1998/03/01 00:55
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #157
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 157
Today's Topics:
Re: Hi friend of Russell [ SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Partners [ SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> ]
I'm Back! [ SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> ]
Nondual Whitman [ Jerry Katz <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca> ]
Reply to Sharon's Request:new list!! [ "John Heinen" <jtheinenATnospamhotmail.com ]
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 20:43:07 EST
From: SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com>
To: DT0123ATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Hi friend of Russell
Message-ID: <3b93eb47.34f8bd2dATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-02-27 08:35:02 EST, you write:
<< Hi, Linda, im one of Russells friends, and i really liked your book, Loved
By
the Light. I have been trying to meditate, but it doesn't seem as though it
is doing any good. But recently i have been expericenceing things happening
to me, i have been able to see things that , i know that i dont know about.
it
is like i know things about people, that i really shouldnt know. what is
happening to me. Sometimes i think that i am becomming, sicophranic. { sorry
not a good speller} you seem to know so much, maybe you can help me
understand. Please get back to me, My name Is Della, you can get back to
me at DT0123ATnospamaol.com.
>>
ATnospam->->-- Hi Della,
I am not sure how you found me here on the Kundalini list, but this is a good
place to tune in to. Many folks here have been or are currently going through
what you are. I it feels to me like they care a lot and are trying to help
each other. There is also a lot of information in my book that can be very
helpful if you "do the work." As you have probably figured out by now,
Kundalini is not "just another experience." It is like pllaying with fire, a
very serious matter, but if done properly can be very useful. End result? Sat
Chit Ananda, Being, Consciousness, Bliss.
I look forward to hearing more from you. Love and Light, Linda
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 20:52:51 EST
From: SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com>
To: gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Partners
Message-ID: <3978e246.34f8bf75ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-02-27 16:14:28 EST, you write:
<<
This post is directed to partners of those going through a Kundalini
awakening. My husband Mark has been going through physical symptoms of
K for about 6 months. He is experiencing energy flowing throughout his
body and it is manifesting in yogic gestures. He is in contact with a
guide to help him through this. For a while, he hid these things from
me as he was afraid I would think he was crazy. He was terrified to tell
me and show me but, eventually, he couldn't keep it from me. I didnt
know what to think at first but one thing I knew was that he was very
sane. I have tried to be open-minded but truthfully I am having a
difficult time with this whole thing. I don't experience anything of
the kind nor have I ever seen this before.
I love my husband very much and would like to be supportive but it is
very difficult sometimes. >>
ATnospam->->--
My husband is very supportive of me and my Kundalini strangeness, but then, we
agreed a long time ago to be accepting of each other anyway. The best thing
you can do for each other is to try very hard to listen to each other and not
get defensive. Now matter how strange it gets, if we continue to listen and
show we really care, life can be a real adventure and your significant other
can be your best friend. Remember, all this is about, is learning how to
really love.
Love and Light, Linda
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 21:20:30 EST
From: SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: I'm Back!
Message-ID: <549b3d0d.34f8c5f3ATnospamaol.com>
Hi folks:
I just returned from two weeks on the road. Saw 5 of the 7 kids, three
grandchildren and a whole mess of relatives. We went to Las Vegas, Ogden Utah,
and Grand Junction, Co. just one days ahead of the big storm that blew in as
we were flying home. Coming back to the East after being back home in the West
is culture shock again, but anyone who can get used to Kundalini can get used
to that with no sweat.
Did all of you get your responses in about the ear ringing yet? If not, send
me yours. Also have any of you discovered any patterns yet?
I see you have a poll going about meditation techniques now. Neat.
I meditate by thinking of my Kundalini, and when it activates, which is
usually right away, I just kick back and enjoy the feeling. I think I'm
addicted to Bliss.
(:-) (:-) (:-) Love and Light, Linda
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 23:25:26 -0800
From: Jerry Katz <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Nondual Whitman
Message-ID: <34F90D66.1A50ATnospamns.sympatico.ca>
I was reading Walt Whitman's Song (I almost typed the word sponge) of
Myself yesterday and found some 18 sections that had kind of a nondual
flavor, so I excerpted them, re-arranged their order, and, well, created
a new Whitman poem. I hope HE doesn't get mad.
I exist as I am, that is enough,
If no other in the world be aware I sit content,
And if each and all be aware I sit content.
The sun I see and the suns I cannot see are in their place.
The palpable is in its place and the impalpable is in its place.
And will never be any more perfection than there is now,
Nor any more heaven than there is now.
And I could come every afternoon of my life to look at the
farmer's girl boiling her iron tea-kettle and baking
shortcake.
Anyway, there are three more of those at my website under the article
entitled Song of Myself Arrangement. Just scroll down a way's on the
home page. No ads and I'm not selling anything.
http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/umbada. Nondualism of Umba Da Standing Free.
Best to all,
Jerry
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 00:19:33
From: "John Heinen" <jtheinenATnospamhotmail.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Reply to Sharon's Request:new list!!
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980228001933.5da7300aATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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To all:
I am in absolute agreement with the request for a Practical sounding
board for subscribers de-emphasizing the esoteric philosophy and
emphasizing the day-to-day coping with various physical effects. What
a great resource this would be. I have a partner with very mysterious
symptoms that mimic epileptic seizures but with no EEG evidence. Lee
Sanella's book has helped, but it's not enough. She has a number of
other "medical" situations, none of which can be identified
allopathically, naturapathically or homeopathically. We hate to make a
garbage-pail term of Kundalini; in short we need discriminative
capabilities in terms of what is a come-and-go K-symptom and what is a
medical need. Who feels qualified to offer assistance?? What would it
take to birth the proposed K-P list??
JTH
______________________
List Mystress responds:
Hiya John...
Ask and ye shall receive... I have built it ...
(on the ashes of the other two.. <www.coollist.com> wasn't working
out.. <www.onelist.com> is much better. Thanks, J. :) )
...will you come?? It is open for membership.
There's no "experts", yet.. nobody there so far but me :) but 'when the
student is ready, the teacher appears'. I am sure the "experts" will be
drawn by Divine guidance answering the call of need.
Sometimes if you simply share your experience of difficulty, spirit moves
another awakened one to provide the solution.. the voice of Spirit is a
qualification not to be underestimated. The healing power of K-fire is why
the cadeuceus is a symbol of fully awakened K.
"Wherever two or more are gathered".. works in cyberspace.
The shiny brand new kundalini-p list is decribed thus:
<<<The spiritual and evolutionary process known as Kundalini awakening
can be joyous or harrowing to those undergoing it. Many esoteric
philosophies suggest ignoring all psychic and physical phenomena and
staying focused on the goal: enlightenment and self-realization.
This list community views the destination as being ultimately in the
hands of Spirit, and focuses instead on sharing thoughts on the beauty and
discomforts along the journey. The destination is universal, the paths to
It are individual: religous intolerance and prosetlyzing are discouraged.
Here awakened travellers of all paths may meet in harmony to share tales of
thier adventures, and to assist fellow travellers who may be encountering
difficulties along the way. The joy is in the journey.>>>
Subscribe yourself to this new list at
http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/kundalini_p
Welcome.. Blessings, Mystress. (on K_P duty?? Oy, leadership and
service..LOL!)
PS: you need to send your mail to the posting address.. you sent it to the
-request address. I redirected it for you.
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 23:36:20 EST
From: Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com>
To: jtheinenATnospamhotmail.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: new list
Message-ID: <78ac8fbb.34f8e5c6ATnospamaol.com>
Oh dear. Why fragment ourselves? Can't we just have an ongoing Subject:
SYMPTOMS!
I find it a bit difficult to separate the physical from the philosophical.
Love, Hillary
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For starters, I'm a student. I've been a student all my life and I always will be. I welcome new subjects and experiences to work with, but it wasn't until I discovered my chakras that I discovered Kundalini.
Actually, it happened before that, only I didn't know it at the time. About three years ago, a friend of mine passed away. I was sixteen at the time and she was eighteen, so of course it had a strong impact on my life. I was no longer immortal--at least not physically anyway. It consumed my thoughts, my focus, my life. Death. I spent more than a healthy amount of time wondering what it is to die, and ultimately, what it is to live. Suddenly, and without warning, I got an answer. Not the kind of answer that you get in words; the kind of answer where you just know. Or rather lack of knowing.
I was walking through the parking lot of a grocery store and it hit me. Unfourtunately, something else almost hit me as well--a car. The cursing and beeping of the irritated driver seemed at a distance as I stood there pale and afraid. It wasn't a fear of the car almost running me over, but the fear of understanding what I was. It rushed up my spine and into my head and almost seemed to be pushing me out of my body. I had such an awareness of my existance that I didn't know if I even existed. I thought I was going crazy and forced myself to look at the world from my familiar, mundane point of view. Afterwards, I was "plagued" by similar experiences for months to come, and eventually turned to God for an answer. I was then a born again christian.
A year later, it hit me again, and my faith in the church began to waiver. (I'm not trying to say the church is wrong.) A year after that, I began working with my chakras frequently. And then it happened. I had a dream. In it, I saw the collective consciousness and became a part of it, knowing what it knows and feeling what it feels. People ask me what it was that I "knew," but as many who have had a similar experience will tell you, knowing and understanding in the spiritual sense doesn't often pertain to facts. "What does God look like?" "How was the world created?" "When will the world end?" The answers to these questions are unimportant, at least to me after what I've experienced. And in case you're curious, I haven't the slightest idea what the answers are, nor do I care to know them. It doesen't matter when you understand what you are and why you're here; it's the experience that counts. At about this time I came across the concept of Kundalini while lo!
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oking for information on chakras. In retrospect, I know that I was not experiencing any kind of anxiety induced mental breakdown which I thought at the time. It was simply God, whoever He is or whoever you believe He/She is, giving me the answer to my question. Ironically, the answer was within the whole time.
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