1998/01/08 12:12
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #17
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 17
Today's Topics:
Re. Summary [ Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Watches [ Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin. ]
Re: Watches [ Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin. ]
Re: Summary [ Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin. ]
Re: Re. Summary [ Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin. ]
Introduction [ "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> ]
Travels to the other side of reality [ lvdsATnospamstdin.gatelink.fr.net (Laurent ]
E.S.O. book question [ lvdsATnospamstdin.gatelink.fr.net (Laurent ]
Re: Summary [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) ]
RE: Summary [ Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.co ]
RE: Summary [ Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin. ]
Re: Summary [ Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin. ]
Re: genuine or delusion [ Delirium <deliriumATnospamfull-moon.com> ]
Re: Re. Summary [ jeannegATnospamicon.net (Jeanne Garner) ]
Xan Yin - Super Psychic (fwd) [ Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> ]
Re: Re. Summary [ Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin. ]
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:53:02 EST
From: Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com>
To: danjgATnospamengin.umich.edu
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re. Summary
Message-ID: <c2771b2f.34b4f660ATnospamaol.com>
>I have learned everything I can from the kundalini experience and
>from being on this list
Dan, that has to be the saddest statement I have heard from anybody for a very
long time, whether referring to kundalini or anything else. Living is learning
and loving. How can you ever stop learning unless you deliberately block
yourself off?
Open your mind, Dan, then your heart will follow!
Blessings through the gloom,
Alan
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:20:10 -0500 (EST)
From: Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin.umich.edu>
To: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Watches
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> The electromanetic fields (or what ever) may be insignificant to you,
> but I tried over the holiday to wear a watch again and.... I lost 15 min
> in the first few days, reset the watch and it began to loose time
> quicker the longer I wore it. I gave up. Who needs em' anyway?
It's the watch, not you.
Dan
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:26:17 -0500 (EST)
From: Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin.umich.edu>
To: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Watches
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> quicker the longer I wore it. I gave up. Who needs em' anyway?
True, who needs em.
Dan
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:25:24 -0500 (EST)
From: Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin.umich.edu>
To: Jack <sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Summary
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> I have learned everything I can from the kundalini experience and
> from being on this list. I will leave soon. Here is what I learned
> from the list:
Read the next posting. It took a while to write. I got pretty
worked up.
> you stick with engineering and leave the really difficult learning to
> us "Fantasy Prone Individuals".
I'm sorry if I have offended you.
I apologize again because the next message probably offended you
even more.
> your posting as, "A troll by any other name...........". Probably best
I think I can help move people by using my resources to do things
other than talk to email lists that call me a troll.
> But on second thought, you state that "You have learned everything you
> can" and I realized that you may be learning impaired. If that's the
> case, my apologies.
If you have something you believe you can teach me, please teach
it to me. If you believe I am not capable of learning it, feel free to
give up.
Dan
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:27:55 -0500 (EST)
From: Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin.umich.edu>
To: Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com>
cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Re. Summary
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> Dan, that has to be the saddest statement I have heard from anybody for a very
> long time, whether referring to kundalini or anything else. Living is learning
> and loving. How can you ever stop learning unless you deliberately block
> yourself off?
> Open your mind, Dan, then your heart will follow!
Do you have something to teach me? I'm listening. Most people on
the list just argue with each other about things they will never agree on
or have trouble agreeing on. Nobody teaches much.
Dan
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 12:21:30 -0400
From: "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com>
Subject: Introduction
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Hello everyone,
As one of my resolutions is to do less procrastinating, I will introduce
myself on this, my first day on this list. My name is Orea, I am 43,
been married 23 years, have a daughter who will be 21 this month and a
son who turns 15 this month. I live in northern Virginia.
I have been spiritually oriented all of my life, and am seeking here
more information on the kundalini energy, developing it, harnessing it
or guiding it in a positive manner...oh, I don't feel I am expressing
this well. I seek balance, information, and tools.
I seek understanding, some of it retroactive as things have been
happening for years that I only partially understand. One of the best
decisions I have made, in this regard, was to dispense with doubts and
intellectualizations for the most part, and just let things happen, and
learn from what is put before me. This has taken me to some interesting
places and perspectives.
I can't say for sure when the k awoke in me, but I am told that it was
when I was about six. I am working on acquiring and improving skills
such as grounding, etc. , but frankly I feel pretty ignorant at this
point.
My major form of service at this point in my life is donating
platelets. It takes about 3 hours of my time and I try to do it as
often as I am eligible, which is every 15 days. Words cannot convey how
very gratifying it is to me to be able to give a gift that is so very
important to the recipient. I truly feel honored to be able to do
this. (And the cookies aren't bad, either!) ;-)
My sister Blythe has been forwarding k-list nuggets and gems for several
months, and I have read them with interest. I look forward to learning
with you.
Blessings,
Orea
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 98 18:17:22 +0100
From: lvdsATnospamstdin.gatelink.fr.net (Laurent Cas)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Travels to the other side of reality.
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Hello dear list readers,
If some of you thinks the following is off topic, feel free to reply to
me in email; but i think this is related to Kundalini awakening very
much.
Since a lot of years i have been stuck with some kind of a problem.
During the day, i am able to put myself in alpha position awake and can
connect to the other side quite effectively. No need to talk about
meditation times. During night this is another story, and i really hope
someone will be able to help.
After a long day, when i put myself to bed, i always begin by a little
spiritual stuff. When my body is tired of the day, i receive flashes,
on a regular basis. Like if i was standing in a metro station waiting
for the next metro. I _know_ the flashes are the metro. When a flash come
i have two choices:
1. Stay where i am.
2. Take the metro.
...Stay where i am need efforts, as the flash seems to suck me up very
strong. When tired, i am not able to resist more than a few flashes.
Taking the metro is incredible, something like a booster very very
powerful; so much powerful i lost conscience. And this is my problem.
It tooks me through... well, i can't find words. If anybody sees the
tv serie "Sliders", this is what is happening to me, just like when
the characters in the serie slides to another world.
When i get conscience again, i am sometimes able to keep the "dream" up
a certain time, sometimes not. But anyway i always take the story in the
middle :-( For those who mind, it is sometimes interactive.
I would like to stay conscient at the metro travel so i could have the
whole story! _PLEASE_ if someone can help in anyway: i beg you to tell me.
I have this problem since more than 20 years.
...and, is this too much to ask to explain me how to decide of the
destination of the metro?!? ...As there are places i have been where
i would like very much to go back! :-))
If someone answers, please send me an email copy, as my mail list pointer is
actually on 15 of december :-)
Namaste',
Laurent.
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 98 17:48:14 +0100
From: lvdsATnospamstdin.gatelink.fr.net (Laurent Cas)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: E.S.O. book question
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Hello list readers,
A few weeks ago a few of you talked about a book "Extended sexual
orgams" of Alan & Dona Brauer. I haven't found this book translated
in my native language and does not have money to buy books from over
the ocean right now so, i was wondering if some people would be kind
to send me by email exercices i could practice with my girlfriend as
explained in the book...
If there is people round here that want to make a couple of people on
earth happy, my girlfriend and me would love to test :-)
We seems both have K.A., though her is quite recent. I recognised in her
awakening each of the symptoms i had.
Namaste',
Laurent.
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 17:48:42 GMT
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: danjgATnospamengin.umich.edu
Subject: Re: Summary
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I think I can help move people by using my resources to do things
other than talk to email lists that call me a troll.
No mercy, Daniel. The sympathy ploy doesn't work for me.
When does anyone ever learn all they can ?
I speak only for myself. What did you expect after joining a
specialized Newsgroup and then throwing everything that we believe
back in our faces.
I can't think of a single listmember who couldn't run circles around
the theories you imply after learning everything.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
Jack
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:09:24 -0500
From: Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: Summary
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Dan,
"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."
If you are not learning, ask yourself, "Am I ready?"
Not all teachers lecture.
Some wait to be asked.
If you have something you need to know, ask.
If you have nothing you need to know, why worry?
If you don't know what it is you need to know,
Then perhaps you are not ready to learn it yet.
All of us learn in our own ways,
And in our own time.
What to you is pointless arguing
Is to some an amusing distraction
And to still others the stuff of learning.
Seek for your own fountains of knowledge,
Wherever they may be.
But do not proclaim a fountain dry,
Just because you get no water from it.
That which parches your tongue
May quench the thirst of your neighbor.
- Mike
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:24:41 -0500 (EST)
From: Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin.umich.edu>
To: Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.com>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: RE: Summary
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> "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."
> If you are not learning, ask yourself, "Am I ready?"
>
> Not all teachers lecture.
> Some wait to be asked.
> If you have something you need to know, ask.
> If you have nothing you need to know, why worry?
> If you don't know what it is you need to know,
> Then perhaps you are not ready to learn it yet.
>
> All of us learn in our own ways,
> And in our own time.
> What to you is pointless arguing
> Is to some an amusing distraction
> And to still others the stuff of learning.
>
> Seek for your own fountains of knowledge,
> Wherever they may be.
> But do not proclaim a fountain dry,
> Just because you get no water from it.
> That which parches your tongue
> May quench the thirst of your neighbor.
Thank you for your refreshing encouragement.
I will relate the last of my theories to the list and take my
leave unless something strikes my fancy to stay for.
I thirst for a well of a different flavor.
Dan
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:32:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin.umich.edu>
To: Jack <sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Summary
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> No mercy, Daniel. The sympathy ploy doesn't work for me.
> When does anyone ever learn all they can ?
> I speak only for myself. What did you expect after joining a
> specialized Newsgroup and then throwing everything that we believe
> back in our faces.
> I can't think of a single listmember who couldn't run circles around
> the theories you imply after learning everything.
> Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
Please, Jack, I prefer silent detachment to voiced detachment or
anger. If you are angry with me, I don't know how I have wronged you nor
how to make ammends. Forgive my arrogence, as I am yet young.
Dan
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 12:42:04 +0000
From: Delirium <deliriumATnospamfull-moon.com>
To: Kundalini-l <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: genuine or delusion
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> Jack wrote:
>
> The kicker for me was not having heard about any of this until it
> happened to me. Found this list and was amazed that all had similar
> experiences, to the point that I could expect what was coming next.
> That was validation to me, salvation actually. And a hell of a lot of
> fun to boot : )>
>
> Delirium writes:
Yes, that is consistent with my experience as well. I was just poking
around on the internet the day that my first really strong experience
occurred and veritably stumbled across "Kundalini awakening"...and the
"symptoms" were familiar.
Cool enough for me!--D
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:44:47 -0600
From: jeannegATnospamicon.net (Jeanne Garner)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Re. Summary
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Daniel wrote:
> Do you have something to teach me? I'm listening. Most people on
>the list just argue with each other about things they will never agree on
>or have trouble agreeing on. Nobody teaches much.
You seem to imply that someone's supposed to do it all FOR you. The best
teachers, I've found, don't just pour some sort of learning into our heads.
It's more like leading us to places (of the mind or spirit) where we can
find what we seek. Sometimes they merely remind us what we once knew, but
have forgotten. Always, however, our participation--active--is required.
Unless we do what it takes to follow their lead, we learn nothing.
What have you been doing to try to learn?
Jeanne
==-* My stars!
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:49:00 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: LightWork-L email list <LIGHTWORK-LATnospamMB.PROTREE.COM>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Xan Yin - Super Psychic (fwd)
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An interesting story from China about science and psychic healing.
The story indicates the healing and transmutational powers of CHI
(kundalini) and the scientific evidence now being provided by the Chinese
for these phenomena.
> CHINA'S SUPER PSYCHIC
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> The amazing Chi Gong Master Yan Xin uses psychic energy to heal people
> and bend science by Paul Dong & Thomas Raffill
>
> Today, some people in mainland China call Yan Xin a miracle doctor.
> Others call him a super psychic. And still others consider him a new Ji
> Gong, an ancient Chinese Buddhist said to have had amazing powers to
> create and alter physical objects.
>
> All of these titles are appropriate. Many believe that Yan Xin can cure
> diseases, change molecular structures, conduct electricity with his body,
> help those confined to wheelchairs to get up and walk, and help people to
> throw down their canes and walk unassisted.
>
> In 1977, Yan Xin graduated from the College of Traditional Chinese
> Medicine in Chengdu, China, and begin work at the Chinese Medicine
> Research Institute in the city of Chongqing. There, he practiced a
> method of treatment using mind power instead of drugs. He helped
> patients with broken bones, diabetes, heart disease, traumatic paralysis,
> neurosis, rheumatism, hepatitis, and cancer. In the past few years, he
> has experimented in treating AIDS with some success.
>
> Unknown to many, the lives of some of China's top national leaders have
> been prolonged by his treatment. Among these is the famous scientist and
> "father of the Chinese A-bomb," Deng Jiaxian, who suffered from advanced
> rectal cancer. By June 27, 1980, Deng's life was almost at its end. His
> doctors' last hope was to ask Zhang Zhenghuan, head of the Chinese
> Exceptional Human Functions Research Association, to bring Yan Xin to
> give Deng a healing.
>
> As Zhang Zhenghuan and two doctors drove with Yan Xin to the hospital,
> they smelled a fragrance growing stronger and stronger. When they went
> into Deng Jiaxian's ward, they found that Deng's pain had stopped, and he
> was sitting up. Everyone was surprised, and they credited the power of
> Yan Xin.
>
> Later, Dr. Liu Huamin asked Yan Xin about the fragrance in the car.
> Yan Xin replied, "When I send my energy, I sometimes emit a sandalwood
> scent. After I got in the car, I started sending energy toward the
> hospital, and I was already relieving some of his symptoms." Yan Xin's
> treatment of Deng allowed a man on the edge of death to live another
> month without pain.
>
> Yan Xin has healed thousands of people. But some say his results are
> coincidental, no more than a placebo effect, or even fraud. His critics
> include scientists who have not actually done any research to investigate
> the claims. Once someone registered a complaint against Yan Xin with the
> Chongqing Municipal Health Department, accusing him of spreading "feudal
> superstitions" and requesting that his license to issue prescriptions
> be revoked.
>
> The Chongqing city government certified that there was no mistake in the
> records of Yan Xin's successful cases, but investigators wanted to test
> his powers in person. Yan Xin told the municipal inspector, Zeng Youzhi,
> to stand facing the wall, while he stood a few yards away. When he raised
> his hands and pushed forward, Zeng Youzhi was pushed into the wall. When
> Yan Xin pulled his hands back, Zeng started falling backward, until he was
> so frightened that he shouted for Yan Xin to stop.
>
> Liu Tiegang, a 39-year-old worker from Beijing, suffered from diabetes.
> His worried wife would often tell people, "I would gladly give everything
> we have to anyone who can cure my husband." On June 26, 1986, Yan Xin
> gave him a healing. First, they chatted a little. Yan Xin told him that
> it was a mirror illness and he had nothing to worry about. He told him to
> drink some water, then gave him a bottle of Coca-Cola.
>
> Liu said excitedly, "Usually people with diabetes don't dare drink this,
> but I did because he told me to." Then Yan Xin told him, "Drink three
> bottles of milk and sugar." Liu Tiegang did as Yan Xin said. Three days
> later, he was cured. From then on, he could eat whatever he wanted,
> including high-sugar grapes, apples, pears, oranges, and bananas. He
> never had a relapse of diabetes.
>
> How could Yan Xin have told a person suffering from diabetes to drink
> Coca-Cola? Wasn't that against common sense in medicine; wouldn't it
> make the patient worse? Not in Yan Xin's case. Believers say Yan Xin
> can change molecular structure and can turn Coca-Cola into ordinary water,
> or even into medicine for someone suffering from diabetes.
>
> PSYCHIC SCIENCE
>
> Beginning in December 1986, Yan Xin participated in several important
> scientific experiments at Qinghua University in China. Scientists put
> tap water in tightly sealed bottles, placed them in a dark room, and had
> Yan Xin send his energy to them for short distances. Afterward,
> scientists found the tap water had turned into water of a different
> molecular structure. This experiment was repeated many times with
> similar results. After this, they tested with saline, glucose solution,
> and thramycin solution, and all of these showed similar changes in their
> molecular structure.
>
> This was a new milestone in the history of chi (and psychic) research,
> one that poses a challenge to modern scientific theory. It wiped clean
> the prejudice some held of chi gong as a superstition thousands of years
> old, and it decisively refuted charges that chi gong is only a placebo,
> psychological suggestion, or hypnotism. When one professor, Gian Xuesen,
> read of these breakthrough results, he wrote, "This is a world first,
> proving indisputably that the human body can affect external objects
> without physical contact, changing their molecular states. This is an
> unprecedented work."
>
> The Qinghua University researchers did not rest on their laurels after
> this success. For their next experiment, they submitted an organic cell
> membrane to Yan Xin. Yan Xin used his psychic ability to change the
> molecular arrangement of the membrane. Next the scientists used complex
> DNA compounds and achieved similar results.
>
> The Chinese scientists became bolder and bolder in their experiments
> with Yan Xin and Exceptional Human Functions. Now, they dared to
> investigate whether EHF could change carbon monoxide to carbon dioxide.
> According to the principles of chemistry, this difficult reaction
> requires an air pressure of about 30 atmospheres (our atmospheric
> pressure times 30) and a temperature as high as 300 degrees Celsius.
>
> The researchers put hydrogen and carbon monoxide into a steel
> container able to withstand high heat and a pressure of 250 atmospheres.
> The pressure was only one atmosphere, and room temperature was 13
> degrees Celsius. Yan Xin sent out his chi energy, and the hydrogen
> and carbon monoxide in the container actually changed to carbon dioxide.
> It was a little more concentrated than the carbon dioxide naturally
> occurring in air. The Qinghua University researchers hardly dared to
> believe this result --- that psychic ability had taken the place of tens
> of atmospheres and 300 degrees of heat!
>
> YAN XIN VERSUS THE ATOM
>
> The next experiment was to bombard atomic nuclei with chi. "Now that
> we have succeeded in doing a series of experiments with EHF on the
> molecular level," the scientists explained, "we want to move on to
> explore a more fundamental level of matter --- the nucleus." Professors
> Lu Zuyin, Zhang Tianbao, Wang Donghai, and Zhu Runsheng of the Chinese
> Academy of Science High Energy Physics Institute tested the effects of
> Yan Xin's energy on the decay rate of the radioactive element
> Americium-241.
>
> All radioactive elements, like uranium and plutonium, have their own
> characteristic decay rates, determined by interactions in the atomic
> nucleus. The idea of observing whether or not Yan Xin's EHF powers could
> influence this hard-to-change property --- the decay rate of radioactive
> atoms --- was appealing.
>
> At the outset, they had two samples of Americium, one to serve as a
> target of the chi gong energy, the other as a control sample for
> comparison. Each time, Yan Xin sent energy to the target for 20 minutes.
> These experiments took place six times over a period of six months,
> starting in September 1987. Every time, the experimenters registered an
> affect. But on one occasion, the decay rate changed significantly while
> Yan Xin was sending energy from 1,200 miles away. They had to conclude
> that the effects were stronger at farther distances.
>
> Using the opportunity of Yan Xin's 1990 visit to the U.S., the scientists
> asked him to send his energy to the Americium-241 from 6,000 miles away.
> After two initial failures, Yan Xin tried again on June 7, 1991. The
> Am-241 decay rate underwent a 10 percent change!
>
> Another experiment concerned the "chi fields" created when Yan Xin or
> chi gong masters give lectures while emitting chi. At such appearances,
> Yan Xin consciously sends out his chi, in an effort to effect positive
> change in audience members. When participants feel the influence of the
> chi field, some reportedly are cured of diseases, while others shout,
> cry, or sway. Some people confined to wheelchairs even get up and walk
> again. Are these effects psychological, or do they come from the chi?
>
> Wang Yaolan and Lu Zuyin of the Chinese Academy of Science High Energy
> Physics invited Yan Xin to give a lecture with emitted chi at the
> Political Institute in Beijing. Wang Yaolan brought to the lecture a
> lithium fluoride heat-releasing light detector of a type usually used
> for measurement of radiation dosage. By the end of the three-hour,
> 10-minute lecture with emitted chi, the instrument registered a strong
> response to the chi field. In October 1987, the researchers took
> measurements at four different Yan Xin lectures at different places, and
> also did similar tests on two other chi gong masters. All gave the same
> result, showing that chi gong energy fields are real.
>
> THE HUMAN CONDUCTOR
>
> Yan Xin's amazing powers hardly end there. On May 15, 1991, at the
> Masonic Auditorium in San Francisco, he demonstrated his ability to act
> as a "human electrical conductor" before an audience of 1,700. San
> Francisco Chronicle reporter Don Lattin observed Yan Xin's feats and
> described them as "his alleged ability to channel electric current
> through his body, and his capacity to change wine from light to strong."
>
> During a 1986 lecture before 1,200 people at the Central Academy of the
> Chinese Communist Party, Yan Xin held an electric wire carrying 200 to
> 240 volts in his left hand, and a ground wire in his right hand. Then he
> completed the electric circuit with his body for a few minutes. Someone
> stood by with an electric test pencil to verify that his body was
> electrified. Not only was that the case, but Yan Xin was also able to
> voluntarily raise and lower the voltage.
>
> How is Yan Xing able to touch an electric current with both hands but
> not suffer an electric shock? Some believe that he used his mind power
> to enter the chi gong state and create electrical resistance. According
> to experimenters, when Yan Xin is not using his energy, the resistance
> between his two hands is hundreds of ohms higher than that of an ordinary
> person --- the effect of daily chi gong practice. When he releases his
> energy, his resistance is thousands of ohms higher.
>
> SHAKING THE WORLD
>
> Yan Xin has given more than a hundred healing lectures with emitted chi
> in mainland China, Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore, and Thailand, and since
> 1990, he has toured extensively in the United States. He has turned to
> mass healing methods because of the sheer quantity of people seeking
> healings from him. It is said that the effects of the mass healings are
> just as good as one-on-one healings, and rely mostly on the mind power,
> or emitted chi, that he sends to the audience.
>
> In June 1990, we attended Yan Xin's lectures at Staford University, one
> of the top science schools in the world. The auditorium was packed, and
> we witnessed Yan Xin's abilities for ourselves. Most memorably, a
> middle-aged woman who had been confined to a wheelchair for years got up
> and walked.
>
> According to Guo Tongxu, author of 'Yan Xin in North America: Shaking
> the World,' Yan Xin gave three sessions of energy adjustment and healing
> for a group of American AIDS patients in the fall of 1990. Their immune
> systems were greatly strengthened, and the patients requested a
> continuation of the program, Tongxu reported. Yan Xin later disclosed
> that he had been involved in more than 10 research projects in the U.S.
> for preventive treatment of AIDS patients, teaming the patients together
> and combining Chinese medicine, chi gong, and lectures with emitted chi.
>
> Yan Xin has also done two experiments on fasting, using chi gong energy
> training to sustain his life without eating or drinking for 133 days.
> He has also reportedly experimented with reviving dead animals.
>
> "The Americans don't dare publish these reports," Yan Xin has said.
> "They are too afraid of being attacked from religious and philosophical
> sides." He also quipped, "If you promote fasting in America, you will
> make enemies in the food industry. They make their living selling
> hamburgers."
>
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 14:09:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin.umich.edu>
To: Jeanne Garner <jeannegATnospamicon.net>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Re. Summary
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.980108140650.5762E-100000ATnospambergh.ummu.umich.edu>
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> >or have trouble agreeing on. Nobody teaches much.
> You seem to imply that someone's supposed to do it all FOR you. The best
I did not mean to imply that. I just mean more effort on the part
of the list to help each other would be beneficial.
> What have you been doing to try to learn?
I talk to professors and graduate students. Talking is more
efficient than email for teaching. I have not found a spiritual guru to
my liking yet, but I have not searched strongly enough, so I merely accept
life as the guru.
Dan
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