1997/11/30 09:28
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #775
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 775
Today's Topics:
Re: Mini or Maxi (Kotex or Tampax) [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Detachment again [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: Multi-orgasmic [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: Mini or Maxi -take ya pick! [ turtleATnospamici.net (Turtle Woman) ]
Defending Dieter (was Mini or Maxi) [ PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Mini or Maxi (Kotex or Tampax) [ "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch ]
office signs and others [ M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> ]
Re: Mini or Maxi (Kotex or Tampax) [ "I K Buckingham" <siestaATnospamihug.co.nz ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Alin Dragomir <alinATnospamgameover.kappa. ]
Re: Mini or Maxi -take ya pick! [ "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net ]
fractals [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #771 [ Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> ]
Multi-orgasms.. [ Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> ]
Re: Strengthening the aura [ dcondreaATnospampcnet.pcnet.ro (Blizzard) ]
Re: Strengthening the aura [ "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch ]
RE: Urddhvareta/menopause [ Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.c ]
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 14:11:39 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Mini or Maxi (Kotex or Tampax)
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Dear Dieter, Ruth, Freda, Denise, Blythe and the rest of the list:
I feel compelled to stick my big old fat face in here. Dieter's post did
concern me a bit. And let me say right up front that my opinion is very
colored by the horror that was my first marriage. My husband of the time
thought that too much "lower chakra activity" (to euphemize) was what
caused his father to be in poor health. (Gee, wonder if it was the
alcoholism? Nah! That couldn't be it).
Therefore he considered sex a necessary, but to be avoided if possible,
evil. (Didn't know this before I married him, obviously, stupidity and the
need to escape my family of origin, blah blah blah). And since that was
pretty much "all I was good for" (other than the cooking and cleaning), it
meant that unless he had "that" in mind, he did not even care to give me a
hug. I nearly died (literally) from lack of affection until I had children
who I in turn nearly smothered with my need to be close to someone. (We've
all had therapy now, thank you). He also found women in general to be kind
of "icky". This also led to when "it" did happen, "it" was over as quickly
as possible. He had to limit his exposure TIME (there's that word again,
Dieter!) to the toxicity that was femaleness. (Note to unauthorized readers
of this email: hope you're enjoying this :P).
So, Dieter.... I sense a similar attitude toward women in you. Especially
in how you have responded to those of us of the female persuasion when we
disagree with you. You implied all sorts of things about Ruth, and how her
preference for long sessions must mean that she is into abortion, etc.
Rather mean-spirited. Must be all that Testosterone you are hanging onto.
Except for the "excess" which you "drain off" by doing "it" with your wife,
as if you are emptying the excess of your bladder. When I read this post on
your sexuality, I thought "OH, now I get the Dieter gestalt." My mind
remains open, but I just have to admit that I have, temporarily at least,
put you in the "Men Who Think Women Are Icky" category. I would be
interested to hear from your wife as to how she experiences you. Does she
have any idea you feel this way? That she is a "waster" of your life force,
on the one hand, and a receptacle for your "excess secretions" on the
other, that is. <engage sarcasm mode> How that must boost her self esteem!
<disengage sarcasm mode>
Ruth, thanks for pointing out that one doesn't *have* to "waste" one's
essence (if that is the way one chooses to see it) even in long sessions,
thereby pointing out to the men on the list that they can have their cake
and eat it too, so to speak :).
Freda, I also agree with you that it doesn't *always* have to last forever
to be fun.
Denise and Blythe, thanks for asking some very interesting questions. I
wonder if Dieter has any answers for you?
And to the rest of the men on the list I hope you don't take Dieter so
seriously that you think your health is in danger if you give your wives or
girlfriends too much "affection." There is even a time for excess! (And I'm
*not* talking about self-destructive sex addicts who do grievous harm to
others as well as to themselves.) A little excess now and then, (even a
little celibacy now and then), for most of us, helps us define what our
boundaries are.
Can't we all just get along? ;-)
amckeon
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 14:11:48 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Detachment again
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Hello!
I must share with you the experience I had on Thanksgiving this year. Don't
know if I have the right words (like that's stopped me in the past!), but
here goes:
I was sitting at the dining room table with my mother and one of my sisters
when the subject of another sister came up. I stated that I would no longer
participate in supporting her emotionally dishonest and self-destructive
lifestyle by "going along" and pretending everything is ok (while my
stomach churns and I feel a choking sensation in my throat). My mother
began packing my bags in preparation for a long guilt trip, wanting me to
remain part of the undifferentiated co-dependent glob that is my family of
origin. Something in me snapped, and a tumble of words spewed forth from my
mouth that I seemed to have no control over, like Tourette's Syndrome or
something. Perhaps it was truth demanding to be heard. There was a pressure
and a heat, but not the uncomfortable, fiery anger that I have felt in the
past. Well, Mom was shocked, taken aback, etc. I could tell she was hurt. I
was not sorry for telling the truth, but I was sorry for my inability to
express myself better. I put my arm around her and immediately apologized,
without even thinking, something I had never done before. Usually I hang on
to my self-righteousness and pride for awhile, until things get blown all
out of proportion, etc.
I felt this detached, peaceful sort of love for her, and though tears came
to my eyes, I felt little pain, very new to me. Who would have thought I
could do this with my mother, the source of so many intense emotions?! I
now understand how one can be loving and detached at the same time.
gobble gobble,
amckeon
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 14:11:51 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Multi-orgasmic
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Jason S. White wrote:
>So true. I never realized how much can be learned just by the act of
>expressing yourself on a public forum. It is a great opportunity to see
>your current state, your reactions and the reactions (or non-reactions)
>of others to you.
>
I too have learned a lot about myself from this list. Not always stuf I
*wanted* to know... :0.
>For me, I have been able to give voice to a way of expression that I
>don't normally use in day-to-day interactions with people.
Tell me about it! I spend 40 hours a week with a large group of people who
are totally uninterested in discussing anything beyond 2d reality, and the
dullest corners of 2d reality, at that.
<snip>
>I've learned the importance of not babbling
>about kundalini, yoga, energy, love, lightness and darkness, etc. to
>people who are not ready to hear it.
Learned some painful lessons about this, myself. I finally made myself a
sign that I hung in my office that says "Think before you speak."
> It takes creativity to only talk
>about these things indirectly. But such a grand and mysterious vision
>is impossible *not* to talk about in some way or another.
>
Yes! Which is one of the reasons why this list is so important to me. I
have a lot to learn, and a lot to express (valid or not, wise or not,
entertaining or not). Muzzling myself *all* the time takes more energy than
I possess.
>So thanks to the list for yet another way of making life... well...
>multi-orgasmic.
That goes double for me.
sincerely,
amckeon
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 15:06:57 -0400
From: turtleATnospamici.net (Turtle Woman)
To: "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Mini or Maxi -take ya pick!
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Have you read ESO????? Abook called Extended Sexual Orgasm. I read it
back in the seventies or early eighties I don't remember the author, it
deals with the male and the female aspects of this topic you are
discussing.
\----/ love and hugs,
<(------|=> Turtle Woman
/----\ "those who know me think i am beautiful, those who
don't, don't know me!!!!!" (jcazemiro)
http://www.ici.net/customers/turtle
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Feeling. She waits in the bridal chamber for her own true love whos name
>is desire.
>Desire travels afar. He will do anything for his own true love who's name
>is feeling.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
And today the great Yertle, that }{ "Always be ready to help a turtle
Marvelous he,Is King of the Mud. }{ in need, you"ll never know when it
That is all he can see.And the turtles,}{ is your turn to get under-foot"
of course... all the turtles are free }{ DonaldB2
As turtles and, maybe, all creatures }{
should be. }{
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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 16:06:47 -0500 (EST)
From: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Defending Dieter (was Mini or Maxi)
Message-ID: <971129160646_1814161014ATnospammrin47>
In a message dated 97-11-29 15:26:14 EST, Anita writes:
<< just have to admit that I have, temporarily at least,
put you in the "Men Who Think Women Are Icky" category. >>
Please let Dieter out of this box. I am a woman who has been generously
helped by very kind and well thought out private emails from Dieter, who
would never have wasted his time had he thought I was "icky." It hurts me
everytime I read attack thoughts coming from list members to each other. We
are dicussing very big and controversial issues on this list, and active
debate is wonderful. But remember, we are debating the concepts and
opinions, not individual personalities or circumstances.
The subject of sex is always such a powderkeg for discussion anyway,
especially since kundalini movement can affect it so dramatically. One of
the side effects when I had my spontaneous kundalini activation was that my
sex drive shut down cold for awhile. Very, very scary. But guess who got me
through it? People on this list. I got very thoughtful and loving help from
a woman who is a frequent target for criticism on this list and who would
probably scare the feces out of me if I ran into her on the sidewalk, one
Angelique, AKA Serpent. And guess who else offered elegant and sage advice
to help me to understanding? Gloria, AKA Church Lady.
We can all help each other while never telling another person he or she is
wrong. We are so fortunate.
Peg
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 22:57:20 +0100
From: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Mini or Maxi (Kotex or Tampax)
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amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us wrote:
>
> Dear Dieter, Ruth, Freda, Denise, Blythe and the rest of the list:
>
> I feel compelled to stick my big old fat face in here. Dieter's post did
>
<snip wonderful synopsis>
> And to the rest of the men on the list I hope you don't take Dieter so
> seriously that you think your health is in danger if you give your wives or
> girlfriends too much "affection." There is even a time for excess! (And I'm
> *not* talking about self-destructive sex addicts who do grievous harm to
> others as well as to themselves.) A little excess now and then, (even a
> little celibacy now and then), for most of us, helps us define what our
> boundaries are.
>
> Can't we all just get along? ;-)
> amckeon
LOL! What wonderful perspective you have. It is easy to get dragged
into the boys against the girls game, and words like yours help us all
to just get along.
Men and women love each other with almost irresistable, unintended
attraction. That fearful lack of control induces hurtful words and
actions unless there is sufficient detachment.
Men and women have a different approach to many things like knowledge,
spirituality, relationships, etc. It is not that either men or women
are doing it wrong, but that our expectations of one another get
disappointed so easily that can be a sticking point.
So don't feel harassed by the opposite sex. And if you do, don't blame
them and lash out. That just tends to make the situation escalate. A
sense of humor helps to relieve the tension. Sensitive, respectful
observation of our different ways and means is a stong foundation.
Love and honor to women and men.
Jason.
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 15:50:28 -0800 (PST)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: office signs and others
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At 02:11 PM 11/29/97 -0600, amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us wrote:
>>people who are not ready to hear it.
>
>Learned some painful lessons about this, myself. I finally made myself a
>sign that I hung in my office that says "Think before you speak."
>
Mine says "You have the right to remain silent. Please consider it."
I also married a "man who thought women were icky" and am also in education...
I get that twins separated a birth, twilight zone kinda thing feeling...
what's your sign?
M
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 12:47:41 +1300
From: "I K Buckingham" <siestaATnospamihug.co.nz>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Mini or Maxi (Kotex or Tampax)
Message-ID: <199711301247410830.003998BBATnospamsmtp.ihug.co.nz>
*********** REPLY PARTITION ***********
On 29/11/97, at 02:11, amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us wrote:
>Dear Dieter, Ruth, Freda, Denise, Blythe and the rest of the list:
>
>I feel compelled to stick my big old fat face in here. Dieter's post did
>concern me a bit.
>And to the rest of the men on the list I hope you don't take Dieter so
>seriously that you think your health is in danger if you give your wives or
>girlfriends too much "affection." There is even a time for excess! (And I'm
>*not* talking about self-destructive sex addicts who do grievous harm to
>others as well as to themselves.) A little excess now and then, (even a
>little celibacy now and then), for most of us, helps us define what our
>boundaries are.
>
>Can't we all just get along? ;-)
>amckeon
Thankyou. My thoughts as well. Being a `mere male' it is only at the urinals of life that I believe there is a difference!! Are we not yin and yang, good and bad, love and hate, male and female. Is it not when this internal balance is out of step that we react and possibly destroy.
Bless you
ShortyB
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 15:55:26 -1000 (HST)
From: Alin Dragomir <alinATnospamgameover.kappa.ro>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199711300155.PAA08673ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
I found in a french book called "La Source Noire" references about an american (Monroe),
who had a K.A. and dedicated his life to study it from an engineer's point of view.
He found out that a 4 Hz sound could induce an out-of-body experience, and
because the sound was kind of hard to reproduce, used a difference of to higher frequency sounds.
What can you tell me about this or any other "scientifically" (more or less) methods to encourage K.A.?
P.S.: I developed a very self-controlled mind, and I think I could adjust easily my way of life, if a had a K.A.
I didn't stick to one method alone, because none seemed efficient to me, making links between them and finding out
that, in parts, some were better. I came to the conclusion that the best way is each one own's way.
When I concentrate enough, I fill like I'm almost out of my body, I'm almost there, but I never seem to make it. Therefor
I seek someone who could help me with it just once.
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 23:26:19 -0500
From: "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net>
To: "Turtle Woman" <turtleATnospamici.net>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Mini or Maxi -take ya pick!
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Thanks for the reference. I did a search for the book at amazon, and came up
with "ESO: How You and Your Lover Can Give Each Other Hours of Extended Sexual Orgasm" by Alan P. Brauer & Donna Brauer, and i ordered
it. From the synopsis of the book they had there, it sounds excellent.
The book on female sexuality i had referred to in my previous post is "Healing
Love Through the Tao: Cultivating Female Sexual Energy" by Mantak Chia &
Maneewan Chia...(also available through Amazon).
Rick
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 23:39:41 -0500
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: fractals
Message-Id: <199711300450.XAA10968ATnospamhoboken>
Hi,
For those of you who are interested in fractals, I have posted a new
gallery on my website. Gallery IX features the Golden Mean and other
Pythagorean Sacred Geometry fractals. Be warned though, that k-active
people may have strange reactions to these particular images. :-)
These reactions range from 3rd Eye energy fluctuations, to "spontaneous"
meditation, and in some people disorientation, with a number of stops in
between. Some k-actives feel as if they are actually inside, or even
beyond the fractal.
The site also has a new homepage Fractalscape---a picture I call "Merkaba."
Two new original fractal MIDIs have been added, too.
Later on tonight (I hope) there will be a new wallpaper page.
Sharon
shawebbATnospamyhc.edu
A new fractal gallery was posted to this site on November 29th, '97:
http://home1.gte.net/itriazon/Sharon.htm
USA Today Hot Site; Cosmic Site of the Night: Cool Central Site of the Day;
ENC Digital Dozen for June '97; Enchantment Award; ArtSearch Featured Site;
NetTech NeatTech: Best of the Web in Educational Technology; Eye Candy
Honorable Mention
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 08:38:12 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: THOMAS SMITH <TDVW36AATnospamprodigy.com>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #771
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Hi Tom: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
That is the address. I keep it in my addres book and when I have to send
something I just write"Kundalini" which is my nickname and the address is
posted automatically. When you first became a member Mystress sent you
some information...save that somewhere.. in case you need to unsubscribe.
Good luck, Ruth
*****
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 08:36:09 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au>
cc: "'fredaATnospamblarg.net'" <fredaATnospamblarg.net>,
"'kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Multi-orgasms..
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Dear Freda and Dieter:
It is often true when one writes on email, one can misunderstand and be
misunderstood. I have found it sort of goes with the territory.. having no
other signals to go by but words on a page.. and in my screen.. pretty
small words at that.
So I think that some of you have not understood what I wrote about the
possibility of having cosmic intercourse by usingthe sexual energy instead
of wasting it. If you Freda experience both.. this is the best of all
worlds and I have no "narrow" opinion on what you are doing. Lucky you.
I merely feel that so many women I know suffer horribly from men who are
not aware of the power they have to create a wonderful union with their
partners. In MY experience, I have rarely ever found an American who has a
clue about this power. I have found men from other countries almost all
seem to know about it... and treat this behavior as the "norm"....I just
decided that I would give you Dieter something else to think about and
maybe, just maybe open up your consciousness to something other than
worrying about how many times you have had sex in a week.
Many people have written to me to get the name of the book.. and thanks to
Rick... the author's name is now given me.
Mantak Chia.. "The MultiOrgasmic Male"...I read it at my friend's house.
She is a tantric goddess living in Maui. It is her business to teach men
this.
> > [Dd>] Ms Trimble, Love is not dependent on time and if you have not
> realised that what in the *foreplay* are you trying to achieve from the
> reading of the voluminous books on the 3 hr orgasm - are these read in
> between those small moments where contemplation is possible.
DUH! I don't read books about life Dieter.. I live it. You might be
surprised how much contemplation it takes to achieve a 3 hour orgasm...and
how much awareness comes through it. How could one read about this unless
one were looking? When I first knew about this in the 70's...there were
no books about it except perhaps in India in Hindi. Actually I had orgasms
then that lasted over 2 days... fortunately I was a grad. student and did
not lose my job...!ATnospam# Ha aha... the modern day sadhu..ecstasy in the west.
Why are you so resistant to this idea? Fear? Challenge? Hmmm.
*****
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:08:18
From: dcondreaATnospampcnet.pcnet.ro (Blizzard)
To: oriATnospameskimo.com, Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Strengthening the aura
Message-ID: <21ATnospamdcondrea.pcnet.ro>
Hi,
I'm Codrin from Romania. I have some things to say about.
In Yoga tradition are only 5 bodies called KOSHA(cover) in sanskrit
and all cover Supreme Spirit, ATMAN :
1. ANNAMAYA KOSHA physical body
2. PRANAMAYA KOSHA subtle,vital body
3. MANOMAYA KOSHA body of senses
4. VIJNANAMAYA KOSH inteligence, will
5. ANANDAMAYA KOSHA happiness
So somewere it's someting wrong!
>The 10 bodies are:
> 1st-- Soul body
> 2nd-- Negative Mind
> 3rd-- Positive Mind
> 4th-- Neutral Mind
> 5th-- Physical body
> 6th-- Arc line
> 7th-- Aura
> 8th-- Pranic body
> 9th-- Subtle body
>10th-- ("One-Plus" body) Radiant Body
>11th embodiment-- The Command Center; the Guru: spiritual excellence
>
>(Just an aside about protection--I wonder if this is what various
> protection rituals are in part doing is fortifying the aura...)
Yes, practice diffrent forms of pranayama, all kind. This will
fortify pranamaya kosha who's reponsable with all vital function
of physical body and also it's what you see when make a picture of
your aura. (Kirilian picture).
Hope will help this.
***Tip: read traditional yoga book and you will learn from there
many interesting things.
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 13:15:25 +0100
From: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
To: Blizzard <dcondreaATnospampcnet.pcnet.ro>
CC: oriATnospameskimo.com, Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Strengthening the aura
Message-ID: <348158DD.CFECA64ATnospambluewin.ch>
In Siddha Yoga there are only 4 bodies:
Gross, subtle, causal and supracausal.
But I don't think there is anything wrong or any single correct System.
There are infinite ways to look at the same thing. We are infinite
bodied, it is just that there are some major bodies that concern the
seeker.
For example, look at a perfect cube. It has at least 3 major bodies:
1. Looking directly a one flat face it looks like a square.
2. Looking directly at one corner it looks like a pyramid.
3. Looking directly at intersection of 2 faces it looks like a tent.
And there are infinite possibilities between those extremes. To impose
a certain configuration or geometry on the soul is to limit ourselves to
the confines of our imagination.
Jason.
Blizzard wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm Codrin from Romania. I have some things to say about.
>
> In Yoga tradition are only 5 bodies called KOSHA(cover) in sanskrit
> and all cover Supreme Spirit, ATMAN :
> 1. ANNAMAYA KOSHA physical body
> 2. PRANAMAYA KOSHA subtle,vital body
> 3. MANOMAYA KOSHA body of senses
> 4. VIJNANAMAYA KOSH inteligence, will
> 5. ANANDAMAYA KOSHA happiness
>
> So somewere it's someting wrong!
>
> >The 10 bodies are:
> > 1st-- Soul body
> > 2nd-- Negative Mind
> > 3rd-- Positive Mind
> > 4th-- Neutral Mind
> > 5th-- Physical body
> > 6th-- Arc line
> > 7th-- Aura
> > 8th-- Pranic body
> > 9th-- Subtle body
> >10th-- ("One-Plus" body) Radiant Body
> >11th embodiment-- The Command Center; the Guru: spiritual excellence
> >
>
> >(Just an aside about protection--I wonder if this is what various
> > protection rituals are in part doing is fortifying the aura...)
>
> Yes, practice diffrent forms of pranayama, all kind. This will
> fortify pranamaya kosha who's reponsable with all vital function
> of physical body and also it's what you see when make a picture of
> your aura. (Kirilian picture).
>
> Hope will help this.
> ***Tip: read traditional yoga book and you will learn from there
> many interesting things.
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 16:44:10 +1100
From: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au>
To: "'Blythe'" <merlinATnospampnn.com>
Cc: "'kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: Urddhvareta/menopause
Message-ID: <01BCFDEF.8AA03EE0.d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu>
-----Original Message-----
From: Blythe [SMTP:merlinATnospampnn.com]
my question concerns women after menopause, when ova are not
ripening anymore, and sexual secretions are close to nil. How, then, the
effects of sexuality on the transformation lymph to other fluids?
Blythe
[Dd>]
I would gather that what is fundamentally important is the production of
lymph. In this regard, it would appear not to matter that there is no
conversion or usage in relation to ova (or spermatozoa - males). Although
by no means any kind of authority in this area - I hope to get some advice
from medical friends who also have a good understanding of glandular
structure, chakras and the like. Many books are somewhat vague on this -
referring to 'spiritual essence' etc - but this terminology must be related
also to lymph. It would also appear that medicial opinion is not entirely
consistent either.
In short, if there is no ripening of ova or sexual secretions it matters
little to spiritual welfare. The same would apply to males, ie if semen
cum spermatozoa is not regularly created then it matters little. What is
important is the health of the lymphatic system of the body and its related
fluids and how that is related to mind and healthy glands which in turn
relate to healthy psychic/mental condition and therefore to spiritual
awareness and spiritual growth. It is when the lymph is depleted and
disease resistance is low that physical and mental health deteriorates.
This may affect the psychic structure of the human being if the related
propensities related to those chakras and the ability to maintain balance
in the psychic structure and the chakras is affected.
In this regard, the fact that in males semen is produced but not expelled
is not necessarily a good thing as Ms Trimble claims. Indeed the question
of excess semen production in the first place is the critical issue - and
whether it be expelled externally or somehow retained internally (in Ms
Trimbles school of though) during intercourse is equally deleterious. In
either case, it would appear that some spiritual essence has been converted
into a more crudified form when in fact that essence and lymph could have
been more usefully used as food for the brain and the healthy maintenance
of glands and the overall impact this has on the psychic condition of human
beings and related spiritual awareness and growth.
So the more restraint then the better it is and the less sexual desires the
better as well. That leads to ability to develop other aspects of life and
human expression at higher levels, greater compassion, depth, and other
abilities, etc. The greatest urge being to know the self in the sense that
one's unit soul is and always was the same as the Supreme Soul - except
that the sugar coating of the I-feeling and ego delineates our recognition
of this.
Also, note that the second chakra has 6 propensities - disdain, stupor,
over-indulgence, distrust, fear of annihilation, pitilessness. The
propensities (vrtiis in sanskrit) of over-indulgence and fear of
annihilation would be related to sexual urges and imbalance in this area
causes imbalance in relation to other propensities and imbalance in human
expression (eg distrust and lack of mercy).
Hopefully my medical friends can expand on this further, soon.
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