1998/01/12 12:22
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #33
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 33
Today's Topics:
Re: Spiritual Emergence [ LilEli <LilEliATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Spiritual Emergence/G.Lee adds [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Evil [ RadiantTch <RadiantTchATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Spiritual Emergence [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re[2]: Spine chills... [ "Jeremy Chevrier" <jeremy_chevrierATnospam ]
Re: My kundalini awakened fully unkn [ "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.e ]
Re: Mokhs vs.Nirvan [ "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.e ]
Re: My kundalini awakened fully unkn [ "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.e ]
Energies [ Debbie Baldock <mistyATnospamronscomputers ]
Re: Spiritual Emergence [ Qwartz <QwartzATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Energies [ "danelle t" <danelletATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Re: My kundalini awakened fully unkn [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Re: Energies [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
SEN website/Safe houses [ ori <oriATnospameskimo.com> ]
Re: understanding [ "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.e ]
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:58:29 EST
From: LilEli <LilEliATnospamaol.com>
To: trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Spiritual Emergence
Message-ID: <e4afd069.34ba2186ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-01-11 20:19:59 EST, trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu writes:
<< I just received a letter from a therapist on this list who says
that I should not be offering advice as I did in "Kundalini Sprouts" that
say we should send Daniel stabilizing energy by transmitting our love and
care to him. >>
Lisa here..
I don't see how we could ever hurt anyone by transmitting our love
and care to them as you suggest Ruth.
I do not see myself as qualified to comment on the state of the
psychiatric field, however, it is not a far stretch of my logic to see
the two extremes of possibilities. And having been a very lucky
survivor of an ob/gyn near disaster I too have turned inside to seek
my own truth.
Something I wanted to share from Yvonne Kason's book "A Farther
Shore" on kundalini...she mentions at the very end of her appendix
the following...
"The Spiritual Emergence Network is an international information
service, which can provide referrals to therapists and doctors
experienced in counselling persons haveing psycho-spiritual crises.
Readers wishing a referral to a therapist in their area can call S.E.N.
in Santa Cruz, CA at (408) 426-0902."
Perhaps Dan (or anyone else) if you are still out there and feel that
seeking professional help is what you want to do, maybe this
organization can refer you to someone knowledgeable enough
to guide you to finding peace. I certainly wish that for you.
I also, along with Ruth and many others, will continue to transmit
loving and healing thoughts to you.
Lisa
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:59:13 PST
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, spiral-3ATnospamworldnet.att.net
Cc: trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu
Subject: Re: Spiritual Emergence/G.Lee adds
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>Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>wrote:
>
> This list is
>> GREAT...
>> There are not too many places where
>> one can blast a whole profession! And so far I have only had dismay
and
>> apologies from the professionals in this field... **! I let it all
out..
>> I did.. phew.. it felt good ... now I have to find a list to blast
the
>> OB/GYN's whom I feel let me down equally badly! Haha..
>> Hope we are all smiling....
>> Ruth
>>
>
>I know you all really have no idea what transpired between Ruth and
myself this evening, but I
>think the entire list owes me one for facilitating Ruth's catharsis
tonight. Spirit moves in
>mysterious ways. Ruth, you're quite special.
>
>Love,
>
>Spiral
>
>S. Gregory Gilliam, Ph.D.
>Licensed Clinical Psychologist
>Jungian Psychotherapy and Dreamwork
>Phone: (773) 935-1364
>Email: spiral-3ATnospamworldnet.att.net
>
>
Gloria Lee here: heheh.. and I thought it was me who made Ruth so
cathartic...chastising her advice to Dan..I shall attempt to be brief
with my points here.. But I feel somewhat unheard and unlistened to.
1. I mostly chastised Ruth for advising Dan and assuming so much without
having first even READ his story in *My awakening*posted. This
undoubtedly lead to her not even knowing what I was referring to about
his other issues, sorting out bi-polar, life stresses, and Kundalini.
2. I had also mentioned to Dan that there is the Spiritual Emergence
Network... they have a webpage.. several books by Christina and
Stanislav Grof. We do not need to re-plow a field already planted.
The books are excellent..however the listing of spiritually aware,
transpersoanl therapists is a bit meager. Many, and I mean Many MORE
are out there though..if one goes looking and merely ASKS. I am part of
a group of Women Healers..there are 5 out of 20 of us who are also
therapists.. all have Kundalini, do reiki, samyama.. there has been an
explosion of alternative healing..and why Ruth would you assume that a
reccomendation TO FIND A PROFESSIONAL.. meant throwing Dan to the
wolves?? Had I not already said that I was appalled at how he was
treated in the hospital?? Dan had said he was afraid to talk to ANYONE
about his experiences..and was going to pretty much go it alone.
3. Ruth, you also mentioned anger at OB/GYNs...women have suffered so
much trauma around birth issues...try not to forget childbirth was so
risky it was a wonder anyone survived it just even a hundred years ago,
so the emotional niceties are the frosting on the cake. I do a lot of
work with healing around these mother-infant bonding issues.
BUT..let us not attribute "evil intent" where there was merely ignorance
and the usual blindness to human needs. Compassion for your OWN hurts
and healing them helps you and ALL of humankind,and merely venting anger
is perhaps a start...but it distresses me to see the blame projected out
there on evil men and bad therapists. We, as women, are not served by
that approach either. To say *THEY* ought to have known better is the
same as saying *WE* ought to have known better. When you DO your own
healing work, your wounds are *ours* and we all benefit from this. Then
it is becomes possible to have compassion for the victimizer as well as
the victim.. and to move beyond that paradigm of blame completely.
4. We do hope that what we have learned and experienced with Kundalini
will somehow pave the way and make it easier for others. A discussion of
how we might serve that would be productive. Dan is a good place to
start..tho we already, of course, have sparked disagreements..this is to
be expected..consenus cannot emerge until much later in this process of
exploring alternative suggestions.. and of course, Dan himself decides,
anyway.
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:22:09 EST
From: RadiantTch <RadiantTchATnospamaol.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Evil
Message-ID: <13e04059.34ba3522ATnospamaol.com>
(Written in a different format, but could be applied to the current discussion
about professional therapies......)
What is Evil?
And should we be scared of it?
Let's look at the causes of "evil" behavior, to see if we might come to some
understanding of it, thereby coming to some different conclusions as to how to
deal with it....
My belief is that all behavior acted out in the world (by everyone), is a
direct reflection of how that person has come to know and feel about SELF
during his/her lifetime experiences. People treat others the way they
themSELVES feel that they should be treated. This is not a conscious logical
choice, but rather subconscious programming from, most importantly, the
childhood and adolescence, and those beliefs being confirmed over and over
again into adulthood.
Self-worth is a basic core issue that all of us are dealing with, and coming
to understand. The "head" may argue that the self definitely has a certain
amount of worth (most likely the ego talking), but that person's actions
toward self and others are the true indicators of that worth. When a person
has a knowing and feeling of worth inside, his/her actions toward self and
others reflects that in a way that leaves any observers without doubt as to
that person's amount of self-worth. Actions always speak louder than mere
words.
When I treat others with love and respect, that is a direct indicator that I
have, at least, that amount of love and respect for myself. Or I may treat
others with huge amounts of love and respect, but give myself none, and engage
in self-sabotaging behaviors. The true inner core belief (subconscious)
always wins out over the "head" and its thinking, until conscious efforts to
understand and change the "old tapes" are exerted.
In general, murderers, rapists, and such, grew up in an environment that never
nurtured their self aspects, their true worth and loveability. In fact, the
opposite usually occurs. Some of these children grew up in homes where
violence was acted out on them by people close to them, thereby accelerating
the feeling/knowing that self isn't worth very much. These children grow up
and emulate what they were taught.
Some of these children grew up in homes of neglect, again confirming to them
that they aren't worth very much in society, and again, acting out on society
what they have learned about themselves.
Some children grew up where power was asserted "over" them in a sexual manner,
and go on as teens and adults, acting out that behavior learned. And where
there are no or small amounts of self-worth to begin with, based on the
environment these children grew up and learned in, there is no want or desire
to be anything different than what they already know of themselves. Why
improve? They're worthless anyway (their false conditioning) - may as well
just stay that way. They don't feel as if they are worth even improving, and
don't have the belief that they could be any other way.
And most all people grew up in an environment that taught what you "must do"
to "get" love and respect, to one degree or another. Very few of us were
taught that we were loved unconditionally, just because we were/are who we
were/are, and for no other reason. Some people have learned that people who
love them treat them violently (or with neglect, or with rape or incest,
etc.), so they have a twisted view of what love is, and act it out to "show"
love. ETC........
So, keeping this train of thought in mind, does evil per se' really exist? I
believe that all humans are inherently good; all humans are Divine extensions
of God (or whatever your term for a higher power is). All humans do not know
this, feel this, or act on this, but I believe it is there anyway. My belief
is that evil is only ignorance, and that any "self" has the potential to be
loving towards all others.
What would this world be like, then, if we still had our trials and jails, but
while being imprisoned, these people were given a sort of love therapy, to
increase their sense of self-worth and self-love? And to continue on from
these programs into applicable programs based on HOW to change their old tapes
(while still continuing the love therapy)?
What would these people be like when they emerged from prison? How likely
would it be that they would be TRULY reformed (transformed)? I look forward
to the day when people realize that all so-called evil people are just sick -
sick with diseased thinking & perceptions, so-to-speak, and that all they need
are some helping hands UP. It may takes months, it may takes years (dependent
on each individual's progress), but people are inherently worth that time,
love, and attention, to help them make the transition from one world (self-
hate and acting that out) into the next (love, forgiveness of previous self's
ignorance, and acceptance of self, past and present).
Think of the differences that could be made to and within this world with the
application of love....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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"What is Evil?" Copyright 1997 by Barbara Ellen Catteau, R. Hy, ULM
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:20:04 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Spiritual Emergence
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David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> wrote:
>Louis Conjar wrote:
>
>> we are preparing the way for
>> others and that our "purification" will make it easier for them in their
>> awakening. I hope that's true.
>
>Yes, this is true.
>We see this occur in science. It is known as acquired knowledge.
>Each generation begins with an ever more evolved start.
>It is the same with Consciousness.
>
>I sense an impending "boom".
>
>Anyone else?
Seems to me we're in the middle of it.
What with being sick and spending four years taking care of my mother, I
was out of circulation for a while. Coming back, I couldn't believe how
much the world has changed. It's wonderful!
Ann
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 98 07:10:45 PST
From: "Jeremy Chevrier" <jeremy_chevrierATnospamccmlink.dph.sf.ca.us>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re[2]: Spine chills...
Message-Id: <9800128846.AA884623514ATnospamccmlink.dph.sf.ca.us>
Thank you for your in depth response...
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Subject: Re: Spine chills...
Author: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com at ~DPH-INTERNET-MAIL
Date: 1/9/98 12:57 AM
---someone wrote----
>Does anyone know what it means when you get chills up the spine like a
>snake wriggling? It causes my whole body to shake and then tingle.
>This happens about 30 times a day.
This is what happens to persons practicing a type of yoga known as
"kriya yoga". The word "kriya" in Sanskrit means action / activity.
In this the meditator experiences lot of sensations all over the body and
the body also tends to take up the yogic postures by itself.
The following explanation comes from the Indian scriptures. There is
no "scientific" proof of this yet, but when you experience it you know
these to be true. There has ben discussion on the scientific proofs,
and I am not going into this right now. The explanation is presented :
Explanation :
We have a gross body (matter, flesh, bones, etc) and a subtle body
which controls mentally the gross body. This subtle body has got three
main nerves. The central "sushumna" nerve that runs approximately
near the spinal cord, then there are two nerve channels, the "ingla"
and the "pingla".
The Kundalini lies at the base of the "sushumna" and blocks all
our spiritual energy. When this is awake, the energy comes out
like a fountain. In Kundalini yoga the yogi, through concentration,
tries to make the kundalini rise up the "sushumna" nerve up to the
top of the head, and in doing so, the seven energy centers ("chakras" )
are activated. Each "chakra" is associated with giving spiritual
powers to the yogi.
So, the chills up the spine like the tail wiggling is the kundalini
rise. The kundalini is felt in the subtle body like a snake,
wiggling and slashing about.
Normally kundalini awakening is catalysed by the energy
transfger from a guru. However, there are lots of cases of spontaneous
K-awakening. This happens due to accidental over-activity of
the subtle body, (highly emotional states, of exited states), or
by the remote will of the guru.
So, such energy surges are due to K-awakening, a feeling
that you should welcome, and enjoy. If you get guidance in
meditation from a place you are comfortable with, then you
could reach very advanced levels of spiritual growth followed
by acquiring of mental and spiritual powers.
Cheers and love to all
Ashanka
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:58:15 -0500
From: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: vijaykumATnospamdel2.vsnl.net.in, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, hlutharATnospamkeynes.bryant.edu,
anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com
Subject: Re: My kundalini awakened fully unknown to me !!
Message-Id: <34BA59B7.74FCATnospamacad.bryant.edu>
Harsh K. Luthar wrote:
>
> Please pardon Harsha for his humor. He absolutely cannot help it!
>
> vijay kumar wrote:
> >
> > Dear fellow members,
> > I have recently joined the list. Posting what I have learnt in journey
> > towards GOD. My kundalini awakened fully unknown to me !!
>
> Harsha writes: You must have known something was up!
>
> >
> > Story of my experience :
> > Having "Realized-God" in 1993, I am able to -
> > * Understand the hidden truths of all scriptures of
> > all religions of the world.
>
> Harsha: I think you and Peshwani need to talk and work this out! He is
> saying the same thing! Who is right?
>
> > * (I) Talk to 'God, the Creator' every moment of my life.
>
> Harsha writes: Thanks for squeezing out the time to talk to us!
>
> snip..
>
> > Being my last sojourn on Mother Earth, I have to impart
> > the cosmic knowledge to those who truly seek the "wisdom
> > of the East".
>
> Harsha consoles: This being your last trip, I can understand your
> desparation!
>
> >
> > No further life after death of this body ... To Emancipate forever
>
> Harsha bids farewell: So long. See you later, Alligator!
>
> snip.....
> > Vijay Kumar ...
> > (The man who realized God in 1993)
>
> Harsha adds: and immediately became a comic and went on his mission to
> make make people laugh, therebye raising the quality of their life!
> >
> > >
> > snip....
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:18:47 -0500
From: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: david.bozziATnospamsnet.net
Cc: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Mokhs vs.Nirvan
Message-Id: <34BA5077.B69ATnospamacad.bryant.edu>
Very nicely written David. Beautiful. What is Top and What is Bottom? My
center is Everywhere!
Harsha
David Bozzi wrote:
>
> Peswani wrote:
>
> > All life is climbing up the hill of evolution.
>
> I suppose that is one perspective.
>
> > So each of us human beings is climbing this mountain of
> > evolution and this mountain is covered with d ense forests.
>
> Use your wings.
>
> > And hence we cannot climb straigt as the top is invisible
>
> We see what we want to see.
>
> > This climbing of mountain always requires effort and also is cause
> > of pain. As all of life climbs we devolop fear , jealousy, hatred etc. for
> > co-travellers if we do not know them.
>
> Maybe we should stop climbing. Put away the struggle and realize that
> "the top" is everywhere.
>
> Meet me Here.
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:13:52 -0500
From: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: vijaykumATnospamdel2.vsnl.net.in
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: My kundalini awakened fully unknown to me !!
Message-Id: <34BA4F50.79F1ATnospamacad.bryant.edu>
Please pardon Harsha for his humor. He absolutely cannot help it!
vijay kumar wrote:
>
> Dear fellow members,
> I have recently joined the list. Posting what I have learnt in journey
> towards GOD. My kundalini awakened fully unknown to me !!
Harsha writes: You must have known something was up!
>
> Story of my experience :
> Having "Realized-God" in 1993, I am able to -
> * Understand the hidden truths of all scriptures of
> all religions of the world.
Harsha: I think you and Peshwani need to talk and work this out! He is
saying the same thing! Who is right?
> * (I) Talk to 'God, the Creator' every moment of my life.
Harsha writes: Thanks for squeezing out the time to talk to us!
snip..
> Being my last sojourn on Mother Earth, I have to impart
> the cosmic knowledge to those who truly seek the "wisdom
> of the East".
Harsha consoles: This being your last trip, I can understand your
desparation!
>
> No further life after death of this body ... To Emancipate forever
Harsha bids farewell: So long. See you later, Alligator!
snip.....
> Vijay Kumar ...
> (The man who realized God in 1993)
Harsha adds: and immediately became a comic and went on his mission to
make make people laugh, therebye raising the quality of their life!
>
> >
> snip....
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 04:42:24 +1100 (EST)
From: Debbie Baldock <mistyATnospamronscomputers.com.au>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Energies
Message-Id: <199801121742.EAA11450ATnospamfusion.mel.sprint.com.au>
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Hi all..
May I ask how do you balance the energies/// so there not so many ups and
downs...?
especially if you are not into yoga and such.?
Does there have to be a huge lifestyle change?
thanks Debbie
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:40:44 EST
From: Qwartz <QwartzATnospamaol.com>
To: LilEliATnospamaol.com
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Spiritual Emergence
Message-ID: <d9178ac.34ba559eATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-01-12 09:00:14 EST, you write:
<< Something I wanted to share from Yvonne Kason's book "A Farther
Shore" on kundalini...she mentions at the very end of her appendix
the following...
"The Spiritual Emergence Network is an international information
service, which can provide referrals to therapists and doctors
experienced in counselling persons haveing psycho-spiritual crises.
Readers wishing a referral to a therapist in their area can call S.E.N.
in Santa Cruz, CA at (408) 426-0902."
>>
This is so wonderful Lisa! Thank you for sharing it! I was wondering if there
was something like this very thing out there. I hope this is of some help to
Daniel.
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:54:51 PST
From: "danelle t" <danelletATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Energies
Message-ID: <19980112175452.6978.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Debbie-
Hello and blessings to you first off! :-) For me I balance my
energies through sinple meditation. I am not very familiar with yoga
although I do focus on breath when meditating. I also find that if I
had a particularly chaotic energy day I come home and take a bath
letting allthe balance come from the healing water. The only large
lifestyle change that I have faced is the problem o f dealing with large
crowds. I am so open and doing so much clearing right now that i find
it difficult to close off and therefore get bombarded when there are a
lot of people around. For each person there is their own way on the
path that will work for them...I hope you find yours soon!
Blessed Be-
danelle
always look within.....thru the clouds of emotion the answers you search
for can be found.
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:58:25 PST
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: hlutharATnospambryant.edu
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: My kundalini awakened fully unknown to me !!
Message-ID: <19980112175826.8465.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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still smiling here: G.Lee cannot help *IT* either
>Harsh K. Luthar wrote:
>>
>> Please pardon Harsha for his humor. He absolutely cannot help it!
>> (In lieu of pardon,I have an old tattered "get out of jail free" card
from a deceased Monopoloy game, tho Winking will do as well in a pinch.)
Shall we start a new 12-step program for the likes of Harsha, David
Bozzi, and Jack?? Cosmic Comics Anonymous comes to mind.. step 1. I
admit I cannot resist poking fun at the *enlightened*
>> vijay kumar wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear fellow members,
>> > I have recently joined the list. Posting what I have learnt in
journey
>> > towards GOD. My kundalini awakened fully unknown to me !!
>>
>> Harsha writes: You must have known something was up!
>>
>> >
>> > Story of my experience :
>> > Having "Realized-God" in 1993, I am able to -
>> > * Understand the hidden truths of all scriptures of
>> > all religions of the world.
>>
>> Harsha: I think you and Peshwani need to talk and work this out! He
is
>> saying the same thing! Who is right?
>>
>> > * (I) Talk to 'God, the Creator' every moment of my life.
>>
>> Harsha writes: Thanks for squeezing out the time to talk to us!
>G.Lee would ask.. BUT do you listen?? (watch out for this, when God
starts talking back, it leads to no end of trouble..)
>> snip..
>>
>> > Being my last sojourn on Mother Earth, I have to impart
>> > the cosmic knowledge to those who truly seek the "wisdom
>> > of the East".
>>
>> Harsha consoles: This being your last trip, I can understand your
>> desparation!
>G.Lee sighs...now who will impart the "wisdom of the West"??
>> >
>> > No further life after death of this body ... To Emancipate
forever
>>
>> Harsha bids farewell: So long. See you later, Alligator!
>>
>> snip.....
>> > Vijay Kumar ...
>> > (The man who realized God in 1993)
>(Gloria wonders that it took him 5 years to find his way to us even??)
>> Harsha adds: and immediately became a comic and went on his mission
to
>> make make people laugh, therebye raising the quality of their life!
>> >
>G.Lee looked in her crystal ball.. and saw this was actually Harsha!!
>> > snip....
>
Harsha.. I will be mailing you a correspondence course in remedial
realization...you know what I mean.. you naughty boy..wink.
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:22:37 PST
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, mistyATnospamronscomputers.com.au
Subject: Re: Energies
Message-ID: <19980112182238.18924.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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>
>Hi all..
>May I ask how do you balance the energies/// so there not so many ups
and
>downs...?
>especially if you are not into yoga and such.?
>Does there have to be a huge lifestyle change?
>thanks Debbie
>
>
Huge change?? Well, yes.. but the good news is you can go at your own
pace... change will arise spontaneously in your outer life..as it
mirrors the work within. For the ups and downs, tho, .hmmm. The downs
are usually whatever is ready to come up for healing. If you feel
weepy, sad..be as kind and gentle with yourself as is possible, take
some time off if you can to avoid over-stress. When you have ups of
high energy, use them as productively as you know how. In general, take
as good a care of yourself as you know how... meditation will give you
some time to allow the process to happen. If you have more specific
questions.. ask here, you will get specific answers. The general ups and
downs are not to be avoided, but welcomed and invited into your
process..if you start wanting to resist, ask yourself what you fear??
Read some good books for general information..it helps to be informed
about what is happening to you. There is a booklist on the Kundalini
and a wealth of resources at www.spiritweb...but trying to totally avoid
these ups and downs is getting into resistance..how stressful is this
becoming to you??
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:27:16 -0800
From: ori <oriATnospameskimo.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: SEN website/Safe houses
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Hi all,
I wanted to add that the Spiritual Emergence Network's website lists
by state/country referrals to practitioners (registered with SEN):
http://elfnet1a.elfi.com:80/sen/
Also-- about the idea of a "safe house"
That has been the intent for my home that I set forth to the universe--
as a healing place for those in spiritual transition (including myself!)
I have a large home with 2 bedrooms and a bath upstairs which provides
a good space for someone needing a retreat. Although I've never had
to advertise except through word-of-mouth, "the universe" has provided
a steady stream of roomates/guests over the last 2 years who have stayed
for varying amounts of time.
I never would have dreamed that placing want ads in the Akashic Record
could really work. It is like "registering" availability in the Universal
newspaper. I'm still learning to trust this part of the process.
Now if only that relationship registration would just take effect ;)
ori
ori
oriATnospameskimo.com
http://www.eskimo.com/~ori/ori.html
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:45:59 -0500
From: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
Cc: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>,
kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: understanding
Message-Id: <34BA72F7.1ACFATnospamacad.bryant.edu>
Peswani wrote:
>
> > Every day higher intelligence selects a suitable and ready spirit to enter
> my body. This is happening with me. Because I have a desire to be
> Bodhisattva, I accept the spirit. I take up its ego and emotions.>
Harsha writes: It seems like you are becoming like a Borg Collective
(like in Star Trek-The Next Generation).
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>
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