1997/11/25 22:29
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #768
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 768
Today's Topics:
The Ever-Neverlasting [ "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch ]
Re: The Ever-Neverlasting [ valerian <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> ]
Tenure [ iri <iriATnospamivyrealty.com> ]
Thankyou--fear and trembling melinda [ STARNYCATnospamaol.com ]
Deja Vu, Our Friend [ ROBERTO GONZALES DEL VALLE GONZALES ]
In Touch With Eternity! [ ROBERTO GONZALES DEL VALLE GONZALES ]
Life [ Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin. ]
[Fwd: Re: 48 Hours -Skeptic HEaven] [ Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospamkeynes.bryant ]
Fwd: Another perspective [ LH5110ATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Urddhvareta [ Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospamkeynes.bryant ]
Re: Urddhvareta - Better than Chocol [ Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> ]
Re: Urddhvareta [ Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> ]
Re: Urddhvareta/website [ freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net> ]
Fwd: 48 Hours -Skeptic HEaven [ LH5110ATnospamaol.com ]
Base of skull [ LH5110ATnospamaol.com ]
RE: coming out of the closet [ M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> ]
Re:Chocolaate ritual. . . [ Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com> ]
RE: coming out of the closet [ Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com> ]
Re: Fw: Enjoy . . . [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:24:17 +0100
From: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: The Ever-Neverlasting
Message-ID: <347B4201.F195A160ATnospambluewin.ch>
Here's an unimportant blah blah.
In the instant of knowing
perception propels me
to its opposite.
Contrasting means make only blur blur.
Vision's tears swirl unbound
in seeking to congeal
the formless sound.
I must be dumber than a dodo.
Extinctive instinct
distracts me down
to show me all I think.
Amidst the clamour a truthful moment.
Its waves of washing
glance through my eye
to the ever-neverlasting.
Zympht.
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 14:02:44 -0800
From: valerian <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
CC: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: The Ever-Neverlasting
Message-ID: <347B4B01.6A59ATnospamptialaska.net>
<snip excellent blah-blah>
> Amidst the clamour a truthful moment.
> Its waves of washing
> glance through my eye
> to the ever-neverlasting.
>
> Zympht.
*bravo! <clap-clap-clap-clap-clap! (a 5 star clap!)>*
excellent punctuation of facts!
may i link it on my webpage if i credit you?
:)
v
--
*we now return you to your regularly scheduled programs...*
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7982/index.html
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 13:51:14 -0800
From: iri <iriATnospamivyrealty.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Tenure
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>Subject: Why God never received tenure...
>
>1. He had only one major publication.
>2. It was in Hebrew.
>3. It had no references.
>4. It wasn't published in a refereed journal.
>5. Some even doubt he wrote it by himself.
>6. It may be true that he created the world, but what has he
> done since then?
>7. His cooperative efforts have been quite limited.
>8. The scientific community has had a hard time replicating
> his results.
>9. He never applied to the ethics board for permission to
> use human subjects.
>10. When one experiment went awry he tried to cover it by
> drowning his subjects.
>11. When subjects didn't behave as predicted, he deleted
> them from the sample.
>12. He rarely came to class, just told students to read the
> book.
>13. Some say he had his son teach the class.
>14. He expelled his first two students for learning.
>15. Although there were only 10 requirements, most of his
> students failed his tests.
>16. His office hours were infrequent and usually held on a
> mountain top.
>17. No record of working well with colleagues.
>------------------------------------------------
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 17:38:19 -0500 (EST)
From: STARNYCATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Thankyou--fear and trembling melinda
Message-ID: <971125173818_-2141678893ATnospammrin45.mail.aol.com>
Dear Blessed creatures,
Thank all of you for helping me last week. I felt totally isolated.
Last night I went into a bliss state of universal love for the first time
after weeks of anguish--and awoke with mild bliss and energy--I have been
unable to work, teaching at the University, or write--but now finished a
review for my theatre web site--and am going to London for Thanksgiving--and
have hope again and patience--
When I come back I will enter the "I" colloquoy. My physical
symptoms are becoming more meaninful--and I feel that the outer and inner
visions both being created by my mind--am still ontologically confused--but
the love is flowing again from my heart--which I send to all of you--
with much gratitude,
melinda
starnycATnospamaol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:48:38 -0500
From: ROBERTO GONZALES DEL VALLE GONZALES <930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe>
To: "'kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Deja Vu, Our Friend
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Greeting everyone!
This is about everyones deja vu experiences. But especially for
Rachid, whose letter caught me and gave me a good sense. Love to all of
you. You are all beautiful!
>
Well, the same thing happens to me. It is a wondefull
gift. Some people keep on telling me that deja vu in s phemomenom in
which, for an unidentified cause, long term memory and short term memory
in our brains get mixed. But i think they don´t understand it.
The thing is, if you go on in this path your deja vues
will keep on repeating in a circle utill something big happens and
changes a whole lot. Sometimes you will even know that one especif deja
vu will repeat itself. It´s life mirror, always for the good, showing to
you in it´s ondulant, sensual and even sarcastic way.Life a a smile, and
sometimes a giggle. Isn´t it?
Roberto.
Lima-Perú.
rgvgATnospamhotmail.com
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:23:12 -0500
From: ROBERTO GONZALES DEL VALLE GONZALES <930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe>
To: "'kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: In Touch With Eternity!
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Greeting everyone!
I´ve just read an e-mail from wonderfull Flute and had to write
this down.
It is my believe that we are all just vehicles for one mayor
goal that englobes all, and all of us.
There´s a new book about the research of a sweden antropologist
whose name is Jeremy Narby tittled: "The cosmic snake", in which he
throws the hyphotesis that we are all in contact with everything and
everyone and all the energy and knowledge surrounding ourselves beacuse
of the DNA strings. Well, those strings look just like two serpents, one
oposite of another but totaly alike, bounded togeteher as in a double
string or an upgoing lader. Narby found that every culture in the world
has this image in their simbolism, even in places where you can not find
snakes! Such as Siberia or the highlands. Coincidence, I don´t think so.
Even in the ancient mexican languaje, the meaning for the
concepts snake and tween, are both contend in the word coatl (DNA
molecules look like two tween snakes one around the other in oposite
directions forever).
You can look at the yin-yang symbol the same way beeing seen
from the top.
The same kind of knwoledge and connection with all, with the
source, can be acomplished in this lifetime. There are several prophets
f diffrent believes who predicted that in the younger days, towards the
begging of a new order most of the people on earth would inherit this
kind of comprension, and experience this conection with the entire being
and with one another. Then we will all be free to act as we like beacuse
we will know that what we like is not bad and, in the deepest, we all
like the same. One world, one soul. One Goal!
My best wishes!
Roberto.
Lima- Perú.
rgvgATnospamhotmail.com
930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 18:00:05 -0500 (EST)
From: Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin.umich.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Life
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Life will forever be a maze of mirrors from which there is only one exit.
Dan
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 19:18:51 -0800
From: Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospamkeynes.bryant.edu>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: [Fwd: Re: 48 Hours -Skeptic HEaven]
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Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 07:05:52 -0800
From: Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospamkeynes.bryant.edu>
Reply-To: hlutharATnospamkeynes.bryant.edu
Organization: Bryant College
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To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
Subject: Re: 48 Hours -Skeptic HEaven
References: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.971124152058.5128A-100000ATnospamuhunix3> <347A7ADF.55CAATnospamkeynes.bryant.edu> <3479D685.EC8ATnospamintercomm.com>
Urdhava-Retas is a sanskrit term and refers to Yogis or saints whose
sexual energy always flows upwards towards the Crown or the brain
center. Due to regulation of their sexual conduct they are able to
receive full benefits of the awakened Kundalini, which includes
developing various tupes of intuitive and psychic abilities.
Harsh
Gloria Greco wrote:
>
> Harsh Luthar wrote:
> >
> > I think your teacher is absolutely correct. As I said before, visions
> > and superconscious states are natural and not inconsistent with the
> > spiritual path. However they are not relevant to attaining God
> > consciousness. It is not true that all great masters use psychic powers
> > to protect themselves. They do not consider the body to be the self.
> > Take the example of Jesus. His love for humanity was so great that he
> > refused to defend himself in any way saying only in the end that "Father
> > forgive them for what they do..." Great Sages know the past and the
> > future including the time of their physical departure.
>
> This is true, Gloria here:
> Harsh what to you know about urdhava-retas?
>
> Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
> Gloria Joy Greco
> e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
> http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
> &
> http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
> Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 19:44:47 -0500 (EST)
From: LH5110ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Fwd: Another perspective
Message-ID: <971125194446_-1974160189ATnospammrin39>
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Forwarded message:
From: hlutharATnospambryant1.bryant.edu (Harsh K. Luthar)
To: LH5110ATnospamAOL.COM
Date: 97-11-25 11:39:23 EST
What you say is very insightful. You should share with the whole list. I
am sure many would appreciate your thoughts.
Harsh
LH5110ATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
> "psychic" is again man's termonology and "label" which we must place on
> people. With any "powers" people hold instead of "giving" we are in a
time
> frame which everything must have a marketable value. Instead of teaching
> people to go within to their own inner knowledge and strength they seek and
> pay for someone to guess for them. This creates the marketplace for
the
> people who deal with generalities. Most spiritual power people will give
> away what the great spirit, God, or whatever the higher power you believe
in
> has given.
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 19:39:09 -0800
From: Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospamkeynes.bryant.edu>
To: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
CC: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>,
Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.com>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Urddhvareta
Message-ID: <347B99DD.44F8ATnospamkeynes.bryant.edu>
Self-Awareness, Meditation, and Pranayama cause the sensual energies to
start moving upwards towards the brain centers. Regulation of food,
sleep and sexual conduct all further facilitate the movement of the
Kundalini. Because understanding the nature of sexual energies is
critical in Kundalini Yoga, I have devoted considerable attention to
that in my paper on Tantra Yoga now available on the Kundalini Mailing
list and other web sites. Serious and advanced students of Kundalini
Yoga may find the paper to be helpful.
Harsh
Ruth Trimble wrote:
>
> Hi Gloria and Harsh:
> IT is when I read this list I find out so much of what I have learned in
> the past 18 years of seeking.
> Urddhvareta (please correct my spelling Hindi speakers) is the energy I
> experienced coming up from the sexual organs through the belly and up
> through the body. As it rose up, it bestowed intense orgasmic delight.
> I believe it to be the the ojas or light/life force in the ovaries which
> creates the egg in females or from the testes in men that creates the
> sperm and contains that vital force which creates a child when both are
> put together. Thus it is verily the LIFE force itself and in the
> urddhavreta it does not go down into biological function, but it slowly
> through practice and meditation and a lot of grace, moves up inwardly
> through the body. This is the state that ones sees in many sages from
> India whose eyes are rolled upward into the head I assume they
> experience this same bliss. I also believe from my experience that the
> ascent of this life ojas to the 3rd eye
> allows the soma juice to drip into the back of the tongue
> This is something that yogis yearn for.. and some have their tongue
> tethers cut so that the tongue may reach back behind the nose to taste the
> soma there...
> This is what I understand from my experience... what do others know of
> this?
> > This is true, Gloria here:
> > Harsh what to you know about urdhava-retas?
>
> Ruth
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:19:53 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: DonBBensonATnospamaol.com
cc: senATnospamcruzio.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Urddhvareta - Better than Chocolate!
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I did not put this title on here.. I am allergic to chocolate.. but not
to the K. Haha.
> Dear Ruth,
Dear Don: I loved your letter.. yummier than chocolate for the
chocoaholic!
> and right hemispheres of his brain. Besides the physical and mental shock of
> this awakening, which resulted in flunking out of college the next semester,
> he experienced another foretaste of the joys of heaven on this occasion.
I was in Grad. School when this happened to me and I actually did little
to no homework, meditated 4 - 5 hours a day, relied entirely on the K. and
managed to sweep the decks with all A's... I could read books by putting
my hand on them. It was totally fabulous to be so incredibly inspired and
creative. One presentation I made I had to demonstrate a teaching method
and I woke at 6 a.m and had to do it at 10 in front of the class... had
nothing prepared. I sat on the john ---instant inspiration** the daily
paper was in front of me...I would use this story to teach the class this
method. I had figured it all out instantly. I grabbed a
few materials, ran off to school, spent an hour in front of a computer and
copy machine and voila my presentation was done... and it turned out to be
the best of the lot!! Everyone else had studied and worried about it for
weeks.. I spent exactly 4 hours on it!
> Being created by God for fellowship with Him, I believe we have been given
> this physical kundalini capability so that we can be vessels of spiritual
> life and loving communication - vertically (with God and His holy angels) and
> horizontally (within our bodies and with each other).
Dear Don... THANK YOU FOR THESE MELIFLUOUS words that are more than
chocolate syrup... but all the divine essences! I am doing the vertical
and the horizontal.. and I am having so much fun... you would be amazed
how little the vertical knows about the horizontal.. well read
"Conversations with God " if you don't believe this. WE think they are so
smart.. but when it comes to 3D and what goes on here.. they are
guessing!! They know their realm.. but we know ours. Someone has to do
the interpreting... Here we are.. the K-ites! H aha...
> The k capability is a multi-purpose survival tool system designed into human
> beings. Its ultimate purpose is to establish and maintain an eternal loving
> relationship with the Source of life Who Is the Great I Am, Yahweh, so that
> we can "share in the first resurrection" (Revelation 20:6). Its immediate
> biological purpose is to give extra physical and mental power for survival.
>
OOOH.. More lovely words.. except... I have heard bad things about YAHWEH
who is supposed to be the dark lord who has been enslaving human beings
and is really a sort of mean and temperamental ET sort from Nibiru???
So I only think of God as the ultimate reality beneath all experience..
the root of consciousness if you will and not a character who dislikes
women and gets jealous and such. Sorry he is not on my list of worshipful
ones. He's the one who kicked us out of the Garden of EDen isn't he. May
be I read too much.
> (HarperPerennial, 1996). Teri Degler has written a valuable book on the
> subject of k experiences and inspired creativity entitled The Fiery Muse.
> Both authors are founding members of the Kundalini Research Network.
Thanks for the referral.. and the great words.
Ruth
*****
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:23:11 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospamkeynes.bryant.edu>
cc: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>,
Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.com>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Urddhvareta
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Dear Harsh... Please give us a URL or more information to find this. I
would dearly love a copy... thanks, Ruth
> sleep and sexual conduct all further facilitate the movement of the
> Kundalini. Because understanding the nature of sexual energies is
> critical in Kundalini Yoga, I have devoted considerable attention to
> that in my paper on Tantra Yoga now available on the Kundalini Mailing
> list and other web sites. Serious and advanced students of Kundalini
> Yoga may find the paper to be helpful.
> Harsh
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 17:42:07 -0800
From: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Urddhvareta/website
Message-ID: <347B7E6F.4B82ATnospamblarg.net>
A copy of Harsh's paper can be found here:
http://www.blarg.net/~freda/(c)/hm/harsh.htm
>Dear Harsh... Please give us a URL or more information to find this. I
>would dearly love a copy... thanks, Ruth
>>sleep and sexual conduct all further facilitate the movement of the
>>Kundalini. Because understanding the nature of sexual energies is
>>critical in Kundalini Yoga, I have devoted considerable attention to
>>that in my paper on Tantra Yoga now available on the Kundalini Mailing
>>list and other web sites. Serious and advanced students of Kundalini
>>Yoga may find the paper to be helpful.
>>Harsh
Freda ~ BE-IS-AM
http://www.blarg.net/~freda/01rg/hm/frhm.htm
ICQ # 4323543
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 21:32:40 -0500 (EST)
From: LH5110ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
cc: butterbean6ATnospamjuno.com
Subject: Fwd: 48 Hours -Skeptic HEaven
Message-ID: <971125213240_1660487597ATnospammrin86.mail.aol.com>
shouldn't you stop to wonder that possibly that persons psychic abilities did
warn him that there would be someone with a gun there, but the purpose of his
mission had to be performed even though there was "APPARENT" danger. If
God came down before you and told you something he wished you to do would you
refuse because your psychic abilities told you of danger or would you have
enough faith that the mission could be fulfilled without your harm????
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From: hlutharATnospamkeynes.bryant.edu (Harsh Luthar)
Reply-to: hlutharATnospamkeynes.bryant.edu
To: trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu (Ruth Trimble)
CC: msticklesATnospamantalys.com (Mike Stickles), kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Date: 97-11-25 01:53:06 EST
I think your teacher is absolutely correct. As I said before, visions
and superconscious states are natural and not inconsistent with the
spiritual path. However they are not relevant to attaining God
consciousness. It is not true that all great masters use psychic powers
to protect themselves. They do not consider the body to be the self.
Take the example of Jesus. His love for humanity was so great that he
refused to defend himself in any way saying only in the end that "Father
forgive them for what they do..." Great Sages know the past and the
future including the time of their physical departure. They do not act
in any way to hinder it considering it a triviality. Miracles do happen
spontaneously in the presence of such people but such things are not
intentional. They are in response to the faith of devotees. A focus on
Psychic powers and the craving for such experiences are normal for
novices. People have to go through various stages. God bless everyone
with all that is best in life.
Harsh
Ruth Trimble wrote:
>
> Dear Harsh.. I hope you are not so harsh as your name!
>
> > I think Mike offers an extremely insightful comment. Historically,
> > genuine spiritual personalities do not lay much emphasis on psychic
> > abilities and treat them for what they are; passing phenomena involving
> > engagement of subtle senses rather than gross senses. For one who has
seen
> > the image of God in his/her own heart, in the core of one's being, what
> > inclination would there be to set up shop doing psychic readings or any
> > other kind of readings. What glamor would exhibitionism hold. What
Psychic
> > powers would such a person exercise! What could such a person possibly do
> > except teach love, preach love and be love.
> Perhaps that in these abilities you are waking others to LOVE.. who knows?
> But I do not know how to do this unless on already loves on some cosmic
> level. Perhaps some can do that. I know I cannot.
>
> My teacher said that these powers were "gold bricks" on the road to
> enlightenment. If you stoop down to pick them up, you will be too heavily
> burdened to get on with your journey. In Hindi they are called siddhis. My
> guru had them without even knowing. Just in the exertion of his will, he
> created miracles, such as a tree branch due to fall on top of someone,
> that he averted and it fell to the side against the laws of gravity.
>
> I think it is about balance as in everything. If that is the sole focus of
> ones life, attaining these powers, then there is not really a spiritual
> goal in mind. I believe it can be part of a spiritual path as has been
> mentioned before. My own personal use of my psychic abilities,some of
> which I discovered only recently, has helped a few people including my
> own family. I do it with love and respect for their sovereignty and free
> will. I do not do it for everyone. I am also learning how to use it.
> I see it as a tool. It is useful and helps me be calm and clear about
> things I might otherwise be upset about. For example, I always know if
> something is going to happen to me or not the minute that I write it on my
> calendar! This means I am not disappointed when it does not happen. Over
> the years this ability has helped me learn to trust my intuition. I do
> feel that even the greatest saints would applaud the development of
> intuition.
> I remember a saying I heard: If the master is standing in
> front of a man with an automatic gun who wants to kill him, what would he
> do? Answer: Nothing. He would not be there in the first place.
>
> Surely this means that his psychic ability would have warned him that such
> an eventuality would be about to occur in a certain place and he would be
> automatically going elsewhere that day.
> This thread is very useful for me at this time.
> Thanks
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 21:45:50 -0500 (EST)
From: LH5110ATnospamaol.com
To: Kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
cc: butterbean6ATnospamjuno.com
Subject: Base of skull
Message-ID: <971125214549_1405658429ATnospammrin39>
Hello everyone!!!
A friend suggested that I write and see if any of you might have a suggestion
as to a feeling I have been experiencing lately. Well here goes...
at the base of the right side of my skull sometimes is very tender and
actually hurts. It is more like a throbbing sensation. Frequently down
that side of my neck also pains me. Any suggestions are welcome.
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 19:21:50 -0800 (PST)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: RE: coming out of the closet
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At 02:31 PM 11/24/97 -1000, Ruth Trimble wrote:
>What you say about not advertising if one is good is true.. but that may
>not be because of modesty, but of fear of getting the government or the
>crazies on your back. I have agreed to be in a short segment on TV with
>some of my friends called "Touched by an Angel" in which we talk about
>helping people like "angels". I have been helping people over the
>internet so they wanted to interview me about this... the show airs
>tonight and I am freaking out.. I hope no one sees it! I am scared to
>death. I know now what it means to come out of the closet!
>I am a closet healer! There... phew it feels good.
>Ruth
Ruth,
I'll bet it will be wonderful...let us know how it goes - including the
aftershocks. I wish you all the best...that means no government or crazies
on your back...just love and appreciation everywhere.
M
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 19:31:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com>
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re:Chocolaate ritual. . .
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This is apropo of nothing really...but...
Anyone wanna hear about how to do Oreo Cookie Divination? *grin* A bunch of
us tried it one evening. It's a great excuse for eating Oreos and calling it
spiritual practice, and laughing.
Blythe
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 19:41:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: coming out of the closet
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At 07:21 PM 11/25/97 -0800, you wrote:
>
>Ruth,
>
>I'll bet it will be wonderful...let us know how it goes - including the
>aftershocks. I wish you all the best...that means no government or crazies
>on your back...just love and appreciation everywhere.
>
>M
I'm with M... wishing you all the best and no government or crazies.
Blessings, only. OCming out of any closet can take chutspah.
B
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 23:15:23 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Fw: Enjoy . . .
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Debora Orf wrote:
>Has anyone read Suzette Hadin Elgon's work? especially "Earthsong"? Its
>sci-fi, she presents the idea of the earth's people slowly adapting
>themselves away from food by using 'audiosynthesis', triggerered by
>chanting, singing, musical activity.
Yes, I have read that book. It is the third part of a trilogy: "Native
Tongue," and "The Judas Rose" being the first two books. "Native Tongue"
was about a group of women who developed their own language based on the
way women think, in order to survive in the rigidly patriarchal society
they lived in. They pass coded messages to each other disguised as recipes.
I believe "The Judas Rose" was about learning to communicate with an alien
species. I entertained the audiosynthesis idea for a time... Singing to
certain tunes does make my head tingle, and my spirits rise, but quelling
hunger... Oh, if only!
I have also been to a Science Fiction convention and sat in a room with the
author during an interview. I even got to ask her a question! She is a very
focused person with intelligent eyes, very awake and aware.
>Who mentioned K activity keeping one looking young? i wonder myself if its
>more like the poster who mentioned 'turning into a wraith', you become how
>you see yourself inside.
That "wraith" was me. I feel most like myself when I look that way.
>My mother remarked the time before the last time i saw her that my hair
>seemed redder than usual. i have never coloured it red. And i'm pretty
>healthy, so its not from lacking minerals or vitamins. Altho i have
>changed my habits by going 99% vegetarian.
Very interesting. Do you feel or act more like a redhead these days? I have
three younger sisters with more gray hair than I have, one is even entirely
gray! It has been suggested that it is because although I am the oldest, I
often act the youngest. Silliness, wearing brightly colored clothes, buying
toys for myself, for example.
sincerely,
amckeon
(who's glad to know she's not the only Science Fiction fan on the list)
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