1998/02/18 17:24
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #136
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 136
Today's Topics:
RE: More of us? [ Paul Fallon <pawlATnospamfirstnet.co.uk> ]
Bhagdad Peace Concert 2/19 & Nationa [ jeannegATnospamicon.net (Jeanne Garner) ]
Nonsense [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: Prana VS Kundalini [ "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> ]
Re: More of us? [ "Larry Schmitz" <taniaATnospamcentroin.com ]
Re: More of us? [ onarresATnospaminreach.com ]
Re: Prana VS Kundalini [ Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospams ]
Re:Puff the Magic dragon. [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
Confused and lost in the middle of a [ William White <bwhiteATnospamfrognet.net> ]
Re: More of us? (FWD) [ Chris Hughes <aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co. ]
Re: Question! [ Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ]
Re: More of us? [ Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.co ]
Re: Confused and lost in the middle [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net ]
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 08:52:26 -0000
From: Paul Fallon <pawlATnospamfirstnet.co.uk>
To: "'DruoutATnospamaol.com'" <DruoutATnospamaol.com>, "'k-list'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: More of us?
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Despite being k-awakened 15 years ago, I've never met anyone I could discuss even the symptoms with until this list. It's just not normal in my part of the world. And I've never felt drawn to join an organisation. SO, for me, this list is incredible: so many people dotted around AND hooked up to internet with this common experience. I guess I was in the closet until a safe medium was presented.
Paul
not not even begin- praps end return:
end, ning of end: of beginning> pawlATnospamfirstnet.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: DruoutATnospamaol.com [SMTP:DruoutATnospamaol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 9:54 PM
To: aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co.uk; kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: More of us?
Dear Chris,
Is there really any evidence that there are more of us than in the past? Or
are we simply more out of the closet?
Love, Hillary
·
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:41:43 -0600
From: jeannegATnospamicon.net (Jeanne Garner)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Bhagdad Peace Concert 2/19 & National Prayer Service 2/21
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>Please forward to your communities:
>
>Dear friends,
>
>There is a Bhagdad Peace concert on Thursday, February 19, 12 NOON EST.
>
>Several spiritual leaders are calling for a shared Nation Prayer Service on
>February 21 with a focal congregation in Washington D.C. at 5:30 pm EST.
>
>Notes about these events are making the rounds of various healing mailing
>lists. Lot's of folks will be offering prayers for Peace and healing energy
>at this time. Please join in as you can :)
>
>Notes about the Bhagdad Peace Concert and National Service follow.
>Namaste, Douglas
>The following was forwarded by Sarahji <SVitalChiATnospamaol.com>...
>
>On Bhagdad Peace Concert
>
>Dear Friends,
>
>Some of you may have read the book: Emissary of Light, by James F. Twyman.
>It is an account of his experiences in Bosnia and Croatia in 1955. He
>journeyed there by invitation to give a peace concert. He had set to music
>the words of the peace prayers of the world's twelve major religions. That
>concert turned out to be just one aspect of the purpose of his journey. He
>also met a group of thirteen people, the Emissaries of Light. He learned
>about their work and told their story in his book. I highly recommend it to
>anyone who has yet to read it.
>
>This morning, James' literary agent, Sandy Satterwhite, called to tell me
>that he has been invited by Saddam Hussein to give a Peace Concert in
>Bhagdad this coming Thursday, February 19! The concert will take place at
>noon, EST; nine AM PST.
>
>Sandy asked that as many people as possible be told of this event so that we
>may support James in our meditations and prayers at that hour on Thursday
>and join him as emissaries of light and peace. Let us pray for the miracle
>of a divine resolution to the present Iraqi crisis. Thank you, everyone....
>with love,
>James Francis
>
>Also......I want to draw your attention to this announcement from Marianne
>Williamson (www.marianne.com) which I have taken from her website.
>
>Dear Friends,
>James Redfield, Neale Donald Walsch and I have joined forces with other
>spiritual leaders to make an international call for prayer and meditation
>for peace between the U.S. and Iraq. This grew out of John Hagelin's putting
>out the word that enough people meditating would cause the tensions to
>transform. This is a very important moment for people throughout the world
>-- regardless of our specific religious or spiritual orientation -- to call
>on the power of God to create a miraculous breakthrough for peace and love.
>
>PLEASE JOIN IN WHATEVER WAY YOU CAN.
>Points to remember:
>
>l. Saturday, February 21: James, Neale and I will host a National Prayer
>Service in Washington D.C. at 5:30 pm. Simultaneous services will occur in
>L.A. and London. Locations for all three to be announced as soon as we have
>them. Service in L.A.: 2:30pm, London l0:30pm.
>
>2. We will silently meditate and pray for peace from 6:00 to 6:05 EST, 3 to
>3:05 PST, ll to ll:05 London time. JOIN US WHEREVER YOU ARE.
>
>3. If you can actually hold a simlutaneous service in your community, please
>post the information on the new "Feb. 21" message board. It will be up
>hopefully by noon tomorrow. Or, call the ARA office in Washington at 202
>544-1219, or in Santa Barbara at (805) 565-8757. We'll post things as soon
>as we know them.LET'S TRY OUR BEST TO SURROUND THE WORLD WITH
>PRAYER.Particularly pray for Sadam Hussein, and the oneness of the American
>and the Iraqi people.
>
>4. We will continue the silent five minutes each day, same time, for seven
days.
>
>Please participate. Time is very short, so please do everything you can to
>put the word out to anyone who shares our faith in faith.
>
>All my best. Thank you for being there. Marianne
>
>
>
>
Jeanne
==-* My stars!
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 13:18:09 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
Subject: Nonsense
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Jason S. White wrote:
>Why not gush utter nonsense? There is no imperative to be silent in order
>to >be with Spirit. If there was, then the lurkers would be the most
>enlightened >and those that contribute volumes the least enlightened on
>the list.
Someone on the list once actually hinted at that. It was a while ago. Might
have been the Lobster?, not sure. Soon after that, I cut way down on my
postings so as to appear more enlightened ;-P.
>We know that couldn't possibly be true! (just a joke... hey you lurkers,
>give >us your nonsense!)
Okay, you asked for it. Granted, I'm only a semi-lurker, but I cannot
resist a call to nonsense:
TO MY DEAREST W*****, MY PARTNER IN DAILY ENDEAVOR
Alas, many a day has sifted to dust,
and I sitting here in my scrunchy,
eyeing you from the livingroom's expanse
as you slide by the mattress
engulfed as fire feeds flame in desperation,
hoping you might take notice of my butt,
and give light to my silent bliss
for your sparkling smishy.
Rendevous with me by the kitchen sink
for a bit of smooching in an hour.
Upon culmination of this brief encounter,
your eyes will see I am the pinchiest cheek
as my aura so manifests itself.
Twistily yours,
me
JMHO,
amckeon
--
_____
/ \
Hmmm...to ......... or (____/\ )
not to .........? ...... |___ U?(_____
_\L. | \ ___
/ /"""\ /.-' | |\ |
........ ( / _/u | \___|_)_|
.......... \| \\ / / \_(___ __)
........................ | \\ / / | | |
............................. | ) _/ / ) | |
................................ _\__/.-' /___( | |
_/ __________/ \ | |
// / ( ) | |
( \__|___\ \______ /__|____|
\ (___\ |______)_/
\ |\ \ \ /
\ | \__ ) )___/|
\ \ )/ /__( \
__ | /_//___| \_/______________
_/ ( / OUuuu \
`----'(____________)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 14:26:56 -0400
From: "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com>
To: kl List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Prana VS Kundalini
Message-ID: <34EB27F1.E62EE663ATnospamerols.com>
Oddly enough, or maybe not so odd, I was pondering this question just this
morning. I just hadn't mentioned it yet.
Blessings,
Orea
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:58:05 -0300
From: "Larry Schmitz" <taniaATnospamcentroin.com.br>
To: <DruoutATnospamaol.com>, <aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co.uk>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: More of us?
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Dear all,
Just my 5 cents worth. As a neophyte, let me draw on my own
experience. I am in the very initial stages of discovering Kundalini.
Fully 100% of where I am is due to the ease of communication that
internet affords & all the wonderful material you all have provided.
Without this, I'm not sure I would know what is happening to me today.
I think that we will find the progress to swing from arithmatic to geometric
in a very short time.
Larry Schmitz
-----Original Message-----
From: DruoutATnospamaol.com <DruoutATnospamaol.com>
To: aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co.uk <aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co.uk>;
kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: More of us?
>Dear Chris,
>
>It seems strange that Gopi Krisha couldn't find anyone with a risen K to
help
>him when he was suffering so. Do you think the exposion now, (if there is,
>indeed an increase) is due to the type of meditation?
>
>How many of us have meditated?
>How many of us chant? or pray.
>How many of us have done hatha yoga exercises w/out meditation?
>How many of us have had NDE's
>Are any of us still agnostics?
>
>Has anyone done a survey? I've only been on the list for a couple of
months.
>
>Thanks everyone, Love, Hillary
>
>
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:00:13 -0800
From: onarresATnospaminreach.com
To: DruoutATnospamaol.com, aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co.uk, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: More of us?
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Ni,
A quick survey, no to every question but prayer... and my K is very active,
still burning away with great speed... Prayer not in excess...
At 01:33 PM 2/18/98 EST, DruoutATnospamaol.com wrote:
>Dear Chris,
>
>It seems strange that Gopi Krisha couldn't find anyone with a risen K to help
>him when he was suffering so. Do you think the exposion now, (if there is,
>indeed an increase) is due to the type of meditation?
>
>How many of us have meditated?
>How many of us chant? or pray.
>How many of us have done hatha yoga exercises w/out meditation?
>How many of us have had NDE's
>Are any of us still agnostics?
>
>Has anyone done a survey? I've only been on the list for a couple of months.
>
>Thanks everyone, Love, Hillary
>
>
>
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:09:12 -0800
From: Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca>
To: DruoutATnospamaol.com
CC: keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Prana VS Kundalini
Message-ID: <34EB6A18.1A78ATnospamsympatico.ca>
DruoutATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
> Dear Kurt,
>
> I was wondering if you or anyone else has a good description of the difference
> between Prana and Kundalini?
>
> Bonnie Greenwell in Energies of Transformation writes "The term 'prana' is
> used by some scholars interchangeable with 'Kundalini' but this is correct
> only in the most general sense...Prana is an electrical-like energy flow in
> the body which is more gross and more accessible than Kundalini, and in fact,
> keeps the entire system in working order even while Kundalini lies asleep or
> dormant at the base of the spine. It could be considered a stepped-down
> vibration of the more powerful Kundalini force..."
>
> Are there different symptoms associated with the two? Or is it simply a
> matter of degree? They both seem to be associated with Bliss mystical
> experience and a certain amount of spine activity.
>
> Thanks everyone,
>
> Love, Hillary
Dear Hillary:
I was reading your post and I hope you don't mind if I add my 20 cents
(inflation) worth.
What you are talking about here is something I have been wondering about
myself. I experience varying degrees of what I call "electromagnetic"
energy within my physical frame. From my experience there appears to be
an energy which "flows" smoothly in sine wave form and an energy which
"flashes" or "bursts" into parts of my body. I have been puzzled over
this. What do you think?
The flashing energy sometimes brings physical discomfort, especially
when I am trying to fall asleep. It seems to land right in my heart
center when I'm either already or falling asleep. My heart rate will
jump about 25 bpm's and of course I will not sleep. These bursts also
appear in my forehead (a lot lately), my legs, feet, hands, and my face
- mouth, nose, ears!
The other energy - the sine wave - is peaceful and loving. I love it. It
is with me neverending and moves to and from the top of my head and
chest as well as to and from the palms of my feet and hands. It is
electromagnetic as well. I feel consciousness attached to it - a will.
I think it's my greater self, but I haven't made the full connection
yet.
I'll stop for now so someone else can jump in on this flow and add some
new light.
Love in light(is what we are)
Mark
Ge Da
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:24:05
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: chelseaATnospamsuperaje.com (Dominic & Maureen Marando)
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, ks-listATnospamnbn.com
Subject: Re:Puff the Magic dragon.
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980218112405.0b6f2d74ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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after cymbal died, I got clearer information the song was not, "just"
for him, but for all the Starseeds seeking to reconnect with their magic.
Just for fun, take this quiz to see if you are a starseed too..
http://home.earthlink.net/~pleiadesx/starquiz.htm
Blessed Be. Mystress.
> Mistress wrote.....
Hearing the
>song always made him cry,
>
>At 11:28 18/02/98 -0500, Dominic & Maureen Marando wrote:
>>>>My two cents. Puff song always makes me cry too...pretty embarassing in a
>room full of adults :)
>Love,
>Mo
>
>
>
> Mystress Angelique Serpent,
> Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
> Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
> :D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
> I would rather live in a world where my life is surrounded by mystery
> than live in a world so small that my mind could comprehend it.
> -- Harry Emerson Fosdick
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
>
>
>
>
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
:D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
I would rather live in a world where my life is surrounded by mystery
than live in a world so small that my mind could comprehend it.
-- Harry Emerson Fosdick
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 16:35:12 -0500 (EST)
From: William White <bwhiteATnospamfrognet.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Confused and lost in the middle of awakening
Message-Id: <199802182135.QAA17866ATnospamfroggy.frognet.net>
To make a long story short, I suspect I accidentally awakened Kundalini
during entheogenic exploration, was totally unprepared for it, and have had
a year of odd and confusing symptoms which finally have led me to ask for
suggestions and/or comments from those "in the know". If you don't have
time or any suggestions that's OK too.
Let me explain. First off, throughout my life I've had altered-state and
odd experiences (this becomes relevant later). In particular, one set of
experiences which I'd had, starting at age 16 and continuing, and tapering
off by age 20, would start, usually while listening to music, with a
sense of energy rising inside starting at stomach level, as well as
hyperventilation, with rapid buildup of energy until it would "burst
forth", a sort of pre-emotional energy which flowed out through all
emotional pathways, resulting in laughter, crying, screaming, etc. --
an ecstatic (and yet in some ways agonizing) explosion which would
last, maybe 5 minutes before it went away. Sometimes there would be
hallucinations, delusions of grandeur, etc., sometimes not.
About five years ago, at age 22, I stumbled across the psychoactive
potential of dextromethorphan (DXM), a mostly-unknown entheogen of the
dissociative class (NMDA antagonist, sigma agonist), and began to use this
for out-of-body work, deep meditation, etc. All was going well, for the
most part, plenty of interesting experiences but nothing that I couldn't
handle; I was generally careful since this particular entheogen, although
legal, is in many ways considerably more powerful than LSD or psilocybin.
Importantly, many of the "side effects" it produces are reminiscent of
some of the described symptoms of the kundalini awakening (e.g., heat and
pressure around the crown of the head, bizarre posturing, buzzing or
rushing sounds, and of course the psychic component which includes out-of-
body and near-death experiences and such). Keep in mind that I was going
into mostly unexplored territory here, and furthermore was aware that
there would probably be some stumbling points.
The change came when I decided to use to use DXM in conjunction with
a plant-based serotonergic entheogen (same class as LSD, although
again legal). This was stricly unknown territory (which again was
nothing new, I've been working with lesser-known plants and such for
about a decade). I'll avoid describing the narrative of the "trip"
itself; what mattered happened in the time span of about 15 minutes.
Note that *none* of these symptoms I had were in any way characteristic
of former entheogenic experiences; despite the popular misconceptions
about psychoactive drugs, they are usually quite safe and predictable
once the individual has established her or his personal responses to
them.
It started while listening to didgeridoo music, and I began to have an
increasing "twitching" in my muscles, rhythmic movements, and assumption
of bizarre postures. Next came the feeling that my veins and arteries
were crawling around, and electric shocks propagating throughout my body.
This increased rapidly until it felt like my tailbone had been plugged
into an electric outlet, and an overwhelming energy started to flow up
from there, flooding my body, and which, out of reflex and/or fear, I
tried to resist.
This was the wrong move, I guess, because there was an increasing feeling
of pressure, reminiscent of how one's face feels during the Valsalva
maneuver (holding your breath and bearing down, a bad idea by the way
since it raises blood pressure) ... it felt like my body was about to
burst, like my cells were swelling with ... something, Idunno. Has
anyone else ever had this sensation? I don't see it listed in any of
the "kundalini symptoms" lists. It was kinda like being in a tight
wet-suit.
My skin was crawling, I felt like my molecules had started vibrating in
a new and faster way, and, becoming increasingly terrified, I terminated
the experience with 0.5mg clonazepam.
After that I was left with lasting symptoms. The main one was an intense
but intermittent headache above my left ear; I consulted with my physician
who found nothing wrong but suggested an arterial spasm in response to
serotonin syndrome (his suggested explanation for above experience). That
went away with time, but the mental/psychic problems got worse; I had
increasingly rapid mood swings, extreme fatigue, shaking, random intense
emotional outbursts ... all this makes a lot more sense now, but understand
that at the time, I had never *heard* of kundalini.
Finally, after seeing a neurologist, I was diagnosed with complex partial
seizures, probably starting from a bout of Reye's syndrome around 2nd
grade (he didn't think the entheogenic experiences were to blame, though
probably not terribly helpful). He started me on carbemazepine (a mood
stabalizer and antiseizure drug) which helped tremendously, and which I
continue to take along with imipramine for attention deficit. I'm still
rather emotionally vacant and fuzzy-brained, and most of all feel like I
am somehow "sub-aware".
Recently I heard from someone else who tried the DXM + serotonergic
combination and said, bluntly, that it awakened the kundalini energy. I
went to look it up on the web, and lo and behold this whole thing is
beginning to coalesce!
Now, even with the medication, I'm still having that same "body pressure"
feeling from time to time, as well as chest pains and occasionally rapid
and irregular heartbeat (went and had it checked out, my ticker's OK, I'm
actually in surprisingly good physical condition given my fatigue and
corresponding lack of exercise), digestive trouble, and other symptoms of
anxiety attacks. And from time to time my left leg goes numb (I'd never
thought anything of it, but it's in several articles about kundalini, so
I thought I'd mention it), and my back is generally tense and kinked up.
So, here I am, one year later, still having lingering symptoms, esp. the
mental and psychic ones (emotional detatchment, confusion, concentration
problems, etc.) It feels like something *started* to happen but I didn't
let it go through right, and it's still "blocked up" to this day.
Any ideas, suggestions, book recommendations, anecdotes, etc? I find
myself expending a fair amount of energy just coping with the lingering
symptoms, and the fatigue is really the worst since I know I'd feel better
if I had the energy to exercise more.
One last note -- none of the entheogens I've used are neurotoxic, and there
was no evidence of cerebrovascular damage; I suspect the entire thing is
happening at a spiritual/energy level rather than anything neurophysio-
logical. The complex partial seizure explanation is possible, but in
reviewing the literature it doesn't seem to quite fit right.
Thanks for any help.
William White
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 21:30:12 GMT
From: Chris Hughes <aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: More of us? (FWD)
Message-ID: <1998021821301284101ATnospamzetnet.co.uk>
=============== Start of forwarded message ===================
Dear Chris,
It seems strange that Gopi Krisha couldn't find anyone with a risen K to help
him when he was suffering so. Do you think the exposion now, (if there is,
indeed an increase) is due to the type of meditation?
How many of us have meditated?
How many of us chant? or pray.
How many of us have done hatha yoga exercises w/out meditation?
How many of us have had NDE's
Are any of us still agnostics?
Has anyone done a survey? I've only been on the list for a couple of months.
Thanks everyone, Love, Hillary
=============== End of forwarded message ===================
Dear Hillary/ Souls
The Strange thing is that Gopi Krishna and Guruji (Sri Siddheshwar Baba)
Author of the Third Eye and Kundalini lived within streets of each
other and Guruji consulted with Gopi when he experienced difficulties
with the rising Kundalini.
I have done Hatha Yoga, so has my wife.
I have meditated to a tape of guided meditation by Guruji, so has my wife.
My wife had a strong religious up bringing I did not.
I went to see Sai Baba my wife did not.
I use the mantra. "Om Nama Shvia" my wife does not
I am a recovered alcholic my wife is not.
My wife in her heart of hearts did not wish for K to waken I did.
My K did her's did not.
My K has been awakened about a year now and this hapened within days
of starting meditation and using the mantra. I have had a relativly
easy time of it no big mood swings. I think this is because I went
through hell as an alcholic my nerves literally breaking down with
massive mood swings.
Thank God for AA. Idont go now but I have been sober 20 years and the
AA recovery program started me off on the spiritual path. I hope that
in Gods mercy because of what I went through then I will not have to
face the difficulties experienced by Gopi or Guruji.
I do think there are more non believers but there are a lot of good
hearted people. Sai Baba has said "If you cant believe in God
believe in yourself
it's the same thing"
Out of body experience I believe in but have not experienced.
Hope this helps your idea of a survey.
In love and respect
Chris
Sai Ram
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:37:05 -0500
From: Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: Joe Early and Sheri Grimm <voulezvousATnospamserv2.fwi.com>,
"Mailing list (Kundalini)" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Question!
Message-ID: <34EB6291.32D83A82ATnospamconcentric.net>
Joe Early and Sheri Grimm wrote:
> Could anyone elebrate on the "dizzy" feeling from
> kissing someone? I too have had this experience
> and have often wondered why.
> Thanks,
> Sheri
Hello,
The letter U, explain it in some way.
Heart chakras opening, energy from the crown sinking in the heart of the male usually,
to the heart of the female and up her crown. Form a nice letter U. May also pass by
the chakra 5, and the mouth also, instead of the heart. or by the chakra 2, when
subtle pathways are open enough.
The symbol of the heart is a nice symbol for a closed pathway of energy between two
lovers. To me this is passion and you can't live on a closed pathway as a couple all
your life. Running on body energy then, always nice to be open to the universe as a
couple or an individual.
Hope it helps
Antoine
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 22:40:04 +0000
From: Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: More of us?
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At 13:33 18/02/98 EST, DruoutATnospamaol.com wrote:
>How many of us have meditated?
Yup.
>How many of us chant? or pray.
Uh huh.
>How many of us have done hatha yoga exercises w/out meditation?
Occasional Tai Chi
>How many of us have had NDE's
Nope.
>Are any of us still agnostics?
I'm a Transcendental Agnostic. I know something is going on, but I wouldn't
want to claim that I know for sure what it is. :)
R.
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 23:28:19 GMT
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Cc: bwhiteATnospamfrognet.net
Subject: Re: Confused and lost in the middle of awakening
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It started while listening to didgeridoo music, and I began to have an
increasing "twitching" in my muscles, rhythmic movements, and
assumption of bizarre postures. Next came the feeling that my veins
and arteries were crawling around, and electric shocks propagating
throughout my body.
This increased rapidly until it felt like my tailbone had been plugged
into an electric outlet, and an overwhelming energy started to flow up
from there, flooding my body, and which, out of reflex and/or fear, I
tried to resist.
IMHO this music had more to do with your symtoms than anything else.
Keywords are vibrations, resonance and didgeredoo. Your picking up
energy but then your interrupting the flow. I had the same problem
when taking Ultram. Then I realized it was the music/timing that was
helping me match resonance with the Earth's electro-magnetic pulses.
This is very powerful energy and it's good to have an outlet for it,
such as healing, RV, OOB, psi, etc.
Hope this helps some.
Jack
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