1997/11/28 09:15
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #771
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 771
Today's Topics:
Re: Urddhvareta/website [ Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospamkeynes.bryant ]
Re: The thinker feels [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
bird name [ Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com> ]
Strengthening the aura [ ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com> ]
Re: Strengthening the aura [ Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamdragontree.com> ]
RE: Urddhvareta/website [ Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.c ]
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 08:02:58 -0800
From: Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospamkeynes.bryant.edu>
To: fredaATnospamblarg.net
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Urddhvareta/website
Message-ID: <347D99B2.1B5FATnospamkeynes.bryant.edu>
Freda, Thanks for giving the address of the website on which the
kundalini paper is. Although the address has appeared several times on
the list, I am still getting requests for the URL which is puzzling.
Ruth Trimble wrote me yesterday for it. I am responding to your message
with a copy to the K-list as it contains the web address. Thanks Freda
for responding promptly.
freda wrote:
>
> A copy of Harsh's paper can be found here:
> http://www.blarg.net/~freda/(c)/hm/harsh.htm
>
> >Dear Harsh... Please give us a URL or more information to find this. I
> >would dearly love a copy... thanks, Ruth
>
> >>sleep and sexual conduct all further facilitate the movement of the
> >>Kundalini. Because understanding the nature of sexual energies is
> >>critical in Kundalini Yoga, I have devoted considerable attention to
> >>that in my paper on Tantra Yoga now available on the Kundalini Mailing
> >>list and other web sites. Serious and advanced students of Kundalini
> >>Yoga may find the paper to be helpful.
> >>Harsh
>
> Freda ~ BE-IS-AM
> http://www.blarg.net/~freda/01rg/hm/frhm.htm
> ICQ # 4323543
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 11:00:19 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The thinker feels
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Daniel James Giszczak wrote:
> I know a man who seemed disagreeable to me often. He hurt me a
>little, and I just looked at him with the hurt in my eyes. I said
>nothing. He looked back at me and said almost immediately "I am not a
>jerk." Every time I've seen him since, he has been happy and nice.
> Dan
I like that story! There is no doubt that this can work with some people.
You were obviously dealing with someone with a well-developed conscience
who actually cares that he had hurt someone. Even if it was that he mostly
cared how he felt about himself. Most of us don't want to feel like we are
a jerk.
On the other hand, I have seen someone *smile* with triumph when they see
the hurt in my eyes. I have also experienced anger at the suggestion that
they may have done something wrong. How dare I make them feel guilty? There
has also been disgust, as in "what a wimp you are, I talk to all of my
employees/friends/family like that!" There a few people I still trust with
my emotions, pretty much only my husband and children.
Thanks for sharing your story, it gives me hope.
sincerely,
amckeon
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:57:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com>
To: oreaATnospampop.erols.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: bird name
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>Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:52:46
>To: wolfATnospammedfordnet.com
>From: Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com>
>Subject: bird name
>
>As far back as I can remember, even back in the first house when I was
small enough to crouch under the grapevine by the garage and be completely
hidden, there's been one bird song that has defined the experience of
evening afterglow, long shadows stretched across the land, luminous sky, peace.
>I've heard that call in Minnesota. I've heard it in the taiga in northern
Canada. I've heard it floating through day's end in Colorado, gilding the
clear,thin air. I hear it here, now and again, drifting through the Doug
firs, across mown fields. I've never known who sang that song. Now I do.
It's the song of the Swainson's thrush.
>I feel incredibly blessed to have a name for these beings who have shared
beauty with me.
>Love,
>blythe
>
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 20:47:40 -0800
From: ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com>
To: Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Strengthening the aura
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Hello List Members,
I've been involved since September in a kundalini yoga class focusing on
"Awakening the ten bodies" system as taught by Yogi Bhajan. Each week's
yoga set was designed specifically to work with one of the various bodies:
The 10 bodies are:
1st-- Soul body
2nd-- Negative Mind
3rd-- Positive Mind
4th-- Neutral Mind
5th-- Physical body
6th-- Arc line
7th-- Aura
8th-- Pranic body
9th-- Subtle body
10th-- ("One-Plus" body) Radiant Body
11th embodiment-- The Command Center; the Guru: spiritual excellence
The 1st 7 bodies correspond to the 7 chakras. A system of numerology
based on birthdate helps one to identify personal chart numbers for
soul, mastery/karma, gift, knowledge/destiny, and path. This can give
one an idea of which bodies/chakras may need to be strengthened, also
which ones are our strong points. There are specific yoga kriyas/postures
and meditations which benefit a particular body.
A couple weeks ago we did the yoga set for the 7th body--the aura.
7 is my mastery/karma number. I see now how well this system describes
this part of my path I have worked on without knowing. The aura is the
container for the life force. A strong aura both contains the life energy
as well as "protects" one from taking in the energy of others.
A weak aura lets too much in and doesn't contain enough.
(Just an aside about protection--I wonder if this is what various
protection rituals are in part doing is fortifying the aura...)
Apparently I have some real work to do with the aura because during
the yoga set I had a profound release of energy and broke into a
deep and ancient sobbing. Something shifted that night 2 1/2 weeks
ago and I've been in a deep transformative process. I had been on a
real energy high most of the summer, and suddenly it became time to
deepen with that and sleep more again. It was almost like something
broke... and I haven't gone back to the yoga class since then.
I think I was "set up" by the universe that week anyway. It was no
mistake that I had gone to yoga practice Sunday morning and we did a
"strengthening the aura set"; and Monday night was the 7th body set
which repeated and added to the Sunday set. Thursday night meditation
class repeated part of the same series yet again.
During the meditation class I was watching myself get upset with the
teacher for setting me up to do the aura sets a 3rd time in one week
(as if she had planned it...) It was an interesting place to be
shifted into observer mode. It is as if I am needing to reassure my
body that the aura work will enhance, not detract from what it has
been able to do for all these centuries. With a weak aura I have
tended to contain energies within my body. Strengthening the aura
means that my body will be freed up for work it is better suited for.
But it has been like tending to a small child or wild animal and working
to gain its trust.
I am finding yoga to be more far-reaching and profound than I ever
dreamed it might be. It is so much more than another form of stretching
the physical body. I had started in Kundalini Meditation last February.
At the time I wanted to take yoga too but didn't feel physically ready
or able. When I talked with the teacher about this she suggested waiting
until my body asked for yoga. At the time this seemed like an odd statement,
but I felt a sense of relief... and just focused on the meditation. During
August I asked the teacher to explain more about the root, and other, locks
and shortly after had a strong sense to sit in on a yoga class. I felt
like I'd found an old familiar friend.
It will be interesting to see how I move through this aura piece...
and where it leads me from here.
ori^ oriATnospameskimo.com ICQ: 2918880
http://www.eskimo.com/~ori/ori.html
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 04:54:31 -0800
From: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamdragontree.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Strengthening the aura
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Thank you very much for this post.
At 08:47 PM 11/27/97 -0800, you wrote:
>I've been involved since September in a kundalini yoga class focusing on
>"Awakening the ten bodies" system
Rajneesh's /Psychology of the Esoteric/ has good descriptions of some of
these 'bodies' too. Might be a good supplement, as I think he comes from a
different angle.
/snip/
>A couple weeks ago we did the yoga set for the 7th body--the aura.
>7 is my mastery/karma number. I see now how well this system describes
>this part of my path I have worked on without knowing. The aura is the
>container for the life force. A strong aura both contains the life energy
>as well as "protects" one from taking in the energy of others.
>A weak aura lets too much in and doesn't contain enough.
>
>(Just an aside about protection--I wonder if this is what various
> protection rituals are in part doing is fortifying the aura...)
This is a big problem for me too. Could you tell a few of the postures etc
that are good for this?
/snip/
>With a weak aura I have
>tended to contain energies within my body. Strengthening the aura
>means that my body will be freed up for work it is better suited for.
>But it has been like tending to a small child or wild animal and working
>to gain its trust.
Me too. Could you tell more about this?
Namaste,
Mary
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 03:12:56 +1100
From: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: "'kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: Urddhvareta/website
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Frankly, sex is not a big deal - the inner motives for our actions is what
counts.
Of course, there is no use in denying anything - but that does not mean one
goes
around doing whatever one likes. Self-indulgence in sexual matters is even
more dangerous.
It is simply a matter of getting things in perspective and having the
practical means/processes of achieving the perspective.
Well, lets look at the practical side a bit. If the body becomes
deficient in sexual secretions (eg semen) due to wasteful external
discharge all the glands lose their vitality. It is the sexual secretions
and fluids (of which semen is the end result) which help the glands stay
strong and healthy. Some of the important glands need this more than
others, and therefore any deficiency is more detrimental to them due to
excess release of sexual secretions. The thyroid gland of the throat is
one such gland. Studies have also shown a link between postrate cancer and
excess sexual activity due to loss of vital sexual secretions needed for
maintenance of glands, that loss arising from excess sexual activity.
Internal organs can become weak through extreme self-indulgence of a sexual
nature. As a result of the attrition of important sexual secretions, the
body loses its vitality (skin colour can loose its luminence as well).
In fact the vital fluid ('shukra' in sanskrit) has three stages. In
males: lymph, spermatozoa and seminal fluid. In females: lymph, ova and
fluids released on sexual excitment or menstruation.
The lymph stage nourishes the brain and the glands. Lack of self-restraint
can cause too much lymph to be converted into the later stages, thus
depriving the brain and glands. So for good health the maintenance of lymph
is critical and which nourishes relevant glands which in turn are
associated with the requisite chakras which in turn are part of the psychic
structure of the human consciousness and that in turn is linked to spritual
development and awareness.
Therefore, too much loss of sexual secretions (at all stages of
development) makes the brain weak and memory short and courage and
spiritedness are lost.
Studies have shown that intellectuals usually indulge in far less sexual
activity than others because their minds are not stuck in the 2nd chakra.
This 'transcendence' of a type is perfectly natural.
For spiritual progress/thought/realisation preservation of sexual
secretions does need attention. Lymph and semen are necessary for the
nourishment of nerve cells and nerve fibres. Hence preservation of these is
essential for developing firmness of mind and intellectual sharpness.
Lymph is food for the brain and I believe is also related to good and
healthy blood. In the absence of
lymph, or in case of its impaired functioning, the entire constitution may
be impaired, the body may become susceptible to disease, and mental and
spiritual meditation/practices/ideation may be impaired.
The lymph forces through lymphatic vessels which run side by side with the
arteries. The glands through which lymphatic vessels pass are the lymphatic
glands. The function of the lymph is to purify the blood and maintain
beauty and glory of the body; and by getting into the glands it enables
proper secretion of hormones. For the proper development of innate
qualities adequate amount of lymph is necessary. The lymph rises up and
gets into the brain thus strengthening it. For the intellectuals adequate
amount of lymph is necessary. Deficiency or defect in the lymph cause some
diseases in the organ where deficiency has occurred.
>From my understanding the ectoplasmic particles of the unit mind are also
related to subtle sexual secretions and it is in the ectoplasm that
memories are stored and reactions to actions are dormant waiting to be
expressed as 'karma' or reactive momenta. The strength of the mind is lost
if there imbalance in sexual practices or they are outwardly only.
Therefore, restraint is a must for every man and woman interested in the
spiritual.
But of course sexual secretions may become excess/surplus. In the case of
males (non-indulgent type), this excess is either passed out with the urine
or expelled while dreaming. It is not at all abnormal to have a seminal
discharge three or four times a month. Of course if one does not think much
about sexual matters or lust then the build up of excess semen will not
arise - the body will only create that much as is needed for healthy
maintenance of its glandular structure and the required lymph that is
related to it will be in balance. In the case of married persons, excess
semen
can be released through sexual relations - but 3 or 4 times per month is
plenty enough otherwise there is improper wastage. That is, there
shouldn't be wastage of sexual secretions beyond the normal surplus.
Through meditation and spiritual practices the sex drive drops off
naturally anyway as higher thought and experience become more interesting
and useful. Higher sentiments are also inculcated and so it is not a
question of denial of sexual activity at all but simply that it assumes
less importance - in fact people are seen as people and as equals and this
becomes paramount.
If there is no excess sexual secretions then the lower propensities don't
actually get that excited (if at all) and so naturally the mind is led to
towards the higher propensites (eg thoughfulness, hope as around the 4th
chakra - people with developed tendencies in this area will tend to have
less thought on sexual proclivities) and also spiritual knowledge is
awakened and yearned for (ie ajina chakra).
People should not taint their sex lives by over-indulgence - there is less
Love and humanity in it - it is merely an addiction. Sexual secretions
retained internally within the body/glandular structure are vital to the
body, and if absent or somehow impaired or wasted, all the elements of the
body may become impaired and invite attacks of various diseases. Such
wastage can culminate in debility of the nerve-cells, nerve fibres, glands,
etc. People may become aware of this physical debility caused by
immoderate loss slowly over time (even belatedly), but as for the mental
and spiritual loss it can be felt right away, ie someone who puts a lot of
time into intellectual/creative or spiritual pursuits and then decides to
sexually indulge all over the place will feel a loss of these faculties
fairly readily. By these faculties it is meant proper
intellectual/creative pursuits and not crudifying habits.
Overindulgence in sexual experience I don't think is good for spiritually
inclined/humanitarian persons. In any case sexual experience is nice but
the nicety also depends entirely on the mental thought processes as well.
Otherwise is it just rape in the bedroom?
Fundamentally there is nothing difficult in being celibate (ie if one wants
to be a monk/nun - rather than a married person) because it is all a matter
of good health, good sentient food, good outlook, good exercise and yogic
postures (one can easily transcend base sexual proclivities through proper
simple yogic postures and diet) and spiritual practices/outlook. But if
one is in
a marriage/committed relationship sexual activity is fine but it shouldn't
be overindulgent. Overindulgence leads to decline in the strength of the
glandular and nervous structure, loss of good thought processes and loss of
inculculation of higher sentiments and Divine feeling.
Fasting is useful to keep balance because as a result, the poisonous and
unproductive waste of the body gets destroyed and expelled. It also
balances out any excess production of spermatozoa/semen which is normally
not needed in any case.
The women the situation is not much different to the above other than it
involves lymph, ova and sexual secretions of a different type to males
(obviously)
Essentially, the sexual matter/balance thing has a lot to do with plain old
good physical health. Mentally, though, as in everything, it is wise to
develop good thoughts, respect, compassion, care, etc. And in this regard
I fail to see how a man could treat a woman (and vice versa) as a mere sex
object. Animal instincts are one thing but humans are not animals and
don't live by instinct - we live out of respect and compassion (and even
our intellectual arguments are only designed to make us think more
carefully :). Higher inner motives are the best. Naturally given our
animal origins there will be a bit of that coming out - but it is simply a
matter of not leading your outlook or life by those instincts alone.
As celibacy - well I don't have anything against people
being celibate but I don't think it works very well unless they also have a
deep compassion for humanity and in fact dedicate their life to serving
that humanity or to a noble Ideal - otherwise as a closeted spiritualist
naturally they will get frustrated and their mind become imbalanced. S/he
that runs to the cave for enlightenment will never step outside of it from
fear of confronting their own tendencies (meaning they ain't transcended
anything) and will be a total loss to human culture - this is not fair to
anyone. The need for celibacy really only arises in the case of those
aspiring to be monks/nuns who wish to dedicate their all to service in
humanity. There are many who have done this and lead well contented and
fruitful lives - it is an admiration to behold.
And in any case whether married or monkish - it is actually quite a nice
feeling not to be bothered with thos organs down in the second chakra area
-
but to be not bothered requires channelisation to higher thoughts/ideals.
It is not a question of mere suppression or denial. Good (vegetarian)
diet, exercise, yogic postures and practical meditation are all vital -
otherwise nothing practical is achieved. In all this there is, of course,
the need for method - method is practicality not mere
wishful thinking - a bit of science goes a long way (including
intuitional/spiritual/meditation sciences - practically applied in day to
day life:/
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