1997/12/01 12:46
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #777
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 777
Today's Topics:
Re: The truth will out (Am) [ Am <heidiATnospamadan.kingston.net> ]
Re: The truth will out (Am) [ Bohemial <BohemialATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: The truth will out [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
2nd chakra--Negative not necessarily [ ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com> ]
Re: The truth will out (Ruth) [ "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch ]
Knowing God........ [ TDVW36AATnospamprodigy.com ( THOMAS SMITH) ]
Re: The truth will out... [ TDVW36AATnospamprodigy.com ( THOMAS SMITH) ]
Off Topic: Advaita [ Radhakrishnan B <brkATnospamcri.co.in> ]
Re: The truth will out [ Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.co ]
RE: The 'I' [ Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.c ]
RE: Mini or Maxi (Kotex or Tampax) [ Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.c ]
RE: The 'I' [ Pam Myers <pmyersATnospammail.coin.missour ]
bodily fluids [ hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Ba ]
Re: The 'I' [ "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospamresearch ]
Re: Defending Dieter (was Mini or Ma [ "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospamresearch ]
Re: 2nd chakra--Negative not necessa [ M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> ]
Re: Off Topic: Advaita [ "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospamresearch ]
Re: The 'I' [ SchrLLATnospamaol.com ]
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 00:55:38 -0500
From: Am <heidiATnospamadan.kingston.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: The truth will out (Am)
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>
>What I should have said was "The man (if he is a man) refuses to play a
>power game and finds someone else who wants to be close to him."
>
>Perhaps you should have said that.
>>I wasn't going to comment on this topic because some things should not be
>>touched with the proverbial pole if they are ridiculous enough. These
>>backbitings from people who profess to be ENLIGHTENED?
>>
>
>interesting that you think the topic of sexuality is ridiculous and not to
>be touched with a ten foot pole. I guess that tells me everything I don't
>need to know about you. :-)
now you're twisting things around to suit your purpose. When I perceive the
UNIVERSE with my lover EVERY time we engage in this ecstatic union which
seems to last eons, we are baffled how it could ever have been called just
sex. We are usually walking around like in a drunken state for the rest of
the day; as if coming out of another dimension.
It shows, how you've put your foot in your mouth and now you are trying to
extricate some really dumb statements. Who is stopping you? Not I. And to
prove it, this is my last statement to you;
In my generosity and good will, I WILL LET YOU HAVE THE LAST WORD to enable
you to save face no matter what you come back with. :) :) :) :)
chuckling.......Am
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 00:58:57 EST
From: Bohemial <BohemialATnospamaol.com>
To: danteATnospampop.interport.net, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: BohemialATnospamaol.com
Subject: Re: The truth will out (Am)
Message-ID: <dcd6e017.34825223ATnospamaol.com>
Hey every body,
I was interested in finding out who out of all you Kundalini Yoga
practicioners --
are practicing SEXUAL ENERGY CULTIVATION.(not having external orgasms)
For all you celibates --- YOU CAN' T CRAM A BILLION DOLLARS IN THAT
ONE COOKIE JAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry guys -- don't kid your selves.
I ' ve investigated Tantra -- which I think I am correct in saying that it is
okay
with the tantrists to release the sexual fluids in orgasm externally.
In the Tao of Loving -- they perform Kundalini yoga during the sexual act and
each partener has an inner orgasm while keeping in control of themselves
and absorbing the opposite energy from the partener.
Mantak Chia's " Cultivating Male Sexual Energy " book did wonders to transform
my life. (there is a book called "Cultivating Female Sexual Energy" as well,
Ladies.)
I want to know if any of you practice the Tao of Loving -- and how has it
improved your life ?
>From Luke
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 22:22:29 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Teresa <TGarlandATnospamVIPMail.com>
CC: fredaATnospamblarg.net, M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>,
Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com,
heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
Subject: Re: The truth will out
Message-ID: <3481D913.5CB0ATnospamintercomm.com>
Teresa wrote:
>
> Here, here. There is must too much negative energy being spent on this.
> Please, let's just get back to the topic of kundalini.
> Teresa
Gloria here:
This happens every time the cycle dips in the ebb and flow, just notice
the illusion and pull up and out of it. This is when the ego and
personality is stronger, instead of just falling into it...when you
catch yourself in the lower self responce, step back and observe. You
don't have to feed it. Gloria
>
>
> > --
> > Freda ~ BE-IS-AM
> > http://www.blarg.net/~freda/01rg/hm/frhm.htm
> > ICQ # 4323543
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 22:57:22 -0800
From: ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com>
To: Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: 2nd chakra--Negative not necessarily bad
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Dieter wrote....
>"Also, note that the second chakra has 6 propensities - disdain, stupor,
>over-indulgence, distrust, fear of annihilation, pitilessness.
In response Rick Puravs wrote:
>These propensities are all negative. Surely the chakras, being sacred and
all,
>must have positive propensities as well. Creativity and increased refinement
>in the case of this chakra. I'm sure somebody a bit more familiar with these
>systems can list more positive qualities.
I'm not sure which system Dieter is drawing from, however I find it
interesting that in the Ten Body System, the 2nd body/chakra corresponds
with the Negative Mind. And since I was asked about this by someone else
I thought I'd share a little from the Numerology books.
"Negative/Protective mind characteristics: It has nothing to do with
negativity, but is the 1st step in the thought process of looking
to find inherent dangers in any situation."
The thought process was explained as follows:
in a given situation the 2nd body will evaluate all that could go wrong,
the 3rd body/Positive mind evaluates all that could go right
the 4th body/Neutral mind evaluates the input of the negative and
positive minds and gives you guidance (within 9 seconds)
Sometimes though we can get caught up in that evaluation process and
the decision is made before it reaches the neutral mind.
"Your negative mind helps you give form to the creativity of your
soul body by giving you the gifts of containment, form, and discernment.
It also instills in you a longing to belong, which in its highest
expression drives you to connect very deeply with your own God self.
If your negative mind is underdeveloped, your longing to belong can
cause you to get into inappropriate, self-destructive relationships
because you are overly influenced by others; you aren't contained
enough in your own center."
The 2nd body gives us a lot of "negative" information about whatever
comes up in our life so that we can provide for every contingency in
order to protect ourselves... A strong 2nd body serves us by giving
foresight and helping create contingency plans. It gives us the
patience to be obedient to our own inner guidance.
I know that in my own life I've seen plenty of evidence of a
"weak" or underdeveloped 2nd body and have had the tendency to
get caught up in negativity at times, without ever letting the
views of the 3rd body be voiced.
So... I'm not sure if the system Dieter is drawing from offers
anything further about the positive side of the negativity, but
I found the parallels interesting.
In service to the process of awakening,
ori^
oriATnospameskimo.com ICQ: 2918880
http://www.eskimo.com/~ori/ori.html
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 08:52:09 +0100
From: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
To: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: The truth will out (Ruth)
Message-ID: <34826CA9.44ABC344ATnospambluewin.ch>
Ruth Trimble wrote:
>
> Hi Jason:
> Loved your thoughtful post. I agree it is not all male stuff that is off.
> We women have been too busy holding you all up and enabling.. I think that
> has to end. We have to cut the helping cords and say... "Lud let them help
> themselves, they have all we have after all." This I have done recently
> and have found the man that was hidden because I was rescuing too much. It
> is really now wonderful to see that men can make it on their own and we
> can now truly co-create with them instead of having to prop them up all
> the time in the emotion and heart department! This is progress and
> freedom for all. Roll on the future and cocreation! Ruth
Now that is a good feeling. No doubt men and women will continue to prop each
other up and cut each other down as love's shadow is unavoidable. But it is so
refreshing to find the place you describe above with someone you love.
Enjoy.
Love. Jason.
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 05:51:46, -0500
From: TDVW36AATnospamprodigy.com ( THOMAS SMITH)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Knowing God........
Message-Id: <199712011051.FAA17100ATnospammime4.prodigy.com>
>Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
>Gloria Joy Greco
This is a beautiful saying Gloria but, it reminds me of my past.
Now, not only during silence is God with me but always.
I Am always always in the Presence of God......
Listen to Me in the truth of your soul.
Listen to Me in the feelings of your heart.
Listen to Me in the quiet of your mind.
Hear Me everywhere.
Whenever you have a question, simply know that I have answered it
already.
Then open your eyes to your world.
My response could be in an article already published.
In the sermon already written and about to be delivered.
In the movie now being made.
In the song just yesterday composed.
In the words about to be said by a loved one.
In the heart of a new friend about to be made.
My Truth is in the whisper of the wind, the babble of the brook the
crack of the thunder, the tap of the rain.
It is the feel of the earth, the fragrance of the lily, the warmth of
the sun, the pull of the moon.
My Truth-and your surest help in time of need- is as awesome as the
night sky, and as simply, incontrovertibly, trustful as a baby's
gurgle.
It is as loud as a pounding heartbeat-and as quiet as a breath taken
in unity with Me.
I will not leave you,
I cannot leave you, for you are My creation and My product, My
daughter and My son, My purpose and My....Self.
Call on Me, therefore, wherever and whenever you are separate from
the peace that I am.
I will be there.
With Truth.
And Light.
And Love.
namaste'
Tom
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 06:06:49, -0500
From: TDVW36AATnospamprodigy.com ( THOMAS SMITH)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The truth will out...
Message-Id: <199712011106.GAA17426ATnospammime4.prodigy.com>
I have found this discusion very interesting.
All on this list, I assume, realize we ALL are both fe/male energy.
We are a Soul having a human experience, with a beautiful vessel
to use. We ALL have been human fe/male beings in past lifes......
It is a Blessing having a female experience.....giving/creating
birth/life, something
todays male needs to get in touch with..........and respect.
So the point I Am focusing on is...... It is time to Be as One, not
two
separates...........Unconditional Love.......the merging of All...
Unity.
God Bless
Tom
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 18:08:38 +0530
From: Radhakrishnan B <brkATnospamcri.co.in>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Off Topic: Advaita
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Hi
I am interested in knowing more about Advaitha (the concept of One
force). Sorry if this is bit out of topic. can any one link me to some
URLs.
With Regards,
B.Radhakrishnan
CRI India [P] Ltd.,
2nd Flr, Temple Towers,
Nandanam, Madras 600 035. India.
Ph. : +91 44 434 0520/4163/4538
mail : brkATnospamcri.co.in
"Experience is being able to recognize your mistakes when you make them
Again."
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 12:51:19 +0000
From: Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: The truth will out
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At 22:22 30/11/97 +0100, you wrote:
>Teresa wrote:
>>
>> Here, here. There is must too much negative energy being spent on this.
>> Please, let's just get back to the topic of kundalini.
>> Teresa
>
>Gloria here:
> This happens every time the cycle dips in the ebb and flow, just notice
>the illusion and pull up and out of it. This is when the ego and
>personality is stronger, instead of just falling into it...when you
>catch yourself in the lower self responce, step back and observe. You
>don't have to feed it. Gloria
Seconded.
To be honest I find both Dieter's and Ruth's positions too extreme to be
useful for me at this point. Obviously they find them useful themselves,
but I'm always wary whenever anyone appears to be suggesting that there is
a One True Path. Kundalini gives us a much richer range of choices than
either/or, surely?
Which is not to say that the frank exchange of views hasn't been
interesting or enlightening, of course. :-)
Richard
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 23:56:54 +1100
From: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: The 'I'
Message-ID: <01BCFEBF.27C28780.d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu>
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason S. White [SMTP:zymphtATnospambluewin.ch]
Just a few things for the night:)
j: You can talk
hormones, quantum physics and other facts until you're blue in the face,
but at some point you will reach non-linearity, irrationality.
D: no what we reach is into intuition. Intuition is not irrational. It is
the pinnacled height of knowledge. Spiritual knowledge is never irrational
- rather it is the undercurrent of everything.
j: For example, what is the boundary between Pure Spiritual Awareness and
normal awareness? When can we say we have crossed it? It's not a
question that has a precise, logical answer.
d: maybe so, but it is capable of being looked at and so human beings will
do precisely that if so inclined. In future there will be many
'intuitional scientists' in the university of tantra or whatever doing
precisely this. The future is glorious. In any case, I'd be inclined to
consider that a very good sweet approach can be taken to looking at this
phenomenon and understanding it.
j: Trying to explain the mystery with our
hard-found facts is a reaction to the fear that we are not in control
and that we don't know everything.
d: one need not fear anything in this universe even if we are not in
control. All fear is mental. But there is no fear of pain or pleasure if
soul alone is there. Cn fear generate love?
dieter
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 00:57:18 +1100
From: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: Mini or Maxi (Kotex or Tampax)
Message-ID: <01BCFEBF.29662560.d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu>
-----Original Message-----
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us [SMTP:amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us]
You implied all sorts of things about Ruth, and how her
preference for long sessions must mean that she is into abortion, etc.
[Dd>] OK I sincerely apologise for that. Better to admit these mistakes
now than let them hang around. Sorry Ruth. Can I be forgiven?
I would be
interested to hear from your wife as to how she experiences you. Does she
have any idea you feel this way?
[Dd>] This presumes I do feel the particular way you are implying - which
I'm not sure what that is exactly you're saying. Primarily, we enjoy each
other very much and have done so for a long time. She's just not into the
email - pottery being a better pursuit (and she's no doubt right about
that). And a lot of passion goes into that as well.
so seriously that you think your health is in danger if you give your wives
or
girlfriends too much "affection."
[Dd>] Affection, can be expressed in multifarious ways. The bedroom is
only one component. You know I've known couples who also feel aloneness,
even while holding hands in bed. Not an aloneness with each other but with
the universe. But their love does not die - life is not any easy thing -
and even sex cannot solve that. Some people try to hide these things and
will never discuss them. Where is the affection in doing that. Affection
is a much deeper thing than touch - it is an intuitive togertheness - this
resonance of minds can bring tears of joy to one's eyes. Even in dream
affections can be expressed. It all depends on what level you want to work
on. They say that tears of happiness flow from the outer parts of the eyes
and tears of sadness from the inner parts.
And doesn't it depend on what is Love. How many of us go to sleep at night
with the feeling of love for the Divine of God - that my personal
relationship with God is giving Him/Her immense sweetness and God/dess is
also in Her/His collective relationship taking care of all. Is that not
Affection also. I wonder how many of us discuss these affections with our
partners - and indeed if such sharings are ever the same as the Affection
itself. This Affection far surpasses everything. And even our most
beloved relationships will pass because that Affection demands that it does
- so who can control that Affection. Everything is in the Lap of the Gods.
Even in dreams He/She comes to express Affection - an understanding of that
Affection between partners can occur, but because the relationship is you
with the Creator and the other person's is that person with the Creator, it
would seem to me that the real Affection is that internal relationship and
other affections are a type of service to our close ones - but can it
ultimately beat the One Affection. And which is the more important? And
so what is Affection again?
Can't we all just get along? ;-)
[Dd>] most surely.
[Dd>] dieter
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 08:38:02 -0600 (CST)
From: Pam Myers <pmyersATnospammail.coin.missouri.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: The 'I'
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On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Dieter Dambiec wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason S. White [SMTP:zymphtATnospambluewin.ch]
> D: no what we reach is into intuition. Intuition is not irrational. It is
> the pinnacled height of knowledge. Spiritual knowledge is never irrational
> - rather it is the undercurrent of everything.
When person A's intutition differs from person B's intuition on the same
matter-how can the "truth" be known?
Pam
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 08:45:49 -0600 (CST)
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)
To: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: bodily fluids
Message-Id: <199712011445.IAA22615ATnospamdfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com>
You wrote:
> They say that tears of happiness flow from the outer parts of the
eyes
>and tears of sadness from the inner parts.
At last! Since my kawake, I've been puzzled by why the copious tears I
shed during bliss don't make my eyes swell up the way my tears during
sadness and grief do. Now you've given me at least a visual image (no
pun intended). And since we on the list have been discussing
reproductive fluids, I wonder if there is some kind of chemical change
there, too? And what about spit? Thanks! Holly
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 12:33:17 -0500
From: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospamresearch1.bryant.edu>
To: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com,
"kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: The 'I'
Message-ID: <3482F4DC.2CEBATnospamacad.bryant.edu>
Indeed. Even the great Hatha Yoga classics (Hatha Yoga Pradipika and
Siva Samhita) clearly state that the awakened Kundalini "binds a fool
but leads to liberation for the wise). When the sage sits quietly, still
and serene, and has no more desires and expectations, the Shakti rises
spontaneously and merges with the Source of the I. Then arises the
Supreme State of Joy and Completion, devoid of doubt or thought, being
the pure state of Self-Existent Effulgence which is Consciousness
itself, which relies on nothing but is the foundation and the underlying
substance for the whole cosmos.
Dieter Dambiec wrote:.....
> It is that which much be achieved. The awakening of the kundalinii is a
> movement towards that alone - pure consciousness. People get sidetracked..........
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 12:54:54 -0500
From: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospamresearch1.bryant.edu>
To: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Defending Dieter (was Mini or Maxi)
Message-ID: <3482F9EE.6EDDATnospamacad.bryant.edu>
It is easy to have misunderstandings on e-mail. I was in silence and
came back to the list after the thanksgiving break. I have been smiling
reading various messages. Be at ease and at at peace. God bless you all
with everything that is best in life.
PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 97-11-29 15:26:14 EST, Anita writes:
>
> << just have to admit that I have, temporarily at least,
> put you in the "Men Who Think Women Are Icky" category. >>
>
> Please let Dieter out of this box. I am a woman who has been generously
> helped by very kind and well thought out private emails from Dieter, who
> would never have wasted his time had he thought I was "icky."
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 09:24:19 -0800 (PST)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com>
Cc: Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: 2nd chakra--Negative not necessarily bad
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At 10:57 PM 11/30/97 -0800, ori^ wrote:
>Dieter wrote....
>>"Also, note that the second chakra has 6 propensities - disdain, stupor,
>>over-indulgence, distrust, fear of annihilation, pitilessness.
>I thought I'd share a little from the Numerology books.
>
>The thought process was explained as follows:
>in a given situation the 2nd body will evaluate all that could go wrong,
>"Your negative mind helps you give form to the creativity of your
>soul body by giving you the gifts of containment, form, and discernment.
>It also instills in you a longing to belong,
This also reminds me of one othe the traits (a problem one at times) of NDE
folks:
> 2. boundaries, rules and limits seem irrelevant, the usual cautions
and >abilities of discernment fade
>
It was someone's 'me too' response to someone's else's post that they had
been 'betrayed' by a close friend that led me to post that list of traits.
It may be due to this lack of discernment. This 2nd chakra trait is very
necessary and helpful and we can get beaten up without it. You describe it
very well. Thanks.
M
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 13:21:57 -0500
From: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospamresearch1.bryant.edu>
To: Radhakrishnan B <brkATnospamcri.co.in>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Off Topic: Advaita
Message-ID: <34830045.54B3ATnospamacad.bryant.edu>
The best known modern exponent of the philosophy of Advaita Vedanta is
Ramana Maharishi, the Sage of Arunachala. He went to the sacred hill
when he was 17 and stayed there for more than half a century. He
answered questions on Vedanta and other philosophical systems from all
comers. The philosophy of Advaita Vedanta is given practical application
through self-enquiry, meditation and Yoga. Sri Ramana emphasized the
system of Self-Enquiry while expressing some support for the techniques
of meditation and yoga and pranayama. Non-dual and Absolute
Consciousness is realized only in Kevala Nirvikalpa Samadhi. Beyond that
there is Sahaj Samadhi only, which describes the realization of the Sage
for whom Non-dual consciousness has become natural and Divine communion
is continuous (unbroken by any other state of consciousness including
deep sleep, dream sleep or Superconscious states of any type).
Radhakrishnan B wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I am interested in knowing more about Advaitha (the concept of One
> force). Sorry if this is bit out of topic. can any one link me to some
> URLs.
>
> With Regards,
>
> B.Radhakrishnan
> CRI India [P] Ltd.,
> 2nd Flr, Temple Towers,
> Nandanam, Madras 600 035. India.
> Ph. : +91 44 434 0520/4163/4538
> mail : brkATnospamcri.co.in
>
> "Experience is being able to recognize your mistakes when you make them
> Again."
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 12:30:00 -0500 (EST)
From: SchrLLATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The 'I'
Message-ID: <971201120159_1306808018ATnospammrin52.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 97-12-01 09:16:02 EST, you write:
> j: For example, what is the boundary between Pure Spiritual Awareness and
> normal awareness? When can we say we have crossed it? It's not a
> question that has a precise, logical answer.
ATnospam->->--, the rose here,
It has been my experience that the boundary you speak of separates different
realities. One reality is in physical space and time. The other reality is
non-physical, timeless and spaceless where all is One. I can say that I know
when I cross over because I perceive in a totally different way and feel
totally different.
The I that is me is aware that I am perceiving within a Oneness and that I am
part of It and totally loved. It's Awesome! That is my experience.
Love and Light, Linda
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