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kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #94


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 94

Today's Topics:
  Shaktipat in Portland (was Zendo Lis [ Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley ]
  wooden eyes [ Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospams ]
  RE: Help! (2) [ Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley ]
  Shaktipat in Portland [ AfperryATnospamaol.com ]
  LORD MICHAEL ON THE PURPOSE OF CANCE [<ATnospampi ]
  Re: Hi George [ George Nistor <GNistorATnospammail.dntis.r ]
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ rahul nandan <gauravATnospamlw1.vsnl.net.i ]
  Shaktipat in Portland [ AfperryATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: evolution [ Arthur Marcinek <yu166105ATnospamyorku.ca> ]
  straying synchronicity [ chelseaATnospamsuperaje.com (Dominic & Mau ]
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 22:16:28 -0800
From: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
To: "'jocelyn.duquetteATnospamexgate.tek.com'" <jocelyn.duquetteATnospamexgate.tek.com>
Cc: "'kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Shaktipat in Portland (was Zendo Listserve)
Message-ID: <01BD3028.35B6F610.keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>

-----Original Message-----
From: jocelyn.duquetteATnospamexgate.tek.com [SMTP:jocelyn.duquetteATnospamexgate.tek.com]
Sent: Monday, February 02, 1998 12:54 PM
To: hlutharATnospambryant.edu; dorf01ATnospammail.win.org
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: RE: Zendo Listserve

Is there anyone who would know someone with whom I could work to receive
Shaktipat. I live around Portland Oregon.
I would encourage you to meet Swami Chetanananda. He is in Portland and his web page is:
http://www.europa.com/~ni/
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 01:27:55 -0800
From: Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca>
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: wooden eyes
Message-ID: <34D6E31B.ED4ATnospamsympatico.ca>

Gloria Greco wrote:
>
> Mark S. Waind wrote:
> >
> > Dear Fellow Seekers:
> >
> > I am in need of some guidance.
> >
> > Presently, my third eye chakra in my forehead is opening. I am
> > experiencing a great deal of discomfort with my eyes. The same burning
> > numbness that I experienced in my chest and throat when they opened,
> > is now in my eyes. The discomfort is almost unbearable. My eyes feel
> > like they are made of wood. My left eye is swollen almost shut! I
> > believe this is negative energy surfacing and leaving never to return.
> >
> > As all this is happening my forehead feels as if it is glowing. Are
> > any suggestions as to what I could do to relieve the discomfort? I
> > realize I just have to ride this out regardless. I feel that this is
> > my Shamacic initiatory sickness; that my eyes are dying and are to be
> > reborn anew with new vitality, purpose and abilities.
> >
> > Thanks for letting me sound off.
> >
> > Most sincerely,
> >
> > Mark
> > Ge Da
>
> Mark,
> Hi, is this in meditation or all the time?
> Can you move the energy out of that center getting it focused more in
> the heart center? If the third eye is playing off of the solar plexus
> you are going to have more of that lower frequency energy coming in,
> when you surrender to God always working from the invisible heart you
> will also be lifted in such a way that even if this is going on you will
> be standing outside of it watching and then it isn't happening to you.
> The fact that you identify with it tells me your in your solar plexus.
> GG
> --
>Dear Gloria: Thankyou for responding to my plea. The pain was so unbearable that it never even crossed my mind regarding the solar plexus.
My dilema has subsided for now. I am going through some very big changes
at present. The K energy is extremely strong. It appears to come in
spurts. Electricity is flashing all over my body. All energy centers
within me seem to be humming; my feet, hands, tail bone, chest, jawline,
forehead, crown. I almost feel drugged. God keeps giving me just what I
am able to handle; nothing more. I am holding myself in love, strength,
peace and understanding. I have made a promise to MYSELF and ALL THAT IS
that I will ride the snake to where the one light shines. I shall endure
whatever I must to bloom like the flower.

Thankyou
Peace
Mark
Ge Da
>
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 22:54:54 -0800
From: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
To: "'gwen smythe'" <gsmtheATnospamyahoo.com>,
 "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com"
  <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Cc: "'keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu'" <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
Subject: RE: Help! (2)
Message-ID: <01BD302D.9459B310.keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>

Gwen says: (2)

Hi,
My experience began about two years ago, during my first year at
university. I had been under a lot of stress at school and I began to
suffer from anxiety.

The kundalini experiences started a few months later, my anxiety had
gotten worse and my the job I had for the summer and my living
situation were both
very stressful and I wound up suppressing a lot of emotions and
energy. These triggered panic attacks and in turn I think it might
have triggered the kundalini.
Kurt says:

One way of looking at this is that the kundalini is the energy at the basis
of our unconscious (in the Jungian sense). Usually we repress this as we
cannot deal with the material that builds up. But when we are stressed we
lose our ability to hold it back any further because we don't have the
extra energy- so it comes spilling out. Spoken of in these terms it is
nearly indistinguishable from a psychotic outbreak - with which kundalini
awakening is sometimes confused.

I am empathic and clairvoyant, and I've always been capable of feeling
situations happening far away, when I first discovered these talents
I didn't
know how to cope with them or all the emotions that came with them,
and didn't know anything about how to use them properly or about
grounding or protecting myself. They didn't seemed to fit in anywhere
and I suppressed and ignored them, because I found them scary and I
didn't want to hear about things that would happen in the future.

The scary part for me (kundalini) is not knowing how to handle all the
energy and emotions that come up. I get tangled in situations
emotionally or psychically
without meaning to, and I have also had experiences with telekensis,
all of them were really violent and unexpected, and I coped by trying
to block energy to
protect people around me or to redirect it towards myself, the ground
or objects so that no one wouldn't get hurt.
Extreme sensitivity is a common kundalini experience.
As a result I feel very split off from but also very connected to
people around me. It's probably in a terribly unhealthy way, it is
hard to come back to my body or to be with my own energy in an honest
or
safe way and I find it's very easy to lose focus of who I am and next
to impossible to form any sort of boundaries. Also I've found because
this whole situation doesn't fit in with anything around me, I often
end up trying to hide it from other people or suppress it, or cling on
to them for dear life because I never know what is going to happen next.

I'm not sure if anyone else has had any experiences like this, or how
to deal with excess energy or protect people around you. Or how to
handle telekenisis.

The only things I've found that helped me to stay sane, are trying to
keep focus and to keep moving, but in the back of my mind I know I
haven't dealt with any
of the underlying problems or emotions and fears and trying to stuff
everything back inside or moving forward with no resolution is
overwhelming.
I would encourage you to get rid of the notion that ``you'' (i.e. your ego)
is supposed to handle things and deal with problems and make yourself
perfect and all that .

Each time I get a rise in energy it feels like I've left
my own life and boundaries and I'm being projected towards something
I'm totally unable to handle.

I've tried grounding, shielding and meditation but I can't visualize
very well, and my life is in a state of change a lot, so from one day
to the next it's not
terribly consistant. I haven't been able to set up a regular practice
and I'm kind of scared of doing it on my own.
I think that there is nothing better than finding an authentic teacher. I
list many on the web pages:
http://www.execpc.com/~libra/kund/kundalini-faq.html - follow the links
around.
After that other energetic healing work may help - good Qi Gong teachers
(equally rare) can help a lot.
I also don't know anything about how to deal with ghosts or harmful
energies, so I'm scared to open up to my psychic skills abilities
again, because
I don't know what is going to happen or how I would deal with anymore
emergencies.

I understand how dangerous spiritual awakening can be, from these
experiences, without having guidence or protection, or being able to
speak to someone or having them watch over your progress.

My symptoms: migraine/splitting headaches, constant pain in inner arms
from armpit to elbow, pressure or pain in the centre of my forhead and
upper nose, pain in throat area on my right side under my chin, pain
in the back of my neck right below my skull, rushing of energy between
spine and top of head, a lot of dizzy spells, full of energy, unable
to sleep or eat (never hungry), vivid nightmares, bringing up
fragments of past lives, picking up energy or thoughts from people
around me, short circuting appliances, esp. the computer, television
and the radio, mood swings and disorientation, flooded with a lot of
psychic/spiritual energy and ringing in the ears.
It's good to acknowledge your abilities. It's better to acknowledge your
ordinariness. You don't want to deny your experience - but you don't want
to dwell or obsess about it either. Walk the tightrope without
embellishment or denial. If you cannot find a teacher I would also
encourage you to
a) eat a nourishing diet - this is no time to finicky about food
b) get regular exercise
c) get lots of rest - even if it is fitful
d) Spend time in nature - especially cool places. Hug a tree. Dig in the
earth.. Pile rocks up.
e) Take deep deep breaths and exhale through your feet. Sink into the earth
(not very deep - just 6 inches or so).
f) Don't THINK about yourself -dwell in the universe - don't THINK about
YOUR energy FEEL the universal energy. Stay out of your head and center
yourself at your navel.
I hope this doesn't make me sound as unstable and insane as it reads,

Jen
Jen I assure you that each and every one of us who has suffered through a
challenging kundalini awakening sends our love and our wishes for your safe
and gentle unfolding. Let me also assure you that many people on this list
have suffered equally intensely. For nearly six months of my life (in my
second year of college - perhaps just like you) I walked around in nearly
constant fear and anxiety. Time seemed to be slowed down and each moment
seemed to be split into milliseconds - and each one was uncomfortable and
sometimes terrifying. Time after time I had to summon the courage to dwell
in the moment and face what appeared to be an unlimited darkeness. But in
time things smoothed out and I gained a greater ability to integrate the
breadth of the kundalini experience. Some day you will look back and be
able to acknowledge that this was the most important turning point in your
life! Just this weekend I heard the Tibetan teacher Dzongsar Khyentse
Rinpoche say that the essence of spiritual practice is to create chaos for
the ego's habitual tendencies. What can possibly do that as deftly as
kundalini?

Most Kind Regards
Kurt

PS Don't forget the part about finding a teacher!
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 06:12:45 EST
From: AfperryATnospamaol.com
To: jocelyn.duquetteATnospamexgate.tek.com
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Shaktipat in Portland
Message-ID: <263d2005.34d6fbb0ATnospamaol.com>

You wrote:
>>Is there anyone who would know someone with whom I could work to receive
Shaktipat. I live around Portland Oregon.

You may like to note that from May 10th - 12th, Mother Sri Karunamayi, one of
the great yoginis of modern India, will be in Portland as part of her 20 city
USA/UK tour. Her Web site is: www.globeworks.com/karunamayi/karuna2htm.

With blessings,
Alan
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 12:55:11 +0100
From: ATnospampi.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: LORD MICHAEL ON THE PURPOSE OF CANCER

Dear Friends of Great Spirit,
Listen to what Archangel Micahel has to say and spread the word.


Mon, 2 Feb 1998 23:14:59 +0100 (MET)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 23:16:26 +0100
Subject:

ARCHANGEL MICHAEL'S CALL TO THE CANCER PATIENTS OF TODAY

Beloved Friends,

As a cancerous tumor calls its host to step into his/her power, the
women having this and also women in general are called to move into
their power and to allow themselves this power. They are called to
allow their power to flow through their veins and to finally breathe
again. For a long time the Mother has held Her breath, even to the
point of degeneration. However, this is not irreversible. The
cancerous tumor, the cellular growth is just a warning and a defense
of the body. It is not a death sentence. Exactly those are called who
have these degenerative processes in their bodies, those women but
also the men - as they also have a female side - as especially these
people can discover what regeneration is. You as humanity are now
remembering the science of regeneration, an advanced and higher form
of medicine. Body Electronics is just a part of it, although you can
achieve very much with this alone.

We invite you, who have these excessively multiplying cells in your
physical vehicle, if it is your wish, to switch to regeneration with
our support from the dimensions of Love and Light. By this you support
the regeneration process of Mother Earth, especially during this
important period which is Her healing crisis up to 26 February - the
day of the Solar eclipse - and the rest of your year 1998. Brothers
and sisters, you are the regeneration engines of your planet. You are
Her cells and this is why Mother Earth invites you to transmute your
degeneration into regeneration and power, with Unconditional Universal
Love.

Just like the blood of the Earth or the waters are the carriers of Her
female energy on the physical and etherical level, your blood is the
carrier of your female energy. The blood can be divided into the
female red blood cells which are the carriers of nutrients and oxygen,
the more active, male white blood cells which do much maintenance work
towards your health and the child which is your blood platelets which
heal your wounds. The white blood cells, in turn, can be divided in
the more male lymphocytes which produce antibodies and which eat the
unwanted cells and the more female leukocytes who support you with
their biochemical defense work. The division between male and female
becomes increasingly difficult and vague as you delve deeper into the
cellular structure of the human.

Abnormally growing B lymphocytes, the producers of antibodies, call to
activation of your power and your release of fear and insecurity. "Be
in your power and truth, activate your pride with Love and show your
colors, the cosmic colors of the one you really are, otherwise WE will
do it!" your B lymphocytes say, "if you take this step, then we can
step back to normal level." It is important you call upon your own authority and
that you know who you are, oh Earth woman, so that in Love you can
listen to the advise of your elders and use it for your own growth and
development. It is you, who will indicate what your
body needs for its regeneration. We invite all who have cancer, to step into their power in a
similar way.

As a Western society, which has charged cancer far too much with the
fear of death, turn yourself toward the Mother energy of Africa.
Through the matrix of Africa, contact your own inner power and pride,
with Love. Allow your entire energy, all aspects of the
multidimensional Child of Heaven (Cosmos) and Earth, who you are, to
descend into you, be born and welcome It on Earth. Now is the time of
the great landing. Many do feel this and some expect it will be in the
form of a mass landing of extraterrestrial vehicles or the return of
an external Christ. However, what is meant is your own landing, of
your Soul Vehicle, your own Chariot of high Light frequencies, driven
by our inner Christ Who belongs to the dimensions of Light and Love
and Who now descends or is ready to descend upon the Earth.

We are continuously with you. This is Archangel Michael, in the Cosmic
Love of the One Heart."

Channeled ...
2 February 1998, City of Light Rotterdam, the Netherlands.

Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 14:51:42 +0200
From: George Nistor <GNistorATnospammail.dntis.ro>
To: nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net>,
 "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Hi George
Message-ID: <34D712DE.58CACF71ATnospammail.dntis.ro>

Hello

Thx for helping me.
U say :" A better remedy, would be Meditation and relaxation. This
very helpful to slow down the body, and the mind from worries and
concerns."
Yes , but if I try to meditate and relax after a short period (4-5
minutes) my
body begins to trembling (this was in last 4 month).
This wasn't a rule . I can meditate next day or after 2 days without
trembling
or spontaneous moving .
After a period of time the phenomenon reappear.

Sorry about my terrible English. If my teachers could read this, they
would get Nightmares.


nkognito wrote:

> Hello George,
>
> When I first started meditation, I also had the head and neck trembling.
> It is a sort of a strange feeling trying to keep the head still when it
> just wants to move and shake. Some people say it is an imbalance of
> energy, others say it is the energy trying to break loose and clear the
> passage ways in the spine. It took several weeks for the energy to subside
> and the neck trembling and twitching to stop for me. I get a jolt in my
> neck from time to time now, but now that I know that this is kundalini
> energy, it is not so frightening now.
>
> Many days of not much sleep can cause many different symptoms:
> hallucenations, lack of concentration in school or work, falling asleep at
> peculiar times (dozing off). Being too tired can cause you to be
> uncoordinated, like tripping and falling, various accidents and such.
> Sleeping pills may help for a temporary aide, but they can become
> addictive. A better remeday, woud be Meditation and relaxation. This
> very helpful to slow down the body, and the mind from worries and concerns.
>
> As you can see from the list, many people have many different things happen
> during spiritual awakening. Energy is very powerful, it manifests in many
> different ways but as the body adjusts to this new found energy, you will
> feel better and not so frightened. It will become part of you as natural
> as breathing and eating and sleeping.
>
> Love, Light and Laughter,
> Sherry


--
George
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 04:34:26 -1000 (HST)
From: rahul nandan <gauravATnospamlw1.vsnl.net.in>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199802031434.EAA01089ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>

the ecstasy of kundalini's ascent and sorrows of its decent. Shakti rising to unite with shiva and after unison settling back to its eternal seat.
Joy of coming out of your ego shell,coming in contact with and becoming part of the greater consciousness. Your senses reaching out to perceive not only animate beings but those nature's mystries like storms ,lightening etc.you feel the radiance emanating from trees plants rivers rocks .Your fears gone divisions of you and me withering away and bliss of your consciousness merging with universal consciousness. this is all ascent of shakti and its union with shiva. The eternal truth of harmony peace and balance.Rahul Nandan
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 10:51:43 EST
From: AfperryATnospamaol.com
To: jocelyn.duquetteATnospamexgate.tek.com
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Shaktipat in Portland
Message-ID: <786e984f.34d73d11ATnospamaol.com>

>>Is there anyone who would know someone with whom I could work to receive
Shaktipat. I live around Portland Oregon.

>You may like to note that from May 10th - 12th, Mother Sri Karunamayi, one of
>the great yoginis of modern India, will be in Portland as part of her 20 city
>USA/UK tour. Her Web site is: www.globeworks.com/karunamayi/karuna2htm.

>With blessings,
>Alan

CORRECTION: The URL should read ' /karuna2.htm'. Sorry! Alan


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Hello, I am new to this list and I was wondering if anyone could tell me
what is happening, if any of my chakras are opened or whatever.
Last summer, I began to experience a humming or ringing sound in my ears.
Then it began to happen at all quiet moments, like going to sleep, waking
in the morning, reading a book...
So now, I think it happens all the time, because anytime its quiet, I hear
it, so I am assuming that its constant.
Another thing, is that really without any interest in it, I have begun to
see auras.
I want to know if the ringing and the auras have anything to do with
kundalini rising?

Namaste
Arhut
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:06:12 -0500
From: chelseaATnospamsuperaje.com (Dominic & Maureen Marando)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: straying synchronicity
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Dear List,
A situation, no a number of situations, of late have led me to believe
that the "synchronicity" string going on lately is causing unwelcome
side effects. If you have the time and the email space then
continue.....otherwise you may want to stop here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
If you are still with me I'd like to tell you of what is happening, then
possibly someone out there has like experiences and could give me a
pointer or two: [who/what/where/why?] as it is beginning to be invasive
and it is unnerving to me, it is making those around me a little nervous
as well. It is pi##%^g them off!!

Last week, I was driving my boyfriend to work. I mentioned to him that I
hadn't had to put oil in the car in more than a week and that the oil
light has not been comming on, "possibly an additive we had tried?".
Seconds later, the oil light came on. (this car is a guzzler, about 3qts
wk is average. The darn thing is also back to guzzling again, and that
oil light never goes out - even when it is full)
Rich was irritated at me, I was irritated at me.
 
for months now, everytime I mention the car, when I am in it or not,
something goes haywire in it Up until the other day nobody wanted to say
anything that would make it REAL somehow. But this time broke the camels
back!!! Yuck!!! that felt terrible. I keep telling them it isn't me,

question to the scientific out there: what does 100% of the time mean?

[the gas gauge quit working when I wondered where all the gas went one
day....I watched the thing go from 3/4 tank to E while I waited for a
light to change....]

I made a joke about how my daughter wouldn't know if the car did run out
of gas I was mistaken, she came walking in door not 10 min. later, the
car ran out of gas 2 blocks from home. took the lawnmower's gas can and
it started right up. [Rich was sweet enough to tell her I had "just now
made a joke about her and running out of..." she wasn't impressed,
definitly NOT amused.

What if anything is this do you supose? an illness? Is there a cure? Am
I missing something?
DO THE GREAT CAR GODS NEED APPEASING?
if so what do they like? ,
I am open to the posibility that this IS NOT happening, in fact, at this
point in time, I'd prefere it that way, but the locals are not buying
it.

Although I don't KNOW this is happening because of me, [I don't see how
it could be me, I wouldn't want the stupid machine to breakdown, why
would my complimenting it cause it to breakdown? that doesn't make
sense. And surely nobody else would make it break down either. -tried to
cover all my bases there and blame someone else]
It IS damn irriatating!!! I don't consider this to be a GIFT of any
sort. Is it then a curse?
Whatever it is it got me in deep over the weekend.

I headed out to drive my route and thought to myself, "car is sure
running smooth" DEAD AS A DOORNOB! dead right there in the damn street!
[this time I am alone, nobody else to blame!]

fine, had to blow out the gas filter. Need I tell ya I did NOT tell
anyone? heck no I didn't.

this morning, I wake up 2 hours late! at 4:45am, boyfriend is sitting at
the computer, he didn't even think to wake me up.....wasn't pretty, I
give him a good chew about 4;am is deadline! and... I need to leave time
for error. "What if I Had to change a flat!" bla, bla squak!!..........

You guessed it!
Tire was flat.
Ever have a lug nut on so tight that you had to jump on the tire iron to
get it loose?
Ever have the nut and its bolt snap clean off?
Ever get a flat you couldn't get off - because the only damn thing that
fit those nuts has the stinkin' nut stuck in it?

Is there a poltergiest chaser in the house?

:) :0 ???
--
..freda..
BE-IS-AM ...manifesting again...
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