1998/02/09 18:30
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #114
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 114
Today's Topics:
Re: One background coming up [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> ]
Re: challenge [ onarresATnospaminreach.com ]
Re: F*** <- censored ;))) [ RndmOneATnospamaol.com ]
Re: challenge [ Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospams ]
Re: LOVE [ Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospams ]
Re: LOVE [ Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toro ]
Re: challenge [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: LOVE [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: LOVE [ RadiantTchATnospamaol.com ]
Re: LOVE [ "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch ]
Re: challenge [ QwartzATnospamaol.com ]
Re: LOVE [ RadiantTchATnospamaol.com ]
Re: challenge [ "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch ]
Vibration [ RadiantTchATnospamaol.com ]
Re: REAL LOVE [ Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospams ]
Re: LOVE [ Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toro ]
Re: challenge [ Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toro ]
Re: Democracy, etc. [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: REAL LOVE [ Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toro ]
RE: Anahata and the Heart [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: HRTZEN: [Fwd: Re: <- censored ;) [ iri <iriATnospamivyrealty.com> ]
Re: REAL LOVE [ Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospams ]
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 21:24:46 +0100
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
Subject: Re: One background coming up
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980209212446.0094c670ATnospampop.netaddress.com>
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Hi Gloria! :)
At 10:16 1998.02.09 +0100, Gloria Greco wrote:
>> >I'm glad you have
>> >found your answers inside and are beginning to find your way into
>> >realization. Perhaps you can do away with the f word as you do this.
>>
>> ;)))))))))))))) ROTFLMTO (rolling on the floor laughing myself to orgasm)
>> :)))))))))))))))))))))
>> Why did I know you'll say that? ;)))))))) ROTFL :))))))))))
>
>GG
>Probably because you used it so I would say it.
;)))))) ROTFL :))))))))) Yes, that was sure it. :)))))))))
>> Oh well, that's just one of the problems of being heart-centered, inability
>> to walk freely; being limited to nice, warm things that keep the chakra
>> open... oh well, have fun anyway. :)))))))) LOL :)))))))) Vertical, my dear
>> folks, vertical. Not horizontal. :)
>
>GG
>Do I detect a note of game playing here?
Aren't you taking this a little bit too seriously? ;))
:* :))
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Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 13:00:35 -0800
From: onarresATnospaminreach.com
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com, "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
Cc: "Kundalini heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: challenge
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Gloria and K people,
As I read the post from Danijel using the word fuck (that seems to get some
people a bit riled), I never gave it a second thought. I was reading the
content of the post - seeing the difficulties that had arisen and the way
it was moved along, seeing how he made a transition from one place to
another and the realization of what it's all about... Many people use this
term in their everyday language which doesn't bother me at all, in fact
I've used it myself to make a strong statement when all other words have
failed... I hardly think that the word itself is so sensational - while it
is universal and everyone knows what it means, it also has another meaning,
one of strong expression. What would one say if they were to hear that a
person was sexual intercoursed in the head, wouldn't make much sense - but
if they said he was all fucked up in the head, everyone would know exactly
what was meant. So I leave it to each person's own thought, and how they
react to it... again, that part of the post didn't bother me one iota, as
the word itself had no bearing on the message by Danijel, but rather served
to impart his true intense feelings at the time. One person's opinion.
Light and love dor
>Gloria here:
>I have to tell you that I started this discussion on purpose since it is
such a good pportunity to see the thought forms and emotions connected to
words. It isn't the words, it is the thought, emotion and energy projected
with the words that set them up with meaning. Now, when Christ
>said love ye one another, or love your neighbor as yourself, it certainly
doesn't have the same meaning as using fuck in its place. Those who are
becoming more aware and detached can look at both words, the energies they
move in and the projections that go with them and see quite a different
thing come through. Those who enjoy these frequencies because they are yet
enjoying the energies from the three lower centers will feel different.
This is nothing more then an example of what is and where it comes from.
>
>Those who are working from the higher centers will not feel the same thing
although they will be able to observe and witness to this without getting
upset if they are truly detached. If you are upset it is because you are
in judgement, just step back from it and observe and detach. It is nothing
but a word, and you are giving it power. Just observe and let it go. Then
see if you have learned anything about yourself in the process.
>>
>> A spiritual community should be fluid in order to foster learning
otherwise it accepts only a narrow range of ideas as valid to the
exclusion of those that are controversial. When the community finds itself
clinging to ideals and values they should be challenged again and again.
>> If the community clings to its own self-image, it will stagnate,
exclude the "outsider" and
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 15:59:38 EST
From: RndmOneATnospamaol.com
To: dturinaATnospamusa.net, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: F*** <- censored ;)))
Message-ID: <56f5d126.34df6e40ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-02-09 13:05:27 EST, dturinaATnospamusa.net writes:
<< we'll have to start working on becoming heart centered in order
to become realized. :)))))))))))))))))))) ROTFL :))))))))))))) LMTO
:))))))))))))))
Oh well, have fun, and a lot of nice fluffy white and gentle words. :)))))
>>
Staci answers: <using pink type..... leads to heart center realization!> =)
I couldn't have said it better myself!!!! ROTFL with you!!!!!!
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 16:02:52 -0800
From: Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca>
To: RadiantTchATnospamaol.com
CC: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: challenge
Message-ID: <34DF992C.70ACATnospamsympatico.ca>
RadiantTchATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
> <<snip > Most of all, have a good laugh.
> > You are nowhere near as important as you think you are.
>
> Dear Jason:
> I couldn't agree with you more and yes I am! Without me an entire
> infinity would be lost!
> Mark >>
>
> I SECOND THAT!!!! :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))
>
> <3 BE <3
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 16:12:55 -0800
From: Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca>
To: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
CC: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: LOVE
Message-ID: <34DF9B87.7601ATnospamsympatico.ca>
Dear Daniel and List People:
May I make a small suggestion? Instead of a huge intellectual
discussion centering around a trivial little insignificant world like
FUCK, why not have a discussion about a word that is infinitely more
significant;
LOVE?
I'll start the glowing ball rolling: anybody know what LOVE is?
mark
ge da nop o
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 16:19:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toronto.on.ca>
To: Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospamSYMPATICO.CA>
cc: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>, Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: LOVE
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9802091643.A28366-0100000ATnospamqueen>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Self love is about caring about yourself.
loving others is about caring about others.
Doing it unconditionally is real love.
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 13:31:11 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: onarresATnospaminreach.com, "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>,
"Kundalini heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: challenge
Message-ID: <34DEF70E.1270ATnospamintercomm.com>
Gloria Greco wrote:
>
> Gloria Greco wrote:
> >
> > onarresATnospaminreach.com wrote:
> >
> > Gloria responce:
> > If there is no difference in frequency in vibration use it as your
> > mantra and see where it takes you? And, it isn't the word itself, it is what it attracts?
The purpose in meditation is to enter the silence which means to no
longer be involved in words, thoughts, ultimately these words don't have
power but it is for the people on the way into this that one has to
learn what causes what, cause and effect. To assume that words while in
the process of working through specific centers won't effect people,
this is just not so.
If you have a dream and you notice energies in that dream that are
projections to you, these are thoughts, emotions, etc. To not understand
and learn how to break the illusion is to not know what creates what.
And, the process or the work involved with kundalini and the spiritual
journey is to learn what creates what, and then you have the power to
undo it. A lot of folks here subscribe to the fact that all people know
this, they don't and are very sensitive to words and thoughts and are
thus manipulated by these forces. And while some people seem to enjoy
this, because they find it a past time that is ok for them, there are
others on the list that are not prepared or ready to have these thoughts
and emotions in their face. It is not a game. It doesn't bother me, I
work with it all of the time, but there are others on the list who are
working to find the light in their lives not more of the same
manipulating foreces they are working to break out of.
> > >
> > > Gloria and K people,
> > >
> > > As I read the post from Danijel using the word fuck (that seems to get some
> > > people a bit riled), I never gave it a second thought. I was reading the
> > > content of the post - seeing the difficulties that had arisen and the way
> > > it was moved along, seeing how he made a transition from one place to
> > > another and the realization of what it's all about... Many people use this
> > > term in their everyday language which doesn't bother me at all, in fact
> > > I've used it myself to make a strong statement when all other words have
> > > failed... I hardly think that the word itself is so sensational - while it
> > > is universal and everyone knows what it means, it also has another meaning,
> > > one of strong expression. What would one say if they were to hear that a
> > > person was sexual intercoursed in the head, wouldn't make much sense - but
> > > if they said he was all fucked up in the head, everyone would know exactly
> > > what was meant. So I leave it to each person's own thought, and how they
> > > react to it... again, that part of the post didn't bother me one iota, as
> > > the word itself had no bearing on the message by Danijel, but rather served
> > > to impart his true intense feelings at the time. One person's opinion.
> > > Light and love dor
> > >
> > >
> > > >Gloria here:
> > > >I have to tell you that I started this discussion on purpose since it is
> > > such a good pportunity to see the thought forms and emotions connected to
> > > words. It isn't the words, it is the thought, emotion and energy projected
> > > with the words that set them up with meaning. Now, when Christ
> > > >said love ye one another, or love your neighbor as yourself, it certainly
> > > doesn't have the same meaning as using fuck in its place. Those who are
> > > becoming more aware and detached can look at both words, the energies they
> > > move in and the projections that go with them and see quite a different
> > > thing come through. Those who enjoy these frequencies because they are yet
> > > enjoying the energies from the three lower centers will feel different.
> > > This is nothing more then an example of what is and where it comes from.
> > > >
> > > >Those who are working from the higher centers will not feel the same thing
> > > although they will be able to observe and witness to this without getting
> > > upset if they are truly detached. If you are upset it is because you are
> > > in judgement, just step back from it and observe and detach. It is nothing
> > > but a word, and you are giving it power. Just observe and let it go. Then
> > > see if you have learned anything about yourself in the process.
> > > >>
> > > >> A spiritual community should be fluid in order to foster learning
> > > otherwise it accepts only a narrow range of ideas as valid to the
> > > exclusion of those that are controversial. When the community finds itself
> > > clinging to ideals and values they should be challenged again and again.
> > > >> If the community clings to its own self-image, it will stagnate,
> > > exclude the "outsider" and
> >
> > --
> >
> > Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
> > Gloria Joy Greco
> > e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
> > http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
> > &
> > http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
> > Hope you enjoy them!
>
> --
>
> Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
> Gloria Joy Greco
> e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
> http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
> &
> http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
> Hope you enjoy them!
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 13:35:27 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toronto.on.ca>
CC: Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospamSYMPATICO.CA>,
Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>, Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: LOVE
Message-ID: <34DEF80D.6854ATnospamintercomm.com>
Barbara Shinton wrote:
>
> Self love is about caring about yourself.
>
> loving others is about caring about others.
>
> Doing it unconditionally is real love.
GG
And sometimes unconditional love is going into the issues and walking
through it together.
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 16:46:20 EST
From: RadiantTchATnospamaol.com
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: LOVE
Message-ID: <e8741240.34df792eATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-02-09 16:16:03 EST, you write:
<< Dear Daniel and List People:
May I make a small suggestion? Instead of a huge intellectual
discussion centering around a trivial little insignificant world like
FUCK, why not have a discussion about a word that is infinitely more
significant;
LOVE?
I'll start the glowing ball rolling: anybody know what LOVE is?
mark
ge da nop o >>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hey Mark,
Hmmmmmm.........I thought the discussion was ALL about LOVE and ACCEPTANCE.
Maybe you should ask yourself the same question??? ;-) He who points at
others, ultimately points at self. And that's true for ME too!!
Laughing in lightness and joy,
(these posts have done WONDERS for me today! Thanks ALL!)
Barbara Ellen <3
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 23:26:40 +0100
From: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
To: <gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca>
Cc: <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: LOVE
Message-ID: <01bd35aa$2b98f980$LocalHostATnospamzympho.bluewin.ch>
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>May I make a small suggestion? Instead of a huge intellectual
>discussion centering around a trivial little insignificant world like
>FUCK, why not have a discussion about a word that is infinitely more
>significant;
>
>LOVE?
It's not the word that is significant or insignificant, it is the ideas and
energies you associate with the word. It is your perception created by you.
Imagine that you have been trained since birth that the meanings of the two
words are switched. Love is a horrendous curse word and fuck is a
beautiful, expansive concept. It matters not. In the adulterated words of
Barbara Shinton:
Self fuck is about caring about yourself.
fucking others is about caring about others.
Doing it unconditionally is real fuck.
If you laughed then you have either understood or are enjoying frequencies
from the lower centers (as Gloria Greco puts it).
If you are offended then you have been trained to be offended.
Fuck. Jason.
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 17:33:04 EST
From: QwartzATnospamaol.com
To: onarresATnospaminreach.com, Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: challenge
Message-ID: <4546bedb.34df8423ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-02-09 15:59:03 EST, you (Dor) write:
<< the word itself had no bearing on the message by Danijel, but rather served
to impart his true intense feelings at the time. One person's opinion. >>
Dor, I couldn't agree with you more. And I wrote Danijel and told him
basically the same thing. Words are used to convey and communicate feelings
and ideas. Sometimes during the process of trying to communicate these things,
we use extreme words for intense feelings. And I personally feel that what
Danijel was trying to say in his post was pretty darned intense. Thanks for
bringing this out Dor, you said what I was feeling much better than I could
have said it myself! : )
I will only add..."Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never
hurt me." : D
Blessings
Pam
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 17:36:08 EST
From: RadiantTchATnospamaol.com
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: LOVE
Message-ID: <7b30a3fc.34df84dbATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-02-09 17:30:06 EST, you write:
<< It's not the word that is significant or insignificant, it is the ideas and
energies you associate with the word. It is your perception created by you.
Imagine that you have been trained since birth that the meanings of the two
words are switched. Love is a horrendous curse word and fuck is a
beautiful, expansive concept. It matters not. In the adulterated words of
Barbara Shinton:
Self fuck is about caring about yourself.
fucking others is about caring about others.
Doing it unconditionally is real fuck.
If you laughed then you have either understood or are enjoying frequencies
from the lower centers (as Gloria Greco puts it).
If you are offended then you have been trained to be offended.
Fuck. Jason. >>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ANOTHER ONE!!!! HOW MUCH LAUGHTER AND JOY CAN I ACCEPT TODAY???!!!!!!
LOVING IT!!!!!
<3 BE <3
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 23:44:36 +0100
From: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
To: <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>, <onarresATnospaminreach.com>,
"Kundalini heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: challenge
Message-ID: <01bd35ac$4c5dbaa0$LocalHostATnospamzympho.bluewin.ch>
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Gloria Greco wrote:
> To not understand
> and learn how to break the illusion is to not know what creates what.
> And, the process or the work involved with kundalini and the spiritual
> journey is to learn what creates what, and then you have the power to
> undo it. A lot of folks here subscribe to the fact that all people know
> this, they don't and are very sensitive to words and thoughts and are
> thus manipulated by these forces. And while some people seem to enjoy
> this, because they find it a past time that is ok for them, there are
> others on the list that are not prepared or ready to have these thoughts
> and emotions in their face. It is not a game. It doesn't bother me, I
> work with it all of the time, but there are others on the list who are
> working to find the light in their lives not more of the same
> manipulating foreces they are working to break out of.
You are absolutely right. Most people are just dying to be offended. In
fact, they go around seeking opportunities to take offense.
But perhaps the worst thing we can do for the offended is to make apologies.
Apologies do not help them break out of the manipulating forces at work on
them from within. Only by bringing the thoughts and emotions to the surface
as a direct challenge can the offended face the challenge and learn what
creates what and gain the power to undo it.
Power to the offended.
Love. Jason.
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 17:33:33 EST
From: RadiantTchATnospamaol.com
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Vibration
Message-ID: <104883f2.34df843fATnospamaol.com>
Gloria, and all,
My belief about differing vibrations is this: the perception of differing
frequencies becomes nonexistent in a state of loving embracement of all.
Whether the frequencies actually do become ONE (as in one tuning fork tuning
another) or whether it's just the perception of the individual
loving/embracing/observing, I don't know. It doesn't matter. Whether other
people see/feel things the way I do is a moot point - it only matters the way
*I* see/feel, thereby creating the world *I* live in.
If the f*** word is really so vibrationally low, how come I've gotten loads of
fantastic energy about its discussion today? I've had a blast, and had many
episodes of laughing out loud. To me, that's embracement of all, that's
creating my world with love so that that is what I experience. Very high
vibrations, very light, very joyful.
So, there are no labels, no categories, no frequencies, actually - only the
perception of the observer/seer/feeler, IMO. You create what you want.
Everything is what it IS. How would you RATHER feel about it, see it?
(Rhetorical question)
Thank you for your participation in my joy today!!! :-)
Love,
Barbara Ellen
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 17:59:04 -0800
From: Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca>
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
CC: Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toronto.on.ca>,
Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>, Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: REAL LOVE
Message-ID: <34DFB412.4449ATnospamsympatico.ca>
Gloria Greco wrote:
>
> Barbara Shinton wrote:
> >
> > Self love is about caring about yourself.
> >
> > loving others is about caring about others.
> >
> > Doing it unconditionally is real love.
>
> GG
> And sometimes unconditional love is going into the issues and walking
> through it together.
>
> --
>
> Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
> Gloria Joy Greco
>
Dear All: From my point on the wheel REAL LOVE exists regardless of
conditions. Take a look in the mirror and smile. What do you see? The
new subject of discussion?
Mark
ge da
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 18:11:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toronto.on.ca>
To: RadiantTchATnospamaol.com
cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: LOVE
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9802091843.C4510-0100000ATnospamqueen>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Funny.
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 18:13:32 -0500 (EST)
From: Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toronto.on.ca>
To: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
cc: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com, onarresATnospaminreach.com,
"Kundalini heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: challenge
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9802091803.D4510-0100000ATnospamqueen>
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And what book did you get that wisdom from?
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 17:18:27 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Democracy, etc.
Message-Id: <l03130304b1053e662e5fATnospam[126.0.0.108]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Antoine wrote:
>I'm glad i am not in Angelique "pants".
She probably is too! (It would be really really tough to get the zipper
zipped, for one thing) ;-P
sincerely,
amckeon
(grateful for the chance to enjoy a silly moment)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 18:16:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toronto.on.ca>
To: Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca>
cc: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com, Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>,
Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: REAL LOVE
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9802091814.E4510-0100000ATnospamqueen>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Not everyone can look in the mirror and see love..
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 17:31:29 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: Anahata and the Heart
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Kurt wrote:
>If I were to try to build a model from what I have read, been taught and
>experiences it is that true insight can come from any cakra. A Shaivite,
>Swami Nityananda pointed out that the Self can be realized anywhere and has
>no locality at the heart. Buddhists have taught me that the non-duality of
>bliss and emptiness can be contemplated at any center.
Thank you for that. Please feel free to repeat it as often as you deem
necessary :)
Yes!
amckeon
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 15:59:56 -0800
From: iri <iriATnospamivyrealty.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: [Fwd: Re: <- censored ;)))]
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One definition of the word fuck stems from old english law courts. It
supposedly was a n abbreviation used by the law clerks when submitting the
charge to the judge for a ruling as to the appropriate punishment....The
abbreviation was
F.U.C.K. and it stood for the words For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge...an
abbreviation used in the charge for prostitution.....
Someone once said fuck came from old German...ficken (Spelling?) which means
something similar to our interpretation when we use fuck in the context it
is used (as street language)
Me, I prefer the first definition as an explanation.
now as for Love that my dear list members is another thing entirely... I
suspect we all know about Love...and its many different forms of expression...
Namaste Ashtu and Mangalum
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Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 19:53:07 -0800
From: Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca>
To: Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toronto.on.ca>
CC: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com, Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>,
Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: REAL LOVE
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Barbara Shinton wrote:
>
> Not everyone can look in the mirror and see love..
Dear Barbara:
They should!
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