1998/01/18 23:16
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #60
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 60
Today's Topics:
Re: Broadcast [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: new member [ "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> ]
Ears ringing. [ Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> ]
Re: Broadcast [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
Re: Running in Circles [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Glenn Bailey <glennbobATnospamix.netcom.co ]
Re: DIRECTION [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re:EAR RINGING - throat chakra and s [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: new member [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 19:28:37 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com>
CC: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Broadcast
Message-ID: <34C249D1.1664ATnospamintercomm.com>
Gene Kieffer wrote:
>
> GLORIA WROTE, IN PART:
>
> >This should be the focus on the conversation in terms of evolution, and as
> >of yet, I haven't seen signs from Gene that he understands this in the least?
> What does thoughts and feelings released unchecked do to the world stage? Do I
> >have any takers out there?
Gloria responds:
Gene thanks for your input, I appreciate it, now I need some help from
some of the folks I've worked with here in Reno and Boise. What is
experienced goes actually far beyond the vision,dreams, etc. It is about
living and working in the moment, while connected to Divine Will...and
using the intution as the inner gage, but this isn't actually how this
manifests at all. And, your right, people have to live it to understand
exactly the inner working of it, but I can say it is verifiable provided
one is willing to do their work to stay in it once they have been
iniated into it. It involves living through the heart center, which
takes you out of the energy field from the solar plexus. Once actually
in the rhythmn of the heart center, and maintaining that inner
connection, it is quite possible to be released from self creation to a
very large extent. And once this is experienced nothing else will do,
that person will search for what is wrong until he/she find the way back
into the higher frequency.
I can't say that I have worked with anyone yet who has been able to
maintain themselves in full consciousness in this state, without
assistance... however, they all know when they are in it and when they
are not. And, even those that have only been initated into it in the
past 8 or 9 months, the same holds true for them. For the most part,
while in the consciousness of being in the heart, self creation is
neutral, and all of the problems that the individual has begins to
clear, immediately.
Years ago when I started working with the people in our soul group, I
used to continually bring them back into that state, I don't do this
now. When they are out, they are out...and I simply suggest they do what
is necessary to get out of the space they are, and to do some pretty
severe self examination to see what it is that has blocked their ability
to stay heart centered.
Anita has just recently got sucked back into the solar plexus, and yes,
it was her dreams which showed her absolutely where she was. I am there
on Thursday nights to help with the dream interpretation, but everyone,
now knows exactly what the frequency is of a solar plexus, self involved
state, and what is a heart center...pure love frequency. And, in asking
Anita what took her out of the heart center, she could tell you exactly
what it was right down to the day, and time and hour.
So, you see, yes, self creation is of one frequency that totally changes
the manner in which one lives, and the other is so very different that
one feels really lost while out of the heart center and very agitated,
but once that is left go of, and that person returns home to the heart
center, the peace and joy return immediately.
>
> GENE'S REPLY:
>
>
> From all that you have written (and I have read) over the past several
> months, it is clear beyond any doubt that you are living in two worlds, the
> world of the spirit, and the physical world. I think it is wonderful.
Gloria:
No I live in one world...it is all the same for me.
>
> From the beginning, I have said that I would like to have science
> verify spiritual experience, Higher Consciousness, Illumination, etc.
>
> When you write that when we release our thoughts and feelings unchecked
> we send out, or transmit them, onto the world stage. These thoughts and
> feelings, when they are negative, it's bad; and when they are all-loving,
> positive, and cheefull, it's good.
Gloria:
Not so, a large part of this experience involves no judgement it is
neither good or bad, it is only witnessed as it is. When one simply
observes without thought or judgment that is when the window appears
whereby one can understand the subtle workings of spirit and choose to
undo what is done. Each person lives his own creation, and when an
individual is thinking and projecting, reactiong, thinking, etc. That is
always of a certain frequency, when he/she chooses to step out of the
state of action/reaction...then now is the time when the window opens
and one can begin to work the interior process. It is very subtle and
you have to be brought into it through grace, but those who experience
it will never again be satisfied with anything else. This is learning to
be that neutral party that really moves with kundalini as in the dance,
in this nothing is good or bad...just noticed.
Presumably you mean its good for the
> world stage. I do not dispute it. The reason you have not seen signs from
> me that I understand what you are talking about is because what you say is
> not verifiable.
Gloria:
It is very verifiable once you experience it, in fact, if you choose to
do this, I will help you.
>
> Please, Gloria, I know I have repeated myself innumerable times,
> but this is not meant to be a put-down. When you or anybody else writes
> about a beautiful dream you have had, or a beautiful experience somewhere
> in the spiritual world, I do not dispute it. Undoubtedly you and they
> have had and are having beautiful dreams after dreams, visions after
> visions. All this is wonderful.
GG
The dreams and visions are nothing in comparision to this experience,
this is about entering the absolute silence of Divine Will. You have to
live it through the heart center on up, and it involves total detachment
from thoughts, emotions and time/space frequencies of thought and
intellectual belief systems. It means living totally connected to the
moment without thought about the future or the past in terms of trying
to carry it with you.
One of the things that identifies a self realized person to me is that
he/she no longer controls life and time. It is not to say that you
aren't moving with it, but you don't know what it is going to bring
until you are in it. And, in a life way you don't predecide what you
are going to say or do, since there is no way to know that until it
happens, the other thing is all things are fine because it is simply
connected to that which is. Every moment lives out its own experience,
and one who is self realized is simply alive to that flow.
>
> No you doubt you have seen the spiritual world clearly and know
> how it is structured so that when somebody in Brazil has a naugty thought,
> or somebody in Alaska is thinking negatively, you and they can see the
> effects of these thoughts and how they hinder the evolution of the race.
Gloria:
Again has nothing to do with right or wrong, it has to do with
consciousness. Those who are in the divine Will consciousness don't know
or care or judge what is going to happen because that only takes you
into another frequency that can only exist through the solar plexus.
Those things right and wrong, simply don't exist in this state of the
movement. Harsha, Indra, do you relate to what I am saying?
>
> What I am saying is that inasmuch as we cannot yet scientifically
> verify what you see in your dreams, or what others see in their visions,
> or hear when they talk with God, or some spiritual beings, they do not
> advance the cause of scientific understanding. Your visions are personal
> visions, not universal information that can be transmitted to the world
> stage. . . . not unless you write it down, print it, and mail it to
> some scientific journal.
Gg
There is no reason whatsoever to see, understand what I dream, vision
etc. That is not what is of importance in my experience, it is the way I
live, it is the state of the consciousness that is of value. Nothing
else is, not even the kundalini experience which is wonderful, but to me
the only thing of value is the manner in which I live. It is totally
without thought, it is just a state of being, what is ...is. And it is
perfect. I don't have thoughts about this or that, I don't have anything
really on my mind other then what moves through it and then it is for
purpose. This is what makes that kundalini brain so very different, it
is only light with purpose that has a does a function on this level that
is quite remarkable because it moves and manifests according to a
specific frequency that NEVER CHANGES, IT IS ALWAYS THE SAME. This
probably more then anything else is what moves people, because you are
always the exactly the same regardless of what is happen. And, it is
quite natural to live life in joy with a smile no matter what is
happening in ones life. The world is the illusion, the joy and light,
and love is the reality.
>
> I think it would be good if we were to give skeptics the benefit of
> the doubt. Perhaps scientists also have dreams and visions comparable to
> our own. I just finished watching an encore of the 10-hour series,
> "Stephen Hawking's Universe," on PBS TV. Hawking also thinks about "the
> Mind of God." Many other scientists are doing the same thing.
GG
I doubt if they live in the simple state that I am talking about. If
they did experience this, they perhaps could do something really
incredible with it, but I think it is quite rare to experience this with
an over developed intellect. I am lucky since I have a very simple mind.
> Gene:
> Hawking says that if he were to make a bet on whether the Universe
> will go on expanding forever or whether it will eventually cease to
> expand and then contract to where it was at the time or before the
> Big Bang, he would bet on the latter; i.e., he would bet that the
> universe will cease to exand and will fall back upon itself.
>
> Another scientist, in California, who is working on the exact same
> problem, said in the same television series, that she (SHE) would bet
> that the universe will continue to expand forever.
GG:
Time as we know it doesn't exist in this state, this inner movement
really cancels the focus on the world around us in the way that most
people experience it. This state pretty much shuts down the frontal part
of the brain, and one lives in a very quiet spot inside that only
witness's to the life around it. Doesn't this sound like something Gopi
would describe?
>
> Now this series was made a couple of years ago. Since then, scientists
> have arrived at more or less of a consensus (about 95%) that the universe
> will go on expanding forever.
GG
They won't be able to understand this with this place of the brain, I
would be certain that the part of the brain that wants that information
will be simply shut down.
>
> So you see, scientists draw very, very heavily upon their intuition,
> just the same as you do. The only difference is that they always withhold
> their judgment until all the data are in. Dr. Hawking intuitively believes
> that the Universe will eventually collapse; other eminent scientists
> intuitively believe the universe will expand forever. The scientific
> data are not yet final.
GG
The intuition is used but in a very different way that what you are
thinking.
>
> We all enjoy speculating about various things, whether we speculate about
> God, the Devil, or the Nature of the invisible universe. As yet, the
> scientific data is lacking on which is which.
GG
Again, unimportant. What I'm explaining is about a higher dimension that
what you want to live out of, and I quite clearly can not live in that
place in the least. It doesn't exist for me. That part of my brain has
been put to sleep and there isn't a cell in my body that has use for it.
>
> Scientists do have their dream, they have their visions, they probably
> believe as sincerely in God as anyone else does. But they cannot write
> scientific papers for professional journals about what they see in their
> dreams and experience on their excursions into the spiritual world.
> If they did, they would not be scientists. Blake was an exception.
>
> So, yes, I do understand that it's not such a good idea to have
> negative thoughts because these thoughts might shatter the spiritual world,
> and then where would we be? After all, the spiritual universe is not made
> of Jello, is it?
GG
Negative and positive are only used to create and learn through, the
place I'm talking about is undoing the self creation in total, so that
in doing this one can once again become that Self that is actually who
is behind all else. I Am That.
>
> On the lighter side, we certainly know how powerful our thoughts are on
> the outcome of horse races, football games, basketball games, and other
> sporting events. Notice how the Notre Dame teams always pray together
> before their games? When I played basketball for St. Mary's High School,
> we always prayed together before the game. We didn't win every time, but
> we prayed anyway, and we had pep talks by the coach, who was a priest.
GG
What I'm talking about is so far beyond this I can only invite you in,
if that is something that is even in your consciousness as a place to
be.
>
> And I can recall that during World War II, both sides prayed to God for
> victory. The Germans prayed, the Japanese prayed, we all prayed.
>
> I also recall the many, many experiments conducted by Duke University,
> and others, even Princeton University, on psychic power, everyong trying
> to show how much power our thoughts have to influence events, even other
> people. As of this date, however, no experiments of this nature have
> proved conclusive.
>
> But yes, Gloria, I do understand what you are teaching us about the
> spiritual universe. I just don't see how it connects with scientific
> verification. If you or some of the other dreamers and experiencers
> could tell us how it works, it would be helpful, I think.
Gg
It is something that makes everything else simply as if nothing. I'm
sorry but this is true. God Bless you friend.
>
> With all best wishes,
> gene
>
>
>
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 22:30:14 -0400
From: "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com>
To: Kundalini List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: new member
Message-ID: <34C2BAB6.DCFE0DAFATnospamerols.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353"
Welcome! If your Self is what you seek, be assured you will find
it...and it is such a grand adventure!
Blessings,
Orea
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 17:37:04 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Ears ringing.
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.980118173306.5278F-100000ATnospamuhunix3>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
I have a very good Friend called Fuzzy who has a very clear understanding
of the ear ringing. He is picking up the ley energies or the telluric
field I think he calls it. We can all do that. It is the mother nature
thing about us. I have the feeling that Elephants actually communicate
with one anothersome how as a result of these noises.. elephants because
they have found that they can communicate with each other over very long
distances and that their ears can hear beyond our frequency range.
I think it is old Mother waking up and stirring her bones... and we are on
her. I also think this is part of the issue with the beached dolphins and
whales.. but since I am no scientist.. I will leave it to someone else to
classify and specify the exactitudes! My compass has gone now about 6
degrees off wht it was at the end of Dec. .. it seems to move quite a bit.
Take care, Ruth
******
So, for the individual..there is no purpose or goal except to be a vehicle
through which Source can amuse itself...[Satyam Nadeem]
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ruth Trimble email:<trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
http://166.122.32.61/trimble/
*****
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 23:06:49 -0500
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: HeartZen <heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com>
CC: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Broadcast
Message-ID: <34C2D159.46A0ATnospammail.snet.net>
Gloria Greco wrote:
> > Now this series was made a couple of years ago. Since then, scientists
> > have arrived at more or less of a consensus (about 95%) that the universe
> > will go on expanding forever.
>
> GG
> They won't be able to understand this with this place of the brain, I
> would be certain that the part of the brain that wants that information
> will be simply shut down.
It will be 'transformed'.
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 19:34:54 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Teresa <TGarlandATnospamVIPMail.com>
CC: Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com>, Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com>,
heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com,
shalomATnospamcheerful.com, DonBBensonATnospamaol.com
Subject: Re: Running in Circles
Message-ID: <34C24B4A.5EB6ATnospamintercomm.com>
Teresa wrote:
>
> > ... the conversation on scientific research, scientific method, etc,
> > etc, has been going in circles for quite a while.
>
> Please forgive the harsh attititude in my diatribe. (I'm no fun at parties, either).
> I would truly enjoy getting on to other more stimulating, spiritual conversations.
> Anyone have a topic to recommend?Teresa
Hang in there, it will change. GG
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 18:04:18 -1000 (HST)
From: Glenn Bailey <glennbobATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199801190404.SAA18908ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
Hello to everyone. I have just subscribed to the "K" list.
Over the last 12 months, I have had a series of amazing experiences that I
believe are the awakening of the Kundalini.
First, a brief history, which may or may not be relevant. Several years
ago I injured my lower back (around the sacrum). At the time I was
having regular body massages for relaxation/stress relief. My massage
therapist suggest a form of body therapy called Orthobionomy.
Orthobionomy involves the identification and release of the body's
tension holding patterns, particularly as they relate to physical or
emotional injuries. The practice of orthobionomy is to exaggerate the
body's tendency through physical manipulation and following. The end
result is a signal to the body that brings to consciousness tension that
is unconscious. I believe this is a relatively new form of physical
therapy.
Anyway, after going through this for a few months, I had an amazing
experience about a year ago. During a therapy session that was a
combination of Orthobionomy and massage, I had a physical sensation that
can only be described as an eruption from the base of my spine that
rocketed up and through my chest. It was intensely pleasurable, and at
the same time my breathing intensified dramatically. My therapist said
afterwards that the message she received was that it was a blessing.
This was a year ago. Since then I have continued to have this
experience during massage therapy, meditation, or even sitting at my
desk at work. During intense experiences I feel the energy flow through
one or more of the seven chakras (this is often accompanied by images of
pyramids, clouds, or fire-lit caves) with a strong tingling in my hands
and feet. At these times my breathing rate and volume goes off the scale
and often have explosive physical reactions (e.g., arms flying open,
intense vibrating of arms, legs or torso, etc.).
At my therapists suggestion, I have taken up Tai Chi which has not only
provided another circumstance to have these experiences but has also helped
out my lower back. I have also consulted with an energy worker who
manipulates these fields from a distance.
Without exception, every one of these experiences has been pleasurable.
I am excited to have discovered this list and the links!
I hope to share additional experiences and learn from yours:)
My goal is to learn more about this wonderful phenomenon, to have
an ongoing dialogue with others experiencing the same, and better
understand how it fits into my spiritual evolution.
Peace.
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 19:57:57 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com>
CC: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
Subject: Re: DIRECTION
Message-ID: <34C250B0.4E23ATnospamintercomm.com>
Afperry wrote:
>
> Dear Gloria,
> Does anyone need to show a butterfly how to be beautiful? It simply manifests
> its nature. So does every human being, evolved or otherwise. But the evolved
> human shines as a beacon for others to see and follow; he/she naturally
> manifests Divinity - which is Unconditional Love and of which all concepts of
> altruism, brotherhood and joy are expressions.
>
> What should we expect from ourselves? Simply to be honest and compassionate to
> ourselves and follow the inner light of conscience. What can we expect from
> others? Nothing, we have no right. Ours is just to give and to show; others
> will follow in their own appointed time and way.
Gloria:
Exactly, it is all about consciousness at work in life, and
consciousness is also awakened awareness that simply oversees what is
happening, and what it leaves is fruit and this fruit leaves fruit, and
in this exchange is evolution.It is quite simple when your inside of it
without thought, but when your on the outside seeing all that is wrong
or right or trying to figure out to make it this way or that...then it
is very different. From where I am, the future hasn't been created yet,
it is manifest according to decision made by billions of us in the
movment, so how can we panic over something that isn't manifest??
My experience is one of being a part of the expansion, and assisting
whenever, where-ever I'm drawn to help those with the eyes to see and
the ears to hear what can be done through the window of opportunity. Not
that window isn't seen or heard, felt or tasted by the person absorbed
in the mind, this window only become visible to those who have entered
the silence. In the silence we have miracles unleashed...more then we
can count. This is the reality behind what appears to be real. What is
real is very powerful and will effect life, how we all have to live
through it to see...this is the adventure, is it not? God Bless. Gloria
>
> Blessings,
> Alan
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 23:10:23 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re:EAR RINGING - throat chakra and sleep.
Message-Id: <l03010d00b0e88c4cfe8eATnospam[207.71.50.157]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Paul "Ronel Grosvenor" <icsdbn06ATnospamglobal.co.za> wrote:
>Ive been interested in lucid (conscious) dreaming for a
>long time and for past
>year have been practicing allowing myself to enter sleep consciously from
>waking state. point i'm interested in is that at some point during this
>conscious "dissociation" into sleep just before actual clear dream images
>begin ...
>When eventually i've entered the dream completely and provided i'm still
>conscious (lucid) I can still sometimes sense the state of my chakra's and
>how activity in them relates to various aspects of the dream ...
If you can consciously enter this state, you don't have to just enter
whatever dream comes along. You can learn to create whatever you want and
make things happen. Sometimes dream material will intrude, and you fight
it off and work to control what's happening. Just remember that you can be
in control, that none of it is physical-plane reality and you can change
things, make something disappear, and create things.
Even more than this! When you can put your body to sleep and stay awake,
you have the ideal state in which to meditate. As the Gita says,
"The turtle can withdraw its legs;
The seer can withdraw his senses."
This is the way I teach meditation. I teach people to relax the physical
body completely, to imagine that they are gradually withdrawing from the
body and into the center of the head, that the body is just an old suit of
clothes with nobody in it. Then withdraw from neck, face, etc. The last
muscle to relax before sleep, I've read, is the forehead muscle; with
practice you can relax that and stay fully conscious in the center of the
head. Then you relax the emotional body and then the mental body, the
intellect. You've decided ahead of time on a symbol to focus on, so you
just lift up higher and focus on the symbol, and wait. Eventually you can
go in and meditate without a symbol, but it's a good way to start.
This is not kundalini meditation, as you've no doubt understood. This
leaves the physical body behind, as well as the emotions and the intellect.
So it may not be what you want now, but since you've learned so much of it,
I thought I'd tell you.
It may seem like there'd be nothing to do in that state, but you'll be on
the higher planes without the encumbrances of the body and other lower
planes, and that's when the fun really starts! The universe is open to
explore.
Ann
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 23:45:35 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: Ray Morel <r.morelATnospamsympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: new member
Message-Id: <l03010d02b0e892a97d37ATnospam[207.71.50.157]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Tammy - Ray Morel <r.morelATnospamsympatico.ca> wrote:
>Hello everyone,
>My name is Tammy and I have been sort of reading the digests, but don't
seem to begetting any real list mail. Please help.
You get either separate posts or the digest, not both. You're subscribed
to the digest. You're getting this post separately because I cc'd to you -
see it in the header?
>I have been experimenting with meditation, I am new to all this but feel
>that I have an inner self that can definitely be reached....
>
>I am very interested in reaching my inner self and would really like to
>learn how.
>
It sounds like you have some overt kundalini symptoms but not a lot. At
this point you could choose to go ahead with a path that includes kundalini
awakening, or you could decide against it. Why don't you take some time to
understand more about this and then decide?
You might read Lee Sannella's "Kundalini Experience," written by a doctor,
originally for other doctors. If you think you may want to go ahead with
it, read some accounts by people who have actually gone through it. Kurt
Keutzer has an excellent Kundalini Bibliography, but now I can't remember
the address. His email address is keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu; you could ask
him.
You can learn to meditate and find your inner self without overt kundalini
experience - see my post above with the subject line <Re:EAR RINGING -
throat chakra and sleep< for a little on the method I teach. It's more or
less raja yoga. You can find many books on that; the source of them all is
Patanjali's "Yoga Sutra." There are many translations with commentaries by
various people.
Gloria Greco on this list teaches a way of meditation that does encourage
and develop kundalini, and you can read material on that at her web site.
There's also a meditation exercise on Angelique's web site, but I rather
think it isn't for beginners, unless you feel tough and want a real
ShaktiZAP! Don't even read it if you're not sure whether you want to
continue with the kundalini.
Whatever you decide, it's best if you find a teacher (guru). And be
certain of what the teacher teaches before you commit yourself.
Welcome and good luck!
Love,
Ann
DISCLAIMER!
Home | Archive Index | Search the archives | Subscribe
K. List FAQ | Kundalini FAQs | Signs and Symptoms | Awakening Experiences | K. list Polls | Member Essays | Meditations | List Topics | Art Gallery | Cybrary | Sitemap | Email the moderators.
symbol.