1997/12/18 13:26
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #843
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 843
Today's Topics:
Re: No fear? Can We Talk? [ "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhot ]
Humming [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Lightening [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: freemasons [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: Lightening [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #839 [ "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.e ]
CHAT: Santa Tunes & the song in your [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
Re: Sharing [ Gloria Lee <glorybeATnospamintrepid.net> ]
Re: Gopi Krishna [ DonBBenson <DonBBensonATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: No fear? Can We Talk? [ DonBBenson <DonBBensonATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Love and Fear [ "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.e ]
Love<----->Fear [ Athena <starwindATnospamgte.net> ]
Re: Humming [ AKMLCJDaya <AKMLCJDayaATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Love-------Fear(rambles ;-) sorr [ "danelle t" <danelletATnospamhotmail.com> ]
[Fwd: Ruth ATnospam Anandajoyti] [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
holiday poem/LONG [ freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net> ]
Shakti in Photographs [ "Paul McDonald, TeleReference LA, M ]
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 07:02:57 PST
From: "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, DonBBensonATnospamaol.com
Subject: Re: No fear? Can We Talk?
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Dear Don,
You write:
> Where does the *denial of fear* belief system
>come from?
<snip>
>Is not fear, in this practical sense, a gut-level necessity for any
competent
>person?
It seems to me that not
>all fear is neurotic or psychotic.
>
>I think many children who are trained by sane, loving parents to have
healthy
>respect for natural, social, and spiritual laws are able to face the
real
>dangers and challenges of life with the confidence of Mohawk steel
workers.
>But if a child has New Age parents who declare that <only love is real>
and
><fear comes from false belief systems>,
<snip> isn't he or she in danger of being
>overwhelmed by <unreal> fears?
This is...I think, part of the inadequacy of the english language to
describe certain states of feeling.
I think there are natural fears, maybe we can call them survival
instincts..although it is said humans have few if any instincts. I guess
to separate us from animals, scientists are more prone to call them
reflexes.
Whwn I was studying pediatric nursing...one of the only fears we were
taught that babies had was of falling. How did they determine that?
By suspending a glass plate in the air and placing a baby, who could
barely, if at all, crawl on it.
I remember the look of panic/fear on the baby's face in the photograph.
So where do other fears come from? I assisted a doctor in doing a
circumsicion on an few days old infant once. Just once. Never, EVER,
again. I dont think memories ever go away, just become forgotten but
still have a subtle effect on behaviour, no matter how long past the
event was.
I think, IMO, that this maybe a semantic problem. I think, in my
paradigm, that fear is a feeling, born out of an experience, that may
have been shared or solitary. And is not in that sense fear a subjective
experience?
Maybe a better word to use is respect? To respect that which might or
can harm me. Then I would teach my children, that there are some people
who have never known love and will hurt them, rather than fear the
unloved and unloveable.
I have found, in my own experience, with diligent practice, tempered by
a growing discernment and trust in the guidance of the Spirit, that in
the realms of spirit/soul/the invisible...there truly is nothing to
fear. Love is an irresistable, unmoveable force in the face of
fear...particularly my own fear. Surrendering to Love, I can watch God
act in miraculous ways. Fear dissapates, it was never there. Just my
own belief system that somehow divine love was inadequate for the
circumstance I found myself in, and i was afraid.
As you said Don,'>I think many children who are trained by sane, loving
parents to have healthy >respect for natural, social, and spiritual laws
are able to face the real >dangers and challenges of life with the
confidence of Mohawk steel workers.'
I agree...healthy respect. I can respect *and* I can live without
fear, like an innocent babe. Who has not looked into the eyes of an
infant and not been lost and left untouched by the trust and openeness
that lives there?
Practicing living without fear...wow, what a spiritual discipline that
would be. Or to state it as an affirmative...practicing my life as if
God's love was the only thing that existed. WOW!
Much love,
Susan
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:24:06 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Humming
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Harsh wrote:
>In other Samadhis, the Nada (the divine music heard in the right ear)...
amckeon responds:
Is that why I often catch myself subconsciously humming when I'm doing
something I like? I was in a bookstore (ah bliss!) one time and I noticed
that two teenaged girls where giggling near me. I paused, and wondered if
maybe I had dressed funny that day... no, that wasn't it. When I went back
to browsing and caught myself humming again, I realized I most likely had
been humming away for quite some time, like a bag lady on the street,
singing to her invisible friend! I smiled at myself. I was glad to provide
the entertainment. I expect that the older I get the more entertaining I
will become :).
Another time I was in an exercise class (and probably in the "zone"), and a
woman next to me irritatedly said "Why are you making those noises?!" Once
again, I hadn't even realized I was doing it.
"In some cultures, what I do would be considered normal." -Kevin Bjorke
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:24:01 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Lightening
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Susan Carlson wrote:
>Personally my K is exciteable by electromagnetic phenomena... spasms of bliss
>>when lightening flashes (don't have to see it) I feel the lightening thru me.
amckeon responds:
Both my husband and I love thunderstorms. He even more than I. He'll watch
the cable weather channel and say "honey, a storm's headed right for us,
and it's a big one!" I always feel more energy even on days that are only
cloudy. And when a storm is brewing the air crackles with possibility.
Bright sunny days make me feel like taking a nap.
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:24:12 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: freemasons
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My father was a Mason. I sometimes wonder if it has cursed me in some way.
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:32:19 -0600 (CST)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Lightening
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On Thu, 18 Dec 1997 amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us wrote:
> Both my husband and I love thunderstorms. He even more than I. He'll watch
> the cable weather channel and say "honey, a storm's headed right for us,
> and it's a big one!" I always feel more energy even on days that are only
> cloudy. And when a storm is brewing the air crackles with possibility.
> Bright sunny days make me feel like taking a nap.
Sunny days are wonderfully energizing. Or maybe its the lounging in the
pool that is responsible :).
i think my dog lives on solar energy some days. Given the chance, he will
sleep outside all day in the sun.
That period right before a spring storm is my favourite. The wind blows
just right and sometimes you see rainbows.
maitri,
--dao
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 11:42:49 -0500
From: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com,
heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, lodpressATnospamintercomm.com,
hlutharATnospambryant.edu
Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #839
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Kurt Keutzer wrote:
>
> > Harsha wrote:
>
> > 2. Gopi Krishna's account is authentic and honest and has validity; it
> > also has very serious limitations which are obvious to me due to my
> > background.
> >
>
Kurt responded: I think what we're hoping for is that you will elaborate
your perspective on these limitations. Snip...
Harsha responds: But then fair play would demand it that I do the same
in much detail for Krishnamurti, Da Free John, Rajneesh (Osho), and
endlessly down the list. I suspect I would end up disappointing even
more people other than you. And if I am always disappointing people how
will they feel my great love! I could even be asked to leave the list!
Oh Kurt! Please don't frown
and please don't doubt
Santa is coming to town!:-)
Somebody help me with the Lyrics! I wish I knew them but I grew up as a
Hindu/Jain/Buddhist.
Harsha
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 10:00:19 -0600 (CST)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
cc: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com,
gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com, heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com,
lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
Subject: CHAT: Santa Tunes & the song in your head phenom
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On Thu, 18 Dec 1997, Harsh K. Luthar wrote:
> Oh Kurt! Please don't frown
> and please don't doubt
> Santa is coming to town!:-)
>
> Somebody help me with the Lyrics! I wish I knew them but I grew up as a
> Hindu/Jain/Buddhist.
>
You better not pout
You better not cry
You better watch out i'll tellin' you why
Santa Claus is coming to town....
He's makin' a list.
& Checkin' it twice!
Gonna find out whos
Naughty & Nice (at the same time she wonders ;) )
Santa Claus is coming to town.
(etc)
i grew up a materialistic american with shades of Roman Catholicism :).
oh great now i have the tune in my head.
i still remember the one time my husband & i went to our local ISKCON
(hare krisna) temple & i had a certain mantra going over & over & over &
over for 2 days! Why cant i get the mantra i'm supposed to be doing to do
that i wonder :)?
a friend of mine & i had a chuckle about 'songs that pop up when your
trying to meditate' hers was 'all i want for Xmas is my 2 front teeth',
mine was 'I engineer' by Animotion.
:)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 12:06:18 -0500
From: Gloria Lee <glorybeATnospamintrepid.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Sharing
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At 11:38 AM 12/18/97 +1030, you wrote:
>John Lounsberry wrote:
>> I do not share these feeling with my family and
>> those around me.
>Sue Macrae wrote:
>My holding back doesn't seem to be because I don't want to share but
>due to what I anticipate as a lack of understanding or frame of
>reference on their part.
>
Gloria Lee here:
Like the loneliness of the long-distance runner...it is only here on this
list and with some IRC friends that I find any support or understanding.
Due to recent other postings about staying on topic..I suppose even my
tentative attempts to post have been inappropriate also. What's a poor,
lost soul to do?? I am trying to read books also, but frankly, most of the
"advanced" info is way beyond my understanding. Is the list not for
"newbies"?? Not for those with a Christian background?? Perhaps its just my
rebelliousness to *rules* showing up in yet another form?? Shall I return
to lurking mode?? Since I have been off work, recovering frrom major
surgery, perhaps the time limitations are less of an issue for me. But it
seems that those who want strictly knowledge, could read books for that.
Its the personal sharing and diversity here on the list that helps me the
most. I have always been fond of the quirky, anyway. :)))
I just want to cast my vote with Sue here... as she said my thoughts below.
>I love the ramblings and assorted opinions on the list. Perhaps others
>don't have too many others that you can share the quirky, weird,
>wild and different thoughts, feelings and beliefs that come up as a
>result of K.
><snip>
>
>It isn't just the description of the K experience or some new found
>knowledge about K that is of value. It is the companionship, the
>bantering, the wisdom, the jokes and the frustrations that make me feel
>that I am sharing with friends.
>
>Love you all, sue
>
>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 12:45:56 EST
From: DonBBenson <DonBBensonATnospamaol.com>
To: hlutharATnospambryant.edu
Cc: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Gopi Krishna
Message-ID: <3f06671.34996157ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 97-12-17 09:56:28 EST, hlutharATnospambryant.edu writes:
<< Gopi Krishna's account is authentic and honest and has validity; it
also has very serious limitations which are obvious to me due to my
background. >>
Dear Harsha,
Though I am as deeply connected and indebted to Gopi Krishna as anyone,*
I quite agree with your objective assessment. These limitations are obvious
from the perspective of scriptural Christianity as well.
Of course I can still praise Gopi Krishna. For example, in this era of
sexual chaos and misery, from overhearing part of a filmed interview with him,
I got the impression that his spiritual guidance on love, marriage, and family
planning was on a par with the best Roman Catholic teachings.
Best regards, Don
*This connectedness was portrayed in a "past life vision from thousands of
years ago" in which Gopi Krishna, Yvonne Kason, and I migrated as a family
from Sweden down through the Ukraine into northwest India.
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 12:46:03 EST
From: DonBBenson <DonBBensonATnospamaol.com>
To: divine_goddessATnospamHotmail.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: No fear? Can We Talk?
Message-ID: <662392ef.3499615eATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 97-12-18 10:11:29 EST, divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com writes:
<< I have found, in my own experience, with diligent practice, tempered by
a growing discernment and trust in the guidance of the Spirit, that in
the realms of spirit/soul/the invisible...there truly is nothing to
fear. Love is an irresistable, unmoveable force in the face of
fear...particularly my own fear. Surrendering to Love, I can watch God
act in miraculous ways. Fear dissapates, it was never there. Just my
own belief system that somehow divine love was inadequate for the
circumstance I found myself in, and i was afraid. >>
On this level we are in complete agreement, as it is written, <Perfect love
casts out fear.> I have a preacher buddy who is fond of saying, <God loves
you, and I'm trying to.> Like some doctors admit they are just *practicing*
medicine. Luv, Don
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 14:17:35 -0500
From: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: DonBBenson <DonBBensonATnospamaol.com>
Cc: divine_goddessATnospamHotmail.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Love and Fear
Message-Id: <349976CF.6B84ATnospamacad.bryant.edu>
DonBBenson wrote:
>
>> On this level we are in complete agreement, as it is written, <Perfect love
> casts out fear.>
Quite right. Overwhelming love crowds fear out. It is truly then the
divine power, the Kundalini Shakti, can do its work without hinderance.
That is the central message. Those who dwell in love, dwell in God, for
God is Love.
God bless everyone with all that is best in life.
Harsha
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 12:31:59 -0600
From: Athena <starwindATnospamgte.net>
To: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
CC: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com,
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Subject: Love<----->Fear
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Athena here dragging out soapbox again :)
> Harsha responds: <snip>.. And if I am always disappointing people how
> will they feel my great love!
I know this was said as tounge in cheek within the context of your reply
... and it brought a smile to my face...
However, on the premise that we teach best, that which we have to learn
most, I would like to restate my ...LOVE<--------------->FEAR
....continuum premise.
*disappointment*...when followed to its source is based on *fear*
You cannot be disappointed in people unless you have build up some
*expectations* ...invested them with greater wisdom/knowledge/truth
than *you* have..in short, looking beyond yourself to *them out there*
for an answer...and when you find out people *don't* have that mystic
knowledge.... you become disappointed... the *fear* here is: I don't
know as much as you do.
Putting people on pedastles is a mind-game...feet of clay inevitably
show up *grin*
When you eliminate *fear* < and all its manifestations> ... only LOVE
remains
Metaphysics lesson #167 over..
Folding up soapbox ...
In cosmic Laughter we find Joy...an attribute of LOVE
Namaste
Athena
--
Love and Light unto your Path...THERE IS ONLY ONE OF US...Athena
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 13:25:14 EST
From: AKMLCJDaya <AKMLCJDayaATnospamaol.com>
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Humming
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In a message dated 97-12-18 10:29:08 EST, you write:
<<
Is that why I often catch myself subconsciously humming when I'm doing
something I like? I was in a bookstore (ah bliss!) one time and I noticed
that two teenaged girls where giggling near me. I paused, and wondered if
maybe I had dressed funny that day... no, that wasn't it. When I went back
to browsing and caught myself humming again, I realized I most likely had
been humming away for quite some time, like a bag lady on the street,
singing to her invisible friend! I smiled at myself. I was glad to provide
the entertainment. I expect that the older I get the more entertaining I
will become :).
Another time I was in an exercise class (and probably in the "zone"), and a
woman next to me irritatedly said "Why are you making those noises?!" Once
again, I hadn't even realized I was doing it.
>>
Me, too! I had started to wonder if it is a tic--a mild manifestion of
Tourette's
syndrome......but you've given me a different view....................Kathy
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 11:10:11 PST
From: "danelle t" <danelletATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Love-------Fear(rambles ;-) sorry)
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Athena writes:
You cannot be disappointed in people unless you have build up some
*expectations* ...invested them with greater wisdom/knowledge/truth
than *you* have..in short, looking beyond yourself to *them out there*
for an answer..
danelle: I believe this is so true! I have spent the last two years
dealing with this principle. It is a very hard and long process to
undersand that expectations create such fear and dissapointment in life,
and then to be able to come to the point where you live without them. I
feel very fortunate to have started this awakening at such a young age.
And even though most of my friends have pulled away from me due to a
lack of understanding...I feel so calm and peaceful inside. I know that
I am on the right path for me, and that the love and energy that is
shared thru all of us is felt by those who need it. I shall quit my
ramble for now....;-)
Blessed Be-
danelle
always look within.....thru the clouds of emotion the answers you search
for can be found.
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 11:24:50 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
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Subject: [Fwd: Ruth ATnospam Anandajoyti]
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This communication will help everyone more I'm sure. Gloria
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
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Dear Gloria,
It was a great pleasure to read what these to women had to say
about Yoga, etc.
You see, Urdhava-retas is all over the place, and yet it does not
appear in any New Age books. In that sense, it is still more or less
a secret, even though one can find books on the subject throughout
India. And no doubt the gurus pass it on to their disciples.
We should not equate Urdhava-retas, however, with celibacy. As I
have explained numerous times, moderation in sex is highly desirable,
but celibacy is not. However, the moment that Urdhava-retas occurs,
then one should remain celibate for a period of time, usually from
a year to 18 months. Etc. There is much to be discussed here.
It is obvious that neither correspondent has read Gopi Krishna's
autobiography, but that's okay, because they have more or less heard
enough about it to get the gist. It would be good if they read it,
just so they can say they have. But that's only one of his books--his
first. He went on to write 15 more. THE SECRET OF YOGA is excellent.
It was published by Harper & Row in 1972 but virtually no copies were
ever sold in the United States. The entire printing was remaindered
in Canada. We have since reprinted THE SECRET OF YOGA but it is not
being distributed, nor has it ever been distributed.
Students with gurus just will not read any of Gopi Krishna's books,
yet.
One point to be corrected. When Gopi Krishna had his awakening,
he suffered greatly. He sought help wherever he could. But he was
virtually penniless, living in Kashmir. He went to many gurus, but
none was able to help. He finally sent a telegram to the most
famous guru in India. He is still considered one of the very top
yogis ever produced in India.
This well-known Yogi replied that Gopi Krishna must find a guru
who has awakened Kundalini in the seventh chakra. This famous yogi
said that he had not.
What I would like to make clear to everyone on the K-list is that
the Kundalini Research Foundation has as its sole mission the promotion
of the idea of Kundalini research.
We have never raised any money towards this goal, but we are carrying
on, promoting the idea in hopes that one day some of these highly
knowledgeable, fully awakened, greatly Illuminated, entirely Self-realized,
compassionate, loving, Divinely guided, gurus, and their disciples, will
come to believe as we do, that the scientific verification of the
phenomenon of Kundalini would be of great benefit to humanity.
We do not care who gets the credit, nor do we care who gets the money,
nor do we care to does the research. All we want is that the research be
done.
That is why we asked the question: Does anyone know how to go about
verifying the existence of Kundalini in a manner acceptable to science?
As yet we have not received any suggestions from Harsh.
Sincerely,
Gene Kieffer
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 11:29:20 -0800
From: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: holiday poem/LONG
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a poem I found on the web.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
POLITICALY CORRECT SANTA
'Twas the night before Christmas and Santa's a wreck...
How to live in a world that's politically correct?
His workers no longer would answer to "Elves",
"Vertically Challenged" they were calling themselves.
And labor conditions at the north pole
Were alleged by the union to stifle the soul.
Four reindeer had vanished, without much propriety,
Released to the wilds by the Humane Society.
And equal employment had made it quite clear
That Santa had better not use just reindeer.
So Dancer and Donner, Comet and Cupid,
Were replaced with 4 pigs, and you know that looked stupid!
The runners had been removed from his sleigh;
The ruts were termed dangerous by the E.P.A.
And people had started to call for the cops
When they heard sled noises on their roof-tops.
Second-hand smoke from his pipe had his workers quite frightened
His fur trimmed red suit was called "Unenlightened."
And to show you the strangeness of life's ebbs and flows,
Rudolf was suing over unauthorized use of his nose
And had gone on Geraldo, in front of the nation,
Demanding millions in over-due compensation.
So, half of the reindeer were gone; and his wife,
Who suddenly said she'd enough of this life,
Joined a self-help group, packed, and left in a whiz,
Demanding from now on her title was Ms.
And as for the gifts, why, he'd ne'er had a notion
That making a choice could cause so much commotion.
Nothing of leather, nothing of fur,
Which meant nothing for him. And nothing for her.
Nothing that might be construed to pollute,
Nothing to aim. Nothing to shoot.
Nothing that clamored or made lots of noise.
Nothing for just girls. Or just for the boys.
Nothing that claimed to be gender specific.
Nothing that's warlike or non-pacific.
No candy or sweets...they were bad for the tooth.
Nothing that seemed to embellish a truth.
And fairy tales, while not yet forbidden,
Were like Ken and Barbie, better off hidden.
For they raised the hackles of those psychological
Who claimed the only good gift was one ecological.
Besides, playing sports exposed kids to dirt.
Dolls were said to be sexist, and should be passe;
And Nintendo would rot your entire brain away.
So Santa just stood there, disheveled, perplexed;
He just could not figure out what to do next.
He tried to be merry, tried to be gay,
But you've got to be careful with that word today.
His sack was quite empty, limp to the ground;
Nothing fully acceptable was to be found.
Something special was needed, a gift that he might
Give to all without angering the left or the right.
A gift that would satisfy, with no indecision,
Each group of people, every religion;
Every ethnicity, every hue,
Everyone, everywhere...even you.
So here is that gift, it's price beyond worth...
"May you and your loved ones enjoy peace on earth."
(c)Harvey Ehrlich, 1992
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--sent with love-
..freda..
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 14:41:22 -0500 (EST)
From: "Paul McDonald, TeleReference LA, Main Info Services" <PAULATnospamlouisville.lib.ky.us>
To: KUNDALINI-LATnospamEXECPC.COM
CC: PAULATnospamlouisville.lib.ky.us
Subject: Shakti in Photographs
Message-Id: <971218144122.8933ATnospamlouisville.lib.ky.us>
This past weekend I ran across a photo of Swami Muktananda and was compelled
to look into his eyes. I looked at the photo for about two minutes and then
went into a meditative state. All weekend long I was in this state, often
sleeping a great deal. When I slept I had the sensation of leaving my body
although I don't recall any visual images.
I noticed later that this began with the full moon, and I go in and out of the
state, regardless where I am or what I'm doing, since then.
Has anyone had similar experiences? Apparently that photo holds a great deal
of shakti.
Paul McDonald
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