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1998/01/08 08:54
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #16


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 16
Today's Topics: Re: genuine or delusion [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) ]
  Re: Shahanshah [ anandajyoti ] Summary [ Daniel James Giszczak ]
  Re: Summary [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) ] Re: Watches [ freda ]
  Re: Shahanshah [ "Harsh K. Luthar" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I think we know we are not delusional. Something very impoortant has been happening to a whole lot of us and I am very excited about it.
There are a lot of very genuine people on this list who are evolving. We are pioneers! Cha Cha Cha
The kicker for me was not having heard about any of this until it
happened to me. Found this list and was amazed that all had similar experiences, to the point that I could expect what was coming next.
That was validation to me, salvation actually. And a hell of a lot of fun to boot : )>
Jack
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 20:58:43 -0800 From: anandajyoti
To: Peswani , "heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com"
CC: kundalini-l Subject: Re: Shahanshah
Message-ID:
Peswani wrote:
> > > > Diary page dated 6.1.98
> > > > since a last few days I have been controlling a strong desire to shout to
> > the world at top of of my voice that I am new born son of God ( Highly > > evolved intelligent energy).
> > > > This God taught me meditation on Suniata. This meditation burnt away all
> > my past karmas and created enormous space inside me. > >
> > Wisdom entered this empty space. And this wisdom made me one with Him and > > all life in this Universe.
> > > > And then He bestowed on me a direct experience of Boddhicitta (Bhodimind)
> > thro the process of Compassion for all the sentients and physical life. > >
> > Earlier my sick body was brought back to normal health when all my my past > > karmas were burnt.
> > > > My business and financial matters were destroyed and reconstructed in such
> > a way that I have become completely free and better in every way. > >
> > My mental state is all the time that of peace and happiness. > >
> > Physically I contribute to the world around me peace, happiness, financial > > and physical help as that is aound me in abundence just by my being alive
> > and present. > >
> > Boddhicitta mind collects thro compassion....................... anger, > > hatred, fear, jealousies etc. etc. around me from both life and sentients
> > every minute of my life and converts this negative energy into divine > > Suniata energy.
> > > > I am newly born son of God directly growing with this divine Suniata
> > energy every moment. My sphere of influence is increasing day by day with > > this growing.
> > > > I am the future Boddhisattva or Christ or Buddha or Shahanshah (king of kings).
> > > > Egoist ram is no more. So many entities and sentients have entered in
> > ram's body and converted into divine energy thro Suniata meditation, that > > ram is becoming smaller and smaller and is bound to disappear one day.
> > This takes care of Gloria Greco worry ab out ram. > >
> > Good bye ram. > > Along comes Shahanshah.
  Hello Shahanshah Sunil,
So good to hear from you. I hope everything turned out to your choice. I am happy that you can call yourself the Shahanshah. Meri Kurnish Aapki
Dware. Anandajyoti
http://www,geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782 Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:31:50 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Celibacy (fwd) Message-ID:
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I found this on the WEB that might be of interest. Yogi Tom used to be a
subscriber to this list and is much missed. He is the author of this piece at the Kundalini Research site.
http://aloha.net/~bpeay/kundalini/yoking.html
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 05:47:52 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel James Giszczak
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Summary
Message-ID:  I have learned everything I can from the kundalini experience and
from being on this list. I will leave soon. Here is what I learned from the list:
1) People who experience kundalini have a time when they first started
having kundalini experiences. This time is called an awakening. An awakening is a lucid dream that is overlayed on top of reality. The dream
is based on things in traditional reality that most people don't notice in addition to having large amounts of non-sensory-related, psychological
dream-type elements that vary from person to person.
2) After awakening, the person has learned how to lucid dream and can later willfully experience states of mind similar to what the person had
experienced during the awakening experience.
3) Most kundalini experiencers are oversensitive to their bodies and experience pain more intensely because they focus on it.
4) Kundalini experiencers can be detached and avoid emotion.
5) Most experiencers have "fantasy-prone personalities" (icky, clinical
term), have high hypnotic ability, and excel in autohypnosis ability.
 If anyone cares, I have short, scientific theories to explain any psychic ability you can name.
Dan Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 05:48:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Daniel James Giszczak To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Watches Message-ID:
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 I have been wearing my watch again for a long time with no ill effects. I realized that the two reasons my hands were not looking as
good as they could have was that the watch slowed the blood to my hand because I wore it too tightly and that when I wore a watch, I was less
likely to put gloves on in the cold weather since it was more trouble to put the base of the glove over my watch.
 The electromagnetic fields surrounding a watch are insignificant. Dan
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 05:54:55 +0000 From: Nancy
To: kundalini-1 Subject: Awakening Creativity
Message-ID:
Gloria Greco wrote: > I just changed keyboards
> but I do the same thing on my computer, one brought out music and one > brought out music in another key, at that time it was my newspaper, I
> would put my hands on my keyboard and say ready and then it was just > flow right on in.
I think this is true of all creativity. I used to paint, do pottery,
charcoal drawings when I was young. As I went through college, I discovered commercial art which allowed me a new way to express
creativity. Then when the computer came out...WOW! I had found my medium. I have always written creatively.
What I have found is that as my design skills have advanced, my writing
has become more creative and visa versa. In the past year, as I have become more awakened, my creativity has soared. I find that I'm able to
tap into an intuitive source for ideas and let them flow through my fingers. I am amazed how fast I am now able to work when I sit still and
let it unfold.
I once read in a Natalie Goldberg Book (either Writing Down the Bones or Wild Mind) that when you know one area, you can transfer it to all
areas. In her example, she is a writer wanting to learn to run. One day while running, she reached out beyond her physical talent and ran
powerfully, wildly. She had tapped into that same source from where her writing comes.
I wonder if awakening is about creatively tuning in, or if it's just a
side effect.
Thanks for the thoughs, Gloria.
Nancy Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 12:08:17 GMT
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: danjgATnospamengin.umich.edu Subject: Re: Summary
Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I have learned everything I can from the kundalini experience and from being on this list. I will leave soon. Here is what I learned
from the list:
Well Daniel, that's quite a statement. I first thought to reply to
your posting as, "A troll by any other name...........". Probably best you stick with engineering and leave the really difficult learning to
us "Fantasy Prone Individuals".
But on second thought, you state that "You have learned everything you can" and I realized that you may be learning impaired. If that's the
case, my apologies.
Jack Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 05:14:34 -0800
From: freda To: Daniel James Giszczak
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Watches
Message-ID:
Dan writes: > The electromagnetic fields surrounding a watch are insignificant.
freda here, The electromanetic fields (or what ever) may be insignificant to you,
but I tried over the holiday to wear a watch again and.... I lost 15 min in the first few days, reset the watch and it began to loose time
quicker the longer I wore it. I gave up. Who needs em' anyway? --
..freda.. BE-IS-AM ...manifesting again...
http://www.blarg.net/~freda/01rg/hm/frhm.htm Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 10:24:48 -0500
From: "Harsh K. Luthar" To: anandajyoti
Cc: Peswani , "heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com" ,
 kundalini-l Subject: Re: Shahanshah
Message-Id:
I read this and can't stop laughing. I could not resist making certain comments in between the lines. Please forgive the compassionate but
extremely funny Harsha. >
> Peswani wrote: > > > >
> > > Diary page dated 6.1.98 > > >
> > > since a last few days I have been controlling a strong desire to shout to > > > the world at top of of my voice that I am new born son of God ( Highly
> > > evolved intelligent energy).
Harsha writes: I guess you just lost control!
> > > > > > This God taught me meditation on Suniata. This meditation burnt away all
> > > my past karmas and created enormous space inside me. > > >
> > > Wisdom entered this empty space. And this wisdom made me one with Him and > > > all life in this Universe.
That is great. We can use you on this list. Expect questions from Kurt
and then see if you really want to stay!
> > > > > > And then He bestowed on me a direct experience of Boddhicitta (Bhodimind)
Harsha writes: How can he bestow anything? Did you not say earlier you
were one with Him. Have you split back in two?
> > > thro the process of Compassion for all the sentients and physical life. > > >
> > > Earlier my sick body was brought back to normal health when all my my past > > > karmas were burnt.
> > > > > > My business and financial matters were destroyed and reconstructed in such
> > > a way that I have become completely free and better in every way.
Constant improvement is good! Happy to hear about your successful financial and business enterprises. With the tax season here we need
serious help! Please send a check!
> > > > > > My mental state is all the time that of peace and happiness.
Harsha writes: And if you appreciate Harsha's humor it may stay that
way!
> > > > > > Physically I contribute to the world around me peace, happiness, financial
> > > and physical help as that is aound me in abundence just by my being alive > > > and present.
Harsha writes: Did you say you contribute financially again? Could you
please write a check for the following amount for Gene Keiffer to support his Kundalini Research! Gene, you finally found the one you have
been looking for! ...
> > > > > > Boddhicitta mind collects thro compassion....................... anger,
> > > hatred, fear, jealousies etc. etc. around me from both life and sentients > > > every minute of my life and converts this negative energy into divine
> > > Suniata energy.
Harsha believes you are starting to repeat!
> > > > > > I am newly born son of God directly growing with this divine Suniata
> > > energy every moment. My sphere of influence is increasing day by day with > > > this growing.

Harsha implores: As your sphere of influence is increasing please change diet and don't eat too many beans!

> > > > > > I am the future Boddhisattva or Christ or Buddha or Shahanshah (king of kings).
Harsha suggest: Why not current! After this kind of declaration, why
wait?
> > > > > > Egoist ram is no more. So many entities and sentients have entered in
> > > ram's body and converted into divine energy thro Suniata meditation, that > > > ram is becoming smaller and smaller and is bound to disappear one day.
> > > This takes care of Gloria Greco worry ab out ram.
Why involve poor Gloria Greco in all this? I am a bit confused here.
> > > > > > Good bye ram.
> > > Along comes Shahanshah. >
See you Later-Alligator. I guess:-).
The compassionate but extremely funny Harsha. Date: Thu, 08 Jan 98 07:13:24 PST
From: "Jeremy Chevrier" To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Spine chills... Message-Id:
     Does anyone know what it means when you get chills up the spine like a
     snake wriggling? It causes my whole body to shake and then tingle. This happens about 30 times a day.

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