is nothing bad or wrong about this, it is simply working as one
human to another, and I feel it is very good, because it is real..and it is about one human participating in anothers life. If we can work out
things here with people who are very different from each other, and we find a way to find peace and compassion, it has to have some very good
effects in the same dynamic going on with other people of the world. Am I communicating this with any clarity??? Its your turn.
>
> < Have you supressed emotions, or did this happen in the things that > happened with Mystress over the net? Gloria
> >> > Harsha writes: I do not understand this. Perhaps what Gloria is speaking about
> happened before I joined the list. I am sure Angelique's e-mail messages have > not caused anyone to be ill or to have stomach cramps or anything. Angelique
> tell us it just is not so! (By the way anyone know how dieter is doing?). > Harsha continues (while trying to control his expanding smile): I also wish to
> say that all my e-mail jokes are perfectly innocent and are not meant to cause > even an iota of sadness or even minor things like a headache or something.
> Also I would like to state that no matter what I say on this list, I remain an > exceedingly pleasant person and there are many who can testify to that.....I
> believe many can testify on behalf of Angelique as well.
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher. Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at: http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
& http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them! Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:59:36 -0800
From: "Dave Hourigan" To:
Subject: kundalini chaos? Message-ID:
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I just joined this group a couple of days ago, and I have been trying to decipher and make sense out of all these mixed emotional energies. I have read a couple of wonderful experiences relating to the topic of spiritual experiences by a few of you, but I sense fear and confusion from those who are pointing fingers at the cause of someone's illness. For awhile there, I thought this was an evolved group of souls. Gossip and judgement are not productive on ANY path. So, Could those out there that have anything enlightening to share, do so? Kundalini energy has no preference. It can be applied in a negative way or, hopefully in this group, in a very Loving way.
Remember, Love will transmute all fear. Unless emphasis is placed on fear, it simply cannot manifest.
In Light & Love to All,
Dave
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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:02:41 +0100 From: Gloria Greco
To: Harsha1MTM CC: lobsterATnospamclara.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Choosing Life with Angelique- Serious Humor Message-ID:
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I think it is important for all people on the list to agree whatever is
said...not to take it personally, no matter what. Gloria Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:14:48 -0800
From: freda To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
CC: Harsha1MTM , lobsterATnospamclara.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Choosing Life with Angelique- Serious Humor
Message-ID:
> Ed > and Mystress had quite a long conversation going for a period of time a
> few months ago, it finally burned its way out. so, good ol' heart centered Gloria.......opens it up again
with WHAT? Angelique is killing lobster.
very cleaver Gloria is it just mistress and lobster you wish to drag into this?
I think not, you did not ask lobster in priviate email -hey lobster, is angelique
killing you? [or is Gloria :)hheheheh] As I recall, there were, as you say, a few others at the time who had a
tough time letting their discussion get "pickey" are you trying to start something?
more hits to your site for tapes possibly?
Oh gee, seems this isn't rolling off my back so sweetly.
some nasty-ness just don't roll so good. Babble the hell out of this one gloria, I am not buying it
your "heart" has gotten a wee bit off center hun. And your lack of ballanceis comming through loud and clear.
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