1998/01/11 20:31
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #30
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 30
Today's Topics:
Spiritual Emergence [ Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> ]
Re: Unidentified subject! [ merlinATnospampnn.com ]
Re: Triviality and Confusion [ Louis Conjar <lconjarATnospamerols.com> ]
Re: Marijuana and K.? [ Susanne Macrae <smacraeATnospamcamtech.net ]
Re: Spiritual Emergence [ Louis Conjar <lconjarATnospamerols.com> ]
Re: Summary in regards to bi-polar [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: Spiritual Emergence [ freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net> ]
Re: Energy Flow Query [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: Spiritual Emergence [ tgxxxATnospamjuno.com (tg langston) ]
Re: Unidentified subject! [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) ]
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 15:17:10 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Spiritual Emergence
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Hi List.
I just received a letter from a therapist on this list who says
that I should not be offering advice as I did in "Kundalini Sprouts" that
say we should send Daniel stabilizing energy by transmitting our love and
care to him.
The highly qualified therapist says we should allow Dan to be
treated by a professional. This sounds very familiar to me...have I heard
this before? Indeed I have. I have been a victim of this treatment by
professionals and I am writing my book to debunk this whole field of
psychotherapy and psychiatry of their arrogant assumption that THEY know
how to help Kundalini awakened souls.
I have so many questions about their right to presume in this arena. When
I look at the training and subject matter of these professions, I am
horrified. Everything is "pathology."
I have seen the same thing in doctors who treat cancer patients.. all they
see is CANCER everywhere.. they are blind to other possible diagnoses! It
is part of how the training is conducted.
In this case and other K. cases, the only persons qualified to
speak and decide on these issues are those who have gone through the same
experience and have come out as teachers. Those who can see inside - the
subtle realms and the other dimensions with love and compassion have the
right to mediate. The only thing that is needed is to feed the person,
and make sure he does not harm himself or others.. and then let him be..
the problem will resolve after resting.. i.e. a body needs to recover with
rest.. why not a mind? Exercise and phsycial activityu is also very good.
I was lucky when I got my emergency (which has many characteristics of
Dans' and which other people have also claimed to have gone through);
I had Muktananda whose enlightened will instantly healed me. The doctors
were stunned. "How did that happen.. we had not even got time to prod and
poke and xray and diagnose let alone expend a fortune!" They did not
understand how I got in that state, nor how I got out of it.. not a clue
and admitted as much.. in fact they never even had a "name" for it. But I
knew who helped me become congruent again. IT was a true teacher. We hve
talked about this before... about the dangers if you do not have a teacher
who him/herself has not gone thorugh the full awakening...and perhaps we
are seeing this example now.
Such teachers are out there.. Shamans, witch doctors, transpersonal
therapists, psychic healers and enlightened beings of all walks of life
and all paths. These should be who
we go to for help in the matter of the mind. It is not for the "pathology"
maniacs and the pill pushers and the objective scientific community.
Someone has already said:
>>So he thought that the purpose of medication was to
maintain them until they got well. He said what people need in those
circumstances is care - a place to live, food, medicine if they need it,
etc. - for a few years until they're well. >>
This makes sense!
It doesnt have to be years.. it could be months or weeks. The other
religions in the world all have places for people to go through this.. and
to heal without being scared prodded and crippled for life. Why cannot a
Kundalini list advocate this humane treatment of a person whose
subconscious is turning over like a giant mattress?
At least here there should be some enlightened perspective on what this
person is going through so that he does NOT have to rely on the
psychiatric community!
Isn't it time we talked about Spiritual emergency?
*****
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 17:25:03 -0800 (PST)
From: merlinATnospampnn.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
Message-Id: <199801120125.RAA00659ATnospampnn.com>
> I seem to roar along until I run into the next
>stuck place, and then whap; thud, I'm on the floor again. Do other people do
>it this way?
Yup. I do it that way, more often than not!
> Is there some reason I am not understanding as to why I want everything
>wide open now? I mean, other than that it feels wonderful. It is my
>understanding that opening this way will allow me to remain functional as my
>kundalini rises..
>
>Lovely rule Ann, thank you. That certainly is a clearer statement of purpose
>than the golden rule for people with co-dependent tendencies. Not *me*, of
>course...
I like it too. I've printed out the silver rule to post on the refrigerator.
Maybe I should post it over the coffee pot so I'd see it first thing in the
morning.
Blessings.
Blythe
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:19:03 -0500
From: Louis Conjar <lconjarATnospamerols.com>
To: Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com>, hlutharATnospamkeynes.bryant.edu
CC: annfisherATnospammail.stic.net, heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com,
kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, lconjarATnospamerols.com
Subject: Re: Triviality and Confusion
Message-ID: <34B97D97.41C3ATnospamerols.com>
Harsh Luthar wrote:
>
> Gene Kieffer wrote:
> >
> > snip....
>
> > Nobody has yet come up with an response to my question of a week ago,
> > which is this: "How can one determine whether he/she is self-deluded or
> > has actually experienced a genuine awakening?"
> >
> snip....
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > gene
>
> Harsha writes: Dear Gene, You are obsessed with trivial things. This has
> been explained to you many many times so I will be quick. Kundalini
> Shakti manifests in a variety of ways. A genuine awakening of Kundalini
> in meditation leads to loss of body consciousness. Serious practice and
> harnessing the energy leads the Shakti higher and one experiences
> Superconscious states, celestial visions etc. When the visions are
> bright and clear, it indicates purity of mind. With the right practice
> and Self-Awareness one realizes the Self as the Heart, the Very Core of
> Being, as Pure Sat-Chit-Ananda, the Self-Existent Reality that is Whole,
> Complete, and Eternal by its very nature. I have explained this in much
> detail and you may wish to go to the Archives (December, 1997). Kurt
> Keutzer, myself and others were involved in that discussion. It should
> satisfy some of your curiousity. All of this comes from being
> intellectually oriented, and having very limited experience with the
> Shakti. You seem to believe (wrongly) that you Know what Kundalini is
> all about and even how others ought to experience it (to yours and Gopi
> Krishna's satisfaction). This is the fundamental cause of your
> confusion. Nothing can remove that confusion but extensive practical
> experience with the Shakti culminating in Self-Realization. Instead of
> posing questions to others ask yourself "Who am I," who asks these
> questions. Do not ask questions of others. It leads to continuing
> ignorance only, as the mind remains always extroverted. Ask only
> yourself, who You Are. Realize Who You Are Gene. That is the main thing.
> That is what gives life meaning. Everything else is relatively trivial.
> Realizing your Own Original Nature will end all your curiousity forever.
> Otherwise you will always be running around trying to prove this or
> that, even in your next life!. Stop the Running and be Still and Know
> Who You Are.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Harsha
Dear Gene,
A large part of me doesn't want to write this. I have been fighting the
impulse for a number of days. However, Harsha's post brought the issue
back in front of me, so here goes. I hope it comes out ok.
Gene, I know that you are a very good man. The fact that you have worked
so diligently to keep Gopi Krishna's writings alive and that you give
away so much material, without thought of profit, to spread the word
about Kundalini attest to your good intentions.
In fact, a number of years ago, when I was suffering the most from the
unrelenting flow of Kundalini and had lost everything because of not
being able to work, I sent letters to everyone who seemingly had any
knowledge of Kundalini asking for help. You were one of the few who even
took the time to reply to my letter and you did send me a few pamphlets
to read. So, I have no desire to cause you any distress.
However, for reasons I can only guess, the urge to make this statement
is too strong for me to continue ignoring. Perhaps it is important for
you, perhaps for me, for others on the list, for all of us ... I don't
know. But I have to say that I agree with Harsha. You will never be able
to get a satisfactory answer to your question about determining
self-delusion or genuine awakening by asking outside. You have to
experience a taste of Sat-Chit-Ananda in order to understand. When you
have experienced samahdi, there can no longer be any doubt. I tried to
express what this experience was like in an article on my website (page
www.deimarket.com/p0000262 if you are interested), but I'm afraid it
falls woefully short. There are no words to adequately describe the
experience. That is the problem. The ego needs words. The ego intellect
wants to know what the experience is like, but it cannot know. It cannot
accept the fact that there is only One of us here. There is only One
Being. You are It. I am It. We all are It. The ego sees separation where
there is none.
Over the past couple of weeks, I have found myself bristling over some
of your posts. As someone else stated, it is not always easy to
determine when you are serious and when you are joking. I knew you had
to be kidding about forming a Kundalini religion, but other than that,
I'm not sure whether you were kidding in some of your other posts. I
guess that I'm reacting the way I am to some of your posts because you
are hitting one of my "hot buttons". One of the sources of my
frustrations during the more difficult times of my Kundalini process has
been the fact that so many "experts" talk about Spiritual things in a
manner that suggests they are stating fact when, in reality, they are
expressing opinions or beliefs. Studying and reading about spiritual
experiences does not equal actual experience or "knowing".
I'm sorry, Gene, but to me, many of your posts come across as assertions
of truth about the Kundalini process when, in fact, they are not. They
seem to me to be coming from the intellect, not the part of self that
knows. I am curious about your experiences with Kundalini. Have you had
the kind of experiences that Gopi Krishna had? Do you say that you are
experiencing the Kundalini awakening process? I tried to determine that
by going back and re-reading some of what you have written, including
the introduction you wrote in the book you edited entitled "Kundalini:
Empowering Human Evolution, Selected Writings of Gopi Krishna". I saw no
reference to your own experiences. I do not mean this to sound unkind, I
truly would like to know. I'm trying to figure out where you are coming
from in some of your posts.
If you have had, or continue to have, Kundalini experiences, please
share them with us. If you have not, please consider re-phrasing some of
the things you write so that it doesn't sound so much like an assertion
of truth coming from someone who "knows". Again, maybe this is simply my
reacting to having my "buttons pushed". Maybe no one else has this sort
of reaction to your posts. I never said I was fully "enlightened" - far
from it. I have had continual Kundalini activity for almost seven years
and am frequently humbled by how little I know and understand.
We would all do well to follow Harsha's advice and go within, ask our
inner Self whatever we wish to know. The answers we seek are there.
I do hope you do not see this as a personal attack. It is not meant as
such. I apologize for the length of this post, but I was trying to find
the words to express what I felt without offending too much.
Love and Light,
Lou
--
Louis Conjar - Dynamic Expansion Institute, Inc.
"All Your Spiritual and Financial Needs In One Place"
lconjarATnospamerols.com - http://www.deimarket.com
410-385-9500 - fax 410-654-9587
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:33:59 +1030
From: Susanne Macrae <smacraeATnospamcamtech.net.au>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Marijuana and K.?
Message-ID: <34B97A0F.75089302ATnospamcamtech.net.au>
> > I am wondering about the effects of marijuana on kundalini energy, and also
> >how long afterwards the drug affects the aura. In my experience the
> >secondary physical/physiological effects can last a week.
I did a healing on a girl last week that had used marijuana only once 3 weeks
prior.She was still out of her body. Her energy was very fragmented. Marijuana
residue was
still in her aura around her head. She is not K awakened. I felt awful in her
presence.
When I first entered the room I wanted to leave. When I heal I take on the
other's
energy in order to release their pain/issues/blockages etc.
It has taken me a week to dissipate all the marijuana out of my aura. This is
much longer than it takes to release normally. Without the healing I did on her,
I feel the marijuana
would certainly still be affecting her - possibly for another few weeks.
With love, sue
--
Susanne Macrae
Phone: 61886844205
Email: smacraeATnospamcamtech.net.au
http://www.adelaide.net.au/~smacrae
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:36:51 -0500
From: Louis Conjar <lconjarATnospamerols.com>
To: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Spiritual Emergence
Message-ID: <34B981C3.2328ATnospamerols.com>
Ruth Trimble wrote:
>
> Hi List.
> I just received a letter from a therapist on this list who says
> that I should not be offering advice as I did in "Kundalini Sprouts" that
> say we should send Daniel stabilizing energy by transmitting our love and
> care to him.
> The highly qualified therapist says we should allow Dan to be
> treated by a professional. This sounds very familiar to me...have I heard
> this before? Indeed I have. I have been a victim of this treatment by
> professionals and I am writing my book to debunk this whole field of
> psychotherapy and psychiatry of their arrogant assumption that THEY know
> how to help Kundalini awakened souls.
>
> I have so many questions about their right to presume in this arena. When
> I look at the training and subject matter of these professions, I am
> horrified. Everything is "pathology."
> I have seen the same thing in doctors who treat cancer patients.. all they
> see is CANCER everywhere.. they are blind to other possible diagnoses! It
> is part of how the training is conducted.
> In this case and other K. cases, the only persons qualified to
> speak and decide on these issues are those who have gone through the same
> experience and have come out as teachers. Those who can see inside - the
> subtle realms and the other dimensions with love and compassion have the
> right to mediate. The only thing that is needed is to feed the person,
> and make sure he does not harm himself or others.. and then let him be..
> the problem will resolve after resting.. i.e. a body needs to recover with
> rest.. why not a mind? Exercise and phsycial activityu is also very good.
>
> I was lucky when I got my emergency (which has many characteristics of
> Dans' and which other people have also claimed to have gone through);
> I had Muktananda whose enlightened will instantly healed me. The doctors
> were stunned. "How did that happen.. we had not even got time to prod and
> poke and xray and diagnose let alone expend a fortune!" They did not
> understand how I got in that state, nor how I got out of it.. not a clue
> and admitted as much.. in fact they never even had a "name" for it. But I
> knew who helped me become congruent again. IT was a true teacher. We hve
> talked about this before... about the dangers if you do not have a teacher
> who him/herself has not gone thorugh the full awakening...and perhaps we
> are seeing this example now.
>
> Such teachers are out there.. Shamans, witch doctors, transpersonal
> therapists, psychic healers and enlightened beings of all walks of life
> and all paths. These should be who
> we go to for help in the matter of the mind. It is not for the "pathology"
> maniacs and the pill pushers and the objective scientific community.
>
> Someone has already said:
> >>So he thought that the purpose of medication was to
> maintain them until they got well. He said what people need in those
> circumstances is care - a place to live, food, medicine if they need it,
> etc. - for a few years until they're well. >>
> This makes sense!
> It doesnt have to be years.. it could be months or weeks. The other
> religions in the world all have places for people to go through this.. and
> to heal without being scared prodded and crippled for life. Why cannot a
> Kundalini list advocate this humane treatment of a person whose
> subconscious is turning over like a giant mattress?
>
> At least here there should be some enlightened perspective on what this
> person is going through so that he does NOT have to rely on the
> psychiatric community!
>
> Isn't it time we talked about Spiritual emergency?
> *****
I couldn't agree more. Perhaps if I had been able to have my basic needs
met without having to work a full-time job in order to keep a roof over
my head, my Kundalini process would not have been so difficult. I have
sworn that, if I ever become financially independent, I will do what I
can to create a kind of "safe house" for those going through a difficult
spiritual emergence. No one should have to go through what I have alone.
No one should have to worry about having their basic needs met when
going through something as difficult as this can be.
Having said that though, I realize that it could be (probably is) my ego
talking. Because I do trust that the Self knows exactly what It is doing
and, if it were to my benefit to have had more assistance while going
through the process, it would have manifested. I can see that some of
the wisdom I have gained from the process could not have been realized
without some of the difficult experiences and some of the blocks could
not have been cleared any other way.
--
Louis Conjar - Dynamic Expansion Institute, Inc.
"All Your Spiritual and Financial Needs In One Place"
lconjarATnospamerols.com - http://www.deimarket.com
410-385-9500 - fax 410-654-9587
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 18:20:53 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Gloria Lee <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
CC: danjgATnospamengin.umich.edu, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com,
heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
Subject: Re: Summary in regards to bi-polar
Message-ID: <34B8FF74.5E96ATnospamintercomm.com>
Gloria Lee wrote:
>
>
> Gloria Lee here: You are right..the *symptoms* may stop.. but then a
> year or two from now it may happen again..And Dan HAS INDEED done an
> exceptional job of coherently expressing and remembering a very
> disorienting experience. It is often well-remembered as is any
> emotionally intense experience. I still say, Dan would best serve his
> own needs and spiritual growth by finding a professional to talk this
> through..(and his OTHER issues..like the 2 homosexual incidents) to
> integrate this experience and what he regards as his insights from
> it...a healthy fear of repeating this mania is to be expected.. but
> please do not further the illusion of mind control as a solution.. there
> are deep emotional issues and chemical imbalances in the brain..neither
> Kundalini or *thought control* will prevent a possible recurrence. I
> know from all your other posts that you have much wisdom and a heart of
Dan, Gloria Lee offers you good suggestions, finding the professional
you trust and who will lead you through this is important, that doesn't
mean that inside you would not be told this anyway, most likely you
would be naturally brought help.
If you can see it as a chemical imbalance then perhaps you can take some
of the thoughts out of it, so it will calm down for you. Certainly you
do not want to increase kundalini activity in the midst of the storm.
Our love goes out to you, keep the faith that this is just a dark tunnel
you are moving through. Gloria Greco
> gold..but please reconsider your advice here to Dan. ok??
>
> ______________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 18:54:54 -0800
From: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
To: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Spiritual Emergence
Message-ID: <34B985FE.407FATnospamblarg.net>
Ruth writes:
> The highly qualified therapist says we should allow Dan to be
> treated by a professional. This sounds very familiar to me...have I heard
> this before? Indeed I have. I have been a victim of this treatment by
> professionals and I am writing my book to debunk this whole field of
> psychotherapy and psychiatry of their arrogant assumption that THEY know
> how to help Kundalini awakened souls
freda here: I also suffered the care of "professionals" but I certainly
do NOT
think that the "whole field" of psychotherapy and psychiatry is at fault
here.
I am certain that there are many in the those fields who are also K-A.
It was one of the "professionals" who first told me about Kundalini. She
walked me out to my car after a session once and gave me some reading
material.
I had no idea what the heck it ment, But it sure was good reading. And
I'll be!!!....
that's all it took to set me strait. Even though I didn't understand it
at the time, it
opened a window. NEED I say that she was the LAST "professional" I saw.
AND the most tramatic of my experiences were YET to come. I still had to
work through
a lot of crap - turning my belief system inside out.
My point is that there ARE people out there who do recognize the sympoms
of K who are
ALSO "professionals." [Wouldn't it be nice if there were a place to
"recomend" a therapist?,]
The trouble in Dan's situation is that he IS in crisis. It's a little
late for Dan to be
searching for a compatable therapist. If his parents are going to have
him committed, then he needs
to take steps to help himself now. [unless his path lies in finding
enlightenment on a mental ward]
HIS choices are few, at least that is how it sounds to me. And judging
from his Enlightenment essay,
he is a danger to both himself and others.
I think it a nice gesture to send him stabilizing energy by transmitting
our love and
care, but a reality check may be in order for Dan.
Maybe he should ask God to lay off for awhile while the world slows
down? And when it does....
find a professonial who is of like mind. BEFORE the next crisis!
..freda..
BE-IS-AM ...manifesting again...
http://www.blarg.net/~freda/01rg/hm/frhm.htm
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:02:50 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: Susanne Macrae <smacraeATnospamcamtech.net.au>
Subject: Re: Energy Flow Query
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Susanne Macrae <smacraeATnospamcamtech.net.au> wrote:
>>....I emptied the washing machine, waiting
>>for it to finish emptying as I always do. The water always flows in a
>>clockwise
>>direction down the drain. Today the water started flowing in a very rythmic
>>backwards and forward motion ...
>>
>>(This reminded me of an experience with the Akashic Records. The way the
>>Records are
>>recorded is changing....
>>
>>Thinking this water thing very strange I decided to get out the aerial
>>map of
>>the farm and check the land energy. ...
>>On checking the map (with my pendulum) I discovered the land energy is barely
>>moving. This applies to our neighbours as well. About 7 months ago a new
>>vortex (earth chakra) formed in the creek at the back of the house....
>>
>>Something definitely strange is afoot and I have a feeling it isn't just
>>here.
>>Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?
>>
>>(I am only here today and then will be gone for a week)
A quick note - that's all I have time for. Please contact Christan Hummel
<chbabaATnospamaol.com>. I also have a web page for her group but haven't gone to
look yet:
http://www.earthtransitions.com
Her snailmail address (as if you needed that) is
4603 Twin Haven Rd.
Oceanside, CA 92057
I also have an office number - not sure who's there - (760) 722-5555.
Let us hear more as soon as you can!
Love,
Ann
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:11:14 -0500
From: tgxxxATnospamjuno.com (tg langston)
To: trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, butterbean6ATnospamjuno.com
Subject: Re: Spiritual Emergence
Message-ID: <19980111.221139.4430.0.tgxxxATnospamjuno.com>
<<Isn't it time we talked about Spiritual emergency?>>
Ruth... I totally agree with what you are saying here. It is very
important IMO that we see Dan and others as perfect, whole, safe, and
complete, even while not seeing obvious outward signs. (blessed are ye'
who believe, yet do not see)
I remember when I went through my own psychosis, insanity, and
healing.... I had to move in with my mom, who luckily was into
metaphysics also, and is an extremely wise woman. During a quick moment
of sanity within my insanity, I asked her to please always see me as well
and perfect, no matter what happened and what may occur. She agreed to
do this, and as far as I'm concerned, this is what got me through the
insanity so quickly, her faith in my healing when I couldn't give faith
myself. It helps to know that someone believes in your complete healing!
(hey you can't beat those mom's of the world!) The healing period was
lengthy, but needed, and has become a blessing, as much internal work was
done during this healing. I came out of the whole thing a different
person, and am beginning to love who I have become. The peace and quiet
surroundings I see as a definite yes in the healing process. Just to
allow nature to take its course and heal itself.
So to give the Golden Rule to Dan, I give him my blessings, and know that
I believe he'll get through this perfectly fine. That kid has a grand
future ahead of him...
xxxtg
* Did "George of the Jungle" not teach us anything? -- "Watch out for
that tree!!" *
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html <~~~~~~ on the web now!
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 03:06:09 GMT
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
Message-ID: <34ba889d.38380790ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net>
Most of my work is in the lower three chakras.
Is there some reason I am not understanding as to why I want
everything ide open now? I mean, other than that it feels wonderful.
It is my understanding that opening this way will allow me to remain
functional as my kundalini rises...marginally so, anyway...I haven't
propositioned a tree for a least three months...
It often has a very strong senual [sexual?] feel in me. Does that
happen to everyone?
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I don't know about anyone else but it's certainly applies to me.
I too work on the lower three chakras right now. Every three to four
days, with abstinence, my level of sensual ( read; horniness ) gets to
a point that even the house plants are in danger. At the same time I
seem to be able to go into deep meditation almost immediately and for
a good 60-90 minutes. If I do this, I feel refreshed and much calmer.
Any manifestations occuring in meditation seem much clearer and my
understanding of such,more in depth. Then the process begins again.
Before I got the gist of meditating this level of sensuality was
draining my energy.
Jack
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