1998/01/15 09:15
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #44
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 44
Today's Topics:
anonymously Re:anonymously:Marijuana [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ "mark s. waind" <gandm.waindATnospamsympat ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net. ]
Re: understanding [ Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net. ]
Re: Emotions "feeling" and tone of v [ LilEli <LilEliATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: understanding [ "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.e ]
Re: Emotions "feeling" and tone of v [ "Sen Ashanka"<sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it ]
Re: understanding [ "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.e ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.e ]
Re: Emotions "feeling" and tone of v [ "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.e ]
Gender and Kundalini (was Scientific [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ OZGUR COPUR <ocopurATnospambilkent.edu.tr> ]
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 22:18:40
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: anonymously Re:anonymously:Marijuana and K.?
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>From:
>Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 20:54:20 EST
>To: mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com
>Subject: Re: anonymously:Marijuana and K.?
>
>Minor burnout takes about a week to get out of your system, but there often
>remains a haze that takes up to a month to get rid of, like dust on a mirror
>getting slowly blown off.
>
>Pot always made my crown chakra go bazonkers, not to mention all the mental
>and psycho-spiritual stuff. Although I don't openly recomment pot use
because
>of it's addictive side (and it's very psychologically addictive), and because
>it takes the idea of altering concousness away from the self into a near sure
>thing; but much of what I achieve now through my practices are getting
back to
>those states I was at while high. Tripping and smoking pot helped show me
the
>way, but much like going on a glass bottom boat ride, seeing underwater is as
>easy a buying a ticket, but to get to the real pure living underwater
requires
>much more work :( If you use, see how it gets you closer, and what it's
>really like, see the ways in which you want to gain control over yourself, so
>you can eventually abandon using to get better responses by yourself alone.
>
>It's tough, and certainly not a "sure thing" like using, but self seficiance
>is nice.
>
>
>
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
:D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at
different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing.
-- Clive James
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 22:28:00 -1000 (HST)
From: "mark s. waind" <gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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Hello Folks:
This is the third letter I have posted to the K List. I have been
reading and listening to the K List for a little while now and feel that
the only way to really get involved is to lay all my cards on the table.
I am therefore going to relate my main experiences regarding spiritual
growth and kundalini to everyone on the list. You might find what I
have to say a little strange but I assure you I am sincere. We are all
different flowers in the garden of creation and I look upon myself as
one of an infinite variety. I believe God is "infinite expression in
infinite dimensions". We are what God looks like right here and now.
My name is Mark. I have a double degree in Psychology and Sociology.
I make my living teaching music; writing music, playing music; and
listening to music. I also produce recordings for various other musical
artists and teach production. I have had a taste of stardom on a small
scale - enough to know that it was not what I was looking for in life.
I love music and that is that. I also love people so the way I make my
living is a wonderful way for me to survive. I am married to a wonderful
woman and I have a very gifted son from a previous marriage.
With me it seemed to start approximately ten years ago. In 1988 I was
meditating and noticed that my body was swaying ever so lightly back and
forth of it's own volition. It was not my will moving it. Somehow I
felt that I had tuned into some sort of cosmic vibration. It felt good.
It felt right.
It was around the same time that I was fooling around with a ouija board
by myself. I noticed that my hand(s) would move of their own volition.
What appeared to be some sort of jiberish would be spelled out. But the
strange thing was that the same jiberish would be spelled out over and
over again. I notice that there was some sort of order to this jiberish.
Words like "NA PON O" and MZNA BA N ZI JI" are a very small example.
I began meditating with the ouija board on my lap. My body would sway
back and forth and this jiberish would be spelled out on the ouija
board. I then began to feel what I can only describe as "psychic
impressions" upon my mind. Ideas and concepts were being pushed into my
head. I began to understand what was being related to me through the
the jiberish appearing on the ouija board.
This started when I was 34 years old. I am now 43. One of the first
things I noticed was that everything that was being related to me was
of an intangible nature. That is, they were things that were incapable
of being touched physically.Things like LOVE which is referred to as DA.
MA - which is also a form of love. It is the energy that makes the
flowers grow and what we call sexual energy. There is CA, which relates
to fear, anger, jealousy and other negative emotions. "SRON" which is
the will. "GE" which is thought. The term, "NOP" is a verb - is causal-
things are brought about through "NOP". The term "PON" works in reverse.
So if I were to say "CA PON O" it would mean my fear has decreased. What
it would actually mean is that the energy in my solar plexus chakra has
has been moved to the heart chakra. "O" is a desired state of being.
When "O" is achieved it means one is operating through the heart center.
A phrase such as "GE DA NOP O" means literally,"thoughts of love bring
about a well balanced happy individual".
I realize that what I am saying may seem a little far fetched. But I
swear that I have not invented this. It's too far out to be a hoax.
This does, by the way tie in with kundalini. I will continue.
I was little by little , being given a description of a world or plane
of existence tied to ours - two worlds that are dependent upon each
other. We create thought. We are thought manufacturers. Our thoughts
chain together like DNA molecules - thought molecules. They chain
together in infinite combinations. These combinations are injested by
higher forms of consciousness which in turn manifest what they injest.
We therefore, in a round about way, create ourselves. We are all one.
Infinite expression in infinite dimenstions. On and on and on and on.
When I was 38 years old I was sitting at my desk writing when my hand
began to move of it's own volition on a notepad. As it did a picture
emerged. This was a picture of the sign of infinity drawn many times
over itself with the number one place behind it. At the same time both
of my hands began to vibrate - they became very cold. I stood up from
my chair and at the same time it was as if the entire veil of reality
was lifted and for a very brief time I stood in the presence of a life
force beyond desscription. It hummed at a very low vibration. The crazy
thing is that I "recognized it" I knew it. I began to cry.
That was a point of change in my life. From that point I didn't us a
ouija board. Ideasare impressed upon me constantly. The spirit is
always with me. It moves through my body in the form of a sine wave
neverending. I can feel and see it moving thru the top of my head.
This is my KUNDALINI. The funny thing is there are two forces at work
- three if you count me. There is the fatherly/motherly personality
which guides me throughout my life. There is the sine wave which buzzes
about my body all the time; and then there is me! Kinda sorta like
"FATHER, SON, & HOLY GHOST!" How's that for plain English?
During the last five years I have grown immensely and with this growth
I have experienced a lot of physical discomfort; a burning numbness
across my chest, under my chin, and I am presently experiencing it
around the top of my head, my hands and in my kidneys; itching all over;
blurred vision; twitching and weird sensations of energy moving in
various parts of my body; a huge increase in my sexual urges; dizziness
and a change in my appetite and diet. There have been times when I
thought I was going mad. I thought I had Multiple Sclerosis. Doctors
could find nothing wrong with me. It is only in the last few months
that I have even heard of Kundalini. I came across a book and it
described the sine wave. I freaked out! Wow! I thought - this sounds
like what I have been dealing with! So here I am!
My hands vibrate vibrate all the time. I have began healing> What I
should say is that my SOURCE uses me as an instrument to heal others.
I want you to understand that I was quite chakra illiterate until quite
recently. I really didn't follow any sort of Hindu teachings whatsoever
and am still not that well read. What happened was that my SOURCE began
moving my hands to various parts of my body and point and spin my finger
around in a spiral and tell me HIS name for it. I will relate them to
you from the crotch up:
1)MA - sexual
2)CA - fear, jealousy, anger etc. - solar plexus
3)BA - intellect - at base of rib cage
4)Da - love - heart area in center of chest
5)GA - joy, fun, laughter - where you would perform a tracheotomy
6)NA - trust - where adam's apple is in front of neck
7)PA - inspiration, creation - throat area under chin
8)NA - third eye - between eyebrows - tied directly to adam's apple
9)ZA - a band around the top of the head - seat of understanding -
the crown
I am also told that I have chakras in the palms of my hands which
are also DA; and chakras in the palms of my feet which HE calls WU.
WU is earth energy. Today I can literlly feel the energy moving in
through the pallms of my feet and moving up to my spine where it
then waves it's way up through the top of my head. I can also feel
energy moving in through the palms of my hands to my heart. According
to my HOLY PARENT all healing is done by moving various CA energies
through DA- the heart chakra, for cleansing. This would explain why DA
is also in the palms of my hands. HE calls this process "MZNA".
My HOLT PARENT will enter my body when I meditate and move me around
in various yoga poses such as placing my hands in the prayer position
and hold them over my various chakras; up over my head to a place at
the base of my neck or the top of my spine to a place he calls QA.
This spot is pointed out to me to be a very important area where a force
called "RON" exits the body. My arms are also extended right out in
front of me with the palms face up. When this happens my hands feel
like they are receiving mild electric shocks.
I could go on and on and I will but not now. I realize that what I have
related to you is a little out of the ordinary. But I am no ordinary
guy. What I have said is true and from the heart. We are all unique
creations and each one of kus carries infinity within.
I have trust that ALL will find a way - one way or another.
Peace
GE DA
Mark
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:51:23 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: "mark s. waind" <gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, mark s. waind wrote:
> Hello Folks:
>
> This is the third letter I have posted to the K List. I have been
> reading and listening to the K List for a little while now and feel that
> the only way to really get involved is to lay all my cards on the table.
> I am therefore going to relate my main experiences regarding spiritual
> growth and kundalini to everyone on the list. You might find what I
> have to say a little strange but I assure you I am sincere. We are all
> different flowers in the garden of creation and I look upon myself as
> one of an infinite variety. I believe God is "infinite expression in
> infinite dimensions". We are what God looks like right here and now.
>
> My name is Mark. I have a double degree in Psychology and Sociology.
> I make my living teaching music; writing music, playing music; and
> listening to music. I also produce recordings for various other musical
>
>
Mark, whatever you have written is hereby also being supported
my experience as well.....
Merging
We are all one. Sooner we understand this better it is.It is said
that some inteligent entities have come in our part of the world. Entities
with various talents. It is very hard for all these entities to take human
birth and grow. Best way for the very talented and grown entities is to
take up a living human being of the type with whom merging for them will
be easy.
This letter is a classical example. Some very intelligent entity
has found out a method of communicating with this soul. It is using its
talent to grow confidence in him by giving him knowledge whereby he
directly experiences many mysteries of nature whi ch he can use to his
advantage and growth. This will start bringing tremondous changes in him.
Slowly and slowly both he and the entity will becomes twins in thoughts.
And then a time will come when ...boom.. entity will enter his body to the
tremondous a dvantage of both. This soul will grow in evolution in this
birth so much that it might have otherwise taken a few hundreds painful
births probably.
ALL GROWTH TO HIGHER PLANES WHERE SPACE CONTRACTS AND TIME
ELONGATES IS POSSIBLE QUICKLY BY MERGING RATHER THAN GROWING BIRTH BY
BIRTH. MERGING OF ALL THE SHAKTI IN ALL THE SOULS OF THIS UNIVERSE CAN ONE
GO TO HIGHEST PLANES OF BUDDHA....AND FURTHER TO B EING OMNISCIENT,
OMNIPOTENT AND OMNIPRESENT.
I, Shahanshah have been going thro this process with the help of
inner voice(my entity).
Within these three and half years this inner voice has converted
me from a sick, angry failure of a man to a level where I feel like
shouting that I am son of my God(Inner voice) and still maintain my sanity
and respect among my vast circle of friends an d relatives, prosper
everyway and grow to be healthy old nay young man of 61.
My inner voice is guiding entities to merge in me to assimilate
and purify,so that I grow.
I wait to be one with my God(Inner Voice) when He is ready. Before
Harsha came, I had written many papers on dialogues between my inner voice
and me on this list, so to some extent I can feel why Harsha is
uncomfortable with my recent writings.
Egoist Ram .. now Shahanshah.
> >
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:10:59 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: understanding
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On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Harsha1MTM wrote:
>
> Peswani wrote: Your reaction to my declaring that I am Shahanshah, and to
> Vijay that he is enlightened without probing them deeply.
>
> Harsha writes: was prompted by a combination of my sense of humor and the
> language used by both of you. Both messages (Peswani and Vijay) were
> transparently pompous and presumptuous, which is why people found my response
> to be quite funny (I got a number of personal e-mails on this).
I have just replied to a letter from Mark.Waind, mentioning
something for you.
Persons who wrote to you on your joke on me, might be the same
persons who wrote me something different. So why do you need their
support. Result has been good , we both have opened up to the benefit of all.
They have written in private and let it remain so
20 years back you got your sat chit annand experience. This world
is moving at supersonic speed. A lot of persons are talking about great
changes to come. This list supports this thinking. It is latest
experiences that these list members are going on now that you should
meditate on.
By the way for first two years I meditated for min. 8 hours a day
and still I meditate for 2 to 3 hours a day and am in constant contact
with my inner voice.
Shahanshah
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:21:35 EST
From: LilEli <LilEliATnospamaol.com>
To: annfisherATnospamstic.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Emotions "feeling" and tone of voice
Message-ID: <4cb733e7.34be1b72ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-01-15 02:40:36 EST, Ann wrote:
<< You find different ways. If you feel your centers in action, you may feel
a fulness or tightness or even pain in the solar plexus when you get
emotional. Raising your energy to another center may get you out of being
emotional. <SNIP>
As I practiced the low voice, I discovered that it worked just like a light
switch. If I was emotional and didn't want to be - it wasn't the right
time for it - all I had to do was drop my voice and I was using the
computer brain - I was being intellectual rather than emotional.
>>
All this talk about feelings lately has really been something I could have
cared less about getting involved with. Then Ann's post made me think
about it.
I used to "feel" emotions with my entire body. Anger made my heart
race, sadness or hurt made my body droopy, love made me smile and
light on my feet etc. Sort of like wearing my heart on my sleeve. And
these emotions were very difficult to control.. I just FELT them allover
as if they had a life of their own.
But so much of that has changed in recent years. Now it's like I chose
what I want to feel and what I don't. And even the people or things that
used to cause these emotions in me (as I saw it back then..now realizing
these emotions are mine and mine alone) now have no effect on me.
I went from feeling out of control, to blaming others, to now believing
that others who I am in contact with are speaking/acting to the best
of their ability at that moment and no matter what they say or do, what
would do them the best good would be for me to send my love to them.
So I do. In a way, this practice has almost eliminated a whole range of
emotions for me. I hardly feel anger or hurt, it's more of a passing thought
than an all encompassing emotion. Detachment, who'd a thunk it?
As for using a different voice, this is a technique I use with my kids as
often as I can. When there comes a moment when I want more than
anything to knock my boys heads together (figuratively) I have found
that the best approach with them is to speak to them in a quiet, reserved
voice, one that is not agitated, frustrated, or angry. It seems to bring them
back to that same place. Whereas, if I yell because they are yelling, they
only yell louder. Detachment here too, though more difficult to achieve
when you got three little ones pushing every button you own and a few
extra ! But a change in voice works for them, keeps me out of the emotion
of the moment, and reminds me that above all else, LOVE gets the
message across louder than anything else.
Lisa
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:34:35 -0500
From: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
Cc: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: understanding
Message-Id: <34BE2C8A.217FATnospamacad.bryant.edu>
Peswani wrote:
> > Shahanshah...Three years back I felt I was enlightened, but later
> I lost it whatever it was after one and half months. > >
Harsha writes: Dear Peswani, I am glad you were enlightened three years
back and I am sorry that you lost it one and a half months later. What
comes and goes, no matter how beautiful and captivating is not the Self,
The Core of Being, the Sat-Chit-Ananda.
> Peswani wrote:
Harsha, it shows your frustation and hence such a reaction against
> the word enlightment.
Harsha writes: Thank you for your concern but I feel O.K.
Peswani writes: Whatever you have experienced which you have named
> sat chit annand, is your first personal experience(you have no reference
> frame to compare). I have given three different experiences that I have
> gone thro and I have given three different names
Harsha writes: What do you suggest? Perhaps spiritual arm wrestling on
the Web!
Best wishes dear Peswani and God bless you.
Harsha
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:46:56 +0100
From: "Sen Ashanka"<sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Emotions "feeling" and tone of voice
Message-Id: <C125658D.00508ADF.00ATnospamais.it>
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Lisa wrote :
>As for using a different voice, this is a technique I use with my kids as
>often as I can. When there comes a moment when I want more than
>anything to knock my boys heads together (figuratively) I have found
>that the best approach with them is to speak to them in a quiet, reserved
>voice, one that is not agitated, frustrated, or angry. It seems to bring
them
>back to that same place. Whereas, if I yell because they are yelling, they
>only yell louder. Detachment here too, though more difficult to achieve
>when you got three little ones pushing every button you own and a few
>extra ! But a change in voice works for them, keeps me out of the emotion
>of the moment, and reminds me that above all else, LOVE gets the
>message across louder than anything else.
A very good approach and very very educative. There used to be times when
we
want to tear a person apart and beat them up. This approach is used very
effectively
by my father, who has been extremely cool in lots of situations. There was
a time when
he was at a station and was given a faulty ticket at the ticket counter,
and at the train
the ticket checker apprehended him. Very coolly he went on to explain to
them the
situation whereas they started shouting and speaking very rudely. Those who
have lived
in India would probably appreciate the situation. Anyway, my father
continued talking
in a low cool voice, and soon after the officials cooled down and saw the
truth they were
very embarassed and began apologising profusely. Then my father decided not
to
pressurise them any further and let them go on. My father was a great
forgiver of people and
I have not seen a single person who did not respect him.
Guess this was the result of detatchment and love....
Cheers and love to all
Ashanka
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:51:49 -0500
From: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
Cc: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: understanding
Message-Id: <34BE3095.2ABCATnospamacad.bryant.edu>
> Peswani wrote:
>> By the way for first two years I meditated for min. 8 hours a day
Harsha writes: Beautiful. It shows inner aspiration.
>Peswani wrote:
and still I meditate for 2 to 3 hours a day and am in constant contact
> with my inner voice.
Harsha writes: That is Wonderful.
Harsha further writes: Now consider this: You say I meditate for hours,
I experience my inner voice, I give financial help or charity, I wish to
be a Boddhisatva, I know the secret of secrets, I know the difference
between Moksha and Nirvana or I am King of Kings or I help people...etc.
The common element in all the statements is "I". Have you found out who
this "I" is and what is its nature?
Best wishes
Harsha
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:59:24 -0500
From: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
Cc: "mark s. waind" <gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <34BE325C.188EATnospamacad.bryant.edu>
Peswani wrote:
> > I wait to be one with my God(Inner Voice) when He is ready. Before
> Harsha came, I had written many papers on dialogues between my inner voice
> and me on this list, so to some extent I can feel why Harsha is
> uncomfortable with my recent writings.
Harsha writes: Dear Peswani, I do not feel uncomfortable with your
writing. There is no need to feel that way. You write what you write
because of who you are and what you have experienced. I write what I
write because of who I am. I am O.K., You are O.K. There was even a book
by that name.
>
>Peswani signs off by saying: Egoist Ram .. now Shahanshah.
> > >
Harsha sign off with a :-) smile.
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:06:48 -0500
From: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: Sen Ashanka <sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Emotions "feeling" and tone of voice
Message-Id: <34BE3418.1B50ATnospamacad.bryant.edu>
Now sen Ashanka, was it you who was getting married a few months ago.
After you signed off, I put my article on Kundalini and Tantra on the
Web. You may find it useful as you seem to have a serious interest in
spirituality.
Hope you had a nice trip to India and Best wishes with the marriage
(From a fellow indian)
Harsha
Sen Ashanka wrote:
>
> Lisa wrote :
> >As for using a different voice, this is a technique I use with my kids as
> >often as I can. When there comes a moment when I want more than
> >anything to knock my boys heads together (figuratively) I have found
> >that the best approach with them is to speak to them in a quiet, reserved
> >voice, one that is not agitated, frustrated, or angry. It seems to bring
> them
> >back to that same place. Whereas, if I yell because they are yelling, they
> >only yell louder. Detachment here too, though more difficult to achieve
> >when you got three little ones pushing every button you own and a few
> >extra ! But a change in voice works for them, keeps me out of the emotion
> >of the moment, and reminds me that above all else, LOVE gets the
> >message across louder than anything else.
>
> A very good approach and very very educative. There used to be times when
> we
> want to tear a person apart and beat them up. This approach is used very
> effectively
> by my father, who has been extremely cool in lots of situations. There was
> a time when
> he was at a station and was given a faulty ticket at the ticket counter,
> and at the train
> the ticket checker apprehended him. Very coolly he went on to explain to
> them the
> situation whereas they started shouting and speaking very rudely. Those who
> have lived
> in India would probably appreciate the situation. Anyway, my father
> continued talking
> in a low cool voice, and soon after the officials cooled down and saw the
> truth they were
> very embarassed and began apologising profusely. Then my father decided not
> to
> pressurise them any further and let them go on. My father was a great
> forgiver of people and
> I have not seen a single person who did not respect him.
>
> Guess this was the result of detatchment and love....
>
> Cheers and love to all
> Ashanka
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:23:25 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Gender and Kundalini (was Scientific Wonders)
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Sean Nomura quoting Ken Wilber said:
>Generally, women will attempt to ascend into Cosmic Consciousness through
>their interactions. That is, they attempt to connect with others and
>involve themselves more and more in the world. Generally, women attempt to
>ascend in a 'relational' manner. Through 'time', more and more connections
>are made until, in Higher Consciousness, they find themselves in 'full
>connection' to the world.
Not *this* woman. Being on this list is about as "relational" as I get,
other than relating to my husband and children and seeing my one friend
when it suits me. Mostly I feel an urgent need to be left alone. I found
the holiday season and it's attendant extended-family obligations most
irritating, and even having to say hello to my co-workers is a chore (most
of them have finally learned not to approach me until I am "settled in" but
there are those who insist on chirping a hearty "GOOD MORNING" to me
anyway). If I had an independent source of income I would rarely leave home
at all. I am sure this antisocial behavior would be much better tolerated
in a man, because that is the stereotype.
When I see discussions of hooking up with gurus, it makes me cringe. Can't
I just read a book? (this question is rhetorical, no answer required).
Other people are so demanding; books are my true friends. If I were into
Wicca, I would have to be a "lone practitioner." I used to go to church,
but that became so tiresome, everyone was so nosy, and felt they had to
comment on everything from what one wore to the pickiest personal habits.
As long as I am setting myself up for a flame, I would like to be brutally
honest and say that I find most other people dead boring. Many of you on
this list being notable exceptions (Angelique and Blythe to name two),
although there are also others unnameable whose dry long-windedness makes
me howl in psychic pain.
still here,
amckeon
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"Ah... Arrogance *and* stupidity, how efficient of you!"
-Ambassador Molari, Babylon 5.
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 05:32:29 -1000 (HST)
From: OZGUR COPUR <ocopurATnospambilkent.edu.tr>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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Hi, I am a 25 years-old, mail Turkish graduate student. Before I write about my experience, I want to investigate about kundalini. This site is a good source for it. Besides, I expect to learn something from this mailing list.
Looking forward to your mails.
Peace
Ozgur
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