1998/01/19 13:04
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #62
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 62
Today's Topics:
Re: The Politics of Meditation and K [ Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com> ]
Conversations [ Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com> ]
Re: Ramakrishna again [ Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.co ]
(EGO +) & (EGO -) [ "Ed Arrons" <eeaATnospamaug.com> ]
Selfishness [ Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Conversations [ Louis Conjar <lconjarATnospamerols.com> ]
Re: Meditation and Prayer [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) ]
physical in alignment with expanded [ RadiantTch <RadiantTchATnospamaol.com> ]
Re. Meditation and Prayer [ Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com> ]
ears and eyes... and Thank You [ iri <iriATnospamivyrealty.com> ]
Re: Meditation and Prayer/reply [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
So long for a little while... [ Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.co ]
Re: Ears ringing. [ "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> ]
Re: Meditation and Prayer [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
Re: physical in alignment with expan [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
Science [ Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com> ]
Re: ears and eyes... and Thank You [ "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> ]
Re: Broadcast [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:43:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com>
To: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
Cc: TGarlandATnospamVIPMail.com, heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com,
kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The Politics of Meditation and Kundalini Research-A
suggestion for Gene
Message-Id: <199801191443.JAA17074ATnospamdavinci.netaxis.COM>
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Dear Harsha,
Good idea. I remember having two lengthy discussions about TM with
one of the Maharishi's long-time disciples. Everyone knows his name
and his book, but in the present context, I don't wish to mention
either of them at this juncture. What I do want to say is that this
close disciple, and amateur scientist, told me point blank that he
had never heard of Kundalini. When I attempted to explain that it
had to do with energy rising up from the base of the spine into
the brain, he almost fell off his chair laughing. He just could
not imagine such a phenomenon.
Mind you, he was a top TM man and had a sort of scientific
bent of mind.
With all best wishes,
gene
At 08:52 PM 1/18/98 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 98-01-18 19:01:38 EST, you write:
>
><< For example, the Maharishi
> institute has published a number of interesting papers on meditation that
>have been
> completely ignored. That's not good, it's not bad, it just is. Everything
>in its
> time.
> >>
>Harsha writes: I don't think those papers have been completely ignored. The TM
>research studies are incremental but useful, although some methodological
>issues have been raised by "outsiders" who are not part of the TM group. Jon
>Kabat Zinn and others have also done work on how mindfulness (as a meditation
>technique) has various physical and psychological benefits. What is truly
>astonishing is how the exponents of various meditation techniques compete with
>each other both in the "scientific" and the "spiritual" realms for recognition
>with every group claiming they have the best technique! My suggestion to Gene
>would be to hook up with one of these groups and have them evaluate and fund
>his proposal. All Gene would probably be required to do would be to declare
>that "Technique A" has been found to be the best technique for reducing
>stress, increasing creativity, beauty and a general feeling of well being and
>of course for fullly raising the Kundalini to the Sahasrara, resulting in
>(you guessed it) Cosmic Consciousness!
>
>Harsha
>
>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:50:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com>
To: annfisherATnospamstic.net
Cc: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Conversations
Message-Id: <199801191450.JAA17351ATnospamdavinci.netaxis.COM>
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Ann Wrote:
[re. Walsch's book, "Conversations With God" 1 & 2]
>...Frankly, I did not expect to see this
>particular set of books to be so criticized on this list. I am curious
>as to whether anyone else here finds them to be of so little value.
>I haven't read them, but I certainly will now.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dear Ann,
And while you're at the book store, pick up a copy of
"A Course In Miracles." You'll find it in the CHANNELING SECTION,
along with hundreds of equally "enlightening" books. (JOKE!)
The best,
gene
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:02:44 +0000
From: Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Ramakrishna again
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980119150145.00a1b7e0ATnospammail.which.net>
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At 18:55 18/01/98 -0800, Anandajyoti wrote:
>All healers would know , that when you heal someone , because of their Karma,
>the healer has to take upon the Karma of one being healed.
All healers who really know what they're about understand that this simply
isn't true.
It's rather more helpful to ask Divinity to deal with the karma instead.
Hope that helps,
R.
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:13:01 -0500
From: "Ed Arrons" <eeaATnospamaug.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: (EGO +) & (EGO -)
Message-Id: <199801191515.KAA27243ATnospamsandia.aug.com>
It seems to me there are two distinct conditions of EGO from which spiritual
growth is projected and that much positioning in these discussions may result
from not clearly establishing this distinction.
The first condition would be (EGO -) in which the EGO needs to be strengthened
to build a solid foundation for spiritual growth.
The second condition (EGO+) is where the foundation is already established
and may be transcended.
A moot point would occur with regard to alternating conditions in one's EGO.
Ed
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:20:30 EST
From: Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com>
To: FastchngesATnospamaol.com
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Selfishness
Message-ID: <59ef99b.34c36f40ATnospamaol.com>
You wrote:
>dear list...
>IMHO...
>it DOESNT matter how we get from point A to point B...all that matters is
that
>we ARRIVE...
> ...S. C. Stoner...
And if we destroy others in the process? That alright too? Without much
qualification, only a selfish fool could subscribe to such a limited view.
Alan
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:23:43 -0500
From: Louis Conjar <lconjarATnospamerols.com>
To: Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com>
CC: annfisherATnospamstic.net, heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Conversations
Message-ID: <34C36FFF.5945ATnospamerols.com>
Gene Kieffer wrote:
>
> Ann Wrote:
>
> [re. Walsch's book, "Conversations With God" 1 & 2]
>
> >...Frankly, I did not expect to see this
> >particular set of books to be so criticized on this list. I am curious
> >as to whether anyone else here finds them to be of so little value.
>
> >I haven't read them, but I certainly will now.
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Dear Ann,
>
> And while you're at the book store, pick up a copy of
> "A Course In Miracles." You'll find it in the CHANNELING SECTION,
> along with hundreds of equally "enlightening" books. (JOKE!)
>
> The best,
> gene
Truth can be found anywhere, if you know how to look. Would you
appreciate it if you received this kind of response to a comment
regarding Gopi Krishna's writings? IMHO, we would be better served by
encouraging people to read various teachings/philosophies which will
stimulate them to look within for the Truth.
--
Louis Conjar - Dynamic Expansion Institute, Inc.
"All Your Spiritual and Financial Needs In One Place"
lconjarATnospamerols.com - http://www.deimarket.com
410-385-9500 - fax 410-654-9587
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:38:00 GMT
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Meditation and Prayer
Message-ID: <34c57355.57160427ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net>
So where do I go from here? Is meditation dangerous if you do not
have a belief in God?
Actually ift is not that I do not have a belief in God, it is that I
refuse to have anything to do with him
Who is your God? What is he like? Does he send you to hell if you do
not continually ask for forgiveness?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Tammy,
IMHO you'll find most on this list have dealt with the same
problem. You'll also notice that when one speaks of the God pertaining
to most of the major religions it is in the masculine form, as you do
in your post.
I think a lot of women have become disallusioned with religion because
they are excluded from full participation.
Try looking inward. What have you ever done that would cause you to
continuously ask for forgivness ? Why would a loving God create Hell ?
Why can't God have a dual nature ? Why would any religion exclude a
majority of the Earth's population ( 52.4 % female ) ? Does your
religion teach that we are inherintly evil, even infants at birth ?
With all the beauty and goodness in the world ( yes, it's there if you
look for it. ), does your religion teach that it is the only true path
to salvation ?
Welcome to the human race, Tammy. I'm sure if you look hard enough you
will find God. I see God everyday in my Children's faces and my Wife's
eye,even in the mirror sometimes.
Peace,
Jack
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:56:07 EST
From: RadiantTch <RadiantTchATnospamaol.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: physical in alignment with expanded consciousness
Message-ID: <d44228a4.34c3779fATnospamaol.com>
Dear family,
I have my own ideas, but I in know way know it all, so I am posing a question
to anyone who feels led to answer it with their own experiences -
I am having a bit of a time experiencing "being" an expanded
awareness/consciousness (loving observer with no judgement) along WITH tending
to the business of everyday living of my particular human focus. Part of me
(heck, MOST of me!) wants to "stay" in that awareness space, and not be
physical at all. I am aware that I am ALSO a physical human being which
requires some focus on the details of life, rather than (or in addition to)
the big picture, or expansiveness. I am wondering how those on the list
integrate these two ends of the paradox in a workable and comfortable form,
where both can be experienced at once......? I feel that I am in the process
of discovering that, and any help would be greatly appreciated.
Blowing bubbles ;-),
Barbara Ellen
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:13:19 EST
From: Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com>
To: r.morelATnospamsympatico.ca
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re. Meditation and Prayer
Message-ID: <7508109a.34c37ba1ATnospamaol.com>
Dear Tammy,
Please forget all the concepts and ignore all the dogma. Do not be confused
between religions and spirituality: the former are only pathways, the latter
is the destination. When you meditate, you will ultimately know the answer to
all your questions from within as you come to know yourself. That experiential
knowledge is all that really matters. And when you know yourself, you will
also know that God is love - first and foremost, in whatever name and whatever
form, or none. Study and have faith in the teachings of the great mystics and
masters who have preceded you on the inward path. None of them teaches bigotry
and exclusivity; all show the path of love, peace, righteousness and truth and
all point to the one universal Goal that is to be shared by all.
In addition to the two books I have mentioned elsewhere, another source of
inspiration you may like to track down are the writings of Anthony De Mello,
an Indian Jesuit retreat master who died in1987. He was a great bridge-builder
between East and West and taught meditation with the benefit of that wide
vision. His 'Sadhana: A Way to God' is a classic. Books by Bede Griffiths,
such as the 'Marriage of East and West' may also help to expand your horizons
if approaching from a Christian perspective.
Incidentally, a great lady yogini of my acquaintance recently gave the
following definition of meditation as distinct from prayer: " In prayer, you
talk to God; in meditation, God talks to you - but in His language, the
language of silence". Beautiful, huh? Both prayer and meditation are forms of
Divine communion, just different methods and intensities. You must practise
whatever you find comfortable :-)
Blessings,
Alan
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:56:24 -0800
From: iri <iriATnospamivyrealty.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: ears and eyes... and Thank You
Message-Id: <199801191755.LAA24873ATnospamsmtp1>
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I want to thank all those who have sent messages to me off list. Your e-mail
is greatly appreciated.
---------------------------------------------------
There has been talk about ear ringing on this list. To this I would say that
I too have had occasions when I experience ear ringing. When it occurs it is
most grievous for me. Primarily I believe, because my hearing is so
sensitive. My spouse claims that when I am listening intently (as in waiting
for a guest to arrive at the house) I can hear cars and people about the
same time as dogs do(and sometimes I hear things first). Other times (as in
when i am preoccupied) my hearing approaches normal. The inconvenience this
causes in normal life however is that I usually find people speak too loud
for me, I listen to radio or the television at a much lower volume than most
people and as a result, people ask me to turn up the volume because they
can't hear the program.
One side effect is that my ears tend to produce more wax (possibly as some
sort of defence mechanism) to block out the higher levels of sound.
Similarly, light levels are another issue. I leave the light dimmers on a
very low level because it is sufficent for me to see clearly. Inevitably, I
am asked to turn up the light levels. However, I do function well in normal
office light levels when I have no choice in the matter.
Has someone an adequate explanation for these occurrences? This has been
going on for quite some time. I might add, that at a recent check up, the
doctor could find nothing wrong with my ears.
Only a few months ago, I went for my eye check up. Nothing wrong with my eyes.
I am not concerned at all, but I am curious as to why my senses are becoming
more sensitive.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:34:51 PST
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: r.morelATnospamsympatico.ca
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Meditation and Prayer/reply
Message-ID: <19980119173452.9720.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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>From Tammy wrote:
> I was taught that Yoga and any other meditational
>practice was very evil. Now my problem is this, I gave up on prayer
>along time ago, when I was a child. I refuse to pray to the God I was
>raised to believe in because I personally do not like the picture that
>they paint of him, you know as the saying goes about religion - same
>guilt, different holidays -
>I spent my whole childhood feeling guilty, no good ,and definitely hell
>bound.
>Gloria Lee: Dear Tammy,
Bless you, you have somehow already overcome what you were taught and
recognized in your heart that this *picture* of God is an error. The
experience of spending your childhood "feeling guilty, no good" - this
can be healed. Love transforms all, even our past. You can only begin
from where you are..and you have already named the issue most important
for you to begin with now. Your own inner guidance seems to be working
rather well and you are being very open and honest. This is all helpful
to you in seeking truth you can believe. ASking others what they
believe can be helpful in the sense of opening your mind and heart to
new ideas, but obviously it can also lead to much confusion in the
process of sorting out what you hear back. Why should say my beliefs
about God seem more true to you than anyone else's?? You may listen to
any and all, but YOU will decide what resonates as true to you, just as
you have already.
<SNIP>
>I cannot bring myself to pray to a God.
>So where do I go from here? Is meditation dangerous if you do not have
>a belief in God?
Its fairly safe to meditate...begin to use this to quiet your mind and
emotions...you will feel calmer and more in touch with your inner self
>Actually ift is not that I do not have a belief in God, it is that I
>refuse to have anything to do with him, oh this is very confusing I
>know.
Yes!! See how clear and unconfused you already are here!! You have
already wanted to change your belief about the *picture* that was
painted for you.. and you realize exactly why and what bothered you
about that *picture*. Where is the confusion in this?? Tammy, if you had
heard terrible, evil gossip about me..and then decided you refused to
believe that I was that nasty and evil and mean...would I mind???
>You see, believing in God has a way of really driving me over the
>pschological deep end....
***this is very understandable...****
Yes..oh so many have been..its called spiritual growth. You are
cleaning out the old to make space for the new. Its ok. You are refusing
because you are angry about being made to feel bad about yourself...as
you heal this and let go of old images..you will feel more loved and
loving. You may FEEL a bit lost and confused, but you are on your own
path... and wherever you are... There you are!!!
>I'm not sure how else to put it.
>Who is your God? What is he like? Does he send you to hell if you do
>not continually ask for forgiveness?
Since you asked...my *God* continually IS forgiveness.
>Just curious...
>I hope I have not offended anyone in here, that is not my intent by any
>means, I just need some clarification here
>Thank You for listening to this little lost soul,
>
>Love
>Tammy
>
>
Happy to have you here and make yourself to home...you are among friends
and family for sure.
Keep asking, keep sharing, keep listening. You are our teacher, too.
______________________
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:01:10 -0500
From: Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: So long for a little while...
Message-ID: <B982B2DC7C0ED111804600805F850AB224245BATnospamEX-DENVER-U1>
Content-Type: text/plain
I'm going to have to sign off of the K-list for a while. A number of
opportunities I've been waiting for (in leadership, teaching, and
writing) have opened up simultaneously, and I'll be greatly restricting
my other activities until I get these new challenges integrated into my
life. I hope to sign back on in a couple of months. The discussions have
been wonderful. I feel like I've gotten to know some of you better than
many people I see physically every week (or even every day).
May the love of God rest upon you all.
- Mike
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:08:58 -0400
From: "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com>
To: Kundalini List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Ears ringing.
Message-ID: <34C388AD.FD112CDDATnospamerols.com>
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I was wondering, Ruth, if it might not be your own personal magnetic
field affecting the compass. After all, you need to be in its vicinity
to read it, and therefore a major change in your field might change its
reading. Just a thought.
Orea
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:22:04 -0500
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Meditation and Prayer
Message-ID: <34C399CC.6CEEATnospammail.snet.net>
Ray Morel wrote:
> I spent my whole childhood feeling guilty, no good ,and definitely hell
> bound.
Sounds like you were already there.
> So praying does not come very easily for me. Meditaion on the other
> hand, seems to flow easily, but they are both supposed to go together
> are they not.
Go with the flow..
> I know that some teachings believe in a higher source,
> and I would like to as well, but what?
Higher Self is none other then Your True Identity.
> I cannot bring myself to pray to a God.
Love Yourself.
> So where do I go from here?
Here.
> Is meditation dangerous if you do not have
> a belief in God?
To experience God, one must abandon all concepts of a god.
> Actually ift is not that I do not have a belief in God, it is that I
> refuse to have anything to do with him,
You're fooling Yourself.
> You see, believing in God has a way of really driving me over the
> pschological deep end....
If this belief doesn't feel right, then drop it.
> Who is your God?
God has Us.
> What is he like? Does he send you to hell if you do
> not continually ask for forgiveness?
No. Only if you forget who you are.
> Thank You for listening to this little lost soul,
You are closer to home then you think.
Blessings,
David
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:55:31 -0500
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: physical in alignment with expanded consciousness
Message-ID: <34C3A1A3.2B09ATnospammail.snet.net>
RadiantTch wrote:
> I am having a bit of a time experiencing "being" an expanded
> awareness/consciousness (loving observer with no judgement) along WITH tending
> to the business of everyday living of my particular human focus. Part of me
> (heck, MOST of me!) wants to "stay" in that awareness space, and not be
> physical at all.
What are the effects of wanting to stay in the awareness space?
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:21:20 -0500 (EST)
From: Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com>
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
Cc: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Science
Message-Id: <199801191821.NAA00333ATnospamdavinci.netaxis.COM>
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Dear Gloria,
Your elucidation regarding "experience" versus objective science
has been enlightening. I would recommend it to others on the K-list
but that would be unnecessary, inasmuch as they already know as much
through their own direct experience.
I would, however, like very much to call attention to the following
paragraph from "Devatma Shakti, Kundalini, Divine Power," a book written
by Swami Vishnu Tirtha, who attained Nirvana on the 1st October, 1969.
Swami Tirth writes:
"How these [Hathayoga] execises [as perfomed by Kundalini]are
connected with the rousing of the Kundalini is a matter for research,
Although various attempts are being made to explain their action on
the nervous plexuses, they are generally based on vague speculations.
Unfortunately we have yet no institution worth the name where a
batch of ardent and sincere students, with a good knowledge of
anatomy and physiology, with their Kundalini aroused could take up
the research work in that direction. Generally anatomists and
physiologists are quite ignorant of and indifferent to this sphere
of study."
I recommend this book, "Devatma Shakti," by Swami Tirtha, to all
the K-people on the K-list. It can be obtained, I am sure, through
Kurt. It explains a lot about Kundalini in clear, concise English.
And as mentioned, the author, Swami Tirtha, attained Nirvana.
Swami Tirtha mentions a "batch of ardent and sincere students"
with their Kundalini aroused, could take up the research work in
that direction, i.e., to verify the existence of Kundalini in a
manner acceptable to the intellect, or science.
I recommend the book, and I hope that you will recommend it, too.
Sincerely,
gene
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:56:20 -0400
From: "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com>
To: Kundalini List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: ears and eyes... and Thank You
Message-ID: <34C393C7.B9529AEBATnospamerols.com>
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My eyes have always been extra sensitive to light, though recently I have noticed
they have become more so. Glare from above is really painful to em. As for
sounds, certain high-pitched ones are also literally painful, always have been.
My mother, who was never too good at comprehending that other people might be
fundamentally different from herself, scolded me repeatedly as a child for
squinting in the sunlight, a problem I easily solved when I was 10 and had enough
cash and independence to buy myself my first pair of sunglasses. And Mom never
quite believed me even in my teens when I told her the barking of our Pekingese
hurt my ears! My family doctor once told me a roundabout story regarding Roman
women taking belladonna to dilate their pupils for vanity 's sake, hence the name
of the drug. Apparently, it was his way of asking me if I was using
drugs....which I never have. Another young man told me I looked stoned all of
the time, but it's just the way my eyes are! For what it's worth.
K related? I have no idea. It's a new thought to me.
Blessings,
Orea
iri wrote:
> There has been talk about ear ringing on this list. To this I would say that
> I too have had occasions when I experience ear ringing. When it occurs it is
> most grievous for me. Primarily I believe, because my hearing is so
> sensitive. My spouse claims that when I am listening intently (as in waiting
> for a guest to arrive at the house) I can hear cars and people about the
> same time as dogs do(and sometimes I hear things first). Other times <snip>
>
> Similarly, light levels are another issue. I leave the light dimmers on a
> very low level because it is sufficent for me to see clearly. Inevitably, I
> am asked to turn up the light levels. However, I do function well in normal
> office light levels when I have no choice in the matter.
>
> Has someone an adequate explanation for these occurrences? This has been
> going on for quite some time. I might add, that at a recent check up, the
> doctor could find nothing wrong with my ears.
>
> Only a few months ago, I went for my eye check up. Nothing wrong with my eyes.
>
> I am not concerned at all, but I am curious as to why my senses are becoming
> more sensitive.
>
> :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:45:09 -0800
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
To: RadiantTch <RadiantTchATnospamaol.com>, Gloria Joy Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
CC: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>,
"heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com" <heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com>
Subject: Re: Broadcast
Message-ID: <34C3AD36.77B217CEATnospamgeocities.com>
RadiantTch wrote:
> In a message dated 98-01-18 22:29:15 EST, you write:
>
> << Again has nothing to do with right or wrong, it has to do with
> consciousness. Those who are in the divine Will consciousness don't know
> or care or judge what is going to happen because that only takes you
> into another frequency that can only exist through the solar plexus.
> Those things right and wrong, simply don't exist in this state of the
> movement. Harsha, Indra, do you relate to what I am saying? >>
>
Anandajyoti>
Hello Gloria and Barbara !
I am not sure who posted the above. Most likely I have missed the original
posting. Pardon me.
I find what the above portion to be very true indeed. One needs to be aware when
such thoughts or events crop up in our consciousness. When one has surrendered to
the Divine Will, the individual will steps aside, so to speak, and the person has
the choice of accepting the Divine Will. Then he is not worried about the result.
Agony or bliss becomes immaterial. The person also functions with detachment but
with love and compassion also.
When our will becomes predominant in our consciousness, then the Divine steps
aside also and watches with a twinkle of humor, and allows us innumerable
opportunities, to come to our senses. Those who can become aware of such changes
in their consciousness, they derive immense benefits from it. "All the doors do
open themselves , all the lights do light themselves Darkness like a dark cloud,
flies away, flies away-Who is in my Temple."
Well put , Gloria and Barbara Ellen
Anandajyoti
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
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