1998/02/07 10:07
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #106
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 106
Today's Topics:
Heavy Thinkers.. [ FrankuskkaATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Heavy Thinkers.. [ RadiantTchATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Bozo Juretic running wild :) [ Bozo Juretic <bjureticATnospampop.netaddre ]
Re: Bozo Juretic running wild :) [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> ]
Re: Bozo Juretic running wild :) [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Re: Bozo Juretic running wild :) [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> ]
Re: Democracy, Leadership. [ "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch ]
Re: Democracy, Leadership and execut [ Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ]
http://www.execpc.com/~libra/kund/wh [ ce269ATnospamtorfree.net (Barbara Shinton) ]
Re: Bozo Juretic running wild :) [ Bozo Juretic <bjureticATnospampop.netaddre ]
ONE DAY [ "Ed Arrons" <eeaATnospamaug.com> ]
Re: Democracy, Leadership. [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
Re: Democracy, Leadership. [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> ]
Re: Announcement - Goddess Castle Pr [ Gaurav Asthana <gauravATnospamlw1.vsnl.net ]
Re: Democracy [ Gaurav Asthana <gauravATnospamlw1.vsnl.net ]
RE: Leadership/Tough Decisions [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Re: ONE DAY [ Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com> ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Rahul nandan <gauravATnospamlw1.vsnl.net.i ]
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 11:30:08 EST
From: FrankuskkaATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Heavy Thinkers..
Message-ID: <56ec633a.34db3a93ATnospamaol.com>
Just relax and enjoy this... its the lighter side....
Are YOU a problem thinker?
It started out innocently enough. I began to think at parties now and then to
loosen up. Inevitably though, one thought led to another, and soon I was more
than just a social thinker.
I began to think alone - "to relax," I told myself - but I knew it wasn't
true. Thinking became more and more important to me, and finally I was
thinking all the time.
I began to think on the job. I knew that thinking and employment don't mix,
but I couldn't stop myself. I began to avoid friends at lunchtime so I could
read Thoreau and Kafka. I would return to the office dizzied and confused,
asking, "What is it exactly we are doing
here?"
Things weren't going so great at home either. One evening I had turned off
the TV and asked my wife about the meaning of life. She spent that night at
her mother's.
I soon had a reputation as a heavy thinker. One day the boss called me in.
He said, "Skippy, I like you, and it hurts me to say this, but your thinking
has become a real problem. If you don't stop thinking on the job, you'll have
to find another job." This gave me a lot to think about.
I came home early after my conversation with the boss. "Honey," I confessed,
"I've been thinking..." "I know you've been thinking," she said, "and I want a
divorce!"
"But Honey, surely it's not that serious." "It is serious," she said, lower
lip aquiver. "You think as much as college professors, and college professors
don't make any money, so if you keep on thinking we won't have any money!"
"That's a faulty syllogism," I said impatiently, and she began to cry. I'd had
enough. "I'm going to the library," I snarled as I stomped out the door. I
headed for the library, in the mood for some Nietzsche, with NPR on the radio.
I roared into the parking lot and ran up to the big glass doors... they didn't
open. The library was closed.
To this day, I believe that a Higher Power was looking out for me that night.
As I sank to the ground clawing at the unfeeling glass, whimpering for
Zarathustra, a poster caught my eye. "Friend, is heavy thinking ruining your
life?" it asked. You probably recognize that line. It comes from the standard
Thinker's Anonymous poster. Which is why I am what I am today: a recovering
thinker. I never miss a TA meeting. At each meeting we watch a non-
educational video; last week it was "Porky's." Then we share experiences
about how we avoided thinking since the last meeting.
I still have my job, and things are a lot better at home. Life just seemed...
easier, somehow, as soon as I stopped thinking.
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 14:03:14 EST
From: RadiantTchATnospamaol.com
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Heavy Thinkers..
Message-ID: <a4b64b0.34db5e74ATnospamaol.com>
HA!!! A RIOT!!! Do I see myself in there????????? You BETCHA!
Laughing at/with herself,
<3 Barbara Ellen <3
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<< Just relax and enjoy this... its the lighter side....
Are YOU a problem thinker?
It started out innocently enough. I began to think at parties now and then to
loosen up. Inevitably though, one thought led to another, and soon I was more
than just a social thinker. <long snip.......>
I still have my job, and things are a lot better at home. Life just
seemed...
easier, somehow, as soon as I stopped thinking. >>
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 20:11:48 +0100
From: Bozo Juretic <bjureticATnospampop.netaddress.usa.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Bozo Juretic running wild :)
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At 11:55 1998.02.06 +0100, Danijel Turina wrote:
Hi Danijel! :) ;) Hello all! :)
First off all i would like to say that i really did it in my
last post under alias "Sainanda" (pih! ;))...yea, that happens
when your Ego(mine called "Sainanda", or "Ibrica" ;), with
the strong _E_ ;)) gets pumped up ... :( ;))) Sorry guys! :)
Sorry for using you as my ego (the big one) "exhaust valve" ;) :))
... OK, after a HOT brake in i think that the best thing i could
do right now is to keep my (big!)mouth shut ... ;)
>things were not ready, I can't really tell. But now, since Bozo got his
>sorry ass here, I felt it was a good idea to join. :)
;))))))
>whatsoever. And that is just the beginning of the start. ;))) Oh well, here
>I go talking too much on a first date. ;)))))
;))))))))))))
ps.
Sorry guys for wasting your bandwidth, but i think this is something i had
to do. :)
Huggin´ everyone here! :)
Bye guys! :)))
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Sainanda
E-mail: sainandaATnospamusa.net
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 20:47:41 +0100
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Bozo Juretic running wild :)
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980206204741.00964220ATnospampop.netaddress.com>
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>Hi Danijel! :) ;) Hello all! :)
:)
>First off all i would like to say that i really did it in my
>last post under alias "Sainanda" (pih! ;))...yea, that happens
>when your Ego(mine called "Sainanda", or "Ibrica" ;), with
>the strong _E_ ;)) gets pumped up ... :( ;))) Sorry guys! :)
Of course, Ibrica is a small cro_kundalini-l private joke: that's how Fritz
has named the tiny red devil sitting on his shoulder telling him the
"reasonable" thing to do. :)))))
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E-mail : dturinaATnospamusa.net
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 12:11:39 PST
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, bjureticATnospampop.netaddress.usa.net
Subject: Re: Bozo Juretic running wild :)
Message-ID: <19980206201151.7841.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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>
>At 11:55 1998.02.06 +0100, Danijel Turina wrote:
>
>Hi Danijel! :) ;) Hello all! :)
>
>
>First off all i would like to say that i really did it in my=20
>last post under alias "Sainanda" (pih! ;))...yea, that happens=20
>when your Ego(mine called "Sainanda", or "Ibrica" ;), with=20
>the strong _E_ ;)) gets pumped up ... :( ;))) Sorry guys! :)
>
>Sorry for using you as my ego (the big one) "exhaust valve" ;) :))
>
>... OK, after a HOT brake in i think that the best thing i could
>do right now is to keep my (big!)mouth shut ... ;)
G. LEE here:
OH????? NO NO NO TALK to US!!!!
>>things were not ready, I can't really tell. But now, since Bozo got
his
>>sorry ass here, I felt it was a good idea to join. :)
>
HOORAY!!! Fresh air from the wilderness blows into the room!!! Some wild
and crazy guys who even say "Bozo got his sorry ass here"!!!!
I LOVE IT!!!!! DID I hear laughter even?? YES!!! OH, PULEASE take me on
a second date...let's go dancing.., get funky.. whatever..take me to
your party!!!! You can see we weren't having much fun here, yet??
TALK to me, be silly..whatever.. WELCOME!!!! and BIG HUGS back to you
all..I'll even throw an *Ego Extravaganze Evening* party in your
honor..everyone wear your favorite DISGUISE!!! Thinking what to wear for
a costume????... start the music...!!!!
Gloria Lee
Lets waste some bandwith together!!!
>
>>whatsoever. And that is just the beginning of the start. ;))) Oh well,
h=
>ere
>>I go talking too much on a first date. ;)))))
>
>;))))))))))))
>
>
>ps.
>Sorry guys for wasting your bandwidth, but i think this is something i
ha=
>d
>to do. :)
>
>
>
>Huggin=92 everyone here! :)
>
>Bye guys! :)))
>
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Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 21:45:36 +0100
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Bozo Juretic running wild :)
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980206214536.00a55be0ATnospampop.netaddress.com>
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Yo Gloria! (or was it Glo? ;)
At 12:11 1998.02.06 PST, you wrote:
>>... OK, after a HOT brake in i think that the best thing i could
>>do right now is to keep my (big!)mouth shut ... ;)
> G. LEE here:
>
>OH????? NO NO NO TALK to US!!!!
Well, you don't know the guy. ;))) Put your seatbelt on, coz we're on a
roller-coaster, babe! ;))))
>>>things were not ready, I can't really tell. But now, since Bozo got
>>>his sorry ass here, I felt it was a good idea to join. :)
>>
>
>HOORAY!!! Fresh air from the wilderness blows into the room!!! Some wild
>and crazy guys who even say "Bozo got his sorry ass here"!!!!
>I LOVE IT!!!!! DID I hear laughter even?? YES!!! OH, PULEASE take me on
Was it THAT bad until now? ;))) Oh well, I knew I should have read all
those digests. :)) Too much mail, not enough time, blah! :)))
>a second date...let's go dancing.., get funky.. whatever..take me to
>your party!!!! You can see we weren't having much fun here, yet??
Wow, I should have come earlier! ;)))
> TALK to me, be silly..whatever.. WELCOME!!!!
Thanks, thanks, I'll start blushing. ;)
>and BIG HUGS back to you
>all..I'll even throw an *Ego Extravaganze Evening* party in your
>honor..everyone wear your favorite DISGUISE!!! Thinking what to wear for
>a costume????... start the music...!!!!
Now I _know_ I should have done this earlier. :)))) :** :))
Oh well, now that you all recover from the loss of our beloved pal Dieter,
it ain't right to let you stay on your own, all depressed and pathetic. ;>>
;)))))
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E-mail : dturinaATnospamusa.net
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 00:34:39 +0100
From: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, <ks-listATnospamnbn.com>,
"Mystress Angelique Serpent" <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Subject: Re: Democracy, Leadership.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>; ks-listATnospamnbn.com
<ks-listATnospamnbn.com>
Date: Thursday, 05 February, 1998 22:45 PM
Subject: Democracy, Leadership.
>
> To Dieter:
> Yesterday you were warned, which only provoked you to more excesses.
> This will be the last post from K.list you will recieve, as I am
>unsubbing you as soon as this is sent. When I took over this list, and the
>bill that goes with it, I got an email address that says I am list owner. I
>do not usually think of myself "owning" this cyberspace, ... but legally, I
>do.
> Any further posts to K.list from you will be considered "trespassing",
>and complaints will be sent to your server, with the likely result that
>they will revoke your service. I imagine that would be very disappointing
>to your children.
LOL!
A demonstration of your unconditional love and guru status?
He was not attracted here by Goddess for the higher good of the list?
This list, this "community" is your work of art.
As a work of art, it naturally shows your humanity and folly.
Sometimes beautiful.
Sometimes enlightening.
Sometimes disgusting and exclusionary.
These words are your property.
Forgive me my trespasses............
Fart,
Jason.
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 21:23:44 -0500
From: Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Democracy, Leadership and execution
Message-ID: <34DBC5B0.DB5C1850ATnospamconcentric.net>
Hi Jason and all,
I'm glad i am not in Angelique "pants". I would be quite a burden to my small me
to take such a decision about Dieter for the all list. She is in a position
where she must some time take decision, being the one in charge of running this
list. I respect her very much for her hard work.
As for saying if the decision she took, and some of us wanted taken, others not
and others did not care about. Time only will tell if it was good or not for
Dieter and us. I pray and will pray for that Dieter and i learn the most from
this.
This make me think about the thread about execution. Is it so different?
As for the execution of this woman in texas, and many others people, and all
those wars going in the world right now... some want them, some don't, some just
don't care other care but won't move a finger to do a thing.
I do believe that if we find one person guilty in this world of any crime, than
we are all guilty and responsible in some way.
This said, it would be interesting to discuss the decision making process in a k
active society. What will we have spychic wars? At deep peace we have no idea
about? I don't really know, but think it would be interesting to look a bit to
whats the next step we can take towards what we want deep down inside. Not only
on this virtual list, but in the 3D world also.
Antoine
--
May the God of light grant to us sight! May the heavenly peaks grant to us
sight! May God the creator grant to us sight! Give sight to our eyes and sight
to our bodies that we may see. May we see the world at a single glance and in
all its details.
Rig Veda 10.158.3-4, Vedic Experience p. 340-341
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 23:29:21 -0500 (EST)
From: ce269ATnospamtorfree.net (Barbara Shinton)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: ce269ATnospamtorfree.net
Subject: http://www.execpc.com/~libra/kund/whatsnew.html
Message-Id: <m0y11tJ-0000i8CATnospamqueen.torfree.net>
Can you tell me anything about kundalini rising and menopause?
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 22:30:26 +0100
From: Bozo Juretic <bjureticATnospampop.netaddress.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Bozo Juretic running wild :)
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980206223026.007e7910ATnospampop.netaddress.com>
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At 21:45 1998.02.06 +0100, Danijel Turina wrote:
Ho, ho!!! ;))))
>>>... OK, after a HOT brake in i think that the best thing i could
>>>do right now is to keep my (big!)mouth shut ... ;)
>> G. LEE here:
>>OH????? NO NO NO TALK to US!!!!
You asked for it ;) ...BTW, we have 4.75 MB bandwidth in 2 months, so ...
prepare your HDDs for us ;)))))
>Well, you don't know the guy. ;))) Put your seatbelt on, coz we're on a
>roller-coaster, babe! ;))))
;)))))))))))
>>HOORAY!!! Fresh air from the wilderness blows into the room!!! Some wild
>>and crazy guys who even say "Bozo got his sorry ass here"!!!!
Wild and crazy? ;)))) Very good! :) Hug back to you! :)))
>>I LOVE IT!!!!! DID I hear laughter even?? YES!!! OH, PULEASE take me on
We got that allright :))) Believe me, every day is rolling on
the floor laughing day with these maniacs around :))) ;)
>>a second date...let's go dancing.., get funky.. whatever ..take me to
>>your party!!!! You can see we weren't having much fun here, yet??
>> TALK to me, be silly..whatever.. WELCOME!!!!
Thanks! :)))
>Thanks, thanks, I'll start blushing. ;)
;))))))
>>and BIG HUGS back to you
>>all..I'll even throw an *Ego Extravaganze Evening* party in your
>>honor..everyone wear your favorite DISGUISE!!! Thinking what to wear for
>>a costume????... start the music...!!!!
Am I invited? :)) Let´s dance! Put on your red shoes and lets dance !
:)))))) ;)))
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Bozo Juretic
E-mail: bjureticATnospamusa.net
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 06:05:48 -0500
From: "Ed Arrons" <eeaATnospamaug.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: ONE DAY
Message-Id: <199802071107.GAA18543ATnospamsandia.aug.com>
One day I will draw in a great, deep breath of PURE ESSENCE and breathe
out the remainder of the *I* that would SECRETLY judge, discriminate, and
exclude.
E.
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 18:43:38
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, <ks-listATnospamnbn.com>
Subject: Re: Democracy, Leadership.
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980206184338.0a1f8ee0ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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At 00:34 07/02/98 +0100, Jason S. White wrote:
>LOL!
>A demonstration of your unconditional love and guru status?
>He was not attracted here by Goddess for the higher good of the list?
>This list, this "community" is your work of art.
>As a work of art, it naturally shows your humanity and folly.
>Sometimes beautiful.
>Sometimes enlightening.
>Sometimes disgusting and exclusionary.
>
>These words are your property.
>Forgive me my trespasses............
>
>Fart,
>Jason.
>
Yes. Precisely so. I accept your judgements, and thankyou for seeing me
so clearly.
I accept the Karma, when it comes, if there is karma to be had.
I accept that I may be judgmental and selfish. I accept that my best
intentions, may be only the folly of my ego playing games. I accept that I
am human, and if I had perfected the unconditionality of my love, I would
have ascended by now. Perhaps I already have, and am too foolish to see the
difference.
I accept that sometimes the kindest gift of unconditional love can be a
slap upside da head to calm a hysterical person. I accept that there are
folks on this planet, who are so numbed, that they need to see bruises, to
know that they have been touched by another human being.
I accept that each person has thier own language, and if I wish to be
heard, I must speak of christ to the christian, and legalese to the
dogmatically ridgid.
Love, is All that Is, and it comes in shapes that are beautiful and
others that have a terrible beauty.. creation and destruction both, dark
and light.
Forgive me my trespass on your ideals of leadership. I surrender to my
Tao.
Blessings, Mystress.
>
>
>
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
:D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
I would rather live in a world where my life is surrounded by mystery
than live in a world so small that my mind could comprehend it.
-- Harry Emerson Fosdick
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 13:19:00 +0100
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Democracy, Leadership.
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980207131900.0093c270ATnospampop.netaddress.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi Angelique! :)
At 18:43 1998.02.06, you wrote:
>intentions, may be only the folly of my ego playing games. I accept that I
>am human, and if I had perfected the unconditionality of my love, I would
>have ascended by now.
Please, don't even think about it, you're too much fun to have around! :))
:*** :)))
>Perhaps I already have, and am too foolish to see the
>difference.
;))))) Maybe you've already ascended, saw that there was no fun and
descended again? ;))) That's what I'm currently working on, descension.
Tell me, what's more of a challenge, leaving the matter, or grounding and
expressing the Divine? ;) So no more ascension stuff please, that's for the
kids to play with. :)
> I accept that sometimes the kindest gift of unconditional love can be a
>slap upside da head to calm a hysterical person. I accept that there are
>folks on this planet, who are so numbed, that they need to see bruises, to
>know that they have been touched by another human being.
> I accept that each person has thier own language, and if I wish to be
>heard, I must speak of christ to the christian, and legalese to the
>dogmatically ridgid.
> Love, is All that Is, and it comes in shapes that are beautiful and
>others that have a terrible beauty.. creation and destruction both, dark
>and light.
My kind of girl. :)) **hug** :)))
Stay cool! :)))
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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 20:02:27 +0000 (GMT)
From: Gaurav Asthana <gauravATnospamlw1.vsnl.net.in>
To: Robert Bristow <robertATnospambristow.demon.co.uk>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Announcement - Goddess Castle Project
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Visit us at : members.tripod.com/~powerbuilder/index-3.html
members.tripod.com/~powerbuilder/index-4.html
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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 21:41:09 +0000 (GMT)
From: Gaurav Asthana <gauravATnospamlw1.vsnl.net.in>
To: Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
Cc: "d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu" <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au>,
"kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Democracy
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Jargons of metaphysics and claim of spirituality are thin covers to
conceal the utter confusion and idiocy regarding the basic concepts of
kundalini.Overlengthy exhortations symbolize suppression of some inherent
psychological problem.
Antoine,your opinion is very right and timely.I
fully agree with it.This list should not be manipulated for personal
reasons.
On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Antoine wrote:
I vote for Dieter to be taken off this list.
Please add your name at the end of this post if you think your finger is tired of
deleting is post, even after giving him a chance.
Antoine
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 08:19:39 PST
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: zymphtATnospambluewin.ch, mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: Leadership/Tough Decisions
Message-ID: <19980207161943.5565.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
RE:
>At 00:34 07/02/98 +0100, Jason S. White wrote:
>>LOL!
>>A demonstration of your unconditional love and guru status?
>>He was not attracted here by Goddess for the higher good of the list?
Gloria Lee: Who said any of this was supposed to be permanent???WE have
experienced Dieter and he us...this has served many invisible purposes.
For whatever reasons..(are we really expected to know even??) If we can
only *see* the divine as *perfection*..well, Jason..
you still have a bit to learn here too...When you can see the perfection
shining through our all-too-human frailties..you will know that one
reason we are counselled not to judge is simply the sheer difficulty of
knowing enough to do so. Whatever your reaction here is about for
you...find some lesson about perfection and expectations and ideals.
Anyone who has ever been a mother knows how impossible it is to appear
fair to all your children at once. How many children are on THIS list???
What's a mother to do??
>>This list, this "community" is your work of art.
>>As a work of art, it naturally shows your humanity and folly.
>>Sometimes beautiful.
>>Sometimes enlightening.
>>Sometimes disgusting and exclusionary.
>>
>>These words are your property.
>>Forgive me my trespasses............
>>
>>Fart,
>>Jason.
>>
OH>>>BTW>>Part of the "work of art" here is that its a work in
progress...you got your paintbrush?? Done yet?? Care to have your little
corner of the big picture *evaluated*??? Yikes!!!
I do not mind sharing that the Dieter issue reminded me of some really,
really tough ethical dilemma's.. like I have been in a few myself..one
time after many months of working with these 3, 16 yr old guys, as
teacher of the Alternative School..knowing they were vilotating
probation, heavy into drinking and drugs, and back to stealing cars..
(trust me to skip the details of all I did daily to try to help
them)..it eventually seemed necessary to me to turn this situation and
what I knew over to the police and let them handle it. This eventually
led to the brother of one my students who was not just fencing their
stolen cars, but part of a major drug gang...so, nothing was done about
my "students" while they spent months going after the bigger fish...the
implications of all this karma playing out is more than I can begin to
sort out... it was tough enough living thru it.
So, Jason...just try to keep in mind how complex decisions can seem when
you really think about *everything* involved. There's always waaay more
than we know, let alone control. Try to listen to what Angelique said
back to you..ok?? With love, Gloria Lee
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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 08:27:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com>
To: "Ed Arrons" <eeaATnospamaug.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: ONE DAY
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At 06:05 AM 2/7/98 -0500, you wrote:
>One day I will draw in a great, deep breath of PURE ESSENCE and breathe
>out the remainder of the *I* that would SECRETLY judge, discriminate, and
>exclude.
>
>E.
And any other smallnesses which intrude between ******and me. I'm with you, Ed.
Blythe
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 07:07:09 -1000 (HST)
From: Rahul nandan <gauravATnospamlw1.vsnl.net.in>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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its agreed that intellect is a poor guide in kundalini matters.Its what you can sense feel and even imagine but cant explain.its like currents flowing in various parts of the body but not all the time.quite often utter weakness takes over.however a feeling stays firmly always that you are improving and one day your faculties would be in your command.that you would be master of yourself.that is precisely the goal of K-activation.
Rahul nandan
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