1997/12/13 00:34
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #823
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 823
Today's Topics: Re: The heartless beast [ DonBBenson ]
Re: Twin Flame [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (The Lesser ] Re: The heartless beast [ DonBBenson ]
Re: Indigo Children (fwd) [ onarresATnospaminreach.com ] ego......EGO [ TDVW36AATnospamprodigy.com ( THOMAS SMITH) ]
Fw: Freemasons [ "Kirk Anderson" ] Re: Twin Flame [ acarre ]
Re: Sexual Chakra Energy/Kundalini [ TDVW36AATnospamprodigy.com ( THOMAS SMITH) ] Sexual Energy [ TDVW36AATnospamprodigy.com ( THOMAS SMITH) ]
Re: Dreaming [ Susanne Macrae ] Re: Text on screen [ Blythe ]
Revelation [ DonBBenson ] Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 20:47:20 EST
From: DonBBenson To: divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com Subject: Re: The heartless beast
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In a message dated 97-12-11 13:14:02 EST, you write:
< often the messages of which i have the greatest offense to are delivered by people who open up an avenue of healing within my heart.
who has not tasted bitter medicine before? And these messages are often
delivered by people I would consider my soul mates...for they hold a mirror up to my wounds.
>>
I know. By staying with one woman for 33 years, for better and worser and better and worser, even a man can learn these things. Love ya, {{{Susan}}}:
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After receiving so many replies on the ' Twin Flame ' concept I was disappointed in the fact that none of the descriptions were similiar
to my own experience. The majority are more in a romantic ' soulmate ' vane. Maybe it's just the labels people use.
I found my ' twin ' by accident and while it would be so easy to love
her in that romantic way it would still have to be in the good old fashion ' meet, date, fall in love ' way. She is married with 2 1/3
children, probably doesn't know I exist and she's 2500 miles away. So romance ain't gonna happen, my freinds.
Personality wise we may not even care all that much for one an other.
But the attraction ( electro-magnetic ? ) is there. Overcoming the draw my twin has on me is one of the most difficult tasks I have ever
faced.
My take on all of this so far is thus ;
Twin flames seem to be always M/F due to polarity. Where does that leave the gay population ? In my case I feel that if our auras joined
there would be a balancing. For instance, I feel a lack of intuition in my twin but I seem to have an abundance. She on the other hand
broadcast's an overwhelming will power that I couldn't begin to match. In joining, these traits would balance out in ourselves.
Two halves joining to make a whole works for me. However, this newly
created 'whole' in turn is another half in search of the next 'whole' in a sequence. My minds eye tells me it is a repair process. Each
flame joining the next after being repaired and only in an exact sequence.
Let's take the legend of Lucifer's fall from heaven as an example and
an analogy for the ' Big Bang' theory.
In the beginning something was ' broken '. It has been disassembled in order to repair itself ( expanding universe ). As it repairs itself (
contracting universe ) each piece being repaired is put back together again in reverse sequence.
How do these pieces find eachother ? The Universe being the whole,
right down to the most minute nucleic particle all resonate in cycles, the largest cycling slowest and as we go to smaller and smaller '
parts ' they cycle faster and faster. This ' resonance' is a marker. Recognize the marker and you find you twin. Join and begin resonating
a tad slower, new marker identifies the next flame in the sequence.
Comment are welcome, especially from those of you with your BS radar up and working.
It is, what it is.
Jack
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 20:47:20 EST From: DonBBenson
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In a message dated 97-12-11 13:14:02 EST, you write:
< often the messages of which i have the greatest offense to are delivered
by people who open up an avenue of healing within my heart.
who has not tasted bitter medicine before? And these messages are often delivered by people I would consider my soul mates...for they hold a
mirror up to my wounds. >>
I know. By staying with one woman for 33 years, for better and worser and
better and worser, even a man can learn these things. Love ya, {{{Susan}}}:
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List people,
Ruth thought I should forward this to the list. So, if you are interested this was the message to Ruth.
>Hi Ruth, >
>There is a book 'Notes From The Cosmos' by Michael Gordon Scallion, whom you've probably heard on the Art Bell late night talk radio - that covers
these same children, albeit he calls them the 'children of the blue ray', with instructions on how to recognize these children. This information came
to him a few years ago. Since I subscribe to GMS newsletter Earth Changes Report, I was able to reserve a copy - which I did. Later - looking for
this paperback in bookstores was useless. If you would wish to read it, it can be obtained by ordering it directly from the website.
http://www.matrixinstitute.com Take a look see, you may have already been there.
I may add that I have no monetary interest in this book and therefore I am
only passing on the information should anyone want to read it. >
>At 06:50 PM 12/11/97 -1000, you wrote: >>
>>On my web site I have an article from Kryon (channeled) about the children >>being born now... called Indigo Children...
>> >><http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/4106/Indigo.html>>
>> >>
>> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:00:52, -0500
From: TDVW36AATnospamprodigy.com ( THOMAS SMITH) To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: ego......EGO Message-Id:
The Ego. The lower self. The higher self. As if one is better
than the other. That is not true! They all need to be recognized, loved,
integrated, accepted and enjoyed -- in balance.\
Shama ==============
namaste' Shama
Yes All need to be acknowledged but the ego, lower self, is the chatter box that gets you to react to situations....situations that
also has risen in the past. If you listen then take action as you did in the past then your future will be as it is Now...
On the other hand if you quiet the mind and listen to your Higher
Self.....it will lead you to the correct path.....your future will change
and not be as it is Now.
If you want to know your past life, look into your present condition;
if you want to know your future life, look at your present actions.
What you are is what you have been, what you will be is what you do now.
It is each ones choice, Free Will.....
I choose to listen to the ego as a tool, but choose to act from the
Higher Self......not always an easy task, but worth the awareness.
Peace Within...... Tom
____ God Loves You Forever
Tom Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:09:35 -0500
From: "Kirk Anderson" To:
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Talk about synchronicity! This from another list: (Ifound it next on the queue after the last k-post deriding conspiracy theories...)
-----Original Message-----
From: Bee Llewellyn Evans To: Seedery ; htellesATnospamjuno.com
Date: Friday, December 12, 1997 2:18 PM Subject: Re: Freemasons
>Ahoy there Mates!!!! >
> As a Hereditary GrandMaster Candidate, mee Gramps trying to get me >to join....
>the Scottish Rite after getting the "Third Degree".... >
> Have beeen familiar with the "Big G" since reading me Gramps' books >in secret
>as a Wee Sprout...the Sacred Geometry of King Solomon, obviously >imperial
>in attitude, cultural conspiracies weaving thru TimeSpace and >architecture...
> > One of the central plotlines in "Earth, Blood, and God's Dog" (aka
>"Blowing >George's Nose") is revealing the central role George (Big G) Washington
>as the God-Man on the New World, replacing King George as the >Freemason's
>chosen military leader for their dawning "New Age".... > Read the news account s of the "Coronation" ceremonies and parades put
>on by the Freemasons at the "Birth of the Nation": not to mention the >outrageous, decadent PARTIES....
> > The reminder is painful even , in Washington State, where George's
>facew >adorns everything from Highway signs to Trooper cars to Liquor Control
>windows... >not to overlook the everpresent quarter and dollar...
> > The archetypal, and historic "Great White Father"....
>being carved into the Sacred Black Hills in crystal sparkling stone >was going WAY too far...the defacing is inevitable, I'm certain...
> > Along with opening the radioactive cans of worms under the
> > "WHITE HAUS"
> > Native Peoples will unite and liberate the Earth!!!!
> > Wow, feeling really radical today.....
> >
> O mitak Oyasin..... Blessings All My Realations.... >
> > Br'er Beezee
> >
> >
> >---Seedery wrote:
>> >> I've heard Richard Hoagland go on about the fingerprints of Masonry on
>> American history. The cities of Memphis, Tennessee and Pheonix, >Arizona were
>> both designed and charter-patented by the Masons. Hoagland sees a >schedule
>> for the space program, extending even to the exact moment of "The >Eagle's"
>> touchdown on the Moon. Why was a Moon-directed program named >"Apollo" (the
>> Sun god)? Apollo was the same as Orion in pantheon coordinances, >and the
>> constellation Orion appears in the NASA logo. Orion's appearances >at lunar
>> and other horizon points have been cues for space program events. >The Giza
>> complex is referenced to Orion. >>
>> I tend to think that if the Freemasons originated out of the >Annunaki somehow,
>> then they harbor the same ambivalences as "the gods". The "gods" >had a
>> concept of "big G" god. There's desperately Dark, and blindingly >Celestial
>> potentials. The "big G" force may have to step in soon. >>
>> >>
>> >>
> >==
> May the Power of Mother Earth be with Us > Love and Blessings of Many Hearts embrace Us
> Beauty & Blood weave true Magick thru Us > ALOHA from {{{EarthSeed Sanctuary}}}
> http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/5395/ > "History may not repeat itself, but it does rhyme alot."
> Mark Twain >_________________________
>DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free ATnospamyahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
YUK yuk yuk
242 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:27:30 -0500
From: acarre To: smacraeATnospamcamtech.net.au,
"Mailing list (Kundalini)" Subject: Re: Twin Flame
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I'm happy you love it Susanne :-)
Younger i had to think about something in my chemistry classes, not to fall asleep... I was
searching for truth with the tools i had, not knowing about spirituality yet.
Really, if you discover anything, i would like to
share it with you, and others. On this list or by private as you wish. So much to learn in this
world, with children eyes.
Some say the microscope is the image of the microscope.
>From observing seasons, the Chinese found the 64
yi-king archetypes, that apply at all level. Others found other system of classification,
alchemy symbolism, chakras, the tarot, the 5 elements before modern science, etc..
So why not play with the elements :-) I love
playing.
So lets play... First we need a board :-)
Easy to find on the net,
here is an address for a table of elements: http://www.concentric.net/~acarre/temp/none.htm
1- The mystic element:
Hydrogen, the first element, one electron, i like
to call it the mystic element,
The matter in all the universe is made from 60 % to 90% of hydrogen according to physicist. Being
transformed in the core of the stars. Our sun is made of about 70 % Hydrogen and 30% Helium (noble
gas). 0.1 % of other elements.
The elements on earth comes from start dust, of old suns that exploded. So we are star dust... Way
cool!
Our body is mostly made of hydrogen. H20 for water.
The reason i call it the mystic element, is that
it is the only element that reacts not to be like a noble element. He want to give away is electron
to become a proton, thus changing level, seeing illusion in the world of electrons.
2 - The 7th Ray ?
Also interesting, the last elements, very
unstable, live no more than 10 at he power of -X second. And they converge to a yet non existent 7
noble element. Maybe with time, something deep in the environment will stabilize that end of the
element table so they can "live" longer. This plane being stable enough to receive the 7th
element could it be a manifestation of the coming of the 7th ray, who knows....
> I'm going to work on increasing my Au elements!
Copper, Silver, and Gold (AU) form a same family.
I wish i could replace all my iron (atom at the
very center of the blood cells) by gold.
3- A way to tune to the frequency of those elements, not just "think" about them.
Spectrography...
The colors we se on object, comes from the last
electrons of the matter composing the object, bouncing away from receiving the source ligth.
Each element all have their very specific frequency (colors) at witch they emit (quantum
theory).
Looking at gold under a light, the spectrometer will decompose the "color" gold in the basic
colors of the element gold..
I still remember from high school the purity of the colors i saw, while looking in a spectrometer
at a lamp of mercury. So pure...
I have to go and get myself one of those small spectrometer, and meditate on what is behind those
so pure colors. Pictures don't reproduce the purity of those colors we see in a
spectrometer.Love
Antoine
-- "Bless all of your learning experiences. Your
lessons teach you to choose and behave even more wisely next time."
>From "The Enchantment of Opposites" by Patricia Huntington Taylor
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:46:22, -0500 From: TDVW36AATnospamprodigy.com ( THOMAS SMITH)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Sexual Chakra Energy/Kundalini
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Hi Tom,
You and I should get together (hahaha). I've been feeling it too. In
fact, sometimes I'm up most of the night tossing, trying to calm the
noise from my lower centers. Another disturbing thing. I seem to
fantasize about making love with another woman (shocking), rather than
having sex with a man. I've never made love to a woman. What are your
thought on this? ============================
Where do you live? hahaha
____
God Loves You Forever Tom
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:58:15, -0500 From: TDVW36AATnospamprodigy.com ( THOMAS SMITH)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Sexual Energy
Message-Id:
Hi Tom,
You and I should get together (hahaha). I've been feeling it too. In
fact, sometimes I'm up most of the night tossing, trying to calm the
noise from my lower centers. Another disturbing thing. I seem to fantasize about making love with another woman (shocking), rather
than having sex with a man. I've never made love to a woman. What are
your thought on this?
=================== Seriously though...........
I am not up most of the night but do shift and turn in my seat a
great deal throughout the day.....My question is other then sex what should the
sexual energy be used for......Thinking only of sex seems to be very
physical....not very spiritual. Don't get me wrong......making Love should be a
spiritual sharing....physical at times also!
If you are fantasizing having sex with another of your own sex...but
you have never done so in the current life's past then there must be a reason
you are fantasizing about it..... It is beyond my scope but, I feel that it
is natural for us to become excited by one of our own sex once in a while, even if
you do not physically take action....
We have been both man and woman in past lifes. We are currently both
yin/yang energy, so I would not worry about it but...get in touch with your
dream and see what comes up........everything happens for a reason...
Now where did you say you lived?
____ God Loves You Forever
Tom Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 14:49:14 +1030
From: Susanne Macrae To: Ruth Trimble
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Dreaming
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Ruth Trimble wrote: >
> > > At 12:28 PM 12/12/97 -1000, Ruth Trimble wrote:
> > >I wish I had dreams... does anyone else not have them...? I just My partner, Neil, also hasn't been a dreamer. He has recently started
dreaming though (and he is now 42). He spent 2 years not sleeping as a result of K activity as well and didn't sleep long enough at any given
time to have a dream.
Occassionally he would relay a "dream" where he was always observing others. I guess a bit like your night experiences? He has started
dreaming since we have become more interested in dream interpretation and talk a lot about my dreams. Now he dreams interactive dreams and is
really excited about the messages he is getting.
love sue Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:12:56 -0800
From: "R Wondga" To:
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Hello to the list
My name is Bob Wondga, ive been mostly lurking here for about a year now. Ive posted a couple of times but they didnt seem to show up on the list, maybe they werent supposed to, I believe that things happen for a reason . I have been actively involved in a topic that came up on the list a few months ago about "The Philosopers Stone" and a fellow by the name of David Hudson. I posted about who He was and what he is doing but that post didnt show up on the list. The following site is a very important place to visit and it covers the phisosophers stone and its attributes a lot better than i did in my post. I think that in reading Ruth's last post that it will be of peticular interest to her and to most all on the list.
THIS is the site http://www.celestialfire.com/ I would also like to thank you all on the list for making this a very beautiful place to visit. I have learned so much here and it has helped me greatly on my path. I hope you take time to browse the celestialfire site in depth.....it will be worth it.
Blessings
namaste ashtu Bob
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:15:31 -0800 (PST) From: Blythe
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Thank you for your words, Antoine. When this happened, I was doing some major closet cleaning in my personal life, and was way off balance. The
combination made me 'whackable', especially by this person. You are right that it is hard to face those fears when one is under the
influences of them, yet what a good time to do so. Sometimes the best way to deal with a charging cow is to jump up and down yelling 'Rougie! rougie!"
and kick her in the nose. Or throw a goose at her. *smile* Blythe
At 03:13 PM 12/12/97 -0500, you wrote: >So after that experince you know, that in you you
>have still have hidden fears that she could touch. >I find that when someone can touch me this way, it
>only means i have to seek deeper my fears. For it >not to happen again. If i clean the energy to fast
>the opportunity of seeing and facing that fear it >points to in me, will only vanish. And next time,
>i'll still be vulnerable to it. >
>But balance must be maintained also, as you must >know also. One cannot work on herself or himself
>to face those fears, if he is to much under the >influences of them.
> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 01:34:56 EST
From: DonBBenson To: d242kaosATnospamgte.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com Subject: Revelation
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In a message dated 97-12-12 00:06:03 EST, d242kaos wrote:
< Mouravieff seems to indicate that books like the Revelation of John are written by and for only a certain type of person. He claims that only a
person of certain spiritual attainment will be able to interpret the symbols in it, and that anyone else will be left with nothing but conjecture and
subjective interpolation. Like all of those symbols are a part of a very coherent, focused communication aimed at developing a certain spiritual
state, rather than >only>
I think if anyone wants to understand the Book of Revelation a good place to start is the first part of verse 1 in chapter 1, which may be translated into
English from the original koine Greek as follows: <The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants--things which must shortly
take place.>>
1. Unless one believes that <God is>> and that He is able to communicate with His creatures, the whole idea of a <Revelation of Jesus Christ>> from God is
absurd.
2. If Jesus is not my Lord and Savior and I am not one of His servants, then I am not in any position to understand the Revelation which was given <to show
His servants>>.
3. But, if I am a servant of Jesus Christ and I recognize John and the other biblical authors as fellow servants bearing <witness to the word of God, and
to the testimony of Jesus Christ>> (verse 2), then I will want to read the whole Bible. When I have done so (the Holy Spirit helping me), it will be
clear that the <things which must shortly take place>> are the major concluding events of this age which will take place within two or three days
(a thousand years being as one day with the Lord) from the time when John bore witness (Hosea 6:2; 2 Peter 3:8). A brief summary of these events can be
found in Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21.
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