1998/01/14 05:23
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #41
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 41
Today's Topics:
Re: plain English, for plain people? [ "Sen Ashanka"<sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it ]
Re: WAS Energies/Detachment IS?? [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
Re: Lonely Childhood [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
Re: Healthy Ego [ SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> ]
Home Page [ SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: genuine or delusion [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
Re: Awakening and Synchronicity [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
Re: Biomagnetics > KA > Radiant Bein [ SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Confusion and Compulsion : Warni [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) ]
Re: genuine or delusion [ "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch ]
Ctrl/Alt/Del [ Athena <starwindATnospamgte.net> ]
Re: Gradual awakening [ "Sen Ashanka"<sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it ]
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:24:53 +0100
From: "Sen Ashanka"<sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: plain English, for plain people?
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Fran wrote :
>Without ruffling anyone's feathers, is it possible to ask for some of
>the explanations to be in plain English? All the Hindu(?) terms are
>making it impossible for me to read with comprehesion (so I just skip
>them) so many postings. I have heard some of the terms before, but
>without major research into the meanings of most of the terms, I am
>lost.
>
>Is it not possible to understand this Kundalini process without a
>background in Eastern mysticism?
>
>To some extent these same questions apply to the psycho-babble that fill
>many postings as well.
>
>I just want to understand as much as I can about what is transpiring and
>what I can do/be to 'go with the flow'...
Dear Fran,
It is true that a lot of terms used are based on Indian
settings. The reason for this I guess is that in India
a lot of research and effort has gone into the science of
meditation and kundalini and so all the terms.
This is similar to the situation we in India face when
we try to learn higher mathematics and technology. We are
at a loss of equivalent words in our languages and so we
simply borrow words. They do not suffice well enough though,
and almost all technology and mathematics studies are done
in English. (Which is why all over the world we find Indians
very good in written English and grammer and not so good in
speaking accents !)
However, have searched through the net and there are lots
of sites giving glossary of terms. A few are presented below :
Basically I did an Alta vista searh on :
+"glossary" +"karma" +"samadhi"
http://wwwstud.uni-giessen.de/~s1925/hinduism.htm
This is a general introduction to Hunduism and its concepts.
http://rbhatnagar.ececs.uc.edu:8080/scriptures/mahabharata.html
A gist of the epic Mahabharata, the longest and most involved
epic.
http://www.ancientindia.com/
An insight into ancient Indian history and culture
http://lausd.k12.ca.us/teacher/anava/
Looks like a good site on Buddhism along with a glossary
http://tunglinkok.ca/9709/sources/glossary.htm
Glossary of Buddhist terms
http://www.sathyasai.org/refs/gloss.html
Glossary at Satya Sai Baba site
http://www.sivananda.org/misc/glossary/glossary.htm
Glossary at Swami Sivananda site
http://www.rsl.ukans.edu/~pkanagar/divine/glossary.htm
Simplistic one-line explanations given
http://www.trancenet.org/secrets/puja/dict.html
Glossary of Sanskrit terms - very big list
http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/Yoga/yoga-sanskrit-terms.html
Another huge list of terms.
http://www.hubcom.com/magee/tantra/glossary.htm
Glossary of tantrik terms
There are lots more....
Fran wrote :
>Is it not possible to understand this Kundalini process without a
>background in Eastern mysticism?
It is certainly possible to understand Kundalini process without
a background in Eastern mysticism. Well, to an extent one does
need a background in mysticism, Eastern or otherwise.
Kundalini process is a part of our spiritual growth, to be experienced
and lived with. A lot of the processes are beyond our understanding,
and so I guess we need not worry about the understanding process.
Like we do not need to understand the anatomy of a flower to appreciate
its beauty and enjoy the fragnance, or we cannot hold our sorrow in
the face of death of near ones however much we try to rationalise or
"undestand" the process. Similarly we grow with K and live with K and
let K enhance our lives.
Our list discussion use of Indian terms could be understood from many
of the glossary lists indicated above or you may find many more through
the use of the net search engine.
Cheers and love to all
Ashanka
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 01:34:07 -0500
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: WAS Energies/Detachment IS??
Message-ID: <34BB0ADF.1CB7ATnospammail.snet.net>
Teresa wrote:
> Here is my problem: I have this fear that if I detach from the good stuff,
> it will, like grief, move quickly, and be gone.
I believe when you refer to "good stuff" you are referring to pleasure.
(any kind) And yes, pleasure is just as fleeting as pain. They are
really
both part of a single process.
> Now, if I 'cheat' and don't
> attach from it, it'll hang around just as long as I force it to. This is a
> lie, but there is not much pleasure these days.
I believe you meant to say "detach"?
You are right it is not possible to force just pleasure.
Be thankful for this, otherwise no one would ever awaken.
"Forcing" and "hanging" are just other ways to say resistance.
This is not the art of detachment. You already are beginning to see
this.
Now accept where you are with this. Be honest with yourself and see how
this whole game we play with Ourself limits us.
I'd suggest there might be something beyond the pleasure/pain cycle that
would
satisfy you truly. Do not reach for that. It comes of Its' Own accord.
Actually It is already here. The polarity of the pleasure/pain cycle
gains strength when we try to have one without the other and this
creates
a storm. The clouds from this storm block out the Light of that which
you
truly seek.
> I'm not very willing to
> experiment with the happiness to see if it will stay for a while -- like the
> depression does.
Real happiness is different from pleasurable emotions.
> My question is: Will selectively detaching from the lousy, but not the good
> feelings (for a few months) cause me problems later? Will my habits be too
> ingrained ..
You are dealing with the very cause of habit right now.
The storm settles as you let go and allow the winds to go their route.
Then you will feel the warmth of the sun.
> or will there be some karma effect? Is it better to tough out
> the hard situation?
Bend with them. Be flexible.
> That was kind of complicated, I hope it makes sense.
It makes perfect sense.
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 21:08:15 -0500
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Lonely Childhood
Message-ID: <34BC1E0F.1CF7ATnospammail.snet.net>
SchrLL wrote:
> Many of
> the friends whom I meet along this path have also had lonely child hoods. In
> sleep, I strayed very far away from my body. It was as if the connection I
> needed was not strong enough to hold me in this dimension,
Loneliness is mandatory for a dream in which we are separate from
Our beloved Source.
Those who choose not to face this immense loneliness seek fruitlessly
"out there".
It is so big one fears one may get lost.
When we see how nothing "out there" ever truly satisfies we are at
a crucial turning point.
It can be quite overwhelming because not always do we begin to seek
warmth from within.
Often times thoughts of self destruction pervade.
There seems to be no point.
The realization that seeking "out there" leads to emptiness
is indeed a death of sorts.
Death of the illusion.
Often confused with a real death of who one is.
But loneliness is really a prayer of the heart.
We confuse it as a yearning for something else at times but it is really
a simple request for that experience of Oneness that is never totally
blacked out.
Loneliness is the path Home.
As we begin to trust and face this loneliness with dignity and not
something
to be pushed away the prayer begins to get answered.
It only seems like we are being deprived when we ask for something
that will not satisfy us. When we ask for something that will not last
forever.
We are eternal extensions of Divine Spirit.
Only that which is eternal is good enough for Us.
Nothing limited will ever satisfy an Infinite Being.
So we follow Our loneliness to where it leads.
Loneliness is the doorway Home.
Leading back to Love...always.
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:11:59 EST
From: SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Healthy Ego
Message-ID: <7a3f0381.34bc2d05ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-01-13 20:11:42 EST, you write:
>
> In a message dated 98-01-13 15:56:02 EST, you write:
> > >Resent-Sender: kundalini-l-requestATnospamlists.execpc.com
> > >What are feelings? As I understand it , it is the response created by
> > >our heart., mind, emotions, and phsyical objects on our minds.This can
> > >happen in two ways, I believe. One, sensations from the outside,
through
> the five > >sensory organs, and Two, also through the ego, emotions, and
> the
> spirit.
> > >Can all type of feelings touch the heart?
> > >Or do all feelings generate or emerge from our ego?
> > >How would one diffrentiate its source as to where the feelings are
> emerging . > >from? Any comments or suggestions are welcome on the
list,
>
> as there are > >many on the list who are so well versed on it.
>
> ATnospam->->--
> Dear friend,
> YOU have asked the 64 Million dollar question. My premise is that in order
> to
> become whole, and capable of uniting with the One, it is important to
> develop
> ourselves and claim our potential in body, mind and spirit. If we are to
> become integrated, and achieve enlightenment, we must first achieve this
> balance.
> This means that our whole self, feeling, ego, spirit, emotions and ALL are
> part of the mix.
> Some on this list may not agree, but I believe it is crucial to have
feeling,
>
> a HEALTHY EGO and an integrated SELF, body and all.
> Trying to separate these out only causes us to invite ourselves to
> experience
> schizophrenia and split personalities.
> Love and Light, Linda
>
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:04:36 EST
From: SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: SchrLLATnospamaol.com
Subject: Home Page
Message-ID: <303540fd.34bc2b46ATnospamaol.com>
ATnospam->->--
HEY! My new Home Page is up and running. Check it out. Read my poem,
"When I saw the Light". Linda
http://members.aol.com/Schrll/Light/html
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:49:59
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: genuine or delusion
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At 08:54 13/01/98 +0100, Jason S. White wrote:
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
>To: SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com>
>> Yes, it is partly from a "lighthouse spell", I cast on the list. Fueled
>>by the grace of Shakti. An energy beacon that shifts probabilities to
>>attract those who need this supportive environment, and those who have the
>>inclination and experience to share wisdom and love. It also makes the list
>>invisible to those who are not in it's highest good.
>> Blessings, Mystress.
<...>
>Or maybe a comparison to the Sirens is in order. We hear the sweet,
>beautiful music of a collection of souls in intimate communication. It is
>irresistible, it lures us in, it makes addicts of us and we become lost in
>trying to communicate the incommunicable.
LOL! Trapped in a Koan...
You are tuning in on the spell for info about it?
>
>Perhaps those needing support need distraction from the Kundalini. It does
>it's work quite effectively without our meddling. Detachment from the all
>the preconceived ideas of Kundalini will speed up its action. All the
>"facts" and well-intentioned support only foster clinging on to the pain.
I believe that very idea, is the reason why it was my path to grow
Guruless.
Early influences were Richard Bach: Jonathan Livingston Seagull, and self
hypnosis. A focus on the limitlessness of human mind potential, and Love.
So, whenever I read something that wanted to give me limits, rules and
restrictions, I did not believe. I absorbed the concepts and possibilities,
and denied the restrictions. Eastern philosophers insisting I be
vegetarian, grimoires insisting I cast a circle and burn certain herbs..
and beg Gods for favors.. uh uh, none of that seemed necessary, to me.
Childish, even.. these days, I have great appreciation for the power of
ritual, as a tool for focusing concentration of thought.
>
>So it's incongruous that you use your cast a spell to snare people.
LOL! I don't think of it as a snare, any more than my advertising.
It calls out to those who are seeking community, already. They are drawn
by the workings of their Higher Self.
Likewise, My Pro-Dom advertising is only interesting to men whom Goddess
is leading by the penis to come and get their K. awakened.
> If you
>must meddle, why not focus your Gnosis on freeing them?
Who is not free? Only those who choose to believe they are in bondage.
Let them come here, and be tied into this web of energies, so we may remind
them, that they have chosen bondage freely and can "safeword" out of it at
any time.
> And why do you now
>choose to dissipate the power of your spell by talking about it?
I used to believe in that limitation, and felt a strange inability to
describe my spells.. Even tho I could se thier structures clearly in my
mind..
Spells need to be kept secret, if there is fear of opposition. That is
limited thinking: it is intention, that counts. I feel the spell taking on
a whole new brightness and resonance, as it gains energy from the attention
and blessing of the community. It is incredibly beautiful.
It even gains energy from the tiny pockets of resistance. I can feel a
few folks out there in cyberspace, looking for crosses and garlic, to ward
off the witchcraft.. the energy of fear they are sending, only makes the
lighthouse shine love on them all the more brightly.
>
>But I suppose it is our lot in life as men and women to meddle. Ever
>blundering with the fabric of reality in the belief that We Have Found the
>Way! (and other's should too....)
Funny, and true, and not true, too..
I have been getting into making candles, latley, as another K. outlet, I
suppose.
Wax is expensive, but I bought a whole bin of ugly busted decorative
x-mas candles from the $1 store for $3. Golden Angels with broken legs,
dented santas.. with wayward wicks and lightweight powdery wax that made
them a fire hazard. Last night I carved up a bunch of broken angels and
rearraned theri bits into two jelly jars, with a wick surrounded by packed
powdered wax. Mysterious collage candles showing small faces and bits of
wing, thru the glass. The leftover bits, and some more wax was melted down,
to fill the V.S.O.P. bottle leftover from New Year's Wassail, once I'd
smashed the neck off. Beautiful frosted green glass. Goddess provided the
bits, and the creative impulse.. I just show up to do the effort, which is
Fun!
So it is with the lighthouse. The raw elements of it were already there,
in the sense of community, and the welcoming attention to each new member,
and the many threads on mass consciousness shift.. and in the gratitude of
each member for at last having found an understanding haven.. including
myself, when I first joined. The most important element, was the love and
K.fire radiating over the net. The "Skatizap effect" of net-transmitted K.
is mentioned in the very first list posts, waaay back in jun. 96. (I joined
that August.) I simply wove that energy, and those elements of intention,
into a more cohesive structure, and then turned it over to Goddess, to do
with as She wills.
K. is intelligent energy. I created the lighthouse out of available
energy that had been already freely offered, asking the angels to get the
Higher self consent of everyone involved, past, present and future. It is
grounded into the Fiery heart of the planet itself. There is much more to
it than that.. various protections.. it is bigger than me. It is made of
the stated loving intentions of you all, + universal K. fire wisdom guiding.
I do not understand all the working of what I have created, anymore than
I understand the chemical process that manifests fire, or why a wick must
be braided and straight, to burn correctly. I only know that Goddess
provides wicks and wax, and the result, combined correctly with the right
intentions, is Light.
>
>This is truly beautiful.
>Jason.
>
>
Thankyou.
I find it so.. and it is an artist's desire, to create beauty and share it.
Blessings, Mystress.
>
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
:D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at
different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing.
-- Clive James
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:39:11
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack)
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Awakening and Synchronicity
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980113133911.357791f2ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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Goddess speaks all the more loudly, when we start to listen ... and
joyous laughter is the nature of Spirit. Blessed Be!
Mystress.
At 03:58 13/01/98 GMT, Jack wrote:
>When I had my first recognizable experience with the awakening of
>Kundalini,<...> I also had numerous experiences with synchronicity
>(meaningful coincidence).
<...> One site I came
>across about synchronicity and the # 23. That evening during the
>Millenium program there were 6 direct synchronous events, <..>
> I was ROTFLMAO. It was just too much !
>
>Jack
>
>
>
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:41:24 EST
From: SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com>
To: eeaATnospamaug.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Biomagnetics > KA > Radiant Being
Message-ID: <82a0378d.34bc33e6ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-01-13 20:41:32 EST, you write:
> Recently, in deep meditation, I identified a recurrent
> feeling or sensation
ATnospam->->--
Ed.
You have a way of saying things that convinces me that you are very
intelligent. I am so happy to see that you are also able to identify your
feeling Self in meditation. When I reached this stage, my progress went much
more rapidly.
The Bliss feels REALLY GOOD!
Enjoy. :-)
Love and Light. Linda
|
|
|
http://members.aol.com/Schrll/Light.html
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 03:57:44 GMT
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Confusion and Compulsion : Warning Philosophical content
Message-ID: <34c62da0.42659975ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net>
So my query is this, why would I answer such a simple question with
such an unusual reply...even for me. What is drawing me to those
places? Why now?
I am also more spiritually aware this year, more than I have ever
been...why? what is the instigator? One last thing, where are the
crystal skulls? they call out...why? I do not know which ones or if it
matters...the question is the same...why?
Why ? Well perhaps because you are a human being. Most of us search
and long for the same things. Love, the meaning of our existance, what
will make us truly happy, peace,security and safety.
It's funny, I just got back from an interesting discussion. Several
months ago i had a run in with the neibhorhood drug dealer, he came at
me with a knife, this was just after my awakening so rather than
fight, which would have been my usual reaction I just watched his eyes
and realized he was more afraid of me than I of him. I gave him an out
and he took it, lucky for both of us. He was arrested and I was due in
court this Friday to testify against him.
This evening, walking down the street on which I live this guy
approaches me and asks to talk. We both knew that it was going to be a
request for mercy so I told him up front that I intended to go forward
a) because he sold drugs to children and b) I considered him a danger
to society. He seemed to take this well and our conversation continued
for about a half an hour. At the end I realized he just confirmed in
me what I felt all along about life and the problems it presents us.
The most important thing is Love, in my opinion. Not romance, sex or
even the love we feel for ourselves. I mean unconditional Love. The
Love of a parent for their children or the Love very few couples
experience if their lucky. there are too many of us like Mr. Dope
Dealer, they have no concept of Love, not for anyone, even themselves.
Purpose. There's an analogy I like to use. Psychiatrist use a lot of
different tools to determine a persons state of mind. Using these
tools, how long, do you suppose a person could stay sane if each
morning when they woke up someone with a pistol, loaded with one
bullet, put it against their head and pulled the trigger. No long I
would imagine. Take the same person and put them in a cave, tell them
you may or may not return, at which time you will explain to them why
they were put in the cave in the first place. The first analogy
pertains to most of us who grew up under the threat of nuclear
annilation and the second refers to the state of humanity right now.
We are all insane. We don't know where we came from, where we are
going or why we are here in the first place and we are told that we
are to die never finding an answer. what's the point of living ?
While we ponder our existence we look for meaning in our work, art and
hobbies. It may sound funny but I think Boredom is a big problem in
our civilization. A lot of us are just taking up space and marking
time. We search for mysteries and strange phenomena to occupy our
imaginations. Some look for magic their whole lives never realizing it
is all around us. Some look for God for without answers, there must be
someone who knows and is running the show, right ? And then their are
the lucky few who need not search. Theysee so many wonders around them
that they couldn't possible experience them all in one lifetime.
So, you go right ahead and look for those crystal skulls and
experience the wonder of Stonehenge and the Great Pyramid it'll be
fun. But don't forget to experience yourself first. : )>
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BTW, I saw a tv advertisement for a new movie coming out called
Kundun.
Yes. This is the film by Scorcese I think. Biography of the Dali Lama
and his family.
What it is.
Jack
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 08:54:39 +0100
From: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
To: "Mystress Angelique Serpent" <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: genuine or delusion
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com>
Cc: deliriumATnospamionet.net <deliriumATnospamionet.net>; kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
<kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Date: Monday, 12 January, 1998 2:02 AM
Subject: Re: genuine or delusion
> Yes, it is partly from a "lighthouse spell", I cast on the list. Fueled
>by the grace of Shakti. An energy beacon that shifts probabilities to
>attract those who need this supportive environment, and those who have the
>inclination and experience to share wisdom and love. It also makes the list
>invisible to those who are not in it's highest good.
> Blessings, Mystress.
>>
>>
LOL! Gnosis and mailing lists, whatacombo. It's like focusing a flashlight
at a spiderweb in the hopes that more flies get caught. Or that rotten
flies go right through. I am quite sure that it is effective and I'm glad
to know we are all here in the List's highest good.
Or maybe a comparison to the Sirens is in order. We hear the sweet,
beautiful music of a collection of souls in intimate communication. It is
irresistible, it lures us in, it makes addicts of us and we become lost in
trying to communicate the incommunicable.
Perhaps those needing support need distraction from the Kundalini. It does
it's work quite effectively without our meddling. Detachment from the all
the preconceived ideas of Kundalini will speed up its action. All the
"facts" and well-intentioned support only foster clinging on to the pain.
So it's incongruous that you use your cast a spell to snare people. If you
must meddle, why not focus your Gnosis on freeing them? And why do you now
choose to dissipate the power of your spell by talking about it?
But I suppose it is our lot in life as men and women to meddle. Ever
blundering with the fabric of reality in the belief that We Have Found the
Way! (and other's should too....)
This is truly beautiful.
Jason.
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 00:48:31 -0600
From: Athena <starwindATnospamgte.net>
To: AF <morgandATnospamerols.com>
Subject: Ctrl/Alt/Del
Message-ID: <34BC5FBF.5786ATnospamgte.net>
Hehehehe... humor among the microchips
*****************
Ctrl+Alt+Delete
(Author Unknown)
Don't you wish when life is bad
and things just don't compute,
That all we really had to do
was stop and hit reboot?
Things would all turn out ok,
life could be so sweet
If we had those special keys
Ctrl, Alt, and Delete
Your boss is mad, your bills aren't paid,
your hubby, well he's just mute
Just stop and hit those wonderful keys
that make it all reboot
You'd like to have another job
but you fear living in the street?
You solve it all and start anew,
Ctrl, Alt, and Delete
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:38:29 +0100
From: "Sen Ashanka"<sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Gradual awakening
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Alan wrote :
>May I proffer a topic for discussion. Much attention has been focused on
the
>sudden awakening of kundalini and its dramatic effects, but my experience
with
>meditators has been that the kundalini more usually awakens gradually and
>gently over an extended period of time, bringing about the same
progressive
>transformation that we all understand but without the flash-bang-wallop we
>traditionally tend to associate with the process. Such meditators usually
feel
>energy currents around their bodies and the build up of inner power but
>because it all takes place naturally and gradually, many will not
associate
>this process with kundalini awakening unless/until there is strong spinal
>activity. IMO this gradual awakening should be considered the norm,
initiating
>a period of total inner purification (gestation perhaps?) from which will
come
>the eventual attainment of Divine Consciousness.
>
>Furthermore, where kundalini does awaken suddenly (as in my own case) I
>strongly suspect that this is simply taking off where we left off in our
>previous lives i.e. after a period of re-capitulation and allowing for
karma,
>the kundalini will awaken quickly so that we may resume our interrupted
>journey. This would explain its apparent suddenness and why people often
feel
>that they have not done anything specifically to awaken it - they did all
that
>last time around! It might also explain why some yogis are not aware of
>kundalini arousal prior to Self-Realisation: they have not experienced the
>symptoms of any sudden awakening or anything within them that cannot be
>explained by the idiom of their own particular path.
>
>With blessings,
>Alan
Correctly said, Alan. As in my personal case K awakening was extremely
smooth process because of regular meditation, almost 2-3 hours daily.
Gradual process takes place under the will and guidance of a Guru who
directs the energies up the correct channel (the shushumna nerve chord)
and then the aspirant feels the energy channelised.
However, God is Infinite, and has Infinite manifestations, so am not sure
if we could positively say that this is the norm or that is the norm.
In the life of Sri Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa, He had felt extreme surges
of energy and some of them resulted in hectic physical activity as well as
heat in the body. He saw Mother Godess Kali and was overwhelmed with
emotion and sould go about crying and dancing and talking to Mother.
Persons around initally thought Him mad, but later the Truth dawned on
them.
Secondly, at the expense of repeating myself, we can only experience what
K-awakening does to us and share these experiences. Any attempt to
explaining any of the phenomena IMHO is besides the point and does not
lead us to where K leads us. When K awakes in us we just follow........
Regards
Ashanka
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