1998/01/05 20:36
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #8
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 8
Today's Topics:
Re: MUST [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: HRTZEN: Futile? [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: Other Paths? [ "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.e ]
re: energy lights [ Terry Romine <tromineATnospamapple.com> ]
Re: Exceptions [ "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.e ]
Hell no! [ Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> ]
Problems with auras over - but need [ Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.co ]
Re: Benefits of Kundalini [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: Welcome! [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: MUST [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
7th opening, Tibetans & tantra [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: Benefits of Kundalini [ SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> ]
Help - Moral Dilemma? Off subject-lo [ jacinthaATnospamjuno.com (Danielle R Dumon ]
Re: More Kundalini Rambling [ Delirium <deliriumATnospamfull-moon.com> ]
Re: MUST [ SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Problems with auras over - but n [ SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> ]
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 10:33:14 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
Subject: Re: MUST
Message-ID: <34B0A8D9.A77ATnospamintercomm.com>
> I'm sorry about the experiences some of you have gone through. But I do
> think it's important - WHEN YOU CAN - to speak up about kundalini.
>
> Years ago, I wanted to speak up about my experience with psychiatrists, but
> my husband, a minister, said, "Oh my God, I'll be fired if anyone thinks
> we've seen a psychiatrist!" So we kept our secret, but when I was single,
> I did talk about it and encouraged people to seek help for smaller problems
> before they grew into bigger ones. Now the world has changed and therapy's
> an OK thing to talk about.
>
> So now I mention the kundalini process as if it's a perfectly normal thing
> to be involved in. Easy for me to say, I know - I'm 61, my kids don't
> think I'm whacked, and there's nobody else who could push me around. And
> nowadays I'm mostly around people involved in healing and meditation, etc.
> But I think it helps to change the climate of opinion - and when my kids
> have a kundalini experience, they'll know who they can talk to.
>
> Today I was at a workshop on geomagnetic stuff, and we were asked to
> introduce ourselves and tell something about our fields, past experiences,
> etc. So when I gave my little spiel, I tacked on, "And now in the last
> year or two I'm into the kundalini process." Would you believe nobody
> blinked! Nobody looked shocked or even surprised.
>
> Ann
Yes, things have changed but you have to read it from inside since not
all places are going to be suited to it. When I was at my chiropractor
last when he was asking me questions I told him about kundalini, he
didn't say anything, the next time I went, he didn't say anything, the
third time he started asking me about it. From then on he was talking to
me about it as soon as he laid eyes on me. I'm taking him a book, he is
young, interested and open. So, you make this decision by just being
open, if you are going to speak about it, you best be very detached from
the results. GG
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 10:50:24 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com>
CC: NancyATnospamwtp.net, Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Futile?
Message-ID: <34B0ACDE.6378ATnospamintercomm.com>
Gene Kieffer wrote:
>
> NANCY WROTE:
>
> . . . . >So, Gene, it's not that I have my mind made up about scientific
> proof. >just think proving something spiritual is futile.
>
> +++++++++++++++++++
>
> Dear Nancy,
>
> Futile to you, perhaps, but not futile to others. What we K-people
> should try to do, little by little, is expand our view of the world.
> We tend to be egocentric, and that's perfectly understandable. But
> after a few years of talking about "our experiences," as though we were
> in some way special or unique, begins to become weary. At that point,
> it would be good to read something by somebody who was Enlightened.
>
>
Gloria here:
Gene, I don't know that you recognize how your statements can be really
put downs, why must we communicate in this tone. You are representing a
person of great knowing and enlightenment, and yet you push buttons as
though it was a game of sorts. If this is serious business, something
you feel whole heartedly about then I was suggest you come from your
higher self instead of this kind of thought that causes others to react.
Just a thought that comes to me very strong.
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 14:50:59 -0500
From: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com,
Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com>
Subject: Re: Other Paths?
Message-Id: <34B139A3.5442ATnospamacad.bryant.edu>
Mike, it is an issue (actually a non-issue from a practical point of
view) of different orientations and approaches. It is my experience that
in the end all definitions, concepts, and approaches are left behind and
make little difference. My own path (started 34 years ago)involved
direct arousal of the Kundalini Shakti through Bhastrika Pranayama,
Bandhas, and Mudras along with prolonged Meditations on the energy
centers. But the arousal of the Shakti is one thing. Her Joining and
Merging with the Divine Source which results in Enlightenment is
another. Only when all seeking is given up and with complete purity of
mind one surrenders (the mind) to the Divine (unconditionally) does the
Kundalini Shakti go straight and Merges in the Self and reveals God
Consciousness in the Center of the Self. Some Great Souls who have
extra-ordinary purity of mind, spontaneously drive the "Thought Force"
inherent in the conscious mind,(through contemplation or prayer) deeper
and deeper and realize directly the Divinity in their Heart. On this
path, the massive force of the Unconscious Mind is not directly
activated at the beginning of the spiritual journey. In such Sages the
Classical Kundalini manifestations may happen after they have realized
the essential Truth of Existence in their own Being. There is a lot more
I can say on this but it may be too much. Mike, you are a good and a
wise person, pure in heart. Be always what you are-A Peace Maker.
Harsha
Mike Stickles wrote:
>
> Sounds like a problem of definitions here.
>
> If some believe that Enlightenment *must* be preceded by a Kundalini
> awakening, and others say *no* to that, could it be that we're not
> meaning quite the same thing by Enlightenment, or by Kundalini
> awakening?
>
> And if so, is there a chance that both views are right according to
> their own definitions?
>
> Just something to think about. This kind of thing happens to my wife and
> me all the time - thinking that we're disagreeing when we're really in
> total agreement, all because we use the same words in slightly different
> ways.
>
> - Mike
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 98 09:52:39 -0800
From: Terry Romine <tromineATnospamapple.com>
To: "Solar Lion" <gtaATnospamcwnet.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
cc: <SHAMAN-LATnospamLISTSERV.AOL.COM>, <voyagersATnospammonroe-inst.com>,
<merkabaATnospamamargiland.com>
Subject: re: energy lights
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please
anyone trying to send email to me either individually or as part of the
merkaba list (I have discontinued the kundalini list) change my address
from tromineATnospamapple.com to tromineATnospamsirius.com.
I am setting up a filter to bounce any and all private emails going to my
apple account.
This is the last warning.
Thank you
In Light and Love
EaTrom
Order of Melchizedek
* My personal muses: http://www.sirius.com/~tromine *
* Talismen Ent.: http://www.freeyellow.com/members/talismen *
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 16:55:35 -0500
From: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: fredaATnospamblarg.net
Cc: Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com,
heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
Subject: Re: Exceptions
Message-Id: <34B156D7.480CATnospamacad.bryant.edu>
freda wrote:
>
> Gene,
snip.
...
> how do
> you intend to
> prove the "enlightenment" of the subjects which do come forward to be
> studied?
> Are you going to follow them beyond the grave to substanciate their
> claim?
> --
> ..freda..
I am making up my Syllabi for the semester. But this is too funny. I
have to bow to Freda for her straight forward responses to Gene. My
teacher's teachers's teacher was over 100 years old in Ahamdabad, India
when he called his disciples to his side. He sat up, closed his eyes,
and went into Samadhi and left his body. Freda is quite right. How would
Gene and his team of scientists "follow him" and verify where his Soul
"Went". If Gene or any other scientists want to know the State of
Consciousness of an Enlightened person, they should recognize it in
themselves first. Thinking that others are special or enlightened or
awakened and you are not is a delusion. This is the compassionate
Harsha's brand of "tough love!"
Harsha
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:58:19 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Hell no!
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Again we have Gene off on another tack...
He says:
>>Now we have reached the crux of the matter. We K-people, generally
speaking, want our "K-experiences" to be classified as a religion.
Fine. But I think honesty and integrity demands that we select a
name for our religion, one that is not generic. A generic name, such
as Kundalini, cannot be patented, trademarked or copyrighted. >>>
Well I am glad it cannot...
Heavens! This religion thingsis the very thing we are all enlightened
enough to know we DO NOT WANT...
What you write is so ludicrous that I think you must be being
ironic or joking.. but then you write long letters which indicate
you are not the least bit humorous.
Gene... Please...spare us.. ... You
design your religion how YOU choose. There is plenty of historical
precedence forwhat
you want to do.. go for it. Recreate history and religion all over again.
But just do not expect me to join this insanity.. From what I see of
your writing... I know you will make a great little religion
out of Kundalini.. but it will NOT be the Kundalini of Goddess Shakti...
it will NOT be the Kundalini that I know. It will be some ghastly figment
of your mentation nicely categorized and labeled so that it can be put
into TV documentaries and photographed by National Geographic and the
National Science Foundation can give you grants to write lots of Ph.D.
theses of how to get it, how to control it and exactly how to make it
palatable and tamed for the popular mind.
NO THANKS...
What I am wondering is what happened to your Kundalini that it makes you
come up with this type of assumption. It seems to be way different
Kundalini that you have than what I have... so I think perhaps
your religion is something entirely different after all. By all means,
give it another word...this might help with the confusion here.
*****
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 18:49:26 -0500
From: Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.com>
To: Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin.umich.edu>
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Problems with auras over - but need more help/advice
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Dan, thanks for the advice; sorry I took so long to reply.
My seeing of auras started without intent (at about 7 or 8 years of age)
- I had no idea what I was seeing until about age 14, when I "chanced"
upon a book about auras at the local library (before that, I'd assumed
it was an eye problem my optometrist couldn't identify). When looking at
auras deliberately, they've tended to be monochrome, thin, and only
marginally visible unless either the subject is "aroused" emotionally in
some way, or I've had a recent "flare-up" of seeing them spontaneously.
The focusing problems I mentioned were not of focusing on the auras, but
on anything else - my computer screen, software manuals, etc. I was
programming at my computer when this happened, and my main worry at the
time was that I wouldn't be able to see clearly enough to drive home
safely.
However, I don't doubt that insufficient sleep probably contributed -
increasing sleep hours as you suggested, plus relaxing to lower stress
(someone else suggested that immediately - it helped me get home OK) has
helped immensely in settling things down so I could see the "real world"
more clearly again.
In the past, when "flare-ups" have happened, aura visibility has dropped
off dramatically after 2 or 3 days. This time it's been a week, and
auras are as visible (and colorful) as at first, though the intensity of
the fluctuations has diminished greatly. Indeed, when I look at my own
aura at close range, physical things beyond it are slightly distorted to
my eyes - formerly a rare occurence, and only during the initial part of
the "flare-up."
Since it seems that strong aura visibility is here to stay this time, I
would assume there is a purpose for it, and so I should start working at
making some sense out of what I'm seeing (I confess, I'd never much
bothered about *reading* auras before - just *seeing* them was cool
enough for me). Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to go about
that? Are there any good books or on-line courses on learning to read
auras? Or any classes or workshops in the Denver, CO area?
Wanting to learn...
- Mike
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 17:49:54 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Benefits of Kundalini
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dor <onarresATnospaminreach.com> wrote:
>....Well, since Shaki decided to give me a wake up call, I have become
>clairsentient, which has its drawbacks. ...
Would someone please explain what clairsentience is? I've heard it defined
in different ways, so I'm not clear on what the word means.
Ann
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 19:25:42 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com>
Subject: Re: Welcome!
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Alan <AfperryATnospamaol.com> wrote:
>Dear Ann,
>Thanks for the welcome....
Hey Alan, go back and look at my message to you and you'll see it was
private! Not meant to be repeated or answered on the list. That's a big
no-no here, as I found out by making the same mistake. Sending you
Angelique's message to me on the subject - you must have just missed it.
Might as well post my reply to you:
Hi Alan
>I'm no expert, just a K. practitioner with an 11 year track record who teaches
>from the benefit of that experience, helping others to bring about self-
>transformation through meditation and devotional yoga. A bit like you,
>perhaps, although you've been at it a lot, lot longer?
No, the K.process is pretty new to me. When I have taught meditation, I
was always careful NOT to get anyone "in trouble," to produce overt K.
symptoms - didn't even talk about centers at first because I didn't want my
students concentrating on them. I always thought K. was at work, but I
thought we could talk in other terms and move the energy without
troublesome outer symptoms.
But I never realized how real and physical the K. process is. I'm wondering
now if it's necessary in order to develop the body.
Sending you my very recent Newbie Report, instead of repeating a lot of stuff.
>To me, K. underscores everything in spiritual life: it's just that some people
>know that and others do not...........................YET!
Well, I'm learning!
Love,
Ann
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 18:33:28 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: "HeartZen" <heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com>
Subject: Re: MUST
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Wilathi Weaver <AthenaATnospamreninet.com> wrote:
>Dear all: I dont understand why we have to prove anything. Are we not
>trying to realize ourselves? If we need proof, than we have no faith. We
>might as well say we don't belive in ourselves as to require proof for
>our beliefs. The very foundation of all religions is that they are a
>faith. Indeed it is a requirement. This is why a perfect master will
>never use his god realized powers to convert anyone. True god
>realization has to come from within. It is never coerced. If you want
>to realize god, you must surrender and love. If you cannot surrender and
>love you are not ready for god.
We're not all the same, Athena. I'm not a person of faith. I've always
needed to see for myself. But God doesn't despise that - when I asked
sincerely and out of deep need, he/she answered.
The disciple Thomas said he couldn't believe without seeing, and Jesus
appeared, holding out his hands to touch. Once having seen, Thomas knew,
and he went to India and spent the rest of his life there, telling what he
knew.
Ann
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 18:22:39 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: 7th opening, Tibetans & tantra
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ori <oriATnospameskimo.com> writes:
>Been directed toward 2 different eye focuses--
>first one was looking up through the crown of the head.
>I quite easily focus at the 3rd eye... but found myself receiving
>a suggestion to raise the focus upward. Wow. I'm still trying to
>get to the point where I can sustain it.
I find this happens in two different ways. At times my eyes are meant to
look upward. But at other times what's important is to focus on the crown
chakra (or a higher one) - or move the conscious focus there-, but movement
of the eyes is not necessary and they can be relaxed.
>
>Then curiously enough I was directed to look straight ahead focusing
>out of each eye individually. This is very different than focusing
>the eyes on a single point and allow them to go blurry. I'm not sure
>the purpose of this yet, but it was suggested as a tool for viewing
>that in between place.
Sannella in "Kundalini Experience" talks about this and calls it "single
seeing." An artist whose case history is given reported that her "eyes
seemed to move separately and the pupils felt like holes which bored into
my head and met in the center."
Muktananda (in his autobiography, "Play of Consciousness") talks about it
extensively in a chapter entitled "The Piercing of the Optical Chakras."
"Next the pupils of both my eyes became centered together. I began to see
one thing with two eyes. In the scriptures this is called bindu-bheda....
When the process starts, some aspirants fear that they may lose their
eyesight. With me, my eyes rolled so violently around and around and up
and down that it seemed as if they would fall out. Some people saw it
happening and they too were frightened. But I put all my trust in the
Goddess....
"As the eyes revolve, the optical chakras are pierced, which pleases their
deity.... When the optical chakras are purified by piercing, their deity
bestows divine sight on the aspirant, and he becomes clairvoyant."
He also speaks of looking upward. "When my eyes stopped rolling, they
would stay turned upward. I would keep looking upward, and if I looked
down it would hurt...."
If the book isn't available and you want to see this chapter, I could scan
it for you.
>Even as I'm bouncing up against the edges of my current limits,
>and beginning to feel a little overwhelmed, I recognize that this too
>is part of the process, and the important thing is not to get caught up
>in the images and happenings and phenomenon which surround me, but to
>continue through practice to connect the channel and keep the energy
>flow pure.
That's my understanding, too - "Maintain the flow-through."
Ann
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:27:25 EST
From: SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com>
To: onarresATnospaminreach.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Benefits of Kundalini
Message-ID: <bc70b466.34b19697ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-01-04 21:55:43 EST, you write:
> There is sometimes a 'pop' that
> I can hear - in both the head and the solar plexus or heart area - but
> nothing uncomfortable. So, like many of my brothers and sisters on the
> path, I am progressing, step by step, day by day.
>
> BTW, it was a wonderful excerpt, and I believe you shared some of it with
> the K list some time ago... I don't easily forget something written so
> beautifully.
>
> Love and Light dor
ATnospam->->--
Dor,
Thank you for the appreciation. I have worked long and hard to get to the
point where I could tell the story in the manner it deserves.
As for the 'pop' sound, I too have experienced it when my energy is rising. As
it goes upward through my neck area, that is where I hear the sound. I yawn a
lot then too.
Sounds like you are going to be experiencing a lot of bliss soon. Wonderful!
Love and Light, Linda
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:46:18 -0500
From: jacinthaATnospamjuno.com (Danielle R Dumont)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Help - Moral Dilemma? Off subject-long
Message-ID: <19980105.214622.8414.1.jacinthaATnospamjuno.com>
To the point:
My husband and I own a small sign shop (window and vehicle lettering,
etc.) Our ex-partner used his key to enter the building and stole all
our computer equipment. He had refused to return the key. We had the
locks changed before but he convinced a locksmith to go to the shop and
make him a new key. We are moving the shop to a different location;
therefore, did not want the added expense of changing the locks again.
He stole the computer, monitor, keyboard, mouse, printer, scanner,
various forms of software, blank disks, all the artwork and files on the
computer, 2 hard disk drives and various other things.
The computer used to belong to him but the shop bought it from him, as
well as the scanner and printer. We were considering returning the
computer to him as a way to get him out of our lives. Not to be
judgmental - but he thinks the world owes him something and he should not
have to work for a thing.
So the police were called. The guy said he would return the stuff the
next day. He didn't. We get in touch with him and he says we have
another printer of his and he wants it. This is true.
The Deal: He returns the monitor, the software, files and a few other
things, keeps the computer, scanner, other printer, etc - then he gets
his freakin' $600.00 printer back that is at my house.
DILEMMA - is it wrong then to continue to press charges and go after him
for theft if we get back the important stuff? My husband thinks if I
keep this alive and make him pay for his crime it will bring me to his
level. Should I let the universe take care of it or
risk a karma payback? He didn't take anything we cant replace and have
replaced most of it (except for the files and artwork).
Thanks for listening I had to get this off my chest.
Jacintha
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 20:59:19 +0000
From: Delirium <deliriumATnospamfull-moon.com>
To: Kundalini-l <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: More Kundalini Rambling
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Another bit of the puzzle fell into place this afternoon...I worked up
the nerve to share my experiences-- albeit somewhat translated -- with
my therapist. She had only one question after my long (and rather
nervous) tale of becoming "blissed out" twice recently -- "So, these
experiences mean that you're feeling somewhat better now, (than before
you came to see me in September) I gather?"
I have to admit one of my old fears is that of being thought crazy...and
this recent experience just brought that to the forefront. I seem to be
giving the 'apparent sanity/insanity' scenario more weight than it
deserves, and this has brought up memories from my youth of being the
"different" child...and feeling like an outsider...it really isn't
necessarily so bad, after all.
Like the Monty Python "Life of Brian" scene where Brian, mistaken for
Jesus, tells the crowd "you're all individuals...make your own decisions
(or something like that)" and one fellow in the crowd pipes up and says
"I'm not!"
This "not an individual, no way, no how..." has apparently been one of
my popular disguises...going along with things, not making
waves...except then the Goddess energy hits me and the wake is
unmistakeable!
(at least that's how it seems to me at this present moment...fomenting
rebellion yet again, the wolf in sheep's clothing, etcetera)...
FWIW...love to all...Delirium (Kath)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:49:06 EST
From: SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com>
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: MUST
Message-ID: <13d37b70.34b19ba7ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-01-05 14:04:21 EST, you write:
>
> > I'm sorry about the experiences some of you have gone through. But I do
> > think it's important - WHEN YOU CAN - to speak up about kundalini.
ATnospam->->--
I think this was Gloria's quote of Ann's comment. I agree. The reason I was
compelled to write my book is to get the word out there. The public needs to
be educated to the fact that there are people breaking through (Kundalini
rising) all the time and just because we are different does not mean we are
crazy.
When I was told by a shrink to be careful who I told about my experiences lest
they lock me up, I got really angry and very dissappointed. I was careful
alright, but I still told people. I just learned to be discriminating. This is
a wonderful and precious gift we have been given. So wonderful that I want to
share it with is many prople as possible. Mostly I share with whoever I think
is ready and open, otherwise I am wasting my breath.
Love and Light, Linda
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 22:11:56 EST
From: SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com>
To: msticklesATnospamantalys.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Problems with auras over - but need more help/advice
Message-ID: <4f0f36a8.34b1a0fdATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-01-05 19:14:32 EST, you write:
> Since it seems that strong aura visibility is here to stay this time, I
> would assume there is a purpose for it, and so I should start working at
> making some sense out of what I'm seeing (I confess, I'd never much
> bothered about *reading* auras before - just *seeing* them was cool
> enough for me). Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to go about
> that? Are there any good books or on-line courses on learning to read
> auras? Or any classes or workshops in the Denver, CO area?
>
> Wanting to learn...
>
> - Mike
ATnospam->->--
Hi Mike,
I went to a lecture once to hear a psychic speak about auras and what they
meant to her. She had developed quite an understanding and explained them
quite well. I have seen many books on the subject in metaphysical book stores.
For those who have this particular gift, what they can see are the energies in
the body, both good and bad, which tell how we a feeling and where in our
bodies the energies are reflecting these feelings. What a wonderful thing to
be able to see as you do. I cannot see auras, but I feel emotions from others
in my own body. It is a mystery to me why one feel where another sees with
their physical eyes and another sees pictures in theri minds. We are all
different, so it follows that our abilities are as different as our more usual
talents such as music, art, math, or sports.
I hope you will be able to study and develop this ability to use to help you
better understand life and make you a more loving person.
Love and Light, Linda
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