1998/03/03 14:09
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #166
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 166
Today's Topics:
Re: brown ceramic heart [ tgxxxATnospamjuno.com (tg langston) ]
Candida Albicans & Kundalini [ "John Heinen" <jtheinenATnospamhotmail.com ]
RE: HRTZEN: brown ceramic heart [ Vandyke T SSgt 355MSS/DPMPE <vandyk ]
unsubscribe [ Arsinoe Sig <arsinoeATnospamcaramail.com> ]
Kundalini-P list? [ "Gwenneth S." <gsmtheATnospamyahoo.com> ]
Re: Kundalini-P list? [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net ]
Re: Kundalini-P list? [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
Re: HRTZEN: background noise [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: HRTZEN: background noise [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: Enlightenment? [ Jerry Katz <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca> ]
Choices [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: HRTZEN: background noise [ Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.te ]
Re: HRTZEN: background noise [ Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.te ]
Re: HRTZEN: background noise [ rtrevATnospamredsuspenders.com (Bob Trevit ]
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:46:42 -0500
From: tgxxxATnospamjuno.com (tg langston)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: brown ceramic heart
Message-ID: <19980303.104643.15990.1.tgxxxATnospamjuno.com>
>>Anandajyoti> Many a time relationships emerge on our life scene ,
>which>after a whilebreak apart. From my own experience, on meeting the
>person, it>was sort of Shields I strongly felt. Then when asked I was
told , that >all>of the past communications were based fantasy, not
based on truth.
As someone who was on the other side of a broken relationship where our
communications WERE based on fantasy and not truth, I have to speak up.
It is very difficult to distinguish between the two when you are in the
middle of it all. Or at least it was for me.
>But I had involved myself in it truthfully from my heart . It is still
>an>enigma to me how people carry on based on fantasies continuously for
>months>or more, then suddenly you become a stranger.
If it is truly a fantasy, then suddenly upon meeting, you would be a
stranger.
< I sometimes ponder : was >it>just a smoke screen to end the
relationship.
In my case, no it wasn't.
>Frontal communication is >a lot>better than having hidden agendas, and
striking at an opportune >moment.
I totally agree. Again, you may be seeing hidden agendas, but as I see
it from the other person's point of view, there were no hidden agendas.
>I also had to undergo a lot of pain and hurt, but through centering
>myself,>I let go of the whole experience and am out of the hurt and
pain.,
>very>recently.
I am truly sorry you had to go thru pain and hurt with this relationship,
and I am glad you finally transcended it.
>We cannot blame such people for their perspective or behavior, the
>only>thing we can do is to forgive them and forget,
I have a difficult time understanding why you think they need to be
forgiven. The person was honest with you. She did the best she could
for what she knew at the time. She didn't do anything wrong. She merely
misinterpreted truth for fantasy.
>Such experiences also >teach>us a lot what to look for in similar
situations, if they ever arise.
I agree totally here.
>Anandajyoti> Do not be depressed over it , I know how traumatizing it
>is.
Was it traumatizing because of your expectations? Because of promises
made that were not kept? Because of living in the future and not in the
moment? I realize that we are only human and it is very difficult not to
have expectations and to not believe promises made that are based on
future happenings. But that is no reason to blame your expectations and
living in the future on the other person and thinking they are the one
that needs forgiven. There is nothing to forgive on either party. Both
of you did the best you could do at the time for what you knew.
>The entrapment was the experience, which is gone in the past . Have
>the hope>that Universe will give you the strength again to stand up firm
and
>strong ,>in your quest and venture.
The entrapment is your own making. And yes it is gone in the past. The
only thing left is acceptance of the other person, yourself, and the
situation. We do not realize the big picture and the reasoning behind
the moment. Luckily, on this spiritual path, we are given a choice of
whether to be in peace or not with any given situation. The peace can be
given in a moment if it is truly what you want and it is asked for. To
be willing to look at this differently and allow peace and acceptance of
all that is to come into being.
>Anandajyoti> Just as the relationship broke apart and gave you pain
>and>trauma, so will feelings you are having of yourself at this juncture
>would>also pass away.
This is true. Because of my experience being the one who gave pain, I
was given another experience recently to see the other side. I observed
the pain I received and saw it was feelings of rejection. I looked at
these feelings, realizing they were based on my own expectations. Love
is blind, so they say. But seeing it from a clearer perspective, I see
there are many things we choose not to listen to while 'being in love'.
We choose not to listen to ourSelf. That is not the other person's
problem. It is my own lesson to learn. When I gave pain to another, I
did not do it willingly or cunningly to hurt them. Again, I didn't
listen to mySelf. I chose to listen to the other person and believe
them. This was true in both cases. And this is not to say to go into
relationships being less trustful, but to go into relationships more
trustful -- the only difference would be to not only trust the other
person, but to trust yourSelf first and formost.
Did the relationship teach you to be more loving, more trustful, more
softer? Or did it teach you to be less loving, less trustful, harder?
If the latter is true, then we must search deeper and deeper within
ourSelves to find our Spirit that is pure love and acceptance. Did you
not love deeply and with complete love and faith in this relationship?
This is a wonderful thing to realize that we have this in us to be able
to love as deeply and faithfully as we did. This is a good thing. Not
something to suppress with the next person that comes along.
And if we make a mistake again, it is so good to know that we have a
place within us to turn to, to allow peace and acceptance to come to us
once again, knowing that everything is in perfect and divine order, and
allowing us to see that we nor they did anything wrong. We are here to
find that place, that Spirit who we truly are. To listen to Its wisdom.
We are not here to learn lessons to make us harder and more bitter and
watchful for the next experience, as much as we are here to chip away
our external to find our our Voice that is always talking to us, and to
know that we have a place internally to rest upon in complete peace and
acceptance of all that is.
<<In>situations like this we sometimes feel helpless. Its only the
memories
>hurting you in the moment. Give them over to Universe, and you would
>find>within ten days, your miserable condition will shatter into pieces
and
>you>will strengthened for you next ventures and quest. >Give it some
time. It took me about a couple of months to get over my>trauma.>
The 10 days can be turned into a moment - no need to wait. Peace is
available to anyone each and every moment if you are willing to look at
the situation differently. When I am out of peace, it is my
responsibility to see it differently. I can choose to prolong it and
grieve accordingly or choose peace. "I can see peace instead of this" is
a powerful thing to say and shows your own willingness. Again, I have to
say how wonderful it is to know there is a place within me that I now
have a choice to see peace instead of turmoil. I spent a whole lifetime
not knowing this until the last few years.
>.I thank those who have hurt and given the >opportunity>to strengthen
myself and truly understand the real nature of human>relationships.
Love , faith , trust, openness are mere words, which >become>useless if
not truly practiced , whether inwardly or outwardly. >Whether
in>relationship to ourselves or with others. I did not want to have
a>relationship on fantasy, but the situation has truly made known to me
>what>troubles and trauma relationships , if started from any side based
on>fantasy., can provide.
You say the other party was based on fantasy. What about your own
fantasies you had? I'm not trying to make light of what you believe was
real to you but not to her because you were the one traumatized. Just
because you were the one with pain doesn't mean your feelings were real
and hers were not. If the love was based on how the other person should
act and be and not in full and total acceptance of what is, this isn't
love. It feels like love and the ego makes us believe it is love, but it
isn't.
>What I had failed in my situation, was to >believe>wholly what I heard
and felt as a response. My experience has shown me >the>way, of what is
real and what is unreal in human relationships.
Was what you heard based on promises of the future? If it was, then it
couldn't be real. We have human feelings so of course our responses to
what is said to us will be recognized. That doesn't make them true. So
how do we distinguish between the real and unreal? Hell if I know. I
can ask myself questions such as, am I responding to the now or feelings
based on future promises? If I felt feelings of love in the now, then
who is to say that is not real? Love is real. Are there any
expectations, any feelings of what the future holds because of this love
I am feeling, attached to the love? If so, that is not real. Have I
placed a commitment to this relationship with the understanding that
commitment is that I will have you forever, and not the commitment to the
moment?
> On missing the person you >loved,>I can only truly empathize with you,
I did that too for a long time >for the>person whom I strongly felt to be
kindred.. Truly spiritual people >become>very sensitive to the pain they
themselves feel and also for the pain >others>feel. The finer you become,
the more intense becomes the suffering and >the>pain also, physically and
emotionally. I am sharing this from own>experience.
To empathize doesn't mean to join in suffering. That is the ego's
definition of empathy. To say that truly spiritual people become very
sensitive to the pain of others is unclear to me and seems to make a
space that somehow those that are not so sensitive to the pain of others
and themselves makes them less spiritual. Is this what you are saying?
I would think, and of course from my own unlimited limited thinking, that
the finer you become, the more accepting you would be of yourSelf, others
and the situations at hand. And this acceptance would bring about peace,
instead of suffering.
Suffering is a choice based on fear. When faced with any form of fear,
we should ask for help in healing any separation we may feel between
ourselves and God, or ourselves and others. We need to remember that
fear is a choice, not something that is thrust upon us. Fear is merely
the absence of love and a denial of who we are, a denial that love is all
around us and acting as if we are alone.
In love and light,
xxxtg
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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 08:36:33 PST
From: "John Heinen" <jtheinenATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Candida Albicans & Kundalini
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I am also very interested in the connections between medical
symptomology and kundalini manifestations. Cara and Jack: Thank you
for bringing this up. The Candida connection has far reaching
implications for social level (mass individual kundalini collectives)
energy interactions as well individual level prana/apana functioning.
Anyone who knows more about this would be much appreciated for sharing
information.
Good tidings,
JTH
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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:40:00 -0700
From: Vandyke T SSgt 355MSS/DPMPE <vandykeATnospammss355.dm.af.mil>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, valeriec <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
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Subject: RE: HRTZEN: brown ceramic heart
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Dear Val
Here's a little poem I enjoy when I'm feeling down. It's called
DESIDERATA.
Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there
may be in silence. as far as possible without surrender, be on good
terms with all persons. speak your truth quietly and clearly; and
listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they, too, have their
story
Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the
spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain and
bitter; for always there will be greater and lesser persons that
yourself. Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real
possession in the changing fortunes of time. Exercise caution in your
business affairs; for the world is full of trickery. But let this not
blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals;
and everywhere life is full of heroism.
Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection. neither be
cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment
it is perennial as the grass.
Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the
things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden
misfortune. But do not distress yourself with imaginings. Many fears
are born of fatigue and loneliness.
Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a
child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a
right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the
universe is unfolding as it should.
Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, an
whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life
keep peace with your soul.
With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful
world. Be careful. Strive to be happy.
Max Ehrmann - American poet and dramatist (1872-1945)
Hope you enjoyed it. Love and Light Trent.
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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:55:26 -0800 (PST)
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Hi,
Does anyone know the address for the kundalini-p list?
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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 19:10:31 GMT
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Hi,
Does anyone know the address for the kundalini-p list?
Thanks,
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I subscribed but it won't let me post. And there haven't been any
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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:16:30 -0500
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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 11:28:53 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
CC: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: background noise
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One more question to rile you...if you are in your interior processing
with spirit, why are you so much in control. Control of your time,
thinking, wanting, etc. This doesn't go along with the qualities of
meditation and self realization? Gloria
Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 11:27:09 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
CC: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: background noise
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Danijel Turina wrote:
>
> Hi Gloria! :9
>
> At 19:43 1998.03.02 +0100, Gloria Greco wrote:
> >Danijel Turina wrote:
> >>
> >> At 12:51 1998.03.02 +0100, Gloria Greco wrote:
> >> >Why don't you do your meditation when you are alone and can be in that
> >> >pure place of frequency? That is when you have total quiet and can do
> >> >the kind of work you are directed to do. 3 Am is an excellent time for
> >> >this process. Gloria
> >>
> >> Yes, it would be great if it could be worked out Gloria. Unfortunately,
> >> things are far from ideal here - for instance, in the last four days I
> >> slept probably ten hours, I simply have no time, physically. And it is all
> >> building up on me, you saw how snappy some of my messages here were. My
> >> fuse is getting a bit short. :)) Anyway, in the middle of all this - it is
> >> better not to count - I actually did manage to make some pretty nice
> >> improvement on my crown nadis, so my sight of the inner space is less
> >> clouded now.
> >
> >GG
> >Give me a better picture of this, are you living with a group of people
> >and working besides? Or is it still the heavy duty hardness that is
> >still from the war situation? Do you have food and the things you need?
> >And a place to live, heat and a warm bed? I'm sorry if we are not very
> >well educated in terms of what is happening in your country, do you have
> >access to your survival needs without any extra's at all?
>
> :))))))) ROTFLMTO :)))))))))))
> No Gloria, you got it all wrong - life standard here is mostly like where
> you live, it is just that I live with my parrents any my brother, it is a
> small appartment (70 m^2) and I am busy around the clock, that's all. :)
> Let me ilustrate the starvation point:
>
> P133, 64 MB RAM, 3.25 GB + 3.6 GB IBM HDD, Matrox MGA 2 MB, Philips
> Brilliance 17", ZIP drive, Microtek ScanMaker E6, HP DeskJet 870 CXi, HP
> LaserJet II, 33.6 GVC ext...
>
> :))) Now, if anyone here ain't got money for food, it ain't me.
GG
Thank you, now I understand, so the time thing is that you are working
all of the time.
:)))))
> ROTFL :))))) My maniacs were rolling on the floor laughing when you first
> mentioned that. :)) Starving people on internet, give me a break!
GG
Yes, I thought that was pretty odd myself but you sounded like you were
desperate. And, living in terrible conditions.
> :)))))))))) It is just that this equipment here ain't just picking up dust,
> I'm squeezing the life out of it. :)) The CPU/mboard got a bit narrow, I
> will probably expand to K6-200 or P233MMX soon. So if you knew my
> timetable, you would know why I'm screaming here. :))))))
>
> >GG
> >Ok you live at home, and it is so difficult that everyone is in distress
> >and things are very very hard. Am I getting closer to the situation now?
>
> Nope. :)
>
> >Lets just say harmony is not something that happens very often... Where
> >do you have access to the computer? Is this at home then where you work?
> >I would think this is a luxury in your country, were you well off before
> >the war? Or at least in a better place in terms of your finances?
>
> :)))))))) ROTFL :)))))))) Actually the kind of equipment I am using ain't
> that common anywhere, but it is not quite uncommon here. :)
GG
Ok, now I'm seeing things quite different.
>
> >I think we can all send you a lot of love and light, and compassion. God
>
> Come on! :))))))))))) ROTFL :))))))))))))
GG
You don't want love and compassion...
>
> > I will personally wrap you up on my spiritual altar and give you the
> >love and consideration that your soul/spirit needs, you will make it. I
>
> Thanks, but I wouldn't suggest you get too close to the energy level I'm
> channeling right now, not quite safe. :)
GG
I felt it and it is quite rigid and unfriendly but that is ok.
>
> >have to tell you...you are extremely intelligent, when you write and
> >share, your english is really incredible. Where did you learn this? I
>
> :))) Actually Susan asked me this on ICQ; my Dad bought some English
> learning tapes when I was 6, I used to listen to them for hours. Later,
> when I learned English in school, everything was just natural - I jush had
> to switch to it the first couple of days here and now I speak it as well as
> I do Croatian. :)
GG
Amazing, it is very good.
>
> >would say you are a writer deep down in your heart, and someday you will
> >be doing a great work for God. Meanwhile, get yourself into that
> >spiritual connection in the heart, and somehow things will improve. God
> >Bless You, and speaking for all of us...we do love and care for you.
Gg I hope that was a loving responce...but I accept it that way anyway.
>
> Gloria, :** :))))
>
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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 16:25:50 -0800
From: Jerry Katz <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca>
To: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Enlightenment?
Message-ID: <34FC9F8E.19B0ATnospamns.sympatico.ca>
Harsha wrote:
> Where is the Dilemma? Does the Sage not say "Wake Up!"
Harsha,
A dilemma is a situation that requires one to choose between two equally
balanced alternatives. The Sage feels neither alive nor dead. But He
makes a conscious choice to live for awhile in the world. He could make
a conscious choice to leave. I'm not saying the Sage is in a
predicament, is suffering, frustrated or calling Dr. Laura about this.
To the Sage, it doesn't matter what choice He makes. But there are two
equally balanced alternatives and He does choose one. There is evidence
in spiritual autobiographies to support this. So don't bother me anymore
(just kidding!).
Don't you feel as though you are neither dear nor alive? Does it matter
to you whether you are dead or alive? Aren't life and death consumed by
the Absolute? When you eat, aren't you making a choice to live? When you
make a choice between two equally balanced alternatives, aren't you in a
dilemma? I'm not saying it's a negative thing, that you're suffering or
anything. I know my logic isn't as sharp as some, so if there are any
logic students lurking out there, jump in.
Write soon,
Jerry
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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:42:30 EST
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Choices
Message-ID: <d6adcda2.34fc6b3aATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-03-03 15:11:27 EST, umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca writes:
Jerry: A dilemma is a situation that requires one to choose between two
equally
balanced alternatives.
Harsha: Who do you refer to when you speak of the Self-Realized or the God-
Realized Sage? Who makes the choice?
Jerry: The Sage feels neither alive nor dead.
Harsha: Jerry, you are a romantic! You are in love with something you do not
grasp. The Sage is Fully Conscious. The Current of Self-Awareness is Ever-
Living.
Jerry: But He makes a conscious choice to live for awhile in the world.
Harsha: Who! Are you speaking of the body?
Jerry: He could make a conscious choice to leave.
Harsha: Who! Who are you referring to.
Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 21:46:10 +0100
From: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
To: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: background noise
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Hi Gloria! :)
At 11:28 1998.03.03 +0100, Gloria Greco wrote:
>One more question to rile you...if you are in your interior processing
>with spirit, why are you so much in control. Control of your time,
>thinking, wanting, etc. This doesn't go along with the qualities of
>meditation and self realization? Gloria
Is that the game where I say something, and then you ask how come I pretend
to be spiritual & stuff when I'm not centered in the heart, accepting life
as a teacher and trusting God's will? ;)))
Well what would you know about these things? ;)
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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 21:41:11 +0100
From: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
To: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: background noise
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Hi Gloria! :)
>> P133, 64 MB RAM, 3.25 GB + 3.6 GB IBM HDD, Matrox MGA 2 MB, Philips
>> Brilliance 17", ZIP drive, Microtek ScanMaker E6, HP DeskJet 870 CXi, HP
>> LaserJet II, 33.6 GVC ext...
>>
>> :))) Now, if anyone here ain't got money for food, it ain't me.
>
>GG
>Thank you, now I understand, so the time thing is that you are working
>all of the time.
Exactly. :)
>:)))))
>> ROTFL :))))) My maniacs were rolling on the floor laughing when you first
>> mentioned that. :)) Starving people on internet, give me a break!
>
>GG
>Yes, I thought that was pretty odd myself but you sounded like you were
>desperate. And, living in terrible conditions.
Exactly, terrible conditions to practice stuff meant to be practiced in the
forrest or a mountain somewhere. :)
>> >I think we can all send you a lot of love and light, and compassion. God
>>
>> Come on! :))))))))))) ROTFL :))))))))))))
>
>GG
>You don't want love and compassion...
ROTFL :)))))
>> > I will personally wrap you up on my spiritual altar and give you
the
>> >love and consideration that your soul/spirit needs, you will make it. I
>>
>> Thanks, but I wouldn't suggest you get too close to the energy level I'm
>> channeling right now, not quite safe. :)
>
>GG
>I felt it and it is quite rigid and unfriendly but that is ok.
Have you ever heard of the mirror technique? ;)
>> >would say you are a writer deep down in your heart, and someday you will
>> >be doing a great work for God. Meanwhile, get yourself into that
>> >spiritual connection in the heart, and somehow things will improve. God
>> >Bless You, and speaking for all of us...we do love and care for you.
>
>Gg I hope that was a loving responce...but I accept it that way anyway.
You create it, it's whatever you want. :)
Take care! :)
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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 21:08:15 GMT
From: rtrevATnospamredsuspenders.com (Bob Trevithick)
To: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
Cc: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: background noise
Message-ID: <350e70ce.28782829ATnospammail.redsuspenders.com>
Danijel,
May I ask a simple, straightforward, question?
Why are you so angry? And at whom?
Bob
On Tue, 03 Mar 1998 21:46:10 +0100, you wrote:
>Is that the game where I say something, and then you ask how come I pretend
>to be spiritual & stuff when I'm not centered in the heart, accepting life
>as a teacher and trusting God's will? ;)))
>
>Well what would you know about these things? ;)
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Bob Trevithick
rtrevATnospamredsuspenders.com
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