1997/11/19 15:16
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #756
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 756
Today's Topics:
Re: Primordial Cause - Purusa/Prakri [ Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.c ]
Re: Monksville or Bust [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
Re: Working with Spirit [ Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospamkeynes.bryant ]
Re: Monksville or Bust [ Lenny <L.J.CzermakATnospamherts.ac.uk> ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Donald.B.BensonATnospamaloha.net, Ph.D.ATnospamal ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Donald.B.BensonATnospamaloha.net, Ph.D.ATnospamal ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ Lenny <L.J.CzermakATnospamherts.ac.uk> ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ BedawnedATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Working with Spirit [ M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> ]
Spiritual Bypass was: Working with S [ M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> ]
flock of wild geese [ valerian <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> ]
Books [ dcondreaATnospampcnet.pcnet.ro (Blizzard) ]
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 20:08:43 +1100
From: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: "'kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Primordial Cause - Purusa/Prakriti
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> Dieter>the attainment or non-attainment of this power depends on Purusa or Citi-Shakti (Consciousness) [>] ...
Anandajyoti> The attainment or non attainment of this power is dependent on the individual's will, perseverance, practice, desire and will. It is not dependent neither on Purusha nor on Prakriti.
[>]
[>] Just need to clarify the context of your comment. The sense you are referring to is the microcosm and the verbs used are true in respect of the microcosm. But the original post dealt with the Macrocosmic Stance. So the context is different
[>] A: Prakriti , on the other hand is the Primordial Energy, is the fundamental cause of the material Universe.
[>] Here, I beg to differ (and see plain English after the ****** re from Creative Force/Prakriti to manifestation of Nature - although a slightly different topic nonetheless also explantive of this discussion)
[>] The metamorphosis of Purusa takes place due to the action of Prakrti. Although Prakrti goes on acting, she is not the material cause. She is also not the efficient cause, because behind her action, there is no 'ethical pursuit'. Force is a crude energy and clearly in the expressed universe there is not creation by blind force alone - there is the operation of the Law of Cause and Effect. Ideatic impression of the Witnessing Entity/Purusa/Supreme Consciousness is the material and efficient cause, but it is also associated with Prakrti. It does not enjoy the fruit, yet it remains associated with the Prakrti. Without the wish of Purusa, Prakrti is not able to assume any manifested form. That is why the fundamental cause of the universe is not Prakrti but Purusa.
Perhaps some of the confusion arises because in the discussion to date there has not been made a philosophical distinction between Nirguna Brahma (Non-Attributional Cosmic Consciousness) and Saguna Brahma (Attributional Cosmic Consciousness). As to that matter see the post originally sent regarding the fallacy of the Big Bang theory as the cause of creation. The reason why this is worth a mention is because it could be said that greater than Saguna Brahma is the unmanifest primordial Prakrti (unmanifest in the sense that the Operative Principle in equilibrium) for 'she' contains within 'her' the capacity to qualify Saguna Brahma; that is the qualification of Saguna Brahma is entirely dependent on her attributional manifestations. But Nirguna Brahma being non-attributional must, of course, be beyond that. That is, Purus'a is still superior to this primordial Prakrti. Purus'a is the ultimate stage of all evolved objects: He is the supreme rank of Consciousness.
****************
There must logically be a force which creates different kinds in
Nature - just as a force moves anything. It is on account of this Cosmic
Force that the existence of human beings and animals, plants and matter -
everything- is appreciated WITHIN the Eternal, Infinite and Perfect
Omniscient God. Nature is then witnessed. The Creative Cosmic Force
cannot act without His/Her/God's "permission". It is not a blind force
otherwise the universe would never have hung together. It's cohesivenss is
the Law of Cause and Effect (in that sense it also has a fundamental
'morality'). It is because of this Law that we are able to discern
scientific patterns in everything and derive some systematic knowledge of
our own in explaining the universe. That Law is in a sense 'binary', ie
cause = 0, effect = 1 and so on and so forth. Hence the polarities in
this creation (Nth - Sth, etc). [But if one goes far enough north one may
again reach south - so everything comes home to its Universal Nucleus].
However, given the
> vastness of the universe and the innumerable patterns of cause and
effect and their complexity - we see dynamic events of chaos - the fractal
kaledioscope.
>
> The Cosmic Force is not equivalent to Nature. Indeed Nature is the
inherent characteristic of the Cosmic Force. Whatever that Cosmic Force
does is commonly known as Nature. The Cosmic Force simply expresses its
dextrous dance on the infinite ocean of Universal Consciousness - and so
everything is happening within the Universal Consciousness (God) with Its/His/Her own
permission. God is the all-knowing entity and the entity that witnesses
whatever the Cosmic Force does. That force displays itself as Nature. The
Universal Cosmic Consciousness becomes circumscribed or shared into the
knowledge of existence as a result of the "permission" It has given to the
Creative Force. When the Consciousness becomes bound by name and shape it
naturally appears to be different from its original standard and so this
differentiation is the Nature of the expressed universe.
>
> God is the orginal cause of everything and when the Creative Force is
dormant there is no vibration whatsoever (there is only 'ananda'). But the
original cause is beyond time, place/space and person/form/frequency and beyond
relativity - to trace back leads to infinite regress. To know the source
requiries transcendence of mind (transcendence of time, place and form).
One cannot know this through reasoning alone. It requires the intensity of
spiritual cum meditative practices.
In this respect your assertion 'dependent on the individual's will, perseverance, practice, desire and will' is certainly correct.
A: All phenomena are products of a Cause, Prakriti is uncaused. Products of phenomena are non-eternal, finite ; Prakriti is eternal and infinite.
[>]
[>] Here again the same issue arises as per the above. Much of the contentious issue is also explained in the Big Bang posting. But to assume that the Creative Force acts at whim is dangerous because it is energy which is controlled by Prakrti and the union to be achieved between small I and big I (unit consciousness and Cosmic Consciousness) is not with the Creative Force or Energy or Nature but with Cosmic Consciousness Itself. It is the difference between worshipping Kali and becoming Shiva.
Prakrti, being the innate principle of Purusa, is controlled and guided by Purusa. The actions are controlled by Prakrti, but Prakrti is controlled by Purusa. Hence Purusa should alone be and is the be-all and end-all- of human endeavour.
Prakriti is beyond such transformative changes.
Phenomena is dependent on Prakriti while Prakriti is independent of it.
[>] But also Prakrti cannot be independent of Purusa (they are 2 side of the same piece of paper) and the Creative Force requires the permission of Supreme Consciousness to act - otherwise there would not be the same piece of paper but a duality - and union can never be a duality.
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:04:06 -0600 (CST)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Monksville or Bust
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On Tue, 18 Nov 1997 PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com wrote:
> The essential thing seems to be integrating spirituality wherever you find
> yourself. It's probably easier within the safety of a spiritual community
> than at a cocktail party or on a crowded freeway. Maybe this is the
> warrior's path. One of my own most transcendent moments of joy, peace, and
> thankfulness came while I was cleaning up dog vomit! Maybe what Aaron is
> feeling, like me, is the longing for a teacher.
a good friend told me once when i was having a similar longing, 'dont
worry sincere aspiration opens the door to a profound teacher every time'.
He was right.
The wierd thing is that they do not conflict in what they say. In Tibetan
Buddhism, there is usually a 'root teacher' sometimes more than one. Its
wierd how things work out. They usually come from a direction least
expected too.
The period right before is a bummer though. i felt very alone in the
universe. Afraid to go forward for getting myself in a big mess.
i can understand wanting to be a monk tho, there are times the solitary
hermit life sounds good, my husband wouldnt like that idea tho :). Peace
and quiet and the noise of the universe's song. Can it be heard under the
electric lights in a tin can on a smog-infested freeway?
ok enuf rambling for a wednesday....
maitri,
--dao
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 11:36:25 -0500 (EST)
From: Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospamkeynes.bryant.edu>
To: Susanne Macrae <smacraeATnospamcamtech.net.au>
cc: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com,
kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Working with Spirit
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Food does play a critical role in our mental and physical health. For an
aspirant, alcohol, cigarerttes, and mind altering drugs may act like
poison. Certain drugs can prematurely release the Kundalini in some people
who are not prepared for it. This causes hidden anxieties, uncertainties
and fears from the unconscious mind to come to the surface. It becomes
difficult to understand and assimilate so much material from the
unconscious and hence causes suffering. The proper and the balanced
approach to spiritual life is to regulate (if one is so inclined) one's
relationship with food, sensuality and sleep and seek the company of other
spiritual people. The period of time one sits for meditation should be
increased gradually until one can retain the meditative mood in other
activities. Practicing in this way, unperturbed by visionary
experiences and indifferent to superconscious states, one safely reaches
the goal.
On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Susanne Macrae wrote:
>
> The main things I had to do in my life were give up alcohol, cigarettes,
> stop using chemicals for cleaning in the home, pay attention to my body
> and pay attention to what was happening to the planet, to the land.
> I needed to give up unsatisfying work and focus on finding employment
> that brought joy to my heart. This I found by working for myself and
> eventually starting a business.
>
> The "paying attention to my body" and listening to the Kundalini
> messages and tuning into the intuitive self were really the most
> important things.
>
> Love, sue
>
>
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:44:33 +0000 (GMT)
From: Lenny <L.J.CzermakATnospamherts.ac.uk>
To: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
cc: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Monksville or Bust
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Yes Deborah I was with you there. I've come in late on this thread
because reading your post opened it up for me.
For me it's the pain of getting along with other human beings. Some days
I just want out. Living in the inner city, London in my case, means being
subject to the hostility (fear) of others daily. Pushes my buttons every
time when of centre.
Summertime I get out of the town as much as possible. I like to go
camping, or as you say hiking, in the countryside. Last year I went to
Wales, which was so beautiful and serene at times, for 2 weeks. When I got
back to town I was depressed for a week: until I acclimatized again.
One year I seriously considered becoming a hermit, but I wouldn't last.
Truth is I only appreciate the peace of solitude because of the chaos
of society. Anyway society has its +++ as well as it --.
Lenny
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 07:08:03 -1000 (HST)
From: Donald.B.BensonATnospamaloha.net, Ph.D.ATnospamaloha.net,
"M.Div." <DonBBensonATnospamaol.com>
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1. Experienced kundalini awakening as "baptism with the Holy Spirit"
(Ref.Isaiah 44:3;Joel 2:28;Mt.3:ll;Mk.1:8;Lk.3:16;Acts2;etc.)
in January 1953 at age eight. Too awesome. Told no one: Biblical
understanding and guidance not available in family or local church;
did not want to fall into clutches of psychiatrists. Turned it off,
mostly forgot, retained gifts such as glossolalia (1Cor.12) but
secretly and without understanding.
2. Experienced classical kundalini awakening in December 1963 at age
nineteen, still without Scriptural understanding. However, an "older
brother" (Gopi Krishna) came "online" in the spirit and helped
guide me safely through the potentially disastrous aspects of the
experience. I was given an opportunity again at that time to live a
Spirit-filled Christian life in continual fellowship with the Lord Jesus
Christ. But, as a horny nineteen year old without faith or patience, I
chose to go my own way. Decades of painful consequences proved this was
a bad choice!
3. Attended 1979 World Symposium on Humanity in Toronto. Met kundalini
researcher Yvonne Kason, MD. (See Kason & Degler, A Farther Shore,
Harper Perennial, 1996.) Began to remember and attend to spiritual
realities.
4. In March 1981, after studying the alternatives, I confessed my
sins, turned from them, and asked Jesus Christ to be my Lord and Savior.
He led me to join a local church, and I have been active in daily Bible
study and prayer, regular worship and fellowship in a local church, and
Christian ministry ever since.
5. Here is my current perspective on "kundalini":
a. Kundalini is a normal function of the fact that "God created man in
His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He
created them." (Genesis 1:27) The seven-fold spiritual perfection of
God is reflected in the spiritual/physical body of man.
b. We are designed to live in perfect harmony with heaven and earth.
A fully and properly awakened "kundalini" is supposed to be our normal
means of maintaining (i) full and open communications both vertically and
horizontally, (ii) full healthy organic functioning, personally and
socially, and (iii) holiness on earth as in heaven.
c. Unfortunately, Adam & Eve let a fly (Beelzebub) get into the
ointment and spoil it. Stop. Download new metaphor: Now we are finding
the remnants of our kundalini mechanism lying in the junkyard.
d. There are some pretty good shade tree mechanics around to help us,
such as in my case Pandit Gopi Krishna and Dr. Yvonne Kason,
but doesn't it make the most sense to proceed under the guidance of
the original Designer and Manufacturer as spelled out in the Owner's
Manual? The Living Word (God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) and His
Written Word (the Holy Bible) are constantly available to help us.
6. How may I serve you?
7. Love and peace.
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 07:16:41 -1000 (HST)
From: Donald.B.BensonATnospamaloha.net, Ph.D.ATnospamaloha.net,
"M.Div." <DonBBensonATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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1. Experienced kundalini awakening as "baptism with the Holy Spirit"
(Ref.Isaiah 44:3;Joel 2:28;Mt.3:ll;Mk.1:8;Lk.3:16;Acts2;etc.)
in January 1953 at age eight. Too awesome. Told no one: Biblical
understanding and guidance not available in family or local church;
did not want to fall into clutches of psychiatrists. Turned it off,
mostly forgot, retained gifts such as glossolalia (1Cor.12) but
secretly and without understanding.
2. Experienced classical kundalini awakening in December 1963 at age
nineteen, still without Scriptural understanding. However, an "older
brother" (Gopi Krishna) came "online" in the spirit and helped
guide me safely through the potentially disastrous aspects of the
experience. I was given an opportunity again at that time to live a
Spirit-filled Christian life in continual fellowship with the Lord Jesus
Christ. But, as a horny nineteen year old without faith or patience, I
chose to go my own way. Decades of painful consequences proved this was
a bad choice!
3. Attended 1979 World Symposium on Humanity in Toronto. Met kundalini
researcher Yvonne Kason, MD. (See Kason & Degler, A Farther Shore,
Harper Perennial, 1996.) Began to remember and attend to spiritual
realities.
4. In March 1981, after studying the alternatives, I confessed my
sins, turned from them, and asked Jesus Christ to be my Lord and Savior.
He led me to join a local church, and I have been active in daily Bible
study and prayer, regular worship and fellowship in a local church, and
Christian ministry ever since.
5. Here is my current perspective on "kundalini":
a. Kundalini is a normal function of the fact that "God created man in
His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He
created them." (Genesis 1:27) The seven-fold spiritual perfection of
God is reflected in the spiritual/physical body of man.
b. We are designed to live in perfect harmony with heaven and earth.
A fully and properly awakened "kundalini" is supposed to be our normal
means of maintaining (i) full and open communications both vertically and
horizontally, (ii) full healthy organic functioning, personally and
socially, and (iii) holiness on earth as in heaven.
c. Unfortunately, Adam & Eve let a fly (Beelzebub) get into the
ointment and spoil it. Stop. Download new metaphor: Now we are finding
the remnants of our kundalini mechanism lying in the junkyard.
d. There are some pretty good shade tree mechanics around to help us,
such as in my case Pandit Gopi Krishna and Dr. Yvonne Kason,
but doesn't it make the most sense to proceed under the guidance of
the original Designer and Manufacturer as spelled out in the Owner's
Manual? The Living Word (God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) and His
Written Word (the Holy Bible) are constantly available to help us.
6. How may I serve you?
7. Love and peace.
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 17:40:45 +0000 (GMT)
From: Lenny <L.J.CzermakATnospamherts.ac.uk>
To: "Donald.B.BensonATnospamaloha.net, Ph.D.ATnospamaloha.net, \"M.Div.\"" <DonBBensonATnospamaol.com>
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>but doesn't it make the most sense to proceed under the guidance of
>the original Designer and Manufacturer as spelled out in the Owner's
>Manual? The Living Word (God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) and His
>Written Word (the Holy Bible) are constantly available to help us.
Well, in my case Donald, the Owner's Manual was a little light in the
"What To Do If:" section.
Lenny
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:25:06 -0500 (EST)
From: BedawnedATnospamaol.com
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Dear Don;
I appreciated your point of view in that my own kundalini awakening utilized
some of the metaphors of Christianity. Adam & Eve was a story particularly
meaningful.
<< c. Unfortunately, Adam & Eve let a fly (Beelzebub) get into the ointment
and spoil it. Stop. Download new metaphor: Now we are finding the remnants of
our kundalini mechanism lying in the junkyard. >>
Adam and Eve were innocents in the Garden. By innocents, I mean they did not
know good and evil. A state of innocence precludes one, precluded them, from
achieving a state of virtue. Innocence and virtue are not compatible states
of being. One can't be virtuous if one does not know a good choice from a
poor choice and all the ramifications therein. Preserving one's innocence
for the sake of claiming the "virtue" of innocence is an act of selfishness,
a refusal to learn. One's innocence then becomes a foolish naivety,
ignorance even.
Before my awakening, I was in a "garden" so to speak. A life sheltered from
knowing and understanding the beauty and terrible nature of God. For me,
kundalini was the serpent in my garden life. Adam and Eve were forbidden to
eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Genesis quotes God saying
that "man has become as one of us knowing good and evil." Can it be a bad
thing to aspire to become like God as Adam and Eve did when they partook of
the fruit? Knowing good and evil afforded them the opportunity to grow up,
to get out of the nursery, the world of their heavenly Parent's lap.
Kundalini gave me my walking papers from the "garden." And now I have the
strongest sense of God in my life that I would ever hope to achieve. Having
abandoned a state of innocence, the opportunity to practice virtue is ever
before me.
For my perspective, Adam and Eve made a heroic choice. One to be followed.
Thank you for giving me the chance to share this.
Melissa
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:33:27 -0800 (PST)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: Susanne Macrae <smacraeATnospamcamtech.net.au>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Working with Spirit
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sue,
This means so very much to me. I am stuck without role models or success
stories for the first time in decades and so appreciate knowing that someone
made it through this mess!!! and I really appreciat hearing how you did
it!!! I am much encouraged. Bless you.
M
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:34:05 -0800 (PST)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospamkeynes.bryant.edu>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Spiritual Bypass was: Working with Spirit
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At 11:36 AM 11/19/97 -0500, Harsh Luthar wrote:
>Food does play a critical role in our mental and physical health. For an
>aspirant, alcohol, cigarerttes, and mind altering drugs may act like
>poison. Certain drugs can prematurely release the Kundalini in some people
>who are not prepared for it. This causes hidden anxieties, uncertainties
>and fears from the unconscious mind to come to the surface. It becomes
>difficult to understand and assimilate so much material from the
>unconscious and hence causes suffering. The proper and the balanced
>approach to spiritual life is to regulate (if one is so inclined) one's
>relationship with food, sensuality and sleep and seek the company of other
>spiritual people. The period of time one sits for meditation should be
>increased gradually until one can retain the meditative mood in other
>activities. Practicing in this way, unperturbed by visionary
>experiences and indifferent to superconscious states, one safely reaches
>the goal.
Thank you for your input. I want to assure you that your advice has not
fallen on deaf ears here. I must tell you I neither smoke nor drink nor
clean my own house and I have been a vegetarian for over a decade now. My
use of drugs is limited to antibiotics and I believe even they should be
avoided as they were instrumental in creating my current physical condition.
I would say I am unperturbed by my visionary experiences. When K manifested
I gave up formal medtiation in hopes of calming it down and am now
rethinking that decision. I would say I do not have a goal but do want to
be healthy and fully functioning.
I do believe that maintaining the meditative mood in all activities is not
at all desirable and should not be recommended casually to one and all. I
did that for years and found it made me just too raw and tender for many
settings I had to be in. It made me bruise far too easily. Calluses were
then set up around the bruises, etc. A book I have read recently (Spiritual
Awakenings by Barbara Harris Whitfield) uses these phrases to describe
something similar:
spiritual bypass leading to premature transcendence or high-level
denial.
Because of my own experiences and observations I now would recommend that
all but the most experienced and secure (in lots of things!) meditators make
use of a closing routine much of the time - for their own best interests.
I would welcome discusion on this.
M
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:58:33 -0800
From: valerian <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: "Listening-lATnospamzrz.TU-Berlin.DE" <Listening-lATnospamzrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
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Subject: flock of wild geese
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I told Parks & Recreation that i would conduct a workshop helping
children make christmas ornaments from clam shells, & the paper came
out, & there I am on December - something coming up, conducting this
workshop, so i decided it was finally a good idea to begin the shopping
for clam shells in earnest.
It is a gorgeous day here; a rosy-golden alder brush against the
pondering pines day of some fluke el nino indian summer, & the beach was
dotted with the crystalline white *magic* rocks, along with the darker &
seaweed laden granite-like rocks & boulders.
I walked back by Whipple Creek, next to the woods, where the only sound
is that of the water rushing down from the mountainside, & I was struck
by that incanny presience that is *aware of the bears* but needs to mesh
with one's environment peaceably, so as not to put out an aura of
*fear*. it struck me how many times i had been totally alone in the
wilderness, at the mercy of the forces of Nature, with no one to hear
should i cry out, no way to defend myself if encountered by danger, & no
chance of escaping any natural predators should i encounter one, & found
i rather prefer it to feeling *safe*, like i could call upon someone to
help besides the forces of how I construe a benign & benevolant God of
my heart & creation (and not the one whom people keep thumping their
chests & demanding "...there is only *ONE TRUTH*, and it is all
mine!!!". indeed, i find it far preferable than to be exposed to the
danger's of man's own devisings; the automobiles, the poisons in the
waters & in the airs, & *unnatural predators* (aka as drunks).
with this shift of awareness the scenario became as reverential, & with
every church-like devotion, i would find a perfect clamshell! i was
finding shell after shell after shell, until i was all intent of
*finding the clamshells*...
then i became aware of an insisting barking, which i initially dismissed
as someone's dog on the island across the channel. suddenly, my
awareness shifted again, as i was mesmerized by the gentle lapping of
the waves on an almost glass water surface reflecting the blue sky, the
qualities of warmth & chill; Whom is this *Power* who dost summon the
winds to blow upon the mighty seas as such - then *insistant barking!
insistant barking! insistant barking!!!
my irritation turned to awe again when i realized that it was a flock of
wild geese just a dozen yards off across the creek, & as soon as my
awareness acknowledged that i recognized them, they all became silent,
feeding on the limpets & sealife just at the edges of the water.
they had been trying to get my attention! they were all talking to me!
it was *so cool*! they were sayin', "Hey! we're out here too getting a
bite of chow from your beach on our way by! beautiful day & thankyou!"
over & over & over until i noticed them! then they just strutted their
necks & waddled around together, occasionally glancing with *knowing
smiles* that only geese can give.
suddenly all this intellectual drivel on how we are never *alone* came
into context as the majestic entertwining of the realities of *all
creation*, not just humans & computers. both of which are but threads
within the tapestry which depicts that *one BIG TRUTH* that everyone
sees uniquely from their points of observation & past histories.
and that is my sermon for today!
v
--
"What do you get when you put OJ, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Mike Tyson in
the same room?
A butcher, a Laker and a license plate maker. "
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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 22:29:20
From: dcondreaATnospampcnet.pcnet.ro (Blizzard)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Books
Message-ID: <4ATnospamdcondrea.pcnet.ro>
Hello,
It's true this is not close to topics of the list but I really need
this books for my spiritual knowledge and I can't find it here in
Romania.
So, if you have one of this books and you already read it twice and
don't need it any more I'd like to buy it from you.
If you can help me send me a e-mail at dcondreaATnospampcnet.pcnet.ro
PLEASE!!!
Codrin
Doctrine of Recognition : A Translation of Pratyabhijnagrdayam
(Suny Series in Tantric Studies)
Ksemaraja / Paperback / Published 1990
Canon of the Shaivagama and the Kubjika : Trantras of the Western Kaula
Tradition (Shaiva Traditions of Kashmir)
Mark S. Dyczkowski / Paperback / Published 1987
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