1997/12/01 15:21
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #778
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 778
Today's Topics:
Re: Greetings.... [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
tantric schools (was Urddhavareta) [ Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospamsynopsys.com> ]
Jeremy Narby [ BedawnedATnospamaol.com ]
RE: Mini or Maxi (Kotex or Tampax) [ Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.co ]
Re: tantric schools (was Urddhavaret [ "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospamresearch ]
RE: The truth will out [ Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.co ]
Re: Knowing God........ [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: The Tantric Tradition [ "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospamresearch ]
Re: Multi-orgasms.. [ acarre <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ]
gender and development of God-love [ hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Ba ]
Fw: Warning - Internet Virus Alert!! [ TDVW36AATnospamprodigy.com ( THOMAS SMITH) ]
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 11:30:39 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: "Diepenbroek, Leticia van" <DiepenbrATnospamuss.uniworld.nl>
CC: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Greetings....
Message-ID: <348291CC.132EATnospamintercomm.com>
Diepenbroek, Leticia van wrote:
>
> Dear Guide, Teacher:
>
> As the days pass by, I discovered in the HRTZEN list your real POWER and
> "granderur"
> It is so nice to witness how people pay you tribute for what you are and your
> wise knowledge.....and I feel an "awesome" sensation......
>
> You are greater and more powerful that I ever imagined, I felt your strenght,
> however I never meassured its intensity, now I do.
> God must love me very much. Having you as my direct teacher and guide is a
> real "blessing" as you mentioned before. Indeed how "blessed" I am...... far
> more than I thought.....
>
> 1) As you indicated me, I have been meditation every night and sometimes
> I feel more sentations than other times, however the sensation in my third
> eye is more steady than before, the energy has been lately concentrated there
> and also the crowu chakra. I have not felt any speciol sensation in my heart
> nor in the communication chakras.
Gloria here:
This new awareness you have been given is directly related to the
stimulation of the third eye, thank God, even if it means seeing and
knowing more which will cause you to deal more intently with the now,
and also your self/ego issues. This is the process, don't be afaid or
run from it.
> Leticia:
> 2) Sometimes I have a very scary sensation while I sleep:
> While I am sleeping I feel a sensation like I "freeze", numb, paralized, I
> can not move and I get goose skin, I can not scream not talk. It is a very
> unpleasant experience.
> My only reaction is to call for God, for the light and to show the
> cross and pray..... (all this with my mind, because I can not move!)
>
> Can you give a comment dear Gloria
Gloria:
This is simply what it feels like when you are consciously leaving the
body, nothing to fear, it is perfectly normal. You are just not use to
feeling the going in and out. You can be trying to get back in or you
can just preparing to leave, either way it feels like your paralized,
the part of you which is life is not all inside of it. Isn't that
wonderful to have the realization? I have posted your experiences on the
lists because many have these same experiences and don't understand it.
Great gift of grace dear one.
>Leticia:
> 3) Not often, but sometimes I have dreams that my children get lost or
> something "bad" is happening to them, even I get up crying and tell myself
> nothing is happening.
> Lately since you tought me to observe, meditate and dettach I talk to God
> and I tell him: " Please" God take away these thoughts and I ask God to
> protect my children with all his love and guide their "young" lifes to a
> peaceful and lovable life.
Gloria:
This is so you recognize your attachments, it is very difficult to live
life without these specific ones because your children are directly a
part of you. And, you are being the grace to work with this without the
actual experience. You are asking to know where your attachments are,
right? Well you are being shown, just gradually see God however you
invision, Blessed Mother, Christ, Krishna, however, then see the Holy
Spirit all around you, feel it, know that this is the third aspect of
God, directly inside of you as your protector and teacher, anyway, now
see the Holy Spirit with your total acceptance lift your children into
their inner knowing of the Holy Spirit and through the union see that
they two belong to God. This helps you to see that God is the major
connection to all, and all comes from him/her. Then you also realize
that God gives us our children, while we attach to them as our own, in
reality they are children of God, as we are, and that in recogniton of
this interior process, we become fully grown in God. And literally
become that which we are intended to be, God realized.
>
> I am trying to find out where this "feareful" feeling comes from.....
> Can you guide me here.... this is one of the most (if not the most) sacred
> issues on my life !
>
> God bless you dear Gloria and I am so happy you are here ( I read about your
> dream)
>
> Love you dear Gloria
Gloria:
Hope this helps. Great experiences Leticia. You are indeed blessed,
thank God every moment of your changes because it will change everything
around you. God Bless you and your family. Gloria
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 11:23:25 -0800
From: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospamsynopsys.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: hlutharATnospamkeynes.bryant.edu
Subject: tantric schools (was Urddhavareta)
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Harsh says:
>There are three main schools of Tantra in India and all of them focus on
>awakening the Kundalini Shakti. Briefly:
>
<snip>
> In the Kaula School,
>the focus shifts to acquiring material and psychic powers. There are
>literally hundreds of books on Tantra (as practice within Hinduism,
>Jainism and Budhhism) in several languages and I can't do it justice in
>a short message. Read my paper on the Web for an integrative approach to
>Tantra without the use of any technical Sanskrit terminology.
That's inconsistent with my understanding of Kaula tantra. I'm sure that
there are debasements of Kaula tantra that are as you say but I don't think
that the entire practice of Kaula tantra can be dismissed so easily. The
reason I'm going out of my way to defend it is that I believe that Kaula
tantra embodies what we think of when we think of tantra - the explicit use
of sexuality as a means to transcendence. I believe that Kaula was praised
by Abhinavagupta and other authorities. Kaula works such as the Kularnava
Tantra provide some our earliest and most informative references to
shaktipat. Kaula has come down to us to this day from Matsyendranath
(praised in the introduction of Abhinavagupta's Tantraloka) via both
Shaivism (albeit with a few lineal hiccups) and Tibetan Buddhism. OTOH I'm
sure you didn't just make up your ideas so I'm interested at where you got
your perspective.
Mangalam
Kurt
PS Tried to read your paper. It appears that the website is down.
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:53:11 -0500 (EST)
From: BedawnedATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Jeremy Narby
Message-ID: <971201145310_-836951439ATnospammrin46.mail.aol.com>
Whoever posted a note referring to Jeremy Narby's _Cosmic Snake_, I went to
the bookstore last night looking for it, but discovered it would not be
available until April 1998. Is this true? Are there any websites that would
point to excerpts of Narby's book?
Fingers crossed,
Melissa
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:14:11 -0500
From: Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: Mini or Maxi (Kotex or Tampax)
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My two cents on the topic...
As a wag once said, "All generalizations are in some
degree wrong, including this one." It is dangerous to
generalize too much about what men and women want
in sex and affection (or any other area for that matter).
Before we married, my wife and I read stuff that talked
about how men and women relate to each other, then
tried to apply it to our relationship and went splat. Some
stuff applied, some didn't. So we have essentially just
tossed the books aside and concentrated on keeping
a continuous open dialog going. In only seven years
together our needs and wants have undergone quite a
bit of change, and "keeping the lines open" is the only
way we stay on the same page. It took about five years
to "synchronize" our sexual needs so that we didn't
have the "I want to, she doesn't" problem or (rarely)
vice versa.
We have experienced sex frequently (up to 4 times per
week) and infrequently (twice per month or less, and 3
months abstinence periods around the births of our
children) at various times in our marriage. Personally, I
have found the frequency to have less impact on my
spritual practices than the level of friction in our
relationship - an observation my wife has also noted.
We "go with the flow," so to speak. Sometimes we
desire sex. Sometimes we desire nothing more than to
spend long periods holding each other quietly on the
couch. We are learning to listen to our own desires and
to each other. When we desire sexual intimacy, we do
not worry about frequency - when we desire something
else, we don't lament the "decline" of our "sex life."
In considering sexual practice and its effects on
Kundalini we should be aware of our own situation. In
my case, I am rebuilding my "mystical" spiritual
practice after a long absence. I need to note those
things which affect me most - which right now include
harmony or conflict in relationships (especially family),
diet and exercise, and getting enough sleep. As I grow
and regain sensitivity, more and more factors will
become important and require monitoring. This will
undoubtedly include sexual practice at some point - but
right now the only thing I concern myself with about my
sex life is how it affects my relationship with my wife.
So, as always, when we discuss "right and wrong" in
reference to various practices and habits (or, more
accurately, more or less effective practices), remember
that we will often have as many differences as we do
similarities. Take what works, discard what doesn't, and
maintain respect for all (to maintain an effective and
cordial dialogue going between Hindus, Christians,
pagans, Wiccans, Buddhists, and all the other -ans
and -ists we have here requires a lot of tolerance and
mutual respect - but I think we can all agree it's worth
the effort).
- Mike Stickles
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 16:08:07 -0500
From: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospamresearch1.bryant.edu>
To: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospamsynopsys.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, hlutharATnospamkeynes.bryant.edu
Subject: Re: tantric schools (was Urddhavareta)
Message-ID: <34832737.7989ATnospamacad.bryant.edu>
Sorry Kurt, You did send it to the whole list. So I am forwarding the
response that I gave to you to the list.
Kurt,
Did you mean to send this to the whole list? Your message only
came to
me. Therefore, I am sending the response only to you.
You are right of course in virtually everything you stated. But you did
not take into account the last paragraph of my note that you referred
to. The gist of that last paragraph was "that great saints have arisen
in all of these schools" and therefore I do not make particular
distinctions. My paper is on the Main Kundalini Site as well (European
mirror site). Perhaps you can read it there. Best wishes.
Kurt Keutzer wrote:
>
> Harsh says:
> >There are three main schools of Tantra in India and all of them focus on
> >awakening the Kundalini Shakti. Briefly:
> >
> <snip>
>
> > In the Kaula School,
> >the focus shifts to acquiring material and psychic powers. There are
> >literally hundreds of books on Tantra (as practice within Hinduism,
> >Jainism and Budhhism) in several languages and I can't do it justice in
> >a short message. Read my paper on the Web for an integrative approach to
> >Tantra without the use of any technical Sanskrit terminology.
>
> That's inconsistent with my understanding of Kaula tantra. I'm sure that
> there are debasements of Kaula tantra that are as you say but I don't think
> that the entire practice of Kaula tantra can be dismissed so easily. The
> reason I'm going out of my way to defend it is that I believe that Kaula
> tantra embodies what we think of when we think of tantra - the explicit use
> of sexuality as a means to transcendence. I believe that Kaula was praised
> by Abhinavagupta and other authorities. Kaula works such as the Kularnava
> Tantra provide some our earliest and most informative references to
> shaktipat. Kaula has come down to us to this day from Matsyendranath
> (praised in the introduction of Abhinavagupta's Tantraloka) via both
> Shaivism (albeit with a few lineal hiccups) and Tibetan Buddhism. OTOH I'm
> sure you didn't just make up your ideas so I'm interested at where you got
> your perspective.
>
> Mangalam
> Kurt
>
> PS Tried to read your paper. It appears that the website is down.Kurt Keutzer wrote:
>
> Harsh says:
> >There are three main schools of Tantra in India and all of them focus on
> >awakening the Kundalini Shakti. Briefly:
> >
> <snip>
>
> > In the Kaula School,
> >the focus shifts to acquiring material and psychic powers. There are
> >literally hundreds of books on Tantra (as practice within Hinduism,
> >Jainism and Budhhism) in several languages and I can't do it justice in
> >a short message. Read my paper on the Web for an integrative approach to
> >Tantra without the use of any technical Sanskrit terminology.
>
> That's inconsistent with my understanding of Kaula tantra. I'm sure that
> there are debasements of Kaula tantra that are as you say but I don't think
> that the entire practice of Kaula tantra can be dismissed so easily. The
> reason I'm going out of my way to defend it is that I believe that Kaula
> tantra embodies what we think of when we think of tantra - the explicit use
> of sexuality as a means to transcendence. I believe that Kaula was praised
> by Abhinavagupta and other authorities. Kaula works such as the Kularnava
> Tantra provide some our earliest and most informative references to
> shaktipat. Kaula has come down to us to this day from Matsyendranath
> (praised in the introduction of Abhinavagupta's Tantraloka) via both
> Shaivism (albeit with a few lineal hiccups) and Tibetan Buddhism. OTOH I'm
> sure you didn't just make up your ideas so I'm interested at where you got
> your perspective.
>
> Mangalam
> Kurt
>
> PS Tried to read your paper. It appears that the website is down.
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:10:16 -0500
From: Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: RE: The truth will out
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Thoughts on women, men, and religion:
Ruth wrote:
<snip> But if you look at the whole planet you
see this same attitude in so many cultures where
the male cannot honestly deal with his feminine..
and the feminine is "icky"...<snip> and they have
constructed through religious dogma and rational
constructs all kinds of reasons why they do not
need women... do not need to acknowledge their
own feminine and can get along without HER the
Goddess, very well! <snip>
As a fundamentalist Christian, I get pained when I
see others claiming the same religious heritage who
pervert doctrines in pursuit of their own agendas. It
is no surprise to me that so many people looking in
from the outside think that "men supressing women"
must be Christian patriarchal doctrine, when a look
at church history seems to confirm it. A Muslim
friend from college reported similar feelings toward
people's reactions to Muslim fundamentalism and
the excesses of many who claim it.
I've heard of too many men (heck, ONE is too many)
who wave a Bible and quote "wives, obey your
husbands" and stop, as if that ended book, chapter
and verse on the subject and justified them in their
despotic exercise of power. That is not the end. All
that is, is a transparent attempt to justify a power
play (I've seen it attempted by women, too, but not
as often - in my personal experience women more
often attempt to grab power through manipulation,
men through domination - with, of course, the
obligatory and inevitable exceptions).
My wife and I find great joy and freedom in the duality
of roles in the New Testament. She seeks to serve me
in the role defined by "Wives, obey your husbands...
for the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the
head of the church...". I seek to serve her in the role
defined by "Husbands, love your wives just as Christ
loved the church and gave himself up for her...". Hers
is a service of obedience, mine a service of sacrifice.
Because the service is willing and mutual, there is
no "oppression". I don't make demands on her that
would be oppressive, because that would not be
consistent with sacrifice. She does not demand
sacrifices of me, because that would be inconsistent
with obedience. We concern ourselves more with
living out our own roles than with ensuring that the
other lives out their role.
Personally, though as a Christian I don't buy into the
idea of the Goddess and think that anima/animus
ideas can be taken too far, I have seen relationships
work (and fail) in many traditions and styles and roles
and so wouldn't say that any given setup is "right" or
"wrong" in the sense of being a viable base for a
relationship (right or wrong doctrinally is another thing,
and not something I'll bother with here in such a highly
diverse group). I would, however, say that an
environment of mutual love, respect, and service is
essential for a healthy relationship - maybe the only
true essential. So, a healthy and strong male/female
relationship can exist under ANY tradition which has
room for love, respect and service to flow both ways.
One "feminist" has told my wife that she (my wife) is
being oppressed by a patriarchal system. My wife
thinks that this woman is denying her true nature and
has no concept of the joys of submission. Yet, both
women consider their marriages happy. How? Both
marriages are built on mutual love, respect and service
which is manifested according to the beliefs shared by
the respective couples. Sharing housework is more
important in their marriage than ours; sharing faith is
more important in ours than in theirs. Both "work"
because they fit the beliefs of those involved. My wife
and I could wreck our marriage trying to follow their
patterns unless our beliefs changed, and the same
thing would be true the other way as well.
I could go on but this is getting long and I think I've
covered things...
- Mike Stickles
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 11:18:34 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: THOMAS SMITH <TDVW36AATnospamprodigy.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamEXECPC.COM
Subject: Re: Knowing God........
Message-ID: <34828EF7.5EFEATnospamintercomm.com>
THOMAS SMITH wrote:
>
> >Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
>
> >Gloria Joy Greco
>
> This is a beautiful saying Gloria but, it reminds me of my past.
> Now, not only during silence is God with me but always.
Gloria here:
How true, I live in the silence as well, but not many do. Not many even
know it is possible.
>
> I Am always always in the Presence of God......
>
> Listen to Me in the truth of your soul.
> Listen to Me in the feelings of your heart.
> Listen to Me in the quiet of your mind.
> Hear Me everywhere.
>
> Whenever you have a question, simply know that I have answered it
> already.
> Then open your eyes to your world.
> My response could be in an article already published.
> In the sermon already written and about to be delivered.
> In the movie now being made.
> In the song just yesterday composed.
> In the words about to be said by a loved one.
> In the heart of a new friend about to be made.
>
> My Truth is in the whisper of the wind, the babble of the brook the
> crack of the thunder, the tap of the rain.
> It is the feel of the earth, the fragrance of the lily, the warmth of
> the sun, the pull of the moon.
> My Truth-and your surest help in time of need- is as awesome as the
> night sky, and as simply, incontrovertibly, trustful as a baby's
> gurgle.
>
> It is as loud as a pounding heartbeat-and as quiet as a breath taken
> in unity with Me.
>
> I will not leave you,
>
> I cannot leave you, for you are My creation and My product, My
> daughter and My son, My purpose and My....Self.
> Call on Me, therefore, wherever and whenever you are separate from
> the peace that I am.
> I will be there.
> With Truth.
> And Light.
> And Love.
>
> namaste'
> Tom
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 16:43:04 -0500
From: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospamresearch1.bryant.edu>
To: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospamresearch1.bryant.edu>
CC: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>, Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>,
hlutharATnospamkeynes.bryant.edu, Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.com>,
kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: The Tantric Tradition
Message-ID: <34832F68.52EATnospamacad.bryant.edu>
Kurt,
Here is my original message that you referred to in your note. Please
look again at what I said in the last paragraph.
Harsh K. Luthar wrote:
>
> There are three main schools of Tantra in India and all of them focus on awakening the Kundalini Shakti. Briefly: The first Tantric approach (Samaya School) is purely Yogic and does not concern itself with sexuality. The followers typcially practice complete celibacy with the main focus of meditaion on the Sahashara Chakra (Brain Center). The Samaya School makes use of highly advanced meditations and visualizations and methods of breath retention. The other two schools are Mishra and Kaula. In the Mishra School, the Shakti (The Goddess) is
> Worshipped and meditated upon in the Heart Center. In the Kaula School,the focus shifts to acquiring material and psychic powers. There are literally hundreds of books on Tantra (as practice within Hinduism, Jainism and Budhhism) in several languages and I can't do it justice in a short message. Read my paper on the Web for an integrative approach to Tantra without the use of any technical Sanskrit terminology.
>
> My feeling is that great saints arise in every religion and tradition and therefore I personally do not make distinctions between various schools. If the context of a spiritual path is love and the practice of non-violence and amity for all living beings (including animals and plant) it will lead to spiritual ripening. For such people, Divine Grace is ever present, regardless of their religion or tradition or school of thought.
>
> Ruth Trimble wrote:
> >
> > Hi Gloria:
> > I would very much liketo hear what Harsh has to say too: >>
> > Yes Ruth, it is the upward movement, while it is rare occassion when it
> > actually manifests to the fullness, it is what will bring it all
> > together. This is why the sexual energies are so sacred and important to
> > go into transformation and never to be misused. In India I understand it
> > means the same things as enlightenment. I would like to hear what Harsh
> > has to say since he is also into Tantra. Gloria>>
> >
> > What do you say Harsh?
> > Ruth
> > ******
> > Your whole life is a cyclone of change, of changing scenes, changing
> > colors; but just in the middle of the cyclone there is a silent center.
> > That is YOU. (Osho)
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Ruth Trimble email:<trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
> > http://166.122.32.61/trimble/
> > *****
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 16:11:47 -0500
From: acarre <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: "'kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Multi-orgasms..
Message-ID: <34832811.A1C6F85DATnospamconcentric.net>
Dear Ruth,
> I merely feel that so many women I know suffer horribly from men who
> are
> not aware of the power they have to create a wonderful union with
> their
> partners. In MY experience, I have rarely ever found an American who
> has a
> clue about this power. I have found men from other countries almost
> all
> seem to know about it... and treat this behavior as the "norm"....
In general, sexual revolution for woman as just started 40 or 50 years
ago, for man it's barely starting. What a sensation of freedom when a
man discovers that orgasm are not tied to ejaculation. Finally he can
explore is sexuality, without being "scared" of ejaculating each time.
Something that is hard also for man to live, is feeling the sexuality
from all over, plants, the wind on the skin, etc. mostly on the beach
:-), for "something" grows and shows in men. Learn to carry "it" you
guys, you'll learn a lot on sensuality doing so.
When you say all men from other countries, don't you think you
exaggerate a bit? :-)
Love
Antoine
>From Montreal, Canada
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:28:22 -0600 (CST)
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: gender and development of God-love
Message-Id: <199712012128.PAA09700ATnospamdfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com>
Vivekananda wrote: "Calling God Mother is a higher ideal than calling
him Father; and to call him Friend is still higher; but the highest is
to regard him as the Beloved. The highest point of all is to see no
difference between lover and beloved."
The same point is made in the Song of Solomon, a.k.a. the Song of
Songs: "I am my beloved and my beloved is mine" (these are
traditionally words included in Jewish marriage ceremonies).
Ken Wilber makes a similar point, following Freud, when he theorizes
that there is a corresponding development in love of God to the
psychosexual stages, i.e., oral, anal, Oedipal, latent and
mature/genital.
There is a sexual component to all human love because we are living
creatures, but the aim and experience of love may, IN ADDITION,
transcend gender and duality. We don't ever lose who we have been, but
layers get added and then the whole structure reconfigures. Holly
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:36:36, -0500
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Subject: Fw: Warning - Internet Virus Alert!!
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 13:15:12 -0500
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Subject: Warning - Internet Virus Alert!!
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Beware!!
Important!!
This information was received this morning from IBM, please share it
with
anyone that might access the Internet: If anyone receives e-mail
entitled
"PENPAL GREETINGS!" please delete it WHITOUT READING IT!!!.
This is a warning for all Internet users, there is a dangerous
virus
propagating
across the Internet through an e-mail message entitled "PENPAL>
GRETINGS!".
DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY MESSAGE ENTITLED 'PENPAL GREETINGS!!".
This message appears to be friendly letter asking you if you are
interested in a penpal, but by the time you read the letter, it is
too
late.
The "TROJAN HORSE" virus will have already infected the boot sector
of your
hard drive, destroying all of the data present. It is a self-
replicating
virus, and
once the message is read, it will AUTOMATICALLY forward itself to
anyone
whose e-mail adress is present in YOUR mailbox!. This virus will
DESTROY
YOUR HARD DRIVE, and holds the potential to DESTROY the hard drive
of
anyone whose mail is in your IN BOX, and whose mail is in their in
box and
so
on. If this virus keeps getting passed, it has the potential to do a
great
deal of damage to computer networks worldwide!!!!.
Please, delete the message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS!" AS SOON AS
YOU
SEE IT!.
Pass this message along to all of your friends and other readers of
the
newsgroups and mailing lists wich you are on so that they are not
hurt by
this
DANGEROUS VIRUS!!!
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