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1998/01/25 23:27
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #81


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 81

Today's Topics:
  Titanic.. Lighthouse.. [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
  Re: throat chakra and sleep [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
  Re: unidentified / pot [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
  Re: What God? [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
  Re: ears and eyes [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
  Home Bussiness [ esikesATnospamanet-dfw.com ]
  peaceful heart [ "Sharon Ligler" <sliglerATnospamhotmail.co ]
  Re: ears and eyes [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
  Re: unidentified / pot [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
  Re: peaceful heart [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
  Spammer..Home Bussiness [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
  RE: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #856 [ Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.c ]
  RE: Another Perspective [ Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.c ]
  RE: the Word [ Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.c ]
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 16:53:44
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Titanic.. Lighthouse..
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980125165344.0a67b4b2ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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  It is done.
  Last night, I asked my slave lecher, who gave me the number 600+ ghosts
on the Titanic to do another check on the numbers.. less than 20 faint
shadows left, he said, puzzled.
   I was looking for independent confirmation so I did not tell him We had
done the work, already.
  Thankyou to everyone who provided energetic assistance.. I do these
things in a higher dimension.. beyond space-time.. anyone whose higher
self knew they wanted to be involved, was/is/will be.. thanks!

    I spent a lot of time thinking about it, and was going to do a formal
group
ritual.. but then while I was thinking about it on thursday I realized I
had already started it in my mind, so I went ahead spontaneous.. That is my
usual style.. do it when the inspiration energy is fresh.. But I didn't
wanna mention it till I'd gotten some confirmation..

  Thursday afternoon, at the bottom of the cold dark sea...

  Captain Edward John Smith was on deck, assisting with his intentions.
  The Titanic went thru the portal, or the portal moved down the length of
it.. it got kind of stuck 2/3 of the way along, and I called in more
assistance .. angels shoved it thru the rest of the way..
  Once thru the portal, she rose/ emerged on a beautiful sunlit arctic sea.
She finished the voyage, and sailed into port in a higher dimension, in all
her regal glory, banners waving, band playing on deck.. her maiden voyage,
completed at last.. and every single soul, even the many stowaways, was
met on shore by people they loved, who loved them, and angels.. and taken
to where they
needed to be, to continue thier evolution.
  The Captain turned it over to Goddess, and went back into the light. The
voyage was meant to be his final one, before retiring.

  my inner eye turned to it yesterday.. in port in another dimension, empty
but
for a few angels/spirits playing "Sailor". Polishing the railings, and
such.. I wondered what Goddess has planned for it, next.. it seemed to be
waiting... getting cleaned up..

  After I wrote this post, (edited from a private correspondence) last
night I fell into a deep trance meditation on the mirror image of the
planet that is in my heart..
  Looking for feedback.. anybody tuned into planetary wandering spooks and
such, check out their numbers for me?
  The weather is cloudy, but the planet somehow seemed a little lighter, a
little brighter, when I awoke this morning.
  Blessings, Mystress..

  PS: Did anybody besides me notice, the big influx of new members we had,
right after the list "Lighthouse" came into conscious awareness of the
Kundalites?
  Follow the Aka cords of awareness to the lighthouse, and take a good look
at it.. it has become truly amazing.. a shining crystalline beauty, woven
of threads of light, radiant with the blessings and love of the list
members. Thank you All..
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 16:57:53
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: throat chakra and sleep
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980125165753.0a1f8da0ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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At 09:57 25/01/98 -0500, nkognito wrote:
>Hi Paul, Susan & Sharon,
>
>The other
>funny thing, I would go to work and also fall into "involuntary" states of
>meditation. <..> For example: I would be typing
>stuff into the computer and would wake up 30 to 45 minutes later and not
>have clue as to whether or not I had actually done any work. <..> It was
like my brain went on auto-pilot while I was working.

  And they say ADD folks are absent minded.. LOL!
  Kundalites can get Really absent minded.. the inner conversation with
spirit gets more priority than the outer reality, body keeps doing body
stuff while mind goes elsewhere.. We have even had folks posting to the
list, possessed by spirit, and not even knowing they had done so till they
picked up the mail, later.
>

>And there were many times while I was at work doing paper work, I could
>have sworn there was something <...>
> was hopping in and out of me. <..> Either that or I had a spirit
following me around.... like a very loving had touching my waist while I
>was filing my papers in a drawer, or tapping me on the elbow to get my
>attention.

  Ghost toasties who can see you are tuned in, are trying to get your
attention, for your help with their own agendas. Could be spirit guides,
too.. but prob'ly just spooks. Ask your angels to get them to get lost,
unless they are in your highest good.
  I'll post my "house spell" on a website today. Poltergiest phenomenon and
K. often go hand in hand, especially if there is a lot of fear present.
  It's an energy visualization to keep out unwanted visitors who are
attracted to how pretty your flaring K. looks in the astral. You need to
know the grounding excercise, first..
  http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/ground.htm
 The house spell will be at
  http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/house.htm
  later this afternoon.

>Anyway, I was sitting at my desk one day and this thing is jumping in and
>out of me and then it starts tapping me on the elbow. <..> I wasn't
scared, it just >was strange having this thing follow me around everywhere.
 I had no idea what it wanted >or what I was suppose to do with it.

  You seem to be a natural medium.. or a channeler.
  I suspect it was trying to get you to try automatic writing, to
communicate with you. Let it take over your pen hand, relax and see what
comes out. Sometimes using your non-dominant hand lets the info come thru
more easily. Take such info gathered with a grain of salt, tho.. a human
spook is not wiser than the Divine Voice of the opened heart.
>
>Sorry, got off track here. Anyway, falling asleep at inappropriate times
>was rather funny, I was just glad I wasn't driving my car down the road at
>the time. (ggg) : )
>
>Love, Light & Laughter,
>Sherry
>
 Have heard of some folks spontaneously having mystical experience while
driving, like spontaneous orgasms.. usually, tho, you can trust the
self-protective nature of K... it's not out to get you killed. Put a house
spell bubble around your car, too..
  Blessings, Mystress.
>
>
>

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
      :D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
   I would rather live in a world where my life is surrounded by mystery
than live in a world so small that my mind could comprehend it.
   -- Harry Emerson Fosdick
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 20:07:32 -0500
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: unidentified / pot
Message-ID: <34CBE1D4.1369ATnospammail.snet.net>

Ronel Grosvenor wrote:

> I think this plant has received a bad rap from uninformed people and as for
> being "potentially deadly" - I don't think so, the idea is ludicrous at
> best!!
> Do any other K - list members have anything of interest to add to this
> controversial subject?

The Chinese checked out marijuana and ditched it as an inferior
drug over 4000 years ago.

But then, they didn't have cartoons and twinkies. ; )
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 21:24:51 EST
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com, SMARTDOLPHINATnospamprodigy.net
Cc: trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: What God?
Message-ID: <d0a6021e.34cbf3f6ATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 98-01-25 09:35:57 EST, anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com writes:

<< I cannot be without
 God, but God is always realized here and now. God is both the subject and the
 object. >>

Harsha writes: Beautifully put by Anandajyoti. This is why God told Moses, "I
AM THAT I AM." The Realization comes in Total Stillness. Even Jesus said, "Be
Still and Know that I am God." He did not say "Hop around and imagine that I
am God!" All of these sayings have mystical interpretations. They indicate the
state of Being, Pure and Eternal Consciousness which is Complete and Always at
Rest in its own Nature.

Harsha
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 21:02:55 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: ears and eyes
Message-ID: <1326360420-11989068ATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us>
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Angelique wrote:
(in referring to her near-sightedness)

>"I think it was an emotional decision, not wanting to see too far ahead."

So what would it mean if someone had one far-sighted eye and one
near-sighted eye?

still here,
amckeon
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:41:24 -0600 (CST)
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 21:06:58 PST
From: "Sharon Ligler" <sliglerATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: peaceful heart
Message-ID: <19980126050659.26793.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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I was wondering if anyone else has had the experience of holding an
object and having a peaceful rush come over them, to tthe point where it
was such a heady experience at first that you had to put the object
down??

I recently received a very large egg shaped stone that provided me with
this experience.
Thank you
SL

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 21:43:46
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: ears and eyes
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980125214346.0a5701ceATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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  Dunno.. one eye sends energy, one eye recieves energy. My left eye is
receptive, my right eye sends eye-bolts. Body polarity.
   Blessings, Mystress.

At 21:02 25/01/98 -0600, amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us wrote:
>Angelique wrote:
>(in referring to her near-sightedness)
>
>>"I think it was an emotional decision, not wanting to see too far ahead."
>
>So what would it mean if someone had one far-sighted eye and one
>near-sighted eye?
>
>still here,
>amckeon
>
>
>
>
>

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
      :D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
   I would rather live in a world where my life is surrounded by mystery
than live in a world so small that my mind could comprehend it.
   -- Harry Emerson Fosdick
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:24:15
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: david.bozziATnospamsnet.net
Cc: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: unidentified / pot
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980125222415.3d8f2d74ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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At 20:07 25/01/98 -0500, David Bozzi wrote:
>The Chinese checked out marijuana and ditched it as an inferior
>drug over 4000 years ago.
>
  Yes, not nearly so effective as deer antler velvet, tiger testicles and
bear gall bladders.. not to mention live snake liver cocktails, and
powdered african white rhino horn aphrodisiacs..

  The chinese enthusiasm for bear paws and gall bladders is causing rampant
poaching of British Columbian black bears.. the rhinos and tigers have done
thier turn at near extinction, for the chinese pharmacopia, already..
  Blessings, Mystress.
>
>

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
      :D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
   I would rather live in a world where my life is surrounded by mystery
than live in a world so small that my mind could comprehend it.
   -- Harry Emerson Fosdick
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:32:34
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Sharon Ligler" <sliglerATnospamhotmail.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: peaceful heart
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980125223234.0a572600ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

  LOL! Yep, some crystals will do that.. crystals can be remarkably
sentient, after all, they grow and change, however slowly, they are alive
and Goddess is in them as She is in all things.
  Especialy if the crystal is a gift.. it found it's way to you, by
influencing another to carry it to where it needed to be.
   Blessings, Mystress.

At 21:06 25/01/98 PST, Sharon Ligler wrote:
>I was wondering if anyone else has had the experience of holding an
>object and having a peaceful rush come over them, to tthe point where it
>was such a heady experience at first that you had to put the object
>down??
>
>I recently received a very large egg shaped stone that provided me with
>this experience.
>Thank you
>SL
>
>______________________
>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
>
>

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
      :D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
   I would rather live in a world where my life is surrounded by mystery
than live in a world so small that my mind could comprehend it.
   -- Harry Emerson Fosdick
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 23:21:54
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Spammer..Home Bussiness
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980125232154.3d8fd9ceATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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<X-No-Archive: yes>

  So, before anybody gets riled up about this post..
  Here is a little secret.. the K list has been entirely without spam
protection of any physical kind, for many months... please continue to
think of it as spam-protected. "Fear not!", as the Angels say..
  The spam protection is in the astral. Goddess has it handled.. an aspect
of the "lighthouse".
  Works darn well, eh?.. this little innocuous bit o'spam is likely the
answer to somebody's prayer, or it would not have gotten thru.
  That ought not to be considered a recommendation of this business.. I
know no more about this fella than you.
  Except in the most general sense. Kundalites often end up self-employed,
simply coz it's a lot easier to explain to your boss that you are staying
home today because the light in your head kept you awake all night.. if the
boss is You. If you are needing to stay home a lot, and work is at home, so
much the better! Good to arrange your life around your K... makes it
easier in the long run.
 
>We understand that you are interested in, or are already involved in
marketing. <snipped>
>**(( You have recieved this message because you have visited one of our >
>business opportunity sites in the past.

  That would be lie #1.. listserv computers don't websurf.
  If you are the listmember who requested this info,.. good luck!

> If you have recieved this message in error or simply wish to be removed
from >our list please reply with the word "remove" in the subject header.

   Please don't respond at all!
   My reason for posting, is to request that unless you are interested in
this guy's offer, please resist the temptation to write to him to be taken
off his spam-list. By doing that, you are telling him that his post got
thru, and the address works fine for him to send more spam to! If he gets
no response, he'll figure the spam filter killed it, and go on to greener
pastures.

> We apologize for any inconvience if we
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  Well, at least they are polite about it..

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 17:22:50 +1100
From: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au>
To: "'kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>,
 "'kundalini-l-dATnospamlists.execpc.com'" <kundalini-l-dATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #856
Message-ID: <01BD2A7F.28D1E760.d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu>

!Mike:> Hell is not a place in the way that, say, Jacksonville is a place, or
> the moon is a place. We are not dealing with our visible universe of
> space-time. Call it a state, or realm, or whatever you like. "Heaven"
> and "hell" are outside of the flow of time and the universe of space as
> we experience them.

Anything outside the flow of time cannot be qualified by a duality of heaven
and hell. Anything having a description of this sort, even within one's own
mind, is bound by time (because even unit mind is bound by time) and
description or qualification implies the ability to change as anything
descriptive cannot be permanent and so is subject to generation (birth),
operation (mutation) and destruction (death).

The mere contrast of heaven and hell are two relative qualifications and so
even as states of mind they are not permanent or eternal. Clearly the nonsense
of heaven and hell as physical place is indeed complete nonsense. As mental
spaces they are confined to individual karmic reactions (samskaras) and
entirely expressed in that way (although admittedly a number of persons with
similar reactions can express it collectively). As a spiritual concept they
are entirely useless as the Spiritual Stance is beyond any notion of pleasure
or pain or heaven or hell, ie beyond relativity and so that is why Bliss is
equated as being beyond pleasure or pain and even when in the physical world
one can experience pleasure or pain, the God centred person experiences it as
Bliss even.

> So, if it's dogma, it's wrong? Logical fallacy, my friend. Something is
> *wrong* only if it fails to conform to reality; it has nothing to do
> with the way it's labeled. Some dogmas are wrong; others are right.

No dogmas are ever right as they represent limited thinking and lack of
understanding. If it was right it would be absolute truth and that cannot be
dogmatic.

There is no logical fallacy in saying that all dogmas are wrong. Authoritative
knowledge is not necessarily dogma if that is what you are getting at.

-----

 What is dogma? Where there is no logic, where there is
no support of intellectuality, where is no debate and free
discussion, but where there is only severe imposition
forcing people to accept something, there is dogma. What
type of people preach this sort of dogma? The answer is -
the blind followers of religion say it like that. It is
quite natural for religion to say all kinds of dogmatic
things. That's why people say - there is no room for logic
in religion. But genuine Dharma is completely based on
logic, supported by intellect. In case of Dharma people are
convinced by logic; and people analyse and accept it after
free and frank discussion and accordingly start moving in
the path of life.

Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 17:23:03 +1100
From: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: "'kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: Another Perspective
Message-ID: <01BD2A7F.2DBB3A60.d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu>

!Dieter:
> Prayers cannot change fate and
> experiencing of reactions is inevitable.
> >>
Ruth or someone else?:
> Inevitable is a BIG word.. and I would disagree....
> Yes in the laws of Nature which apply in the 3rd dimension.. you are right
> IMHO... there is reaction. However, if one acts in accordance with the
> will of the divine... as a divine emissary shall we say, or in tune with
> the tao if you prefer this language.. then there is no REACTION to suffer
> for all reaction returns to the divine.
>
> It is a subtle point. But I know that this exists for I have experienced
> it. What is so interesting about acting in what I call, SPIRIT...
> following the inner guide in my actions,
> is that on the 3rd dimension, all looks to be very much as you describe. I
> will say something to X and X gets hurt and then sends back something to
> "pay me back." Everyone observing from outside sees this as me getting my
> "just rewards" or karmic return for my action. Sort of like a boomerang.
> They all feel very happy to see that the law of cause and effect is
> working in this case.
>
> But what is NOT SEEN is far more important. For in my saying something to
> X and following the inner guide (which may be a conversation between my
> higher self and this other person's higher self to engage in dialogue for
> the sake of teaching alesson)...I act without personality of my own.. but
> I act with full immersion in the SPIRIT...i.e. following the inner guide
> or will which comes from the higher self. I am consciously indifferent to
> what I say and why I am saying it.. I am fully aware of being guided by
> something in this person that is "pulling" this action out of me
> perhaps...at the higher levels of spirit. Then the action goes out of me
> without any personal KARMA for me... and when the reaction comes back
> seemingly to me.... it passes right through me without any injury as
> perhaps it goes to the source of all that is. I experience no reaction
> because I did not create the action. The action came through me going out
> and through me coming back. It is almost as if I am invisible or a medium
> through which energy flows. I am indifferent in all cases...recognizing it
> is "god's business."

Dieter:
I wouldn't dispute any of this.

If all tendencies are inclined towards God, they will become subtler and
subtler and will ultimately merge in Him/Her. When there are no tendencies
there is no mind. You go beyond the access of the mind. You will be released
from the feelings of pain and pleasure and will ultimately attain the Self.

After practising this for a while, you will observe that the very mind that was
the sustainer of your instinctual tendencies has become your greatest friend.
All your purposes will then be served by your mind. Let it have constant
inspiration from your Soul. Enlighten your mind with the effulgence of the
Soul. The Absolute Truth will reveal Itself in you automatically.

      Life is a spiritual sadhana, and the result is to be offered at the altar
of the Almighty.

      Those who adopt the reverse course are ignorant, in that by dedicating
themselves to a crude object, they transform their mind gradually into
crudeness. By gradual degeneration, their mindstuff reaches a stage where they
incline only to the material. So one shouldn't be carried away by impulses and
tendencies. Extroverted tendencies and dedication to crude objects are sure
impediments to the realization of Self.

      But in mundane life, finite objects are indispensable. The preservation
of existence cannot be by always pursuing the path of spiritual alone. When it
is settled that material needs are necessary for one's existence but spiritual
progress is the goal, then the question arises, how will the spiritual aspirant
maintain their existence during the period of spiritual
endeavour/practices, when s/he cannot be advised to pursue materiality as a
goal?

Therefore, s/he will have to deal with materiality in such a manner that it may
not become a cause of bondage or of extroversion of tendencies, but rather
leads to the introversion of tendencies and thereby to liberation. By
extroversion is meant towards crude material things. By introversion is meant
movement towards subtlety.

The skill of seeing God in all and taking one's actions to be That
manifestation is known as madhuvidya or honey knowledge.

      Madhuvidya teaches that you can endeavor to attain spiritual realisation
(mukti or moksa) even while leading a worldly life, provided, of course, that
before dealing with any object of gratification you take it with Cosmic
feeling.

Eg While feeding your son/daughter, you ought to contemplate that you are not
feeding your son, but are feeding the manifestation of Brahma in the shape of
your son. When you plough your land, you ought to contemplate that you are
serving the manifestation of Brahma in the shape of your land. If properly
following madhuvidya you can keep yourself aloof from the shackles of actions
even though you perform actions.

There will be no reactions. It is the Divine Will and not individual will
being done.

This madhuvidya' can pervade your exterior and interior being with the ecstasy
of the bliss of Brahma/God. This bliss can permanently alleviate all your
afflictions. Then materiality, the force leading toward crudeness], cannot come
to devour one's mind. The glory of the One and only One Benign Entity shines
forth to you from one and all objects.

Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 17:24:14 +1100
From: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: "'kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: the Word
Message-ID: <01BD2A7F.3C7ED480.d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu>

!On Wednesday, December 24, 1997 6:42 AM, DonBBenson [SMTP:DonBBensonATnospamaol.com]
wrote:
> already has a perfectly good do-it-himself solution to the pesky age-old
> problems of sin, suffering, and death.
>
> Sincerely,
> Not So Sure of His Own Infallibility Don

I have no do it yourself solutions. The 1990s is/was the decade of DIY. The
next decade/generation might realise nothing can be done by oneself. And also
rational enough to reject dogmas. And give some thought to how you can develop
requisite knowledge and understanding regarding he above 'problems'.

dd

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