1997/12/04 19:18
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #792
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 792
Today's Topics:
Re: Depression Month [ TomWinans <tomwinansATnospamearthlink.net> ]
Re: Depression Month [ David Hodges <dhodgesATnospamrecol.com> ]
RE: Doctrine (was RE: Multi-orgasmic [ TomWinans <tomwinansATnospamearthlink.net> ]
RE: Depression Month [ Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.co ]
Re: What is going on? [ MeadowartATnospamaol.com ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ vicki owen <BODAFONATnospamaloha.net> ]
Re: Doctrine (was RE: Multi-orgasmic [ Charles Michael Beaver <yodaATnospamband1. ]
Re: Doctrine (was RE: Multi-orgasmic [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
Re: Kundalini Flu [ Gloria <glorybeATnospamintrepid.net> ]
Re: What is going on? [ freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net> ]
Re: What is going on? [ freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net> ]
Re: Twin Flame Experiences Wanted [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net ]
RE: Doctrine (was RE: Multi-orgasmic [ Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.co ]
Re: Doctrine (was RE: Multi-orgasmic [ TomWinans <tomwinansATnospamearthlink.net> ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Kappeler Wolfgang <wakwakATnospamSingnet4. ]
dreams [ Nancy <NancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
Re: Depression Month [ Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com> ]
Depression Month [ TDVW36AATnospamprodigy.com ( THOMAS SMITH) ]
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 12:30:39 -0800
From: TomWinans <tomwinansATnospamearthlink.net>
To: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>, Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, smacraeATnospamcamtech.net.au
Subject: Re: Depression Month
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At 09:57 AM 12/4/97 -0600, Debora A. Orf wrote:
>i've noticed it too. someone sent me something to help my own 'blues and
>brillo-pad emotions'.
>
>it does feel like someone scouring me out like an old stuck-on burnt up
>saucepan.
Hi, I'd like to add myself to the list of people who've just gone through
a month of brillo-pad emotions......Really unpleasant.
One the bright side, I seem to have made a decisive shift out of that state
on Tuesday. Like storm clouds suddenly parting.......Let's hope it's not
just the eye of the hurricane. :-O
Anyone else notice a shift out of this very recently?????????
------
Surfing The Ecstatic Tsunami of Life & Love ~~~ Tom.
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 15:32:49 -0500
From: David Hodges <dhodgesATnospamrecol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Depression Month
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At 12:30 PM 12/4/97 -0800, Tom Winans wrote:
>Hi, I'd like to add myself to the list of people who've just gone through
>a month of brillo-pad emotions......Really unpleasant.
>
>One the bright side, I seem to have made a decisive shift out of that state
>on Tuesday. Like storm clouds suddenly parting.......Let's hope it's not
>just the eye of the hurricane. :-O
>
>Anyone else notice a shift out of this very recently?????????
Yes, I did. November was a terrible month for me. I didn't really have an
reason to attribute it to anything other than some very real upheavals in
my own life. BUT, yes, Tuesday I felt decisively better, really noticeably
so. Again, circumstances in my life would account for that, but still, it
is interesting to see synchronicities with other people.
David
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 12:40:43 -0800
From: TomWinans <tomwinansATnospamearthlink.net>
To: Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.com>, Kirk Anderson <d242kaosATnospamgte.net>
Cc: Kundalini List Posts <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: Doctrine (was RE: Multi-orgasmic)
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Without reference to the "doctrinal stuff", I've always
thought that:
>(3) It could be a variation on cross-time remote viewing. In
>other words, I may for some reason be "tuning in" to some
>one in another time and psychically experiencing their
>lives from the inside (instead of viewing from the outside
>as in standard remote viewing). Certain particular lives may
>predominate due to their strong "resonance" with my spirit.
was a greatly under-appreciated way of looking at past-life
memories.
Surfing The Ecstatic Tsunami of Life & Love ~~~ Tom.
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 15:44:03 -0500
From: Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: RE: Depression Month
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I wish I could give a good prescription for dealing
with depression/despair - for me the only thing that
has worked in the past is prayer and patience, with
the conviction that God is teaching me something
even in the midst of despair and there is a light at
the end of the tunnel, even if I can't see it now. He
has always pulled me through (though I have often
wished He wouldn't take so long). If prayer has a
place in your belief system, then I would encourage
you to start there.
A friend of mine used to sit and observe his feelings
of despair as if he was a scientist studying a set of
lab specimens - he claimed it removed their power
over him. I've never been able to detach that far (and
I'm not totally sure I want to), but if the feelings are
overwhelming it might be worth a try. I've heard of
specific meditations for that but can't remember
any of them offhand.
For me, while I have been feeling a bit depressed
this past month, I've just chalked it up to business
travel taking me away from my family for most of the
month. It disappears when we get back together
(something about a giggling 3-year old climbing on
your back that chases depression away :-).
Actually, this last week has been encouraging for
me as I've been reawakening my spiritual "mystic"
side - with the side effects that the street lights are
blinking at me again, my computer crashed, and my
dreams are blending into my waking reality in the
morning. I have noticed today, though, that if I can
cultivate a feeling of calm detachment during my
work I can avoid the computer problems - those of
you who also struggle with computers crashing all
around you might give it a try. I'm a bit erratic at
cultivating it so I can't really give a good "method"
for getting there. Also, it tires me out a little more
quickly - I feel as if part of the detachment is some
kind of "pulling in" of the aura or a subtle body or
whatever - so it would probably be hard to keep up
during long workdays. Which, unfortunately, are
what I'll be having for the next two months <sigh>.
If I get consistent at it I'll try to be more specific
about what I'm doing - if I can actually figure out
what I'm doing, that is :-).
- Mike
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 16:19:43 -0500 (EST)
From: MeadowartATnospamaol.com
To: mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: What is going on?
Message-ID: <971204161943_1082648179ATnospammrin53.mail.aol.com>
Life's been good, energy's up, connections are on the mark, relationships in
synch. The only thing going kafluey is exterior things...car accident,
computers at work that won't, etc. My health is really good. Flus that have
taken other people weeks to get over lasted a day and a half in me. All's
well. Thanks for asking.
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 12:00:47 -1000 (HST)
From: vicki owen <BODAFONATnospamaloha.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199712042200.MAA00773ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
HALLO I FIRST BEGAN TO EXPERIENCE KUNDALINI ONLY ABOUT A YEAR AGO AND THOUGHT I WAS GOING INSANE UNTIL I DISCOVERED THIS PLACE NOWI FIND THAT THE ENERGY IN THE WORLD IS ALOT MORE OPEN TO EVERYONE I MEET I AM STARTING TO SEE AURAS AND IF I THINK ABOUT SOMETHING IT SEEMS TOO HAPPEN I STILL DONT KNOW IF THIS IS KUNDALINI BUT IDEFINATELY HAVE A FEELING OF PROTECTION AROUND ME WHICH IFEEL IHAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH IAISO SEEM TO BE DEVELOPING A SORT OF SECOND SENSE AND HEALING POWERS WHICH ICAN TEACH OTHER OPEN MINDED PEOPLE IT IS SO GOOD TO BE ABLE TO EXPRESS HOW IFEEL THANKYOU
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 02:07:56 -0600
From: Charles Michael Beaver <yodaATnospamband1.bandwidth.net>
To: Kundalini List Posts <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Doctrine (was RE: Multi-orgasmic)
Message-Id: <348664DB.C945EA5AATnospamband1.bandwidth.net>
Dear Mindless Christians:
Here's a quote for all those who blindly follow CORRUPT church doctrine.
What does the Bible say about reincarnation?
MATHEW 17 VERSE 10-13
"His disciples asked, Why do the Jewish leaders insist
Elija must return before the Messiah comes?
Jesus replied, They are right. Elijah must come and set
everything in order.
And, in fact, he has already come, but he wasn't
recognized, and was badly mistreated by many. And I, the
Messiah, shall also suffer at their hands.
Then the disciples realized he was speaking of
John the Baptist.
Kirk Anderson wrote:
> Reincarnation as it is usually
> understood is not compatible with Christian doctrine,
> so what Ruth would probably see as just a matter of
> philosophy would to Don (or me) be a matter of doctrine.
>
> Hey, Mike!
(different Mike)Just curious. This matter of Reincarnation not being
compatible with Xtian
> doctrine: Where do you get this from? Even in the (severely pared-down,
> post 4th century version of the) Bible, there are many explicit referrences
> to reincarnation. Just because it is not taught by the mainstream clergy,
> etc., I think may be lack of experience, or deferrence to unfounded
> authority, on their part. Even karma, I believe, has its Biblical
> underpinnings. As ye sow, so shall ye reap, right?
>
> Anyway, as I attest or refute the reality of Reincarnation from my own
> experience, I should probably stop muddying the waters. It just seemed to
> me that this doctrine bit was a little inconsistent with the (brain-mind)
> evidence.
>
> Tata!
>
> 242
Sincerely;
Mike Beaver
yodaATnospamband1.bandwidth.net
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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 17:42:03 -0500
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Doctrine (was RE: Multi-orgasmic)
Message-Id: <199712042252.RAA03871ATnospamhoboken>
Mike,
You wrote:
(1) The favorite explanation of some of my Christian friends
is that these "memories" are demonic.
Pretty common. And that fear-based, judgmental attitude to anything not
understood is probably the single most off-putting facet of fundamentalist
Christianity to people like me. Even the so-called "Toronto Blessing"
effect, in which k is raised in fundamentalists of that persuasion, is
considered by most of those who experience it to be exclusive to
born-agains. K in anybody else is often/usually considered demonic.
You wrote:
>>I tend to believe that (3) or (4) is the most likely explanation.
In either case, these "past-lives" tell me something about
myself, whether because they are incorporated into my own
being (4) or because I resonate with them (3). Even if (2)
were true, they would be as relevant to me as my dreams.
The difference between my belief and reincarnation is that
in my belief, this life is it for me. Any lessons I don't learn
in this life I won't get another shot at in a new life. Once you
"pass Go", so to speak, it's on to the afterlife.>>
It is my understanding that the Council of Constantinople deleted all
references from the original bible to reincarnation. This was about three
hundred years or so after the death of Jesus.
>>I like to use Occam's razor (in a nutshell: the simplest
explanation consistent with the observed facts is probably
the correct one) in interpreting my experiences, though in
this case which explanation you see as "simplest" will
depend greatly on your existing belief system or worldview.>>
Yes, it is "worldview" dependent. To me, reincarnation is the simplest
explanation for a child dying at two of a lingering bout with cancer, or a
baby being born with horrible deformities. It is also the simplest
explanation I can think of to explain child prodigies---as well as to
explain the very experiences you described.
Love,
Sharon
shawebbATnospamyhc.edu
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Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 15:35:04 -0500
From: Gloria <glorybeATnospamintrepid.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini Flu
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At 12:37 PM 12/4/97 EST, you wrote:Don Benson did write this ???
>The widespread outbreak of gastro-intestinal and esophageal disease of
unknown
>etiology which manifested suddenly throughout the world at the time of the
>American Thanksgiving Holiday has been tentatively diagnosed by the Christian
>Center for Disease Control (CCDC) in Rockingham, North Carolina, as
><<Kundalini Flu>>.
>
Gloria Lee here....
oh, Don...you are just such a kidder..bet you had fun writing this little
joke..and whatever reactions do you hope to evoke with this little gem?? To
the tune of delete keys everywhere...may I ask simply if you hope to
provoke getting ousted from the list so you can justify your *beliefs*
about us *Kundalites*?? Boy, I sure hope that doesn't happen because would
hate to see you deprived of all this reading material which gives you such
food for thought...since you must believe confession is good for the soul,
allow me to confess that I spent almost all of my 50 years so far attending
Christian churches, albeit of the possibly more liberal flavor of
Presbyterians..(please favor me with your opinion of them... or not...at
your whim, of course.) So, I am thankfully aware, (as I would bet most on
the list are also) that your point of view does not reflect that of all
Christians.
Whatever caused you to diagnosis <unthankfulness syndrome> or to categorize
those on the list as "spiritual and intellectual elites" anyway??? Since
the context of your message seems to imply we are so lost and in error...we
must be dumb and unspiritual...(slapping my forehead and going DUH!!! here)
Oh, I think I *get it*?? Well, gee, gosh, thanky Don... for all your help
here to make me see the light. I await the ...whatever you say..
just punishment I so richly deserve...(or do I get off now for.___.?? what
I am sposed to say?? and *who* do I submit to now??) Please tell me where
to go now to turn myself in for my crimes here. OH!! Surely you jest,
Don.. you wouldn't want to be guilty of judging us now would you?? I heard
a rumor that with the mercy you show others is the mercy shown you...hmmm ,
who said that?? Better watch out - Santa Claus is coming to town. BTW, I am
usually not his sarcastic..in fact I write poetry...you just seem to bring
out the best in me, I guess. Hey, while your at it, thank God we have a
sense of humor here too.
>Initial studies at the CCDC in Rockingham have revealed what some researchers
>are calling a possible underlying causative factor in this illness.
Citing an
>ancient text, which is followed in all Christian medical schools, one member
>of the CCDC staff asserted, <<This may be a classic case of <unthankfulness
>syndrome>. Though the general population can become infected, normally the
>spiritual and intellectual elites - particularly those having a history of
>Kundalini awakenings - experience the most pronounced symptoms.
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 15:06:40 -0800
From: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: What is going on?
Message-ID: <34873780.1ECATnospamblarg.net>
I have seasons, patterns that the seasons bring on
that are repetitive, year. after year .after year........
Winter is for hybernation.
like a bear in his cave,
I'm all drawn in
indoors with myself
my thoughts
all the stuff I stuffed into my life
while the weather was more agreeable
is chrunning in my head, it wears me out
to digest it.
And like the bear;
I do not wish to be disturbed...
I just don't feel sociable,
I want to rest.
Of corse I get depressed,
to keep the dreaded cold away,
I have to bundle my body in layers
Only my face and hands are exposed to fresh air.
The sun, when it shines, in winter,
is blinding~ it gives me a headache!
And a sunny day cause
icy morning roads~ which I must travel,
taking the risk of injury
to my bundled, already-uncomfortable-body~
just to get to someplace
that, given a choice
I would not go
because all I want to do
is hybernate.
I have seasons, patterns that the seasons
seem to bring on that are repetitive, year
after year after year........ These are thoughts
which I had written about the winter ho-hums.
Winter is for hybernation.
Winter makes me feel
like a bear in hybernation,
all drawn into myself and my thoughts,
all the stuff I stuffed into my life
while the weather was more agreeable
is chrunning in my head, it wears me out
as it is being digested ~
And like the bear;
I do not wish to be disturbed...
I just don't feel sociable,
I am tired, I am resting
and rearraging.
I am digesting!
Of corse I get depressed,
to keep the dreaded cold away,
I have to bundle myself in layers
Only my face and hands are exposed to fresh air.
The sun, when it shines, in winter,
is blinding~ it gives me a headache!
And a sunny day means
icy roads which I must travel,
taking the risk of injury
to my bundled-already-uncomfortable-body.~
just to get to someplace
that given a choice
I would not go
because all I want to do
is hybernate.
..........
freda
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 15:15:00 -0800
From: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: What is going on?
Message-ID: <34873974.5EDATnospamblarg.net>
whoopsss, that was not so good.
should have proof read the proof on that one
sorry,
--
Freda ~ BE-IS-AM
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 22:36:54 GMT
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: NancyATnospamwtp.net
Subject: Re: Twin Flame Experiences Wanted
Message-ID: <34913082.24217859ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net>
Hello Everyone,
I'm a writer in Boston who's looking for men and women
between the ages of 25 and 55 to interview for an article I'm
writing. The article concerns the phenomenom called ' Twin flame '.
The experience does not have to be romantic and can involve same sex
twins. Some may use the term ' Soulmates '. The experience involves a
chance discovery of your ' twin flame ', someone you have just or
never met face to face but somehow know all about them. This
phenomenom seems to be happening to more and more people recently,
especially in the 40-55 y.o. range.
If you're someone who can talk about these experiences and how they
affected your life I would like to hear from you via email.
I don't need to use your real name, so privacy is assured.
Please respond to :
sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 19:13:55 -0500
From: Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.com>
To: Sharon Webb <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: Doctrine (was RE: Multi-orgasmic)
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Sharon,
<snip> It is my understanding that the Council of
>Constantinople deleted all references from the
>original bible to reincarnation. This was about
>three hundred years or so after the death of
>Jesus.<snip>
Do you have a reference for that? I've heard that idea
mentioned a couple of times, but so far nobody I've
talked to seems to know where it came from, or to
have any idea what the "original references" actually
said (in quotes only because I haven't been able to
verify their existence - please don't take it as derisive).
I'd really like to find out what the basis is for that belief.
<snip> And that fear-based, judgmental attitude to
>anything not understood is probably the single most
>off-putting facet of fundamentalist Christianity to
>people like me.
To me as well. One of the reasons I use "Fundamentalist"
to refer to myself, even though I know I pretty much invite
misunderstanding by doing so, is because it originally
meant "adhering to the fundamentals" and I want to do my
part to reclaim the term from its current connotation as
"wanting to subject everyone else to innumerable and
arbitrary man-made rules." I enjoy fundamentalism in its
original sense. I adhere to a small set of fundamental
beliefs which I periodically re-evaluate (and which I could
easily summarize on one side of an index card) - basic
stuff dealing with grace, faith, the death of Christ, etc. If
we agree on those, everything else is secondary; if not,
there's no basis for worrying about anything else (though
that doesn't mean I won't debate anything else, as long as
it stays cordial - I love a good friendly debate :-).
As I mentioned to Mystress in a private post, I don't do
direct proselytizing as a general rule, since everyone has
heard it already (and some folks rehear it all, usually in a
judgemental tone, as soon as I say I'm a Christian, without
me having to preach a word). I tend to think of my Christian
"ministry" outside of the church as simply trying to live a
life that proves that fundamentalist (positive connotation)
Christianity and loving tolerance are not incompatible - if
Jesus could do it, and I'm supposed to follow Him (that's
what Christianity means, after all), then it must be possible.
>Even the so-called "Toronto Blessing" effect, in which
>k is raised in fundamentalists of that persuasion, is
>considered by most of those who experience it to be
>exclusive to born-agains. K in anybody else is often/
>usually considered demonic. <snip>
Unfortunately, I've read stuff on one "fundamentalist"
(negative connotation) website where the "Toronto
Blessing" is considered demonic even in evangelicals,
specifically because of its similarity to K. Stereotyping
is a common component of human nature - "it's like that
New Age stuff, and since we know (?!?) that's demonic,
this must be too!" (Even if the premise was categorically
true - which I don't believe - the logic is still faulty.)
I usually avoid the same thing from the other side, but not
always - there are a couple of metaphysical places I gave
up on visiting because it was obvious that the people there
were holding prejudices against me as a Christian - maybe
out of suspicions that I had similar prejudices against them -
and nothing I said seemed to make a difference. It seemed
that they couldn't believe that a Christian could stand there
and talk to them without calling down the wrath of God, or
whatever. I didn't fit into their view of the world. Of course,
I don't fit into the view of the world held by a lot of my fellow
Christians, either, so I'm getting used to it - guess I'm just
a "metaphysical non-conformist" or something :-).
in His love,
- Mike
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 16:49:42 -0800
From: TomWinans <tomwinansATnospamearthlink.net>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Doctrine (was RE: Multi-orgasmic)
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Sharon,
>Pretty common. And that fear-based, judgmental attitude to anything not
>understood is probably the single most off-putting facet of fundamentalist
>Christianity to people like me. Even the so-called "Toronto Blessing"
>effect, in which k is raised in fundamentalists of that persuasion, is
>considered by most of those who experience it to be exclusive to
>born-agains. K in anybody else is often/usually considered demonic.
And while were discussing the Christian mind set, "regular" Christians
consider the "Toronto Blessing" itself to be totally demonic for the
very reason that it is so obviously K related. There's a whole set of
web pages on this somewhere.
Seems like the standard Christian mind set is: "Anything I don't
believe in/understand is *demonic* .....and yet as our evolutionary
timeline proceeds towards concrescence and singularity it does seem
that Christianity has glimpsed some fundamental truth of this process
no matter how badly it has been distorted by the sands of time and
the fingerprints of man.
For me the biggest struggle has not been to reject or accept Christianity,
but to accept the fact that my path has brought me to understand the
meaning of it very deeply in ways far outside the mainstream.......a
very difficult thing to come to peace with.
-----
Surfing The Ecstatic Tsunami of Life & Love ~~~ Tom.
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 14:48:44 -1000 (HST)
From: Kappeler Wolfgang <wakwakATnospamSingnet4.com.sg>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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hi everyone
i have been practising sutra meditation for nearly a year now and would like to find a teacher in Singapore who is able to help me with kundalini, anyone out there who can help me with this ? Shanti.
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 18:03:48 +0000
From: Nancy <NancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: dreams
Message-ID: <3486F081.2865ATnospamwtp.net>
I am curious...how do others view dreams? I used to think that they
represented my psychological work and processes. E.g., I am stressed so
I dream of having to row a boat against a stream before I get pulled
down a waterfall.
Lately, I have concluded that I experience very real energetic
interactions during my dreams. I am encountering the soul stuff of
others and they are encountering my soul stuff. I have dreams where I
encounter the energy of an event which has not yet happened. For
example, a woman I know was going to sell her business. In my dream, she
came to me crying telling me that the sale fell through. Two weeks
later, the sale did fall through.
I know day to day I am much more sensitive to energy around me since
awakening (K?). So it makes sense to me that I have also become more
aware while dreaming. Does anyone else think this way?
Nancy
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 17:50:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Depression Month
Message-Id: <199712050150.RAA27839ATnospampnn.com>
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>Hi, I'd like to add myself to the list of people who've just gone through
>a month of brillo-pad emotions......Really unpleasant.
>
>One the bright side, I seem to have made a decisive shift out of that state
>on Tuesday. Like storm clouds suddenly parting.......Let's hope it's not
>just the eye of the hurricane. :-O
>
>Anyone else notice a shift out of this very recently?????????
>------
>Surfing The Ecstatic Tsunami of Life & Love ~~~ Tom.
>
I'l add myself to both lists: the brillo pad and gloom, and the sun breaking
through.
B
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 21:10:09, -0500
From: TDVW36AATnospamprodigy.com ( THOMAS SMITH)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Depression Month
Message-Id: <199712050210.VAB15694ATnospammime4.prodigy.com>
The cloudy days are a blessing for us all to learn
The sun shines brightly ALL the time
The sky is it's beautiful bright blue as well
The clouds are like our inner emotions drifting by
You may sit in glum
Or, feel the bright warmth of the sun shining within
Realizing the emotions are a blessing also
Look at the cloubs
Look at the emotions
The teaching is there...
Growth is at its highest at this time........
Now, it is your choice
Which path do you choose
Glum or Growth?
Namaste'
Tom
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