1997/12/15 14:29
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #832
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 832
Today's Topics:
Re: Indigo Children [ Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com> ]
Unidentified subject! [ Radhakrishnan B <brkATnospamcri.co.in> ]
RE: HRTZEN: Initiation Dream [ Alan Stanier <alanATnospamessex.ac.uk> ]
Re: God and I [ Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.co ]
Re: Mystic Drills etc. [ "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhot ]
K measuring wasRe: HRTZEN: Initiatio [ "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhot ]
Re: More on the [ "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail. ]
Re: Kundalini and Science [ "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.e ]
Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #830 [ iri <iriATnospamivyrealty.com> ]
Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #830 [ freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net> ]
ALMOST TOTALLY OFF TOPIC, but funny [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: Hip (was 3 piercings) [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Blasphemy [ tgxxxATnospamjuno.com (tg langston) ]
Re: spiritual aikido--long [ TDVW36AATnospamprodigy.com ( THOMAS SMITH) ]
Re: Listen....... [ TDVW36AATnospamprodigy.com ( THOMAS SMITH) ]
Jealous God [ Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com> ]
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 00:08:00 -0800
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Indigo Children
Message-ID: <3494E560.174FATnospambest.com>
Morgana Wyze wrote:
I'm the mother of one of these children. When I was carrying him in my
womb the energies of kundalini were storming through my body. My son was
born awakened. He has unbelievable coordination and memory. He doesn't
look his age, seems older to people, because his physical ability and
motor control are so amazing. He remembers everything from his birth on,
every face and name. I often ask him to find our car in a parking lot,
or to lead me to an address we visited a year ago. He spoke his first
words when he was three months old...and yet he's not a "genius" in any
particulat aspect, simply advanced in all categories. His body looks
different from other children, not childish, the pediatrician comments
on his muscle development and fine motor control. He reached for objects
when he was a week old, held up his head at birth, responded to eye
contact at three days...could pick up a dime at an age when other
children couldn't grasp objects at all.
I always treat him with trust and respect and give him the whole truth.
He doesn't respond well to people who try to "jolly" him with stories
and half-truths. You can't lie to him even a little, he's instantly
aware of deception. There is no way to discipline him, he does not fear
physical discomfort an is infuriated by "time-outs". Luckily discipline
isn't an issue. I enlist his cooperation and give him reasons for the
behavior I want and he accepts this. He's telepathic and psychic, which
we expected because both parents are also. It makes life a bit
difficult because he can hear thoughts about a planned treat and wants
it immediately. He has a knowledge of people and their intentions toward
him. He has a keen sense of humor. He's three years old, with ancient
eyes.
I've noticed these children also. They make friends with each other nd
tend to run in a group, although everyone likes them. They are so loving
and socially aware that they are easy to like and love.
Now if I could only get my son potty-trained, he likes being a baby.
I remember when he was two years old, we were at the playground and
I was admiring how another litle boy his age was physically fearless and
was throwing himself down the slide. My son is cautious of his body, and
was alarmed at a rope bridge which swayed. He eventually mastered it,
but wouldn't try the slide. I was valuing the physical courage of the
other little boy....then a third boy arrived, and he was afraid of the
rope bridge. My son immediately took his hand and encouraged him across
the bridge, saying, "you can do it, you can, good job". The little boys'
mother watched this, and her eyes were huge in wonder. "is he always
like this?", she whispered in awe, "how did you teach him this?". I
replied that I hadn't, that this was his character. I realized then
that my son had an inborn gift for compassion that was far more rare
and valuable than the willingness to risk physical harm. I had been
reflecting a cultural value, and my son was then, as now, my greatest
teacher.
Morgana
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 14:15:11 +0530
From: Radhakrishnan B <brkATnospamcri.co.in>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Unidentified subject!
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I do have a small list of sanskrit terms (from www.spiritweb.com). Those
who need that can mail me so that I can mail the html file to them
personally instead of mailing to the whole of the list.
be blessed by the divine
With Regards,
B.Radhakrishnan
CRI India [P] Ltd.,
2nd Flr, Temple Towers,
Nandanam, Madras 600 035. India.
Ph. : +91 44 434 0520/4163/4538
mail : brkATnospamcri.co.in
"One should try to see One Self with One's own Self"
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From: Harsh K. Luthar [SMTP:hlutharATnospamresearch1.bryant.edu]
Sent: Friday, December 12, 1997 10:49 PM
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
Cc: Kurt Keutzer; smacraeATnospamcamtech.net.au; kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com;
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Subject: Re: 3 Piercings (was Re: Enlightenment)
.. too many Sanskrit terms and should be more easily understood. How
do I
get that paper on the Kundalini Resource Center run by Bill Peay? I
wrote him a note but got no response. Does anyone know?
Harsh
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 09:02:39 -0000
From: Alan Stanier <alanATnospamessex.ac.uk>
To: "'kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: HRTZEN: Initiation Dream
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> Gene Kieffer asked me to post a question to the list:
>
> Is there any way that science could set about to verify the existence
> of
> kundalini?
>
> [Alan Stanier] I don't believe so.
>
> The scientific method relies on the creation of hypotheses, and the
> devising of experiments by which
> the hypothesis might be disproved. Failing to disprove the hypothesis
> strengthens our belief in it,
> but can never prove it: some other hypothesis might explain the
> phenomena just as well.
>
> Thus science might disprove the existence of kundalini (though I
> imagine most, if not all, members on
> this list would predict that will not happen) but could never verify
> its existence.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> While I'm writing: I have been trying to get off the kundalini-l list,
> and onto the digest version, for
> some weeks. The listserver seems to ignore whatever I send it. Could
> someone at execpc.com perform
> the necessary administrivia, please?
>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 13:02:25 +0000
From: Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: God and I
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At 11:00 15/12/97 +1030, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I read the following in an interview with Huston Smith and I like it:
>
>Those who are reflectively inclined advance by knowing God
>Those whose emotions are strong do better to concentrate on loving God
>The actively inclined make time by serving God
>while experimenters become good meditators
Ooooh - I like that too. :-)
One of the things I learned from astrology is that everyone, and I mean
absolutely everyone, secretly thinks that everyone else relates to the
world the same way as they do - AND IF THEY DON'T, THEN THEY *SHOULD*, OK?
Luckily now that I've been studying and meditating for a while, I'm much
better now, thankyou.
<pause>
Errrrr...
:-)
R.
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 06:26:50 PST
From: "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu
Subject: Re: Mystic Drills etc.
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Dear Ruth,
You wrote:
>this thing of feeling an animal.. cat or not heavy creature walking on
my
>bed sometimes.. night or day when I am about to sleep.
This has been happening for years, since I was a little girl.
After awhile I quit questioning it and just put it down to benign house
spirits, curious about me.
One time I was in Sedona, Arizona for an intense week with a kundalini
master. And each night, i would feel like a couple of cats walking on my
bed in a house with no cats....sometimes they would walk on my body.
Felt just like a cat.
it was keeping me from falling asleep...finally I said...if you are here
just to play and for curiousness sake, please leave. And they did.
Cool, huh?
love,
Susan
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 06:45:09 PST
From: "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com>
To: smacraeATnospamcamtech.net.au, acarreATnospamconcentric.net
Cc: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: K measuring wasRe: HRTZEN: Initiation Dream
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Antoine wrote:
>Science cannot explain the simple process of fire
>with the archetypes it's using to explore this
>world. In simple words fire is a triangle made of
>wood, a match and air. It can only learn tricks on
>how to use fire. So how could it truly understand
>k-fire or k-awakening?
I really think it could be measured as an electromagnetic wave, in brain
wave changes, conductivity of skin resistance, plysemyography
(spelling).
my k master was able to manipulate an EEG (electroencephlagraph-brain
wave recorder) by just thinking...putting out delta and theta waves by
just changing his thoughts.
I read an article on the Deoxy site by a man who regenerated nerves in
his knee by using k meditations. Increasing the waves of K up and down
his spine...an electromagnetic pulse thru the fibers of the spine.
Personally my k is exciteable by electromagnetic phenomena...spasms of
bliss when lightening flashes (dont have to see it) I feel the
lightening thru me.
I love to play with Tesla coils...those little spheres filled with
colorless gas that have a static charge that run thru them and make
colors. They *really* excite my K...by stroking them the charge fills
up my aura, like a sexual bliss.
In healing...particularly therapeutic touch...you can search that out on
MEDLINE....there are many articles that verify the exchange of energy.
One of the manifestations of this particular healing energy is the
elevation of hemoglobin count...the molecule that carries iron in the
blood which brings Oxygent to the tissues.
Therapuetic touch also increases T cell count for the immune system.
About 10 years ago, I read of a cancer researcher in Europe who injected
radioisotopes into the body and was able to map the meridian system.
This was in a journal I read as a nurse. Wish I had kept the reference.
Love,
Susan
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 10:13:48 PST
From: "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>
To: trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: More on the
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>From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
>
>Hi Joe:
>So you cannot find David Icke.. have you tried searching? Yahoo might
>help.
I had this wild idea that when you included the URL in your last post
that we were to use that to read his stuff. Guess I was wrong. If you
want me to search please don't send me a URL I am a trusting soul I'll
expect it to be the address to use.
>>>>You write. Otherwise all the websites and books in the world prove
just
>one thing, freedom exists, you can write or say anything, no matter how
>crazy, and you will be allowed to get away with it.
>There is no plot to implant these in people. People don't come into
your
>house and do it in your sleep. It just doesn't happen. X-Files is TV
>show it is not real life.
>>>>
>Unfortunately Joe, there are many people on this planet right now who
have
>good reason to tell you that you are the one who is crazy. But you
have
>the "politically approved" point of view, so you can say this and feel
>quite comfortable you will not be having any visitors in black suits.
If you'd like references I can give many who will assure you I have
never had a politically correct thought or done a politically correct
thing in my life.
>Yes Joe: Freedom to be hoodwinked and deluded exists too. You can
think
>anything you choose and deny anything you want to. There is no plot to
>keep good people from knowing they are being controlled. There is no
plot
>to prevent the press from reporting the real news... Our government and
>the black projects which absorb millions of hidden dollars do not hide
>what they do and Saddam Hussein is a nice guy... REALLY!
>
>What is the point of having the kundalini awakened in you if you choose
to
>continue to be conditioned? With the k.awakened...It is possible to
>be able to see falsity and deception. Your awakening should be
>the end of denial...and self deception. It is my wish that your
awakening
>be a gentle one.
My awakening wasn't too bad, only problem was it took Vajra nadi at the
start and I was horny as a rabbit for several years. It hasn't been a
problem in a long time. It has been very gentle if the histories posted
on K-list are fair examples of what others experience. I have two very
talented teachers helping me and between them things have gone quite
well. Thanks for your concern.
As to my being conditioned . . . Years ago I developed the practice of
asking simple questions like:
"What must have happened/be true for this event/idea to have
occurred/be true?"
"Of all the explanations for this, what is the most logical?"
"What might I have overlooked when I reached this
explanation/answer?"
I hardly consider these conditioning unless you classify "thinking" to
be a form of evil conditioning.
In yoga this sort of activity is called discernment or discrimination,
both very wonderful words describing a more wonderful concept. Paranoia
is present when there is a total lack of this very valuable practice.
Namaste,
Joe
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 14:29:28 -0500
From: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
Cc: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>,
Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospamsynopsys.com>,
"heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com" <heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com>,
"kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>,
Susanne Macrae <smacraeATnospamcamtech.net.au>,
Gloria Joy Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>,
gkieffer%netaxis.com.rebirth%san.rr.com.normdonATnospamuic.edu
Subject: Re: Kundalini and Science
Message-Id: <34958517.5FCFATnospamacad.bryant.edu>
Prior to the experience of certain Samadhis, in a very natural way, the
optical nerves are stimulated and through this the brain and the heart
and indirectly the breathing is influenced. In other Samadhis, the Nada
(the divine music heard in the right ear) is experienced first as a
manifestation of the Shakti in a natural way prior to entering the
Superconscious state. Many traditions take the natural phenomena
experienced in various Samadhis (such as stimulation of optical nerves
or hearing of Nada) and incorporate them into techniques which are given
to students. This is why many of the methods of Kundalini Yoga (for
example, taught in Hatha Yoga, Kriya Yoga and Laya yoga) in various
traditions involve putting gentle pressure on the eyes and closing the
ears in various mudras. Many spiritual aspirants, with perhaps
understandable pride, talk about the secrets in their tradition, and
unique methods given to them by their master etc. Feeling good about
one's path is important. But to the extent that a division of "US" and
"THEM" (those not having the secret techniques) exists, it creates the
potential for misunderstanding. As long as one remains focused on the
techniques and tools of Kundalini Yoga, one lives in diversity.
Self-Recognition, being beyond the reach of all methods, and beyond all
secret paths and traditions, puts an end to all diversity. One then
knows the "Open Secret and the meaning of I am that I am become
obvious.
Harsh
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 10:44:55 -0800
From: iri <iriATnospamivyrealty.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #830
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No, you could not be in trouble here. Part of the problem is in trying to
pronounce the name of G-D...according to Jewish belief, as I understand it,
G-D's name is impronounceable by us. Therefore, all attempts at trying to
pronounce it are wrong. The best we can do is G-D, Lord, The Almighty, All
Supreme One, King of the Universe, etc. etc. etc. Additionally, there is no
letter "J" in the Hebrew Alphabet. That alone tells us that Jehovah is wrong
as the name for G-D. BTW, writing G-D is a convention for not taking (or
saying) G-D's name in vain, therefore by omitting the O it is symbolic of
not blaspheming the name of the Lord.
>As if they are even pronouncing it correctly! Yaweh, Jehovah, Yehovah, etc.
> etc.
>Could I be in trouble here?
>
>somewhat worriedly,
>amckeon
------------------------
Spirit of the Birch Tree
There is a Birch Tree in back of my place. It and the surrounding greenery
was sadly neglected. Upon removing the dead foliage, thinning the remainder
of greenery, and painting the bark with an insecticide, the Birch Tree Waved
It's Branches and then actually cried for joy at being able to see and feel
well again. It's tears, of course, was its tree sap. Nonetheless it
happened. (Not only the willow can weep as i found out.) The Birch Tree has
provided hours of shade and comfort unlike any other tree I have sat next
to. The peace and serenity it gives back seems to me to be a million fold
that which was given to it.
Blythe's story of the weeping willow tree served as a reminder to me of that
very special day that a bond (if that is what it can be called) was created
between humans and a tree.
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K- Energy?
My wife has a radio turned to a particular station (I do not know off-hand
which it is). The signal is very weak. My wife can not boost the signal at
all. However, if I walk towards the radio, suddenly the signal comes in loud
and clear as if the announcer is standing right beside me talking with us.
When I walk away from the radio, the signal weakens again. My wife can not
duplicate this phenomenon.
Any explanation for this phenomenon?
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 12:20:25 -0800
From: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
To: iri <iriATnospamivyrealty.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #830
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iri, you write:
<snip>
> BTW, writing G-D is a convention for not taking (or
> saying) G-D's name in vain, therefore by omitting the O it is symbolic of
> not blaspheming the name of the Lord.
this practice is one of the most ANNOYING to me. What does that mean?
If we don't know the name of God and couldn't write or pronouce it
anyway how does writting or saying GOD constitute blasphemy?
Personally, I try to avoid petty dogma.
This makes me laugh, like when the intertainer formerly known as prince,
changed his name to an unprocnouceable symbol, what? are we all idiots?
he is still who he is even if he doesn't use a name.
When I see G-D I get the distict impression that whoever is writting the
text is "ashamed" to acknowlege "which" name their god uses, or at best,
they are trying not to offend the "reader" or the readers god, what IS
the difference anyway?.
Really, folks, is God so very petty and vain so as not to want us to
accknowlege who god is? Are we sooooo low compared to God that we are
not worthy of even a word for God.
Jeeezzzzzzz.
just my opinion - blasphemy! good heavens!
freda
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 14:44:21 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: ALMOST TOTALLY OFF TOPIC, but funny
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This list is starting to get really tough to keep up with, so I just
thought I'd add to the problem ;).
< "I'm just gettin' on for a MINUTE"
>
> I got up this morning, but haven't yet dressed.
> My dishes aren't done, and my house is a mess.
> Have not done my work, have not fed the cat,
> Just on line for a second, and popped in to "chat".
> <~>
> I used to watch TV, I used to cook Mex,
> I think I remember...yeah, I used to have SEX!
> I used to walk upright, now roll on my chair,
> Tho' it causes the neighborhood children to stare.
> <~>
> I wanted to travel around on the Net,
> Been too busy chatting to get on there yet.
> I wanted to spreadsheet, word process, or paint,
> But gettin' on with them is just what I ain't!
> <~>
> So much to learn and I wanted to but
> I'm too busy chatting and splitting a gut,
> Talkin' and listenin'...is it such a sin?
> Oh, gawd, what a fix I have got myself in!
> <~>
> Then up pops a name on my neat Buddy List,
> Think I'll go out and give HIS tail a twist!
> And in comes an IM from some weirdo guy
> I cuss 'im, insult 'im, and tell him "bye bye".
> <~>
> Is there a 12 step, support group, or such?
> For those of us folks who chat on too much?
> If there was a group, I would like it just fine,
> Except that it prob'ly would be here online!
> <~>
> Are there therapists here? I think that I saw some
> Its got me, its got me, its power is AWESOME.
> It's my new computer, I've had it one week,
> Now I look in the mirror and I see a "geek".
> <~>
> Or maybe a geekess, but I see the signs,
> Please help me, please help me, please get me offline!
> Or better, please Email a burger and fries,
> 'Cause I'm staying ONLINE, at least 'til I die!!!
> <~>
-author unknown
Monday, Monday, can't trust that day...
amckeon
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 14:46:41 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Hip (was 3 piercings)
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Athena wrote:
>As I am drifting off into the alpha state of sleep, I can feel
>someone/something touching my left hip joint...it *feels* for all the
>world like a dentist's drill ...starting at the skin above the joint,
>and rooting deeper and deeper... in a pattern of a spiral... wider at
>the top, coming to a point at the end...
Something similar happened to me, but only once. I was lying on my side
(can't remember which one) and felt a "touch" at my hip that seemed to
gently dislocate it. No pain, just a weird feeling. I decided at the time
that I must have "wrestled with an angel". There is a story about Jacob in
the bible where he wrestled with an angel, who did something to his hip.
Hope this helps.
me again,
amckeon
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:06:26 -0500
From: tgxxxATnospamjuno.com (tg langston)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Blasphemy
Message-ID: <19971215.160726.8726.4.tgxxxATnospamjuno.com>
<<BTW, writing G-D is a convention for not taking (or saying) G-D's name
in vain, therefore by omitting the O it is symbolic of not blaspheming
the name of the Lord. >>
Wh- in the w-rld came up with that ridicul-us the-ry?? And h-w d-es
-mitting the O symb-lize blasphemy? Leaving the O out, leaves you with
saying 'G/D', which is short for the blasphemous God Damn. I think some
atheist come up with that one and is laughing his ass off right now
somewhere that it caught on. Let's hear it for GOD in all His glory!
xxx-g
*I assume full responsibility for my actions, except the ones that are
someone else's fault*
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html <~~~~~~ on the web now!
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:06:11, -0500
From: TDVW36AATnospamprodigy.com ( THOMAS SMITH)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: spiritual aikido--long
Message-Id: <199712152106.QAA16222ATnospammime4.prodigy.com>
Susan......
An observation I have experienced is, many people have had
ACIM in their possession for years but, there was no devotion
to their study. One does not have to be an "avid daily student of
ACIM for ever, just one year.
The workbook has 365 lessons, channeled as was the entire book.
It does take devotion, but that is each one's choice. For me
personally
I was guided to the book, its teaching, its Truth. I did not always
feel
like doing the daily lesson but I did them all 365 days without
missing
one day.........I would do it again too!
Towards the end of the workbook it states that if you understand
this
and that, that you may stop the lessons. (I forget exactly where it
is
located) I could have stopped but I had devoted a full year to God's
Teachings, so I completed it...
The mini-course, I'm sure, is better then nothing but, why do so
many
continue to look for a "quick fix"? I do not understand..... Maybe
you
can explain.
Fundamental: to the foundation; basic; essential; original; a primary
principle.
YES! I fully accept, I am a fundamental person. I like having a
strong
foundation, basic. I live in the Conscious of Essential Self, the
original,
the primary principle, the Source, the Holy Spirit...... amen
God Bless you Susan, and thank you........
____
The price of giving is receiving.
Tom
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:09:19, -0500
From: TDVW36AATnospamprodigy.com ( THOMAS SMITH)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Listen.......
Message-Id: <199712152109.QAA18056ATnospammime4.prodigy.com>
Dear Lisa....You are forgiven.....<s>
Stand looking at your chakras they are spinning in a
clockwise motion, if you visualize internally out, then the
chakra would be spinning counter clockwise. It may be
easier looking/working with another person at first.
Place your right hand 4-6" in front of the Solar Plexus.
You may need to move your hand up and down very slowly
before you begin to feel the spinning sensation of the chakra,
using a pendulum is an excellent way to read your chakras also.
Clockwise = direction a clock turns
I recommend using a pendulum allowing you to actually see
the chakra spinning. If you don't have one there is no need to
run out and buy one as you can make one easily with almost
anything!
The most inexpensive one is a piece of fish string and a small
weight attached to the end! You could even use a rubberband
and paperclip. Just be sure the weighted part has freedom to
move. Once your creativity has manifested your new pendulum,
start working with it.
Ask it a question, normally if the answer is yes...it will turn
clockwise. No equal counter clockwise, and maybe it will
move in a striaght line.....give it a try!
Once you have had your fun, it is time to check your chakras.
Start with your hand chakra. Holding the pendulum above the
hand chakra it will ture clockwise if it is open, if it is partially
open/close it will move from 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock in a straigth
line, if blocked it will move from 9 o'clock to 3 o'clock.
Be sure the pendulum is close enough to the chakra, practice
doing this before checking the others.......
Once you become aware of using the pendulum you may wish
to purchase a nice one, then use it as a tool. When I first began
healing and working with chakras I always carried my pendulum.
Hope this helps ya! <s>
To understand clearing chakras during Reiki sessions,
discuss it with your Reiki Master.
____
The price of giving is receiving.
Tom
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 13:20:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Jealous God
Message-Id: <199712152120.NAA17577ATnospampnn.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Sue H wrote:
>
>ShedATnospamMagick.net
>The minister of the Unity Church in my town reads and speaks Aramaic, one
>of the languages of texts translated into the bible. She speaks of many
>translation erors - one of which is the term "jealous God". The more
>correct translation would be "Zealous God". She teaches that to get the
>grains of truth in reading the bible, one must know the translation errors,
>know when it is "ancient custome", "grandious embellishment" ,"parable" ,
>"historical", "analogy" or "prophetic" accounting in what you are reading.
>I believe she has also stated that the book of Revelations is a vision of
>impending war between armies and a potential change in rulership at that
>time. Not something to drag into this current millenium hysteria.
Neil Douglas-Klotz has written a book called: Prayers of the Cosmos:
"Meditations on the Aramaic Words of Jesus". He re-translates the Lord's
Prayer and the Beatitudes. It's quite startling, quite lovely, quite powerful.
Blythe
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