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1998/02/10 09:57
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #116


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 116

Today's Topics:
  Re: Canadian Love [ Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospams ]
  Re: [Fwd: TriLite Removing Entities] [ Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> ]
  Re: Coarse language...or is it a cou [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
  Re: Canadian Love [ Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ]
  (no subject) [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
  Re: REAL LOVE [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> ]
  Re: F*** <- censored ;))) [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> ]
  Re: LOVE [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> ]
  Coarse language [ AfperryATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: Coarse language...or is it a cou [ RadiantTchATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: Coarse language [ RadiantTchATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: F*** <- censored ;))) [ "Sen Ashanka"<sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it ]
  Re: mirrored love [ "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhot ]
  Re: One background coming up [ Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.co ]
  Re: Coarse language [ freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net> ]
  RE: F*** <- censored ;))) [ Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserv ]
  Anothering F&*#ing comment... [ Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com> ]
  Re: Coarse language [ RadiantTchATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: LOVE [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
  Re: Coarse language [ freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net> ]
  Re: Coarse language [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
  Re: One background coming up [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
  Re: One background coming up [ Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toro ]
  Re: Coarse language [ RadiantTchATnospamaol.com ]
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 00:56:25 -0800
From: Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca>
To: Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toronto.on.ca>
CC: Susan Carlson <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Canadian Love
Message-ID: <34E01639.11E9ATnospamsympatico.ca>

Barbara Shinton wrote:
>
> Now you guys are making me laugh. And to think your Canadians with a
> sense of humor.

Dear Barbara: This Canadian has to have a sense of humour. It's the only
way one can survive in a three party fascist regime. Canada is a strange
country; nine English speaking provinces ruled by one French speaking
province! May the good Lord bless us - each and every one!

Mark
ge da
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 22:04:00 -0800
From: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: [Fwd: TriLite Removing Entities]
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980209220356.00b4021cATnospampop.sonic.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

This is great!!!!

What list was the post on? Is 'TriLite' a list? How can I join?

Mary

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>>Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 15:22:32 -0800
>>From: Carol Hathor <popcornATnospamtheofficenet.com>
>>Reply-To: popcornATnospamtheofficenet.com
>>To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Fwd: TriLite Removing Entities]
>>
>>Hiya,
>>
>>Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Grrl:
>>> Can I forward this post? It is good info, as you say, and I would like
>>> to share it.
>>You bet. Go grrl!!!
>>
>>Love, Carol
>>
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 22:43:17 -0800
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>,
 "heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com" <heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com>
Subject: Re: Coarse language...or is it a course in language? (warning, this uses COARSE words)
Message-ID: <34DFF6FF.F7FBA351ATnospamgeocities.com>

Kathy wrote:

> Hokay, I'm way crazy today and the posts on the K-list are language-oriented...
>
> What, my dear friends, is *really* in a word, whether that word is "coarse" or "fine"...it's all value judgments that we put on the language, dontchathink?
>
> Buzzed by the words, does this mean there's something there we need to work on? Dunno...
>
> Just *do* know that it is fun to use "those words"...a well-placed "fuck" in certain conversations is sometimes more effective than any other word...what's
> saddening about it?
>
> Sometimes ya just gotta get the **** out of the way so the K-energy can get through...
>
> ...making sense today?
>
> Delirium (Kath)

   Anandajyoti>
The Fire of K burn and also soothe. The ongoing discussions going on for the last couple of days, appears that some are really havong conflaggaration of the
K-Fire and having verbal diahrrea. We all anuses, does ot behove to anyone in the right mind, to have food through that apertuer instaed of the mouth, as
Nature meant it to be?
Choice is upto the list members to feed the fire or quench it. I guess humans have a lot more capability of verbal or frequency useage , quite more so than the
animals in the wild.
With due respect to everyone in using their freedom of speech, I don't consider that this line of communication be continued. I do not consider freedom of
speech as a licence.

Anandajyoti
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 01:38:14 -0500
From: Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca
CC: Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toronto.on.ca>,
 Susan Carlson <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Canadian Love
Message-ID: <34DFF5D6.7B1F6B70ATnospamconcentric.net>

Geryl and Mark Waind wrote:

> Dear Barbara: This Canadian has to have a sense of humour. It's the only
> way one can survive in a three party fascist regime. Canada is a strange
> country; nine English speaking provinces ruled by one French speaking
> province! May the good Lord bless us - each and every one!

I'm french canadian, i wish it was true.

Wonder if it means i don't have a sense of humour :-)

Antoine
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 02:23:20 -0500
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: (no subject)
Message-ID: <34E00068.BF2A5474ATnospammail.snet.net>

There's a chameleon
sitting on invisibility.
Being still.
If you grab it by the tail.
It will fall off.

The moon quivers.
The world is a fleeting moment...
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 10:59:41 +0100
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: REAL LOVE
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980210105941.0094eb90ATnospampop.netaddress.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi Ram! (I sure hope I got it right:)
At 10:23 1998.02.10 +0500, you wrote:
>
>
>On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Geryl and Mark Waind wrote:
>
>> Barbara Shinton wrote:
>> >
>> > Not everyone can look in the mirror and see love..
>>
>> Dear Barbara:
>>
>> They should!
>>
> Here comes another LOVE person. DICTATOR
>shahanshah>

:)))))))))) ROTFL :))))))))))))

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Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 10:59:47 +0100
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: F*** <- censored ;)))
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980210105947.0094f610ATnospampop.netaddress.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 09:56 1998.02.10 +0500, you wrote:

> Beautifully expressed......love Danijel
>shahanshah

:** :)))

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E-mail : dturinaATnospamusa.net
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 10:59:36 +0100
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: LOVE
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980210105936.0094d8a0ATnospampop.netaddress.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Ram, is it you? Yesss!!! :))))

At 10:09 1998.02.10 +0500, Peswani wrote:
>
>
>On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Geryl and Mark Waind wrote:
>
>> Dear Daniel and List People:
>>
>> May I make a small suggestion? Instead of a huge intellectual
>> discussion centering around a trivial little insignificant world like
>> FUCK, why not have a discussion about a word that is infinitely more
>> significant;
>>
>> LOVE?
>>
>> I'll start the glowing ball rolling: anybody know what LOVE is?
>>
>> mark
>> ge da nop o
>>
>>
> LOVE, why do I not like the word LOVE.
> LOVE, to most of you or all of you is bliss, happiness,annand.
> COMPASSION to me is pain , Dukkha, tears.
> Who gave you LOVE? Who gave me COMPASSION?
> Fuck LOVE
>SHAHANSHAH

:))))))))))))))))))))))))
YESSSSS!!!!!

I had sooo much fun watching this love thread, laughing my ass off. ;)) I
almost started to worry if I was the only one noticing this, the background
of all that surface. :) It was all about love all the time, everywhere, but
there seems to be a group of people managing to see it only if it has
"love" written all over it, only if it is smiling, happy, fluffy - oh I
LOVE THIS WORD!! ;))))))))))))))))
What if it comes in an unknown form? I've always thought that Jesus had
thought us a lesson about love - that the greatest love is to give your
life for your friends, that there can be infinitely more love in suffering
and painful death than this pathetic little frightened ego-trip of a
thread. Wake up people, you've got it upside down.
Yes Ram, your definition of love is also mine - sinking into shit up to
your eyebrows in order to get someone out - even if it means dying in shit,
and even if no one knows what you did. Taking other people's ugliest stuff,
giving them your best stuff, taking a part of someone else's load to
yourself. Taking your cross to your own execution, and not wanting to save
yourself - even with your inner vision of what is going on gone.
How easy it was to push some people's buttons - one just has to close their
heart chakra for a couple of days and they are lost, all the repressed
junk, driven to the depths, out of the consciousness, starts to surface,
producing pathetic and ugly knowledge of the actual situation. It is not
about love, it is not about beauty. It is about the ugliest stuff you can
imagine - live it, let it possess you fully, your entire being, and if it
scares you even a little bit, if it causes even a little tiny bit of doubt,
fear, hate and similar nice stuff, you may be certain it is in you, the
only question is if you are going to face it, look it in the eyes and let
it come into you and release it, or are you going to build a nice beautiful
house on a junk pile. Anyway, sooner or later, the house collapses on its
week foundations and you are left with pure essence of what you are most
afraid of - with nothing to protect you. There is only one way, and that is
to face the junk, to acknowledge it, to let it pass through your entire
being, and to release it forever. That's how it is done. No point in the
appearance. The only point is the essence.
Jai Sai Ram!
I love you.

-----
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Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 05:46:53 EST
From: AfperryATnospamaol.com
To: RadiantTchATnospamaol.com
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Coarse language
Message-ID: <130e9b80.34e03021ATnospamaol.com>

 >Perhaps it is to look at why so-called "coarse" language saddens
>you. What beliefs/judgements (fear based) do you have attached to "coarse"
>language?

None whatsoever, as far as I am aware. And why are they automatically fear-
based? Invective as a matter of routine is just not part of my culture (I am
not American where such language may now be the norm), and the vibration it
creates is a down-pull. Sorry, that's just the way I feel!

Blessings,
Alan
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 06:06:03 EST
From: RadiantTchATnospamaol.com
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Coarse language...or is it a course in language? (warning, this uses COARS
Message-ID: <3a4021d9.34e0349dATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 98-02-10 01:38:45 EST, anandajyoti writes:

<<snip>> With due respect to everyone in using their freedom of speech, I
don't consider that this line of communication be continued. I do not consider
freedom of
 speech as a licence. >>

Through the thread of the current topic, I have been able to teach or be an
example many times to any who are open to seeing/hearing/feeling my words of
love and acceptance and nonjudgement of all, inviting ONENESS, UNITY........I
am honored by the exchange, the freedom of speech.

<3 Barbara Ellen <3
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 06:20:09 EST
From: RadiantTchATnospamaol.com
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Coarse language
Message-ID: <2652475a.34e037edATnospamaol.com>

<<BE >Perhaps it is to look at why so-called "coarse" language saddens
 >you. What beliefs/judgements (fear based) do you have attached to "coarse"
 >language?
 
Alan: None whatsoever, as far as I am aware. And why are they automatically
fear-based? Invective as a matter of routine is just not part of my culture (I
am not American where such language may now be the norm), and the vibration it
creates is a down-pull. Sorry, that's just the way I feel! >>
~~~~~~~~

Dear Alan,

If you really had "none whatsoever" beliefs attached to "coarse" language, it
wouldn't sadden you, it would be neutral to uplifted feeling. I feel it is
fear-based because of the emotion it invokes in you. Love doesn't sadden.
And I have already written about my view of vibrations and frequencies, so
I'll spare you that again. :-)

No apologies for the way you feel! I just see/feel it differently, and wanted
to express those differences. Thank goodness for our uniqueness!

Love,
Barbara Ellen
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 18:29:51 +0100
From: "Sen Ashanka"<sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: F*** <- censored ;)))
Message-Id: <C12565A6.005F138B.00ATnospamais.it>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

>At 10:39 1998.02.09 EST, RadiantTchATnospamaol.com wrote:
>>In a message dated 98-02-09 10:24:04 EST, Danijel writes:
>>
>><< It always amused me how some people manage to see God in a church but
not
>> in a public toilet. ;)))))))) ROTFL :))))))) >>
>>

God Exists
God is Existence
Anything in Existence is God
Even our thoughts

However, that is not to put us under any illusion that
we, being Gods, have all the right to do any nonsense.

Our true identity, our selves which we realise,
that which is beyond the body, mind, intellect and
also beyond words, that is God.

There is God in the church, and God in the toilet.
God is beyond Church and toilet.

There is God in the good
There is God in the bad
God is beyond good and bad.

There is God in virtue
There is God in evil
God is beyond virtue and evil

Everything is in God
But God is not in everything.

Like a horse is an animal
But an animal does not necessarily mean horse.
Animal is more than horse.

Existence is God
God is Existence and much more.

God is beyond here and there,
God is beyond now and later.
God is that which is not constrained in the
temporal and causal constraints.

God is Energy and Will.

Energy and Will exist in the Church as well as
the Toilet.

But......

To realise God, the path is through the good and
not the bad.

To realise God the place is the Church and not the
toilet.

That is because as long as we are not self-realised,
we need some guidance and help. That is available in
the Church and not the toilet.

The books of engineering is not knowledge, but to
become eingineers we do need the books and also to
be in a college with good atmostphere for learning.
This is what differentiates one university from another.

Similarly, to get spiritual guidance one needs the Bible
and the Church.

Once we are self-realised then.... well.....
I do not know ... ;-)

Cheers and love to all
Ashanka
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 04:13:35 PST
From: "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com>
To: divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com, gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: mirrored love
Message-ID: <19980210121336.24022.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain

>
>Susan Carlson wrote:
>>
>> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 19:53:07 -0800
>> From: Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca>
>>
>> Barbara Shinton wrote:
>> >
>> > Not everyone can look in the mirror and see love..
>>
>> Dear Barbara:
>>
>> G and W wrote:
>>
>> They should!
>>
>> Susan says:
>>
>> Uh oh! Now we are 'shoulding' on people. 'you must look into the
mirror
>> and you must see love!' ROTFLMTO!!! I can see G an W with someone in
a
>> headlock commanding them to look into the mirror and see love. :D
>
>Poor Susan needs all the Love she can get. She does not like what she
>sees in the mirror. Poor Susan!
>
>MM
>

I have all the love I can humanly get and need. I have never felt so
loved in my whole life as I do now and I know and experience more and
more love pouring into my life every second.

 I like what Peswami says...where's the compassion? Its easy to believe
we are loved...compared to acting and living compassionately.

Just my experience... :)

Susan

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:22:10 +0000
From: Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: One background coming up
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At 21:24 09/02/98 +0100, Danijel Turina wrote:

>Aren't you taking this a little bit too seriously? ;))

And that, ladies and gentlemen, says it all. :))))))))))

R.
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 06:49:01 -0800
From: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Coarse language
Message-ID: <34E068DD.285AATnospamblarg.net>

If a two year old says fuck, shit, damn etc... we ignore it, so as not
to "feed" into it.
If a k person says fuck..........
it takes two days to evaluate it?
:0
freda
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 09:44:48 -0500
From: Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: RE: F*** <- censored ;)))
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Hi All,

     I'm using MS Ouytlook, and when my mail comes in, it has all this garbAGE
IN IT BEFORE I CAN GET TO THE MESSAGE - does anyone know the menu options to
trim this out automatically?
Thanks,
Tom

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Danijel<< >It always amused me how some people manage to see God in a church
but not
 >in a public toilet. ;)))))))) ROTFL :)))))))

 Yes, all is Divine. Christ and Krishna are divine, so are Saddam Hussein and
 Hitler. And so is our power of discrimination...................Perhaps I am
 just old-fashioned but I for one find the use of all this coarse language
 somewhat saddening.

 Blessings,
 Alan >>

Dear Alan,

I find that to "rein" myself in simply for others' benefit dishonors me,
thereby dishonoring everyone else (at times, it IS honoring to me to keep
silent, or half silent, but not always - living/being in the moment). If me
being "me" is saddening or frightful or disapproved by others, that is a
reaction that the particular individuals are responsible for, not me. I do
not create those reactions in others - those fear thoughts/beliefs were
"inside" the individuals to begin with, and I may have helped bring them to
the surface for the person(s) to "look" at, for awareness and transformation
purposes. Perhaps it is to look at why so-called "coarse" language saddens
you. What beliefs/judgements (fear based) do you have attached to "coarse"
language? I see/feel that type of language as being just as light filled as
any other.

Of course, your thoughts are respected and honored, as well.

Namaste'

Barbara Ellen <3
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 07:18:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Anothering F&*#ing comment...
Message-Id: <199802101518.HAA00578ATnospampnn.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I save words like 'fuck' for when I really need them. When I used them lots,
I had nothing to yell that worked when I dropped a rock on my foot or got
smashed up by the killer cow, or hit my thumb with a hammer. That's when I
need words with zip to them. ;)
*laughing*
Blythe
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 10:54:51 EST
From: RadiantTchATnospamaol.com
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Coarse language
Message-ID: <3a40baa6.34e0784dATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 98-02-10 09:48:55 EST, Freda writes:

<<If a two year old says fuck, shit, damn etc... we ignore it, so as not
to "feed" into it.
If a k person says fuck..........
it takes two days to evaluate it?
:0>>

Heeheehee......yes, I see the humor of it all! I also see the
value....:-)))))))))))
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 08:20:23 -0800
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
To: "heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com" <heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com>,
 "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: LOVE
Message-ID: <34E07E41.618EC5D7ATnospamgeocities.com>

Danijel Turina wrote:

> Ram, is it you? Yesss!!! :))))
>
> At 10:09 1998.02.10 +0500, Peswani wrote:
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Geryl and Mark Waind wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Daniel and List People:
> >>
> >> May I make a small suggestion? Instead of a huge intellectual
> >> discussion centering around a trivial little insignificant world like
> >> FUCK, why not have a discussion about a word that is infinitely more
> >> significant;
> >>
> >> LOVE?
> >>
> >> I'll start the glowing ball rolling: anybody know what LOVE is?
> >>
> >> mark
> >> ge da nop o
> >>
> >>
> > LOVE, why do I not like the word LOVE.
> > LOVE, to most of you or all of you is bliss, happiness,annand.
> > COMPASSION to me is pain , Dukkha, tears.
> > Who gave you LOVE? Who gave me COMPASSION?
> > Fuck LOVE
> >SHAHANSHAH
>
> :))))))))))))))))))))))))
> YESSSSS!!!!!
>
> I had sooo much fun watching this love thread, laughing my ass off. ;)) I
> almost started to worry if I was the only one noticing this, the background
> of all that surface. :) It was all about love all the time, everywhere, but
> there seems to be a group of people managing to see it only if it has
> "love" written all over it, only if it is smiling, happy, fluffy - oh I
> LOVE THIS WORD!! ;))))))))))))))))
> What if it comes in an unknown form? I've always thought that Jesus had
> thought us a lesson about love - that the greatest love is to give your
> life for your friends, that there can be infinitely more love in suffering
> and painful death than this pathetic little frightened ego-trip of a
> thread. Wake up people, you've got it upside down.
> Yes Ram, your definition of love is also mine - sinking into shit up to
> your eyebrows in order to get someone out - even if it means dying in shit,
> and even if no one knows what you did. Taking other people's ugliest stuff,
> giving them your best stuff, taking a part of someone else's load to
> yourself. Taking your cross to your own execution, and not wanting to save
> yourself - even with your inner vision of what is going on gone.
> How easy it was to push some people's buttons - one just has to close their
> heart chakra for a couple of days and they are lost, all the repressed
> junk, driven to the depths, out of the consciousness, starts to surface,
> producing pathetic and ugly knowledge of the actual situation. It is not
> about love, it is not about beauty. It is about the ugliest stuff you can
> imagine - live it, let it possess you fully, your entire being, and if it
> scares you even a little bit, if it causes even a little tiny bit of doubt,
> fear, hate and similar nice stuff, you may be certain it is in you, the
> only question is if you are going to face it, look it in the eyes and let
> it come into you and release it, or are you going to build a nice beautiful
> house on a junk pile. Anyway, sooner or later, the house collapses on its
> week foundations and you are left with pure essence of what you are most
> afraid of - with nothing to protect you. There is only one way, and that is
> to face the junk, to acknowledge it, to let it pass through your entire
> being, and to release it forever. That's how it is done. No point in the
> appearance. The only point is the essence.
> Jai Sai Ram!
> I love you.
>

Anandajyoti>
Its all right to say all that have been said on the post regarding this thread.

Talk is indeed cheap, Well , many have proven it through their verbalization of
the concepts.
But to be it, requires its true living also.
Can any one eat his/her own excreta thinking it, or realizing it as food
itself. Same logic should follow in our use of any language and verbal
expression.
When is able to do that, truly he /.she has realized the both are coming from
Godliness/God, and truly loving and living it. That , That all is One.
 Anandajyoti
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 08:20:11 -0800
From: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
To: RadiantTchATnospamaol.com
CC: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Coarse language
Message-ID: <34E07E3B.45FATnospamblarg.net>

> In a message dated 98-02-10 09:48:55 EST, Freda writes:
>
> <<If a two year old says fuck, shit, damn etc... we ignore it, so as not
> to "feed" into it.
> If a k person says fuck..........
> it takes two days to evaluate it?
> :0>>
>
>
>> Heeheehee......yes, I see the humor of it all! I also see the
>>value....:-)))))))))))

okay, okay, it has clearly excited you.
go right the fuck along and get that shit right the hell out of your
system.
I'll not say another friggin' word on the matter.

freda
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 08:26:47 PST
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: RadiantTchATnospamaol.com
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Coarse language
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>
>In a message dated 98-02-10 09:48:55 EST, Freda writes:
>
><<If a two year old says fuck, shit, damn etc... we ignore it, so as
not
>to "feed" into it.
>If a k person says fuck..........
>it takes two days to evaluate it?
>:0>>
>
>
>Heeheehee......yes, I see the humor of it all! I also see the
>value....:-)))))))))))
>
Gloria Lee:
This list is a most interesting family, isn't it??? Reminds me of a time
when I was "counselling" at this group home where everyone spent an hour
viogourously complaining and fussing about how the others were getting
on their nerves..but no one wanted to actually leave.. heheh >

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 08:36:26 PST
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, richardATnospamskydancer.com
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>
>At 21:24 09/02/98 +0100, Danijel Turina wrote:
>
>>Aren't you taking this a little bit too seriously? ;))
>
>And that, ladies and gentlemen, says it all. :))))))))))
>
>R.( Richard Wentk )>
>
 People have always loved a good story..but seeing how the questioning
of using *that word* led to a discussion of the essential nature of
duality and what leads to enlightenment..wow. Maybe this is more like

"Give people an inch and they will take a mile." ???

Gloria Lee, still smiling

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 11:39:55 -0500 (EST)
From: Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toronto.on.ca>
To: Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.com>
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Hey Richard what do you know about Kundalini rising?
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 11:46:02 EST
From: RadiantTchATnospamaol.com
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Coarse language
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In a message dated 98-02-10 11:27:28 EST, you write:

<< Gloria Lee:
 This list is a most interesting family, isn't it??? Reminds me of a time
 when I was "counselling" at this group home where everyone spent an hour
 viogourously complaining and fussing about how the others were getting
 on their nerves..but no one wanted to actually leave.. heheh > >>

:-))))))))))) Ain't LIFE grand?!!!!!!!!!!

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