1998/02/10 18:00
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #118
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 118
Today's Topics:
Re: F*** <- censored ;))) [ Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ]
"fuck"...ad nauseum [ MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com ]
questions [ Natalie Pastor <npastorATnospammail.sdsu.e ]
Re: "fuck"...ad nauseum [ Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ]
Universal Prayer [ Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ]
Unidentified subject! [ iri <iriATnospamivyrealty.com> ]
Re: "fuck"...ad nauseum [ Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toro ]
Re: questions [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: Unidentified subject! [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: "fuck"...ad nauseum [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: Universal Prayer [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: One background coming up [ Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.co ]
Re: One background coming up [ Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.co ]
Re: F*** <- censored ;))) [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> ]
Re: "fuck"...ad nauseum [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> ]
Reiki ramble: hands of light [ Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com> ]
Ear Ringer's Vacation [ SchrLLATnospamaol.com ]
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 15:29:49 -0500
From: Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
CC: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: F*** <- censored ;)))
Message-ID: <34E0B8BD.29DA5D50ATnospamconcentric.net>
Angelique wrote:
> Hearing
> the inner voice tell me that the pleas for 'forgiveness, and freedom from
> sin' in the prayers I was hearing were unnecessary, that unconditional love
> not only forgave all, but found nothing evil that needed forgiving. It was
> me, that had judgements about stuff, and would reap what I sowed...
Love this one. So nicely said...
Antoine
--
It is possible for two factors to exist simultaneously within the entity of one
consciousness; in other words, the mind that realizes emptiness itself can
appear in the form of a deity.
"Highest Yoga Tantra" by Daniel Gozort
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 15:41:13 EST
From: MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: "fuck"...ad nauseum
Message-ID: <3e3fabb9.34e0bb6bATnospamaol.com>
I've been on the k- list 3 days now, and I'm disappointed about this ongoing
debate. I am looking for helpful info on kundalini.
I thought it was the topic at hand. I write for a living. My thoughts: In
some cases, use of the word "fuck" is very effective, if used consciously--and
sparingly.
Could we please move onto another topic? Thanks.
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 12:55:01 -0800
From: Natalie Pastor <npastorATnospammail.sdsu.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: questions
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hello everyone,
after reading Danijel's introduction instead of thinking about the word
fuck, i started thinking about all the things that happen to me during
meditation that i can't understand. these things are the reason i joined
the list.
i would really appreciate some input on the "mechanical" aspects of
meditation. i hope you are all not so out there you can't remember when
this all began for you. some of this stuff is scary!
the top of my head and the top of my ears are on fire, i feel as if my body
is trying to leave itself???
i see brillant violet and green lights pouring into me when i meditate,
with a pinprick of a white light in the center, i used to think this was my
aura.
my head keeps whipping toward the right - i can't control this and when i
bring it back to center, it usually whips back to the right again. this
makes my neck hurt - i have a painful tightness along the right side of my
neck that has been bothering me very much for over 6 months.
i have been having what i call "body orgasims" about once or twice a month.
my body lightly spasms all over and i feel bliss, the effect lasts for
several days and then fades. during this time i am totally pain free
whereas i normally have quite a lot of pain.
is this kundalini or do i check myself into the psych ward?
hoping for some insight,
natalie
Natalie Pastor
Library Instruction/Graphic Services
SDSU University Library
e-mail: npastorATnospammail.sdsu.edu
telephone: 619-594-2732
"Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished"
Lao Tzu
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 15:54:35 -0500
From: Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com, "Mailing list (Kundalini)" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: "fuck"...ad nauseum
Message-ID: <34E0BE8B.17ED7CDAATnospamconcentric.net>
MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com wrote:
> Could we please move onto another topic? Thanks.
Please ask a question if you need and answer, maybe some people here have that
answer for you here.
Love
Antoine
--
It is possible for two factors to exist simultaneously within the entity of one
consciousness; in other words, the mind that realizes emptiness itself can appear
in the form of a deity.
"Highest Yoga Tantra" by Daniel Gozort
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 15:58:51 -0500
From: Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: "Mailing list (Kundalini)" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Universal Prayer
Message-ID: <34E0BF8B.F5D8DF81ATnospamconcentric.net>
> The Universal Prayer
>
> So far today, God, I've done all right.
> I haven't gossiped,
> haven't lost my temper,
> haven't been greedy, or grumpy,
> nasty or self-centered.
> I am really glad about that.
>
> But, in a few minutes, God,
> I'm going to get out of bed
> and then I am going to need a lot of help.
>
> Amen
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:11:03 -0800
From: iri <iriATnospamivyrealty.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Unidentified subject!
Message-Id: <199802110409.WAA13611ATnospamsmtp1>
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Now that we have discussed the "F" word ad nauseum, do you think we can opt
for some other topic? Or is there something about the word that generates a
propensity to stay with the topic and if so what is that something?
I am not being persnicity nor am i trying to obfuscate things, but i do
concur with others that we have close to exhausted and even perhaps
trivialized the word.
I have a query, perhaps someone on this list has an answer. We have talked
about ringing in the ears but nobody as far as i know has discussed feeling
the pressure waves hit the ears and subconciously visualizing the sound
waves coming at the ears. Both of these phenomenon are experiences that i
have had during the last 2 or 3 weeks. My query: Is there a name or names
for these experiences and are they indicative of something...BTW, i was at
the doctor yesterday for a check up...the report is that i do not have any
bacterial infection in my ears, throat, chest, though I do have a cough
which seems to be symptomatic of a virus strain going around...it will leave
my body soon when I consciously elevate the level of my body's defenses
(including temperature) to fight it off and defeat it.
looking forward to your comments and opinions as always
vociferously yours
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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 16:49:25 -0500 (EST)
From: Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toronto.on.ca>
To: MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com
cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: "fuck"...ad nauseum
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9802101627.E13283-0100000ATnospambloor>
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Hello there new member. I like to talk about Kundalini rising. It is the
topic for the mailing list. I stick to it as much as possible.
I am over 18 and do try to make a little sense. I do not seek attention
to upset people, I seek share valid experience.
Have you read the book Serpent of Fire.
or Liquid Light of Sex, Kundalini Rising, Midlife Crisis and Menopause.
Great book.
Barbara
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:55:26 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Natalie Pastor <npastorATnospammail.sdsu.edu>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: questions
Message-ID: <34E04E3D.44B7ATnospamintercomm.com>
Natalie Pastor wrote:
>
>
> the top of my head and the top of my ears are on fire, i feel as if my body
> is trying to leave itself???
GG
This is some of the effects of kundalini burning out the blocks, the
green is from the heart center and violet coming down from the third
eye, it means that those centers are getting some activity which are
positive signs of getting into the heart center. Check out my homepage
and then if I can help I will.
>
> i see brillant violet and green lights pouring into me when i meditate,
> with a pinprick of a white light in the center, i used to think this was my
> aura.
>
> my head keeps whipping toward the right - i can't control this and when i
> bring it back to center, it usually whips back to the right again. this
> makes my neck hurt - i have a painful tightness along the right side of my
> neck that has been bothering me very much for over 6 months.
GG
This movement should be allowed to go on its own don't manipulate it,
allow kundalini to go where it needs to go.
>
> i have been having what i call "body orgasims" about once or twice a month.
> my body lightly spasms all over and i feel bliss, the effect lasts for
> several days and then fades. during this time i am totally pain free
> whereas i normally have quite a lot of pain.
>
> is this kundalini or do i check myself into the psych ward?
GG
Don't worry, my advise is to focus on your realationship with God, by
doing this you create the bridge of awareness to go through the process.
This is a lifetime experience so one must learn detachment.
>
> hoping for some insight,
> natalie
>
> Natalie Pastor
> Library Instruction/Graphic Services
> SDSU University Library
> e-mail: npastorATnospammail.sdsu.edu
> telephone: 619-594-2732
>
> "Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished"
> Lao Tzu
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 14:05:30 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: iri <iriATnospamivyrealty.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
Message-ID: <34E05099.31B3ATnospamintercomm.com>
iri wrote:
>
> Now that we have discussed the "F" word ad nauseum, do you think we can opt
> for some other topic? Or is there something about the word that generates a
> propensity to stay with the topic and if so what is that something?
>
> I am not being persnicity nor am i trying to obfuscate things, but i do
> concur with others that we have close to exhausted and even perhaps
> trivialized the word.
>
> I have a query, perhaps someone on this list has an answer. We have talked
> about ringing in the ears but nobody as far as i know has discussed feeling
> the pressure waves hit the ears and subconciously visualizing the sound
> waves coming at the ears. Both of these phenomenon are experiences that i
> have had during the last 2 or 3 weeks. My query: Is there a name or names
> for these experiences and are they indicative of something...BTW, i was at
> the doctor yesterday for a check up...the report is that i do not have any
> bacterial infection in my ears, throat, chest, though I do have a cough
> which seems to be symptomatic of a virus strain going around...it will leave
> my body soon when I consciously elevate the level of my body's defenses
> (including temperature) to fight it off and defeat it.
>
> looking forward to your comments and opinions as always
> vociferously yours
Indra and I had this conversation a few days ago, the sounds or nada are
common to the awakening process. You see and experience God as light and
sound, anyway the sound that comes will vary, chiming of bells, the
flute sound is from the heart chakra, the gong like from a distant
church, the sound of the ocean and the conch or om. This is the
creative sound and once you begin to work from the higher centers you
will begin to hear the om sound all the time. At least for me it is 24
hours a day.This is normally in the right ear first. When it goes to the
left ear it generally leads to an immediate altered state, again I can
only speak from my experience.
My adivse is to learn detachment and simply get use to it without notice
so that you don't interfere. Gloria
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:58:03 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: "fuck"...ad nauseum
Message-ID: <34E04EDB.5F0BATnospamintercomm.com>
MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
> I've been on the k- list 3 days now, and I'm disappointed about this ongoing
> debate. I am looking for helpful info on kundalini.
>
> I thought it was the topic at hand. I write for a living. My thoughts: In
> some cases, use of the word "fuck" is very effective, if used consciously--and
> sparingly.
>
> Could we please move onto another topic? Thanks.
MM,
Hi, I understand your feelings, this will pass. Check out my homepage
and I will be happy to give you some good grounding instructions. Can
you give us your background and what is going on in your life. You can
find mine on my homepage. Quite a few of us have homepage sites that
make it a lot easier to get information on us, do you have a homesite?
Gloria If your new to meditation, I have that on my homepage also.
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 14:06:46 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: acarreATnospamconcentric.net
CC: "Mailing list (Kundalini)" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Universal Prayer
Message-ID: <34E050E5.5819ATnospamintercomm.com>
Antoine wrote:
>
> > The Universal Prayer
> >
> > So far today, God, I've done all right.
> > I haven't gossiped,
> > haven't lost my temper,
> > haven't been greedy, or grumpy,
> > nasty or self-centered.
> > I am really glad about that.
> >
> > But, in a few minutes, God,
> > I'm going to get out of bed
> > and then I am going to need a lot of help.
> >
> > Amen
That's great, I like it> Gloria
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 00:06:19 +0000
From: Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: One background coming up
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980210214229.009c0d30ATnospammail.which.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
At 08:36 10/02/98 PST, you wrote:
>
>>
>>At 21:24 09/02/98 +0100, Danijel Turina wrote:
>>
>>>Aren't you taking this a little bit too seriously? ;))
>>
>>And that, ladies and gentlemen, says it all. :))))))))))
>>
>>R.( Richard Wentk )>
>>
> People have always loved a good story..but seeing how the questioning
>of using *that word* led to a discussion of the essential nature of
>duality and what leads to enlightenment..wow. Maybe this is more like
Don't know about the questioning, but - if I remember correctly - the
experience itself is intimately connected to the essential nature of
duality, and when treated correctly can also lead to enlightenment.
Does anyone know the Sanskrit for it? :)))
>"Give people an inch and they will take a mile." ???
I couldn't possibly add anything at this point that wouldn't be
scatalogical, and so - to spare our most sensitive readers - I shall simply
say nothing.
>Gloria Lee, still smiling
Oh, me too. (As they say. :) )
R.
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 00:06:21 +0000
From: Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: One background coming up
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980211000515.008db100ATnospammail.which.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
At 11:39 10/02/98 -0500, Barbara Shinton wrote:
>Hey Richard what do you know about Kundalini rising?
I have a rule of thumb which says 'Beware anyone without a sense of humour.'
It's often very useful. :))))))
R.
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 01:04:50 +0100
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: F*** <- censored ;)))
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980211010450.0093ec40ATnospampop.netaddress.com>
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Hi Mystress! :)
At 11:31 1998.02.10, Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
> Sometimes I write posts then sit on 'em for a while.. try to figure out
>what the %^$&*##!! I am saying... and whether I am just saying it for me or
>if I am saying it to share..
I felt something like that going on, yes. :) :* :)
>At 19:00 09/02/98 +0100, Danijel Turina wrote:
>
>>>>It always amused me how some people manage to see God in a church but not
>>>>in a public toilet. ;)))))))) ROTFL :)))))))
>
> Finding God in church was easy.. finding God in "profanity" is a bigger
>challenge.
Especially in things that seem to be fundamentally incompatible with mental
God-conceptions. ;)
>>>I think
>>I would not be much off target if I said that the very same enlightened
>>people seem to be bothered by our List Mystress's slave owning policy and
>>my choice of words. ;))) Maybe it makes them nervous, I don't know why. ;>
>
> I do.. it is because they do not percieve that a spanking can be
>heart-centered. Nor did I, for a long time. I was pretty repressed by
>feminisim, once... I signed petitions for obscenity laws as a teenager,
>that limit my creative expressions today.
>
> They think it is dangerous to work with the lower chakras without
>clearing the upper chakras first, but it seemlingly never occurs to them
>that that is precisely what I already did, and it was my heart, that
>brought me chakra by chakra, to this place of notoriety.. that such a thing
>is possible, is perhaps the most fearsome idea, and why it took me so long
>to get here.. I prove it is possible, by manifesting thus.. the message is
>the medium is the message.. is love.
:))) And understanding of this seems to be blocked by some of the most
serious surrendering problems - I have once read a story regarding a sufi.
God told him: "If I told people of the way you see Me, they would stone you
to death". "If I told people of Your infinite mercy and compassion, no one
would ever pray to You again", the sufi replied. ;))))))))))))) ROTFL
:)))))))))))) It made quite an impact, although I did not always manage to
have that in mind, and I did judge some things as inconsistent with
Divinity; an ego/fear pose, of course. The only thing inconsistent with
Divinity is non-existence, and of course, it doesn't exist. ;))))))))
> I did the holy spirit thing as a catholic schoolgirl ... making the whole
>chrurch glow with the white light I was bringing down thru my crown and out
>my heart.. and so I was deeply grounded, listening to the mass.... hearing
>the inner voice tell me that the pleas for 'forgiveness, and freedom from
>sin' in the prayers I was hearing were unnecessary, that unconditional love
>not only forgave all, but found nothing evil that needed forgiving. It was
>me, that had judgements about stuff, and would reap what I sowed...
Yes, that seems to ring a bell... Judging yourself. Not being worthy.
>>...<...> those naughty people claiming to know God
>>must be on a major illusion-trip, yes, this must be it. You hear that
>>Angelique, we'll have to start working on becoming heart centered in order
>>to become realized.
>
> I find it faintly ironic that no-one ever realizes, that my becoming a
>Domina codenamed satan= Kundalini, was not "my" idea of how I would be
>spending my life. I always thought I'd be a painter, and was, for a little
>while.. I was drawn into BDSM, following the voice of the heart: the path
>of my K.
> I had to resolve a lot of issues for myself, to understand how Goddess
>can be in All sexual expressions. I do not expect those who have not
>trodden in my moccasins, to understand wherof I speak, it is experiential.
>It gives me pleasure to share of my experience, so I do. How folks respond
>to it, has a lot more to do with their relationship with the mirror of
>themselves that I represent, than it has to do with me. Yet they see things
>in me, that I do not see in myself. I accept that it is there, coz I Am All
>that Is..
>
> I dreamt of my future as an adult, at age 9, and did not recognise the
>BDSM trappings of the dream, until I understood them in myself, in the
>early 90's.. the dream is yet to become my reality, but I see where I am
>headed towards that place.. blessed be!
> I learned of the bodhisatva path from a seagull named jonathan. He used
>the rejection he experienced as outcast, as a reason to be free to follow
>his passions.. they led him into ascension, and from that place he realized
>how much he had missed in not sharing, and went back to the physical to
>teach the other outcasts how to really fly.
> The success manuals said that to be successful, pick a goal that is way
>more than anyone could possibly achieve in one lifetime, and that benefits
>as many people as possible. Think big. OK, I said to my self, what's the
>biggest thing?? How about the healing of all human misery?? Fits the bill
>OK.. where to begin?
> So I began to study why people were unhappy, and read all the books did
>all the self-help programs, and spent years querying my friends and
>hairstyling victims about how happy they were and why.. and read that the
>greatest minds of psychiatry have said that all unhappiness came from
>sexual repression.
> Lead by example, the books said.. to change the world, change yourself.
>So I began my odyssey to unrepress what I had repressed by necessity when I
>was younger. I could not have done it, if not for the voice of spirit
>insisting that the creative sexual energy that can result in new life, is
>sacred in all of it's forms.. insisting I give love to things that I wanted
>to shy away from, and offer acceptance to the unacceptable.
Mystress, if I could possibly love you more, I would.
> ....and digging to the roots of that, I found Kundalini, and at last an
>explanation for what the %^$&*##!! had been going on with me, all my life...
> (To be fair, Goddess had pointed out the eastern paths before, but being
>repressed, I had been too insecure to possibly believe it that I might be
>so "special" as to be granted such favors...they said it could only happen
>every few hundred years, after spending half your life sitting under a tree
>or in a cave, or something.. LOL! )
Yes, that reminds me of my concept of Kundalini learned from the upanishads
- 3.5 times coiled serpent at the root chakra, performs a lightning-storm,
millions of thunders when rising... I expected so much that I had my Shakti
awakened for years before being sure that I did - actually, I felt it but
my mind didn't seem to've been satisfied, until I found Kurt's FAQs on the
Spiritweb. ;))) Kurt, I don't know how to thank you, you're a life-saver.
;)))))))))))
> Goddess is generous.. (preening my wingfeathers at such fine
>compliments..)
:))))))))
> I have my flocks of outcasts to tend to, sexual fetishists on one side
>and K. awakened types on the other.. LOL! ... and I accept that the balance
>and union of these two things, may be only apparent to me. And apparently,
>to you. Thankyou for seeing me..
:*** :)))
>> and since God is sooooooo
>>good, nice and fluffy, all heart, :)))))))))))))))))))) ROTFL
>:))))))))))))) LMTO
>>:))))))))))))))
> Well, She really Is!! That is why she loves kinky folks and repressed
>folks alike.. why Hitler went to heaven..
Of course She is! :))) The point I was making has something to do with what
I could call "soap-opera heart activity". ;)) There is of course another
kind of anahata activity, but one has got to have anahata 5 cleared, all
the way, and also to be fully vertical, completely open; whenever I
externalized that, someone's Kundalini got itself awakened. ;))) Not at all
mild and warm stuff, more like a contained atomic blast. ;)))
>>Oh well, have fun, and a lot of nice fluffy white and gentle words. :)))))
>
>>E-mail : dturinaATnospamusa.net
>>Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377
>>
> Well, the F-word has a nice zing to it.. and so I like to keep it fresh,
>and only use it for special occasions.. I find using cartoon swearing
>*ATnospam#%^&$% leaves folks free to fill in the blank, and they usually choose
>more "shocking" words than I might have meant, anyways. My cartoon swearing
>means "heck". LOL!
;))) I have my own version of that, it goes something like:
"What the#"#%$$%&/!"&NO CARRIER". ;)))))))))))))))))
> Blessings and All, Mystress.
:**** :)))
-----
E-mail : dturinaATnospamusa.net
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 00:59:31 +0100
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: "fuck"...ad nauseum
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At 15:41 1998.02.10 EST, MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com wrote:
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>I've been on the k- list 3 days now, and I'm disappointed about this ongoing
>debate. I am looking for helpful info on kundalini.
What do you prefer: talking about Kundalini or Kundalini in some serious
action? I ask that because the second option was here all along, even more
so in the last few days, regardless of the first being a little off-line. ;)
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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 16:45:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: centerATnospamiac.net
Subject: Reiki ramble: hands of light
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Quotes from Barbara Hambly:Dragonsbane
"We change what we touch."
"The key to magic is not magic, but the use of magic; it
lies not in having, but in giving and doing - in loving, and in being
loved"
The seed of this string of thought was how one might give pleasure through
touch, in nonsexual ways.
Initially I thought of doing what John and I call 'Sculptor's Hands". This
consists of using my hands to learn the contours of something. It informs my
fingers of the folds at the corners of the eye, the hollow under the
shoulderblade when the shoulder rounds foward, the spring of the ribs, etc.
John and I did it when we created the cowdog in a magick ritual. We used our
hands to shape the raw love energy into a dog-shaped, dog natured being:
Love,the
cowdog bitch. I refer to this as 'telling' the dog herself.
I understand now that when we do it to each other, out of a place of love
within ourselves, and of "speaking to that of God" in the other with
our>hands, we 'tell'each other in much the same way. That is to say, we
strengthen the Truth of each other on a cellular level. We help
each other become more our Selves.
Next I saw that Reiki or any other hands on healing modality is a giving
and receiving of pleasure.
Two days later, after doing reiki on J and on Shampoo and on K, noticed
that when I do clay, often my palm chakras are open and my hands are hot.
This led to consciously opening them when I did Sculptor's Hands on John next
time. This was one of the times whe I could see a bit. I saw that when my
palms were open and hot, light passed through each cell of J's body as my
hands passed over, but also it passed through the subtle bodies, too. After
the passage of my hands, his body was more 'right' feeling. So was I.
Cows are calling about breakfast.
love,
Blythe
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 19:53:11 EST
From: SchrLLATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Ear Ringer's Vacation
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Dear list friends,
ATnospam->->--
I'll be gone on vacation for two weeks. Save the EAR Ringing stuff for me
tilll I get back. I should have some more results to post then too. Meanwhile,
if you need a dose of love, come and visit my web site at
Http://members.aol.com/Schrll/Light/html
Rember, we are loved so very much, believe it or not.
Love and LIght, Linda
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