1997/12/19 17:26
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #845
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 845
Today's Topics:
Re: [Fwd: Ruth ATnospam Anandajoyti] [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Daniel lea <daniel-leaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Re: Stay on topic and stop chatting! [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: On/off topic, religion and prose [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: Pacing [ Lorianna Burkes <lady_enchantmentATnospamy ]
Re: Lightening [ Susanne Macrae <smacraeATnospamcamtech.net ]
Photos etc. [ Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> ]
Re: Pacing [ "danelle t" <danelletATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Masons [ Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> ]
Ancient Wisdoms [ ori <oriATnospameskimo.com> ]
Re: Soho Multiversity [ fransATnospamdegas.telebyte.nl ]
manifesting [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: Soho Multiversity [ "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.e ]
Women & Genius, was Re: Sacred Geome [ M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> ]
Re: neatness [ Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com> ]
Re:Pacing [ Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com> ]
RE: neatness [ Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.co ]
Re: New generation [ Lorianna Burkes <lady_enchantmentATnospamy ]
Auras (was RE: New generation) [ Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.co ]
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 20:54:37 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
CC: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com,
gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Ruth ATnospam Anandajoyti]
Message-ID: <34997F7D.F78ATnospamintercomm.com>
Harsh K. Luthar wrote:
>
> Gloria Greco wrote:
Thanks again for sharing Harsha. I agree with you that it is different
for everyone, and appreciate your input. Gene was of the feeling that
you may not have read Gopi's books, but I can see that you have.
Do you agree with Gopi's point on the evolution of kundalini as being a
key factor for this time? This has been Gene's focus for so many years.
> >
>
> Harsha>
>
> Harsha gives up and writes: I have been familiar with Gopi Krishna's
> writings (through actually reading his books) for about two decades. I
> know he suffered greatly. I have a great deal of respect for him,
> particularly since I went through a horrific time between the ages of 18
> and 21 myself without much guidance or support. Although Gopi Krishna's
> account is fascinating, it is not useful for all spiritual aspirant.
Gloria:
I had the same responce at first because my own experience was so
different, and those I've worked with has been different again.
Harsha:
> Most spiritual aspirants, who are serious, and practice in a systematic
> way under guidance, with a genuinely selfless teacher will have a normal
> awakening of the Shakti. A normal awakening is not a cause for alarm.
> Gradual and steady progress, with self awareness, sets the foundation
> for success. Gopi Krishna's account, while authentic, assumes that
> others will experience Kundalini awakening in a similar fashion. This is
> simply wrong. His scathing criticism of Gurus, while understandable in
> view of his circumstances, misses the point that it is through the
> traditional transmission in the context of Guru/disciple relationship
> that the practical knowledge of Kundalini has been passed on.
Gloria:
Valid teachers are certainly necessary and an asset to the seeker for
sure, I don't believe Gopi would disagree with this, perhaps he focused
to much on those who were not selfless in their efforts.
>Harsha:
> Here in brief is the problem that you face in attempting to research
> Kundalini on a purely physical basis.
>
> Kundalini can and does manifest in a variety of ways in individuals. To
> some it may manifest as light, to others as sound. Still others may
> become aware of it as primary consciousness. Because of the literally
> hundereds of pathways it can take, the physical changes in individuals
> experiencing kundalini will not be the same. The Samadhis will differ as
> well due to Kundalini stimulating different parts of the nervous system
> and the brain. I have already stated that in many Samadhis, Optical
> nerves are stimulated first. In such Samadhis, one will visually see the
> Kundalini as a huge light. In other Samadhis, the primary experience
> will be that of Consciousness.
>
> I do not quite understand what else you want me to say. The topic of
> Kundalini is best understood through practice.
>
> Harsha
Gloria:
Nothing, I appreciate your input. Gloria
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
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Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 19:09:41 -1000 (HST)
From: Daniel lea <daniel-leaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199712190509.TAA17044ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
I have been experiencing heat disgarges from my body only from practicing pranyam and a few other excercises. I was wondering how to control this or who I could talk to about sensations, how to see auras or if there is anyone still at this resource center. thank you, Daniel
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 21:19:20 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: tg langston <tgxxxATnospamjuno.com>
CC: keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Stay on topic and stop chatting!
Message-ID: <34998546.68E3ATnospamintercomm.com>
tg langston wrote:
>
> << I thank Gloria, Anandajyoti etc. for commenting on my prana vs.
> kundalini question I'm disappointed that Harsh and other vocal members
> of this group would not take time to do so.>>
>
>Gloria:
Actually it has been a very healthy conversation, perhaps a little deep
for some and maybe because of it, it was hard to get into and talk
about, but still these things need to be brought to the surface and
allowed to move through the Holy Spirit.
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 21:31:23 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.com>
CC: jennymassageATnospamwriteme.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: On/off topic, religion and proselytizing, etc.
Message-ID: <34998819.4C48ATnospamintercomm.com>
Mike Stickles wrote:
>
>
> As to E-mail volume - I'm subscribed to 57 mailing lists (32 of them
> interactive), so I've had to learn to discriminate quickly. I scan the
> subject line and the first page of a post, and if it isn't in my area of
> interest I just hit "delete". Once a subject I don't care about is
> established, I just delete mesages with that subject without looking at
> the text. If it's interesting, but not for right now, I shunt it off to
> a folder for later perusal, but if it sits in the folder for a month and
> I don't look at it, it's history. You might consider a similar tactic
> (though it sounds like a month might be a tad too long for your
> situation).
Gloria:
wow, I thought I was busy, you must be online all the time. I have
mastered the art of scanning through very quickly also. Tonight I had
about 150 in my box. And, I do really move along with it. As far as the
communication goes, it is very difficult to control what is coming down
if you are truly spontaneous and working from spirit, that is the real
purpose of this list.
>
>
> - Mike
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 21:42:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Lorianna Burkes <lady_enchantmentATnospamyahoo.com>
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Pacing
Message-ID: <19971219054234.24159.rocketmailATnospamsend1a.yahoomail.com>
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Does anyone know if this restlessness is another sympton of K
awakening? I too have experienced this restlessness...and it has
gotten stronger in the past few months...i have always had a bit of
restlessness in my life..and mostly during periods of tremendous
growth for me...so i am curious to know if this present restlessness
is indeed K awakening more and more within me...any comments???
Lorianna
---amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us wrote:
>
> Debora A. Orf wrote:
>
> >I felt like I was suffocating and always restless. The mouse in the
cage
> >pacing back and forth.
>
> I remember the restlessness and having the compulsion to pace too.
>
> :)
> amckeon
>
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:14:32 +1030
From: Susanne Macrae <smacraeATnospamcamtech.net.au>
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Lightening
Message-ID: <349A09C0.24D4ATnospamcamtech.net.au>
Hi all,
My reactions to weather have always been extreme. Days where there are
clouds covering the sky make me feel awful. Worse if they are mainly
dark or black clouds. Blue skies just make me feel wonderful.
I found a great book "Your Health Your Moods and the Weather"
by WS Kals. He explains that when there are an excess of positive ions
in the atmosphere (such as on cloudy days) that the inhalation of these
high levels of positive ions increases serotonin production.
My partner loves the cloudy days that make me feel miserable. My theory
is that someone like me produces large amounts of serotonin normally
and feel discomfort when this is increased by positive ions. Neil
may be normally a low producer of serotonin and so thrives when the
production is "upped" by the weather.
Another interesting observation is the structural similarities between
serotonin and LSD. This may be a clue to the correlation between
experiencing mystical phenomena with LSD and without a physical
stimulant.
For the people that don't see any reason to pursue a scientific
validation of Kundalini (and I accept their point of view) I think one
day science will discover the physical truth of her existance. We know
so little scientifically about the human body that the explosion of the
mystic will probably drag science kicking and screaming into its new
reality.
Love sue
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 21:46:35 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Photos etc.
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.971218213539.27960A-100000ATnospamuhunix4>
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Hi Paul: ..
>>> This past weekend I ran across a photo of Swami Muktananda and
was compelled >to look into his eyes. I looked at the photo for about two
minutes and then >went into a meditative state.
Dear Paul: This kind of thing happens to many people with Muktananda and
his Guru Bhagvan Nityananda ofwhom it is very difficult to speak. I
remember looking at Muktananda's photo before I met him and feeling this
wonderful humanity as if he were alive, but his teeth looked
so gleaming, white and totally wrong to me.
Later I found out they were false teeth that his disciples insisted he
wear because he had lost his own rather buck teeth many years before! It
just convinced me that the energy of his being was really coming through
even the photo. My skeptical friends from England thought my
"guru-business" was all a joke until one day they saw Muktananda's photo
winking at them.. this was a common event by the way. One day I had to
sort out photos of Muktananda and Bhagwan and Gurumayi and after only an
hour I had to stop for I was too rapturous to speak or think.... and I
stayed that way for some time!
One hears stories of idol worship etc.. but I know that a photograph is a
powerful thing when the picture is of a great being like this.
Aloha.. and Seasons Greetings to everyone.. from Hawaii where it is sunny
and 85*F !
Ruth
******
Love allows freedom. Drop the idea that attachment and love are the same
thing. They are enemies. It is attachment that destroys love. (Osho)
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http://166.122.32.61/trimble/
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 23:47:01 PST
From: "danelle t" <danelletATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Pacing
Message-ID: <19971219074702.12135.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Lorianna-
I too am experiencing a great restlessness. As I have just begun my
awakening a few months ago I too wondered if this was a symptom. I have
asked a dear friend of mine who is fully awakened now and she assures me
it will pass. ;-) The best piece of advice I have recieved was too
just go with whatever emotion you feel and let it release....trying not
to question the basis of it. For it might be from another life lived
before this one. I was told that the cleansing process would bring up
many emotions i might not understand but that needed to be released. I
hope this helps ;-)
Blessed Be-
danelle
always look within.....thru the clouds of emotion the answers you search
for can be found.
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 21:57:56 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Masons
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I think Paul said: >>My father was a Mason. I sometimes wonder if it has
cursed me in some way.
>>
I think that is very sensitive of you. There have been some indications in
various texts I have read that the Masons and other secret male societies
have engaged in practices which deprive full human rights to others.
I think at one end of this is "black magic," and "slavery" to the other
end of controlling markets and economic coercion perhaps. I believe that
David Icke puts our George Washington in a very unsavory light on this.
I would postulate wishfully that these male dominated
groups are going to have to clear off our planet.. .and move over, for the
Goddess is back... and she doesn't like secrecy and domination! I am sure
there is a nice little 3D planet for them to play their gang games on..
but not Gaia...she's had it with little boy's imaginings.
Ruth
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 02:46:52 -0800
From: ori <oriATnospameskimo.com>
To: Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Ancient Wisdoms
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19971219024652.007f9480ATnospammail.eskimo.com>
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First, go out and buy the CD: Dorje Ling by David Parsons.
Then play it as an accompaniment to reading the following
while allowing its depth and musical landscapes with Tibetan
chanting to transport you to a now place. Brian Eno with
a Tibetan, wonderfully intese twist.
_____
I was in the meditation room, bringing some things into the house,
and one of the three crystal bells, given to me by a
multi-dimensional healer, *let it be known* that it was coming in
the house with me. I had no idea why.
Some radical process is moving through me and guiding me in the use
of my subtle body by attuning me to feeling the energies in things
or in spaces by using the ringing of the bell to communicate with me.
Through the ringing of the bell I am seeing/sensing/feeling the energy
of objects and particularly with the older stuff seeing
memories/karma/vibes/what-have-you's some of which I'm
ready to release from my life.
The bell is a tool I've been provided with for increasing the vibration
in my living area. It guides me with its ringing to where the energy flow
is slow or needs a shift. The bell speaks with the voice of shakti.
It is like I am purifying and simplifying my space in preparation
for some major coming attraction. My home, my body, my life
The last 3 nights I've totally rearranged my living area,
gotten rid of old *stuff* a thorough cleansing is commencing...
even to the point of not wanting (or needing) to hold onto so
many books and choosing to get rid of many of them.
<argh... not the books!?!>
_______________________
Up most of night
Being moved through
by Ancient Wisdoms
Ritual intuitions of feng shui
Moving through me and
Guiding me to create a balance and a flow
on all the spheres
r e l e a s i n g
the old carried for lifetimes
Clearing with a crystal bell
It guides me by its ringing
ringing its clear tone
soul-tone mine
Guiding me to move something
or to place something-- just so
Ringing and clearing objects
and clearing the placement of the objects
It was insistent on that
Ringing alerts to stagnant chi
Calling for a cure
Protections and guardians placed through out
I did not know there were so many gathered
and ready for what is to come
Placement of crystals to assist the flow of chi
Yes.
How do I know that I know?
Making sacred space of all the home
Reclaiming what is mine
Stepping into my power
Ritualized fresh unknown knowing
Knowing drawn from ancients
Knowing/Nowing of the ancients flowering through me
Timely for the Now Tao
3 night initiation process it seems
Tonight being the 3rd
Solstice in 5
ori
c1997
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:24:47 +0000
From: fransATnospamdegas.telebyte.nl
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Soho Multiversity
Message-Id: <199712191321.OAA17499ATnospamdegas.telebyte.nl>
> Dear List,
> Can anyone enlighten me on Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh? Thanks
> Lynn
>
Hello Lynn, i have been a sanyasin of Bhagwan since 1980. I wonder,
btw, are there more on this list? I guess i still love the guy... he
put my feet back on the ground again. I got the 'mini kundalini blues'
after he was gone, it felt in the beginning as receiving shaktipat
from him. Still wished he was around. Contact me if you want to know
more, or specific. Frans.
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:30:39 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: manifesting
Message-ID: <1329602265-2808726ATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us>
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There is a farm I pass on my way to and from work that is always quite
elaborately decorated for Christmas with lights and little vignettes and
scenes. They have a driveway that curves back behind their house and
passersby are invited to drive through and look at everything. At one point
there is a little table set up with candlelights and cups and a sign that
says "Have a Christmas Toast on Us." There is also a little lighted church.
Anyhow, when you leave, a sign says "Happy Holidays from the ------
family." It has been two and a half years since I have been meaning to
drive through there and I finally did it Wednesday night. I am determined
to tell the next person I talk to with that family name what a cool thing
they have done. So Thursday someone shows up at my office door and says
"Hi, I'm Mrs. ------."
Don't you just love when that happens?
Happy Holidays!
amckeon
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 10:20:11 -0500
From: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: fransATnospamdegas.telebyte.nl
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Soho Multiversity
Message-Id: <349A90AB.75EBATnospamacad.bryant.edu>
fransATnospamdegas.telebyte.nl wrote:
> Hello Lynn, i have been a sanyasin of Bhagwan since 1980. I wonder,
> btw, are there more on this list? I guess i still love the guy... he
> put my feet back on the ground again. I got the 'mini kundalini blues'
> after he was gone, it felt in the beginning as receiving shaktipat
> from him. Still wished he was around. Frans.
Dear Frans,
I knew you would respond to Lynn's question. My heart always goes out
to the true seekers. You know it Fran but I will still say it. What is
Real is always Real and never leaves. There is no "Other" place to go.
With great love in my heart, may you be blessed with peace and joy and
give that to others.
Harsha
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 12:45:32 -0800 (PST)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: DonBBenson <DonBBensonATnospamaol.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Women & Genius, was Re: Sacred Geometry
Message-Id: <199712192045.MAA04750ATnospammail.thegrid.net>
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At 10:42 PM 12/17/97 EST, DonBBenson wrote:
>Personally, I am not much interested in this subject currently. But, having
>been a student of R. Buckminster Fuller in the 1960's and 1970's, I would
>recommend his books SYNERGETICS: Explorations in the Geometry of Thinking
>(Macmillan, 1975) and SYNERGETICS 2: Further Explorations in the Geometry of
>Thinking (Macmillan, 1979). This work grew out of Bucky Fuller's kundalini
>awakening experience in 1927. For about two years (1927-29), Bucky Fuller
>withdrew from normal business and family activities and lived as a monk in one
>room of his apartment in Chicago. His wife, Anne, would slide his meals under
>the door. He emerged as one of the great geniuses of the modern world.
How many women would emerge as great geniuses if they had wives to feed them
like that? Suppose Gopi Krishna's wife had been the one with time to
meditate? Would he have waited on her?
I think Gloria Steinem wondered about this kind of thing in that first issue
of MS.
M
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 14:55:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: neatness
Message-Id: <199712192255.OAA18006ATnospampnn.com>
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At 07:01 PM 12/18/97 -0600, you wrote:
>Welcome to my club of "casual" housekeepers! The more the merrier, I always
>say.
> "it makes me wonder if they ever hear voices in their heads or have a day
>dream, or are on a spiritual quest. Undoubtedly, they have nothing more
>pressing but to clean..."
My mom, who was always on quests for intellectual and spiritual
enlightenment, had a coffee mug with the words,"An immaculate house is the
sign of a misspent life", printed on it.
Blythe{ who inherited the same predilection}
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 14:57:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re:Pacing
Message-Id: <199712192257.OAA18060ATnospampnn.com>
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At 09:42 PM 12/18/97 -0800, you wrote:
Does anyone know if this restlessness is another sympton of K
awakening? I too have experienced this restlessness...and it has
gotten stronger in the past few months...i have always had a bit of
restlessness in my life..and mostly during periods of tremendous
growth for me...so i am curious to know if this present restlessness
is indeed K awakening more and more within me...any comments???
Lorianna
Mmmn. kinda like restlessness. more like looking into deep opaque lake
water, and knowing there is something huge swimming underneath the
surface.... but being unable to see it or know when it will brush against
the surface again. Makes me feel twictchy, restless.
Blythe
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:07:53 -0500
From: Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: neatness
Message-ID: <B982B2DC7C0ED111804600805F850AB21D0025ATnospamEX-DENVER-U1>
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I personally fall into the "casual" housekeeping group myself; however,
I have known a few people on the spiritual path who are quite the
"neatniks." The issue with them seems to be that they have trouble
disassociating their thoughts from their environment. A cluttered
environment seems to spawn a cluttered mind, preventing them from
thinking or listening well. The only thing a cluttered environment
spawns in me is frustration when I forget which pile the paper I'm
looking for is in :-).
- Mike
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:33:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Lorianna Burkes <lady_enchantmentATnospamyahoo.com>
To: Visic <magehydroATnospamicon.co.za>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: New generation
Message-ID: <19971219233333.19228.rocketmailATnospamsend1b.yahoomail.com>
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Ivo:
I have never believed that age has anything to do with "awakening." I
know some 5-10 yr olds in my area who are so enlightened, so aware of
what is going on in the world...and yet, they are so young i sometimes
ask myself how it is possible for them to be aware. I saw a 6 yr old
the other day out picking up trash in the neighborhood. I thought at
first that maybe he had done something wrong and this was a form of
discipline his parents used, but i was soooo wrong. I asked him if he
needed some help..and he if he was enjoying what he was doing...his
reply was..oh yes...he was thoroughly enjoying himself...and that if i
wanted to help mother earth breath better, then grab a bag and come
on. I could hardly believe the words out of his mouth....help mother
earth breath better....where does a 6 yr old get such a
notion....parents who are aware..or was he aware himself. As i worked
beside him for many hours, i could tell it was HE who was aware as
much as perhaps his parents. He was utterly disgusted at the things
we were picking up,talked about how lazy the world had gotten, and
expressed his desires to me of being an ecologist some day...and he is
only 6!!!
Those few hours spent in that child's company helped me a lot...made
me more aware myself...
Just to add my two cents worth on being able to SEE awareness in
people, i had an enlightening experience a few months ago. I was
sitting outside in front of one of the buildings where i attend
college, and i saw this girl approaching me. All of a sudden, i could
see this hallo affect around her...bright light that consumed her
entire body. What i gathered from this light was that she was aware
of the goddess within her. So i began looking at other people as they
approached me...some had as bright a light as her, some had a dim
light, and some had no light at all. But after a while, i began to be
able to tell if this phenomenon was within or not with these people
without even seeing a light...and i could even see and feel these
things with the few men on campus..they had the God within them. I
use God and Goddess as a gender seperation for my own personal
benifit, but i could tell that the ONE was at work here, regardless of
the persons spiritual or religious path. It was trully an awesome
experience for me and i just wanted to share this with everyone.
Love and Light...
Lorianna
---Visic <magehydroATnospamicon.co.za> wrote:
>
> Hi all :)
> As I walk around in school I see many who are starting awakening and
have knowledge of things which come so naturally to them. Children of
light and love can be seen everywhere. Just as we can learn from the
people who came before us and have already mapped out territory which
we can take further so can adults learn from us. Learning is a two way
adventure. I have had my fair share of being patronised because of my
age but even that teaches me. Our lessons come in many forms. I just
wanted to give what I am experiencing and friends around me who are
also 16 or so. Us as a group are moving quite fast and it is hard. It
still amazes me how the world has sped up in past few years and the
new generation intergrates it as it comes. We could not do this if it
weren't for the ppl before us who mapped out the territory and have
constantly held our hands as we explore and change as we bring down
the frequency of love and of light. So as we learn together we can
bring this earth into a new dimension.
>
> Hope I didn't ramble to much :) hehe
> Love and Light
> Ivo Visic
>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Hi all :)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>As I walk around in school I see many
who are
starting awakening and have knowledge of things which come so
naturally to them.
Children of light and love can be seen everywhere. Just as we can
learn from the
people who came before us and have already mapped out territory which
we can
take further so can adults learn from us. Learning is a two way
adventure. I
have had my fair share of being patronised because of my age but even
that
teaches me. Our lessons come in many forms. I just wanted to give what
I am
experiencing and friends around me who are also 16 or so. Us as a
group are
moving quite fast and it is hard. It still amazes me how the world has
sped up
in past few years and the new generation intergrates it as it comes.
We could
not do this if it weren't for the ppl before us who mapped out the
territory and
have constantly held our hands as we explore and change as we bring
down the
frequency of love and of light. So as we learn together we can bring
this earth
into a new dimension. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Hope I didn't ramble to much :)
hehe</FONT></DIV>
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:51:43 -0500
From: Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Auras (was RE: New generation)
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Lorianna was talking about seeing awareness in people as a bright halo
effect. It has always seemed to me when looking at auras that they
brighten as that person connects with who they are inside, so to speak.
Even when my own awareness is low and auras are mostly invisible, I can
easily see my pastor's when he preaches; my wife's when she's enjoying a
carefree time with our children; several fellow choir members' when they
sing; my own when I meditate. Has anyone else noticed a similar trend?
(or, for that matter, a contradictory trend?)
- Mike
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