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1998/01/23 03:52
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #75


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 75

Today's Topics:
  Re: Ear Ringing:environmental guidan [ acarre <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ]
  Kundalini Resource Center [ CheaneyK <CheaneyKATnospamaol.com> ]
  Re: Einstein [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
  Forwarded Re: [a child calling] [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
  Re: a child calling [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
  Re: Ear Ringing:environmental guidan [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
  Re: ears and eyes... and Thank You [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
  Welcome! [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
  Crop Circles (was Re: Broadcast) [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
  Voices (was Re: Introduction) [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
  Re: Cancer and devices [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
  RE: Is it this way for anyone else ? [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
  re:ghosts portals was rope, water.. [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 22:37:15 -0500
From: acarre <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Ear Ringing:environmental guidance
Message-ID: <34C8106A.F1BD1DE0ATnospamconcentric.net>

> At 22:20 21/01/98 -0500, nkognito wrote:
> >Hi to All,
> >And one more curiosity here, I am wondering if anyone else has ever
> felt
> >like they were picking up "subliminal messages" (for lack of a better
> term)
> >from the t.v. or radio? As if that message was directed there just
> for
> >your ears? Maybe I have an over active imagination. Just curious.

When i was young, 17 is the age. And after not sleeping for 14 days, -
after 3 days not sleeping we start not feeling the need to sleep anymore
-. Every input i received was directly from the Goddess, Birds, TV,
radio, people talking to me, any thing. The thing then is that i was not
functional in school. My ego was not subtle enough to make the jump to a
non ego state. I was in a psychotic state, so close to enlightenment,
only missing the contact with the deep centering Peace or Presence as
One to look at all that.

Went to bed and woke 72 hours latter. My brain, then, could not command
to my hand to write my name on a piece of paper, even if the though
formed in my head. Took me a couple of month to rebuilt myself a social
ego. I will never suggest to anyone doing that voluntarily. 14 days
without sleep can really blast you out. Given a choice i would prefer a
near death experience to that. A least i am not affraid of loosing my
ego anymore, a good point to it.

In kung fu, a couple of years latter, i loved those 3 days excursion we
made. Practicing kung-fu exercises all day long, and meditating and
listening to ancient stories, all night long. Not eating, only water.
The world was different coming back, full of subliminal messages, but we
had the deep concentrations training during the day, to expand the ego
to it.

As Angelique said, in a way, the more you go the more the line between
the outside and the inside of you goes tinier. The stars speak to us in
a language, if we only listen to them...

Antoine
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 23:16:05 EST
From: CheaneyK <CheaneyKATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Kundalini Resource Center
Message-ID: <3514ec79.34c81988ATnospamaol.com>

At this time I do not have enough time to read and keep up with all of this e-
mail. Please unsubscribe me for now. Thankyou for sharing all the information
and thoughts though.
Sincerely,
Karen Cheaney
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:46:07
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
Cc: "Afperry" <AfperryATnospamaol.com>, <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com>,
 <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Einstein
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     Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteeen.
     -- Albert Einstein

     If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would
it?
     -- Albert Einstein

     Imagination is more important than knowledge.
     -- Albert Einstein

     Not everything that can be counted counts; and not everything that
counts can be counted.
     -- Albert Einstein

     Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and
I'm not sure about the former.
     -- Albert Einstein

     Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.
     -- Albert Einstein

     Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
     -- Albert Einstein

At 08:16 22/01/98 +0100, Jason S. White wrote:
>Interested in further reading? Check "Quantum Questions" by Ken Wilber.

>The gist is that science will always be a subset of theology or mysticism.
>If only theology or mysticism would ever manage to lose its dogmatism.
>
>Later,
>Jason.
>
>
>
>
>
>

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
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 I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas.
 I'm frightened of the old ones. -- John Cage
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 21:27:49
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Forwarded Re: [a child calling]
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980122212749.295fc4acATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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  Mystress note to Radei: you sent this to the reqeust address.. the
posting address is below.

>From: radeiATnospamusa.net (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent
<mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
>Subject: Re: [a child calling]
>
>Hi, Sherry:
>
>I guess I'm responding because of synchronicity. I don't always have
access to e-mail. Your message I can empathize with greatly; I was
thinking in the shower today that I wish I could do more for certain people
who are ill, yet I have no idea what _I_ can in the healiing realm even
though I have been interested in alternative healing
>energies for twenty years.
>Recently, however, I have become more tuned into the message that we are
not to solve the mystery of life, just to touch it as often as possible and
participate in it to the best we can and experience it and share with
others.
>
>In a dream like symbology, I can see myself (or an "inner-child" part of
me) being about 8 years old and still wanting my "father" to find me, or
approve of me, or for me to take on those adult responsibilities that I
have not yet been willing to courageously undertake daily.
>
>I do not have an answer to your "mystery" but thanks for sharing!
>
>Jai
>kundalini-l-requestATnospamlists.execpc.com wrote:
>> Greetings to All,
>>
>> When I first started meditating, I had this young boy calling to me for
>> help. He was lost and looking for his Dad. He appeared to me in a dream
>> once, he was 8 years old and the most beautiful child I had ever seen.
>> For months his voice haunted me and there were times I could not help but
>> weep for him because he was lost. I got the impression that he had been
>> kidnapped and his father was looking for him too. And strange as it may
>> sound, I felt like a link between the two of them. After several months, I
>> stopped hearing his voice, I hope that he has been found.
>>
>> People often say that having the gift of seeing or hearing if a wonderful
>> thing, but for me, the knowing and not being able to help someone is a very
>> hard thing to deal with. Its like having 99 percent of the picture and
>> that 1 percent missing is what keeps me from being able to do something
>> about it. Like seeing a place with perfect clarity and not know the name
>> of the place or where the location is, or seeing someone and not knowing
>> who they are, or knowing that some will be hurt and not being able to know
>> the time or day to be able to stop it from happening.
>>
>> Love and Light,
>> Sherry
>
>
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>
>

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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 21:13:07 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: a child calling
Message-ID: <34C7A84F.7D5AATnospamintercomm.com>

nkognito wrote:
>
> Greetings to All,
>
> When I first started meditating, I had this young boy calling to me for
> help. He was lost and looking for his Dad. He appeared to me in a dream
> once, he was 8 years old and the most beautiful child I had ever seen.
> For months his voice haunted me and there were times I could not help but
> weep for him because he was lost. I got the impression that he had been
> kidnapped and his father was looking for him too. And strange as it may
> sound, I felt like a link between the two of them. After several months, I
> stopped hearing his voice, I hope that he has been found.
>
>

Is it possible that it was your male side coming through and you were
feeling lost at the time? Did you ever feel like you would have liked to
be male? GG

--

Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
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&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 00:30:29
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: acarreATnospamconcentric.net
Cc: nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Ear Ringing:environmental guidance
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980123003029.295f43aaATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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At 22:37 22/01/98 -0500, acarre wrote:
>As Angelique said, in a way, the more you go the more the line between
>the outside and the inside of you goes tinier. The stars speak to us in
>a language, if we only listen to them...
>
>Antoine
>
  The language of the stars.. the language of fire and wave.. all things
speak.

  My favorite fantasy trilogy story of awakening to power:

  The Riddle Master of Hed trilogy, by Patricia A. McKillip
  The Riddle Master of Hed.
  Hier of sea and fire.
  Harpist in the Wind.

  She speaks of such knowing, so evocatively that it is a place I come home
to, periodically.
  The Wizard of Earthsea Trilogy, by Ursula K. LeGuin is another good one..
   Blessings, Mystress.
  

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
      :D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
 I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas.
 I'm frightened of the old ones. -- John Cage
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 00:58:53 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: ears and eyes... and Thank You
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Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> wrote:

> Yup. Moonlight is blissful. I can read by it. Highway driving at night,
>with oncoming headlights: no thanks. Daylight without sunglasses, ouch.
> My Mom blames my need for glasses by the end of Grade 3 on my tendency to
>read at night after "lights out". I don't buy tht explanation, I think it
>was an emotional decision, not wanting to see too far ahead. My near
>vision, without my glasses, took on a microscope quality.
> A few years ago I started doing self-hypnosis to improve my vision. I had
>begun to notice an improvement, when I came across an article suggesting
>that old-age blindness will be epedemic among my generation, because of the
>increased UV. I am a very visual person.. and I realized Goddess had
>foresight greater than mine, in creating my need for extended wear contact
>lenses that screen out 90% of UV rays.

In recent months I've got development of some kind of sight. In the dark
with eyes open or shut I can see as if it's not totally dark. I can see
the window and the lines from the long louvres, the furniture, the hallway,
etc. - not clearly, but like night vision in semi-darkness.

The peripheral vision is best. In front of my eyes it's darker, and in the
central part I see muddy (not bright) purple or violet light. When I wave
my arm in front of my face, I can see it, but the upper arm, at the side of
my head, is clearest.

When I meditate in the daytime, I wear a sleep-mask. It's made of plastic
with a plastic foam backing with holes in it, so I can open my eyes with it
on. The foam keeps out ALL light. But with the mask on I see the room
exactly as I described above.

The thing I'm puzzled about is this: just recently I realized that the
darkness in the middle of my vision is exactly the shape of my glasses, and
I can even see two dark strips where the side-pieces of the glasses would
be. But of course I don't meditate or sleep wearing my glasses.

What do you think? Should I stop wearing the glasses? I could get along
without them except for driving, but I'd have to lean nearer to my terminal
- and that's not supposed to be healthy. Would contacts be better or worse
for me?

One more thing. Twice now I've seen bright light on my left side. The
first time, I turned and reached out to turn off the bedside lamp, but it
wasn't on. I think it's the same with my eyes shut.

The second time, I watched it. It lasted a while and then went out
suddenly. I tried to bring it back but couldn't.

What do you think that's all about?

Thanks,
Ann
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 01:05:07 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Welcome!
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Daniel Oldham <Dan.OldhamATnospamab.com> wrote:

>My name is Dan Oldham and I'm 42 years old and live in Cleveland Ohio.
>I started taking yoga about five months ago with classes once a week.
>About a month ago while holding a forward bend position I felf my lower
>back pop and a jolt run up my spine....

Welcome, Dan!

Do you work at Western Reserve? Do you teach or what?

I went to college in Granville, Ohio. My husband's family was in
Cleveland, and we lived there the first summer we were married. Western
Reserve's a fine school, I hear.

Love,
Ann
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 02:10:50 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Crop Circles (was Re: Broadcast)
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Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> said:

>> It matters not, tho, what proof is shown to those who choose to be blind.
>>If science wanted paranormal, crop circles would have done it. There is
>>plenty of crop circle research that is compeletly unexplainable.. but the
>>appearance of crop circles, has thus far most popularly been used to sell
>>candy.
>>
At a recent workshop with Christann Hummel, who is part of a group working
with devas on cleaning up the environment, she said that they have received
information that the crop circles are being put there by the devas. She
said they are providing a sort of symbolic language that we can use to
communicate better with them. Our group here is now collecting crop circle
photos to have a good look at these geometric forms.

Love,
Ann
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 02:01:42 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Voices (was Re: Introduction)
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Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> wrote:

> The soul voice coming from the heart is truly nameless. Mine got a little
>impatient with my search for a name for it. It is limitless, ineffable, and
>any name we put on it is a limitation. It is our connection with Diety, All
>that Is.. but if we choose to see it as less, sometimes it accepts our
>perceptions as part of the Free will agreement.
> I needed to call it something, we humans like concepts to have
>name-handles to grasp them by. We will never Grasp All that Is with our
>limited minds, tho..
> I settled on "Goddess" as a term to use, even aware that by gendering it,
>I apply my mental limitations. All of the universe is in my heart, all that
>is outside is inside.
> However, having been raised Roman Catholic, "Goddess" differentiates for
>me the difference between that patriarchal fire and brimstone judgemental
>archetype, with a reminder that Diety is in me, and I am physically
>gendered female. Spirit is androgyne. Mother Goddess, I can relate to as a
>meditative concept.
> When I speak of Goddess in my posts, I am referring to my inner voice,
>but I am also referring to K., Shakti, Gaia, Creator, All That Is. That
>which guides our path. The nameless Unity that is everyone and everything,
>unconditional limitless love of which the universe is made.

A beautiful statement.

> I also call my yoni, Goddess, to remind me of it's sacredness.

Yes, that one, too.

> The inner voice's resistance to being labeled, is so that we will expand
>our concepts to see Diety in everyone and everything. It is not separate,
>except in our limited preconceptions.
>
Before I had much higher hearing, some friends who'd been using a Ouija
board invited me to come see what was happening, so I went. The psychic
who could read the board was working with her mother on the other side.
Right away she asked if there was a guide there for me. He came in, and I
asked for his name. He didn't want to give it. So I asked for anything to
call him by, so I didn't have to say, "Hey you." He said, "Ann, call me
Brother Ray - that is, Ray of the Sun." Then he talked in some detail
about the chapter I'd just finished writing for my dissertation, which had
to do with druidic lore and tradition. Several days later I realized the
name was a cipher, a bit of code from the many druidic cipher lists still
found in old books.

When I began hearing voices, I had the kind of brain translation that gave
each voice its own tone and accent - which was nice because I could tell
from the voice who it was. Nowadays my hearing is different, so I find
names helpful because I want to be sure who I'm talking to.

One of the entities who came to talk to me said, when I asked for a name to
use, "Call me the Green Brother." Later I realized that he was a deva, and
since I've been into the K. process, he's become my main guide.

Love,
Ann
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 01:55:36 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: (Ronel Grosvenor <icsdbn06ATnospamglobal.co.za>)
Subject: Re: Cancer and devices
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Paul (Ronel Grosvenor <icsdbn06ATnospamglobal.co.za>) wrote about his mother's
battle with cancer. Part of my answer was:

>If you were to use your hand(s) in healing, would she accept that, or is it
>out of the question?
>
>Either way, I have three other suggestions to make:....
>
>3) Devices on the Slim Spurling page: http://www.earthtransitions.com.
>
>These are new to me, but they seem to have remarkable capacities. I know
>they have been used to some extent in healing. I've already sent an email
>asking if any of their devices have been used in the treatment of cancer
>and, if so, which one they would recommend. I'll let you know when I get
>an answer.
>
Here's the answer I received from Ann Meril <ameril99ATnospamprimenet.com>:

>Dear Ann,
>
>There is no evidence or research collected as yet about your inquiry.
>Any research done by you would be appreciated.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Ann Meril

So, Paul, go to the web site and read what they say about the devices and
the ways they've been used. If you do decide to try one, they'd like to
hear about the result.

Good luck,
Ann
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 03:20:50 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack)
Subject: RE: Is it this way for anyone else ?
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sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) wrote:

>Subject: RE: Is it this way for anyone else ?

Yes, Jack, it is. And you tell it so well!

I'd be interested in hearing anything else you care to share that you learn
from Loki. Or anything you learn yourself about light and colors.

By the way, Loki was a Scandinavian god, one of the old gods (Vanir) that
preceded and were superceded by the classical gods (Aesir - tell me if I
mixed those up, someone!) He was a trickster god and a shape-changer, I
think, always playing tricks on the new gods and sabotaging them. But
before they came, he may have been quite different. And, as often
happened, he may have superceded a Great Goddess.

I don't know what Loki means in the Scandinavian languages, but they are
Indo-European. It may relate to a host of LK and LC words that relate to
"light" (lucid, Lucia) and "wolf" (Gr. lukos). No real contradiction - the
wolf god(dess) is found all over Europe, where there used to be many
wolves. So your Loki may bear the name of a goddess of light and/or wolves
- maybe the Great Goddess herself.

>The last time I´d seen Loki, we´d talked about the power of light. She
>told me that we humans are creatures of light - that we resonate to
>the energy of light's colours throughout every level of our being. She
>began to describe the various hues of delicate silks that were draped
>on sunlit windows in ancient Egypt. Asshe spoke, I was transported to
>a large, cool, high ceilinged, room furnished with nothing but a few
>simple wooden stools.The walls were made of huge blocks of cream
>coloured limestone andit had a small west facing window. I could see
>translucent, sunlit silks fluttering lazily in the window ... could
>feel the hot, dry, intermittent breeze on my face and lips .... could
>smell the dust and unfamiliar aromas of another place and time.

Ask Loki if that was your memory from another life.
>
>Loki was smiling and relaxed, as if nothing had happened, her gaze
>fixed on me. She turned to me and said casually,"Why don´t you ...
>experiment with the colors of light and see for yourself"

Do you see her?
>
>After several minutes of on again/off again inner dialogue ... the
>silence drowns out all sound .... and feeling prevails ... I sense
>something ... a vibrational field around my head ... it feels as if I
>have the energetic equivalent of herman munster bolts in my temples.
>They buzz on a vertical plane, on either side of my head, in opposite
>circular motion.

Have you read the Itzhak Bentov paper? He talks about what you're describing:

"The fifth oscillating circuit is activated when the sensory cortex tissue
has been finally polarized to the point where there is a circulation of
electrical current in the hemispheres and a magnetic field develops inside
the core of each current ring, as shown in Figures 14 and 15 (see Cohen
1972).
 "This magnetic field pulsates in harmony with the other
oscillators. The observed "normal" rate of the circulation of the sensory
current is about 7 cycles/sec.

"FIGURE 14: Lateral and top views of the head, showing magnetic field lines.

  "Pulsating magnetic fields of the order of 10-9 gauss are produced
by the currents circulating in the brain. These currents may be detected by
an electroencephalograph electrode on the skin surface of the head.
However, they are quite variable (see Cohen 1972). The sensory cortex
currents will produce fields of symmetrical shape but with polarities
associated with the two brain hemispheres opposing each other, as shown in
Figures 14 and 15. "
>
>I close my eyes and focus on the sensation of the energetic bolts
>until a new sensation dominates. A circle of energy is racing around
>and around at the level of my forehead, in the center. The circle
>extends out about a foot, on a horizontal plane. It begins to
>accelerate. I go with it, following the motion with my eyes under
>closed lids. This circular motion somehow affects the, so called,
>energy bolts in my temples, which seem to diminish their activity.
>After a few minutes, the feelings of motion cease altogether, as the
>sensations in my head resolve into a unified vibration, almost like a
>high pitch.

To focus your energy in the ajna center would probably have the effect of
slowing down the magnetic fields. When Shakti needs to pull me back from
there, he usually causes my eyes to open. That's a real bringer-downer! I
just lie there while everything slows down.
>
>My attention is now focused on an obvious duality of my energy body. I
>can feel the asynchrony of my two sides. The left side seems to be
>made of many vertical bands, or strings, of rapidly vibrating energy.
>The right side feels as if it´s spiralling chaotically. I go into the
>asynchronous sensations and ride them.

My friend Lynea was looking for help for someone and was given a position:
sit as if for meditation and put the soles of the feet together. She was
told this brings realignment. She asked, "On what plane?" The answer was,
"On the plane you should be on at that moment."

>I put off thinking about this experience for as long as I can.

If there was anything new or particularly interesting, I try to write it
down as soon as possible.

Love,
Ann
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 03:51:08 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: re:ghosts portals was rope, water..
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Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> wrote:

> I cannot speak to them and address thier concerns individually, but I can
>provide love and ask Goddess, the Angels, guides, their higher selves to do
>the rest.
> They put themselves under the guidance of the Captain, when they boarded
>the ship, whether it is the energy body of the Titanic they are on, or not.
>The Captain has the power of life and death, at sea.. That is why I am
>making plans, with the Captain.
> The Captain went into the Light, I feel, but was drawn back by the
>expectations of the spirits on board. He still feels responsible for what
>happened, and all the jokes about the "Captain of the Titanic", he hears..
>and he wants to "make good", in the only way left. Sailing the Titanic thru
>the portal We will create... spirits who want to jump ship, will, I suppose.
>
>...Word is going out in the astral.. I have
>specifically requested my house guards not to let anybody from the Titanic
>in, except the Captain, until I am ready.. and I m not sure if it will
>happen here in the house, or whether to chose someplace in Nature.. I had
>an idea to sail it under the Lion's gate bridge, into Vancouver harbour,
>and use the bridge itself as a portal.. but I think I'd get too many folks
>caught in the energy.. I think it will happen entirely "elsewhere".. but I
>am still listening for inspiration incoming.. and gathering support.
> I had considered going to the movie, and doing it quietly using the film
>as a focus.. but again, a private showing would be best, my energy field
>reaches out big doing this stuff.. and the movie might get all too real for
>other moviegoers. Not fair, not very consensual..
> It occurs to me, that if the theatre staff is noticing hauntings, the
>owner might be willing to arrange for a private showing, to end any odd
>events happening. Hmmm...
>
> Chac said "She has to make one, for the planet"..
> Me make a house spell for the entire planet...??? Gulp!
>
> I am beginning to think, that whatever that means...! This is part of it.
>I get the feeling, that when I am doing this working with the Titanic, it
>is going to turn into something much bigger, than I am getting glimpses of,
>now..
> I am the ground crew..

> So it is I seek to find a place of agreement, but I must trust the Angels
>to the details.. and be a very clear channel for the energy to move thru me
>and not get stuck...
>
Can't you find a way to do it without all the energy moving through you?
Christann Hummel and her group, working with devas, have constructed large
forms to release energies, including ghosts, from large areas - cities, for
example.

At a recent workshop we cleared a subdivision. She marked it on a map
first to be sure we all knew just where it was. Then she began a ritual -
unfortunately, she didn't give us copies of it. But I feel sure she would
discuss it with you. Basically, we laid a large cover on the ground over
the entire subdivision, then summoned all the forces ready to be released
onto this cover, then raised it up from the ground and drew the corners
together and then the edges, making a big bag or balloon, then called on
the devas and other forces to take it up to the buddhic plane - I think.

There had been a drought of sorts, but the rain held off just until we got
back inside and then came down for days.

They use devices constructed with sacred geometry. She had just returned
from abroad, where they did a very large job - forget where. For that they
took a large device made of three of the usual devices with a different
device in the middle - very interesting.

Can you use help from others? I'd be glad to help.

Are you going to put those spells on the list? I'd like to have them.

Love,
Ann

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