1997/11/17 21:12
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #754
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 754
Today's Topics: Re: [K] Sore throat - chakra related [ "Kim Major" ]
Re: [K] Sore throat - chakra related [ anandajyoti ] Introduction [ "POOPATHY B. MUNIANDY" ]
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 16:26:07 PST From: "Kim Major"
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It's interesting that you should suggest that, Gloria, because I used to play the clarinet as a child and draw cartoons. Nowadays, I write (as I
did when young) for a living as a public relations professional and writing short stories, poetry and erotica on the side (for a creative
outlet). Perhaps I am feeling stifled in some way? And interesting still is that there are a LOT of photos of me (first born) as a child
with my right hand covering my throat even though I am left handed. Hmmmm.....thanks for all these insights, folks! :-)
Kim
From: Gloria Greco HeleniliusATnospamaol.com wrote:
I thought this an odd coincidence until I heard Carolyn > Myss (sp?) tape on "Anatomy of the Spirit," where she talks about the
throat > chakra as relating to a intimate communication with an individual
spirit >
> helen
Actually, that is a normal tendency in everyone and it is because that center is easily activated. It is your communication line to the world
around you inside and out, so it stands to reason that you would protect that very sensitive awareness inside.
Those who are in natural flow with the throat chakra are creative in
anything they do, and need expression of many kinds. Music, writing, dance, art, computer sharing like this, sing etc. It is very important
to find an expression for that creative drive so that it can develop in a balanced flow. Music is wonderful for this, learning an instrument,
writing music. Gloria
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From: anandajyoti To: Kim Major
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com Subject: Re: [K] Sore throat - chakra related?
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Kim Major wrote:
> Hello K people! :-)
> > I have been battling a sore throat for a week which I was sure meant I
> was coming down with a cold or flu. ........ I went to a nurse > practitioner and who prescribed an
> antibiotic (and it is helping). >
> I wonder though from a metaphysical standpoint if my sore throat isn't > not related to my stress level at work, my wonderful new boss who
> overloads me with work though, my spiritual growth and waning social > life (in part due to work). I'd appreciate any feedback about the
> throat chakra. I do not know much about them, particularly the one > dealing with the throat.
> Anandajyoti>
Hello Kim, I must admit , you have taken the correct approach with your cold and
throat. Spirotually it may indicate, that you need to speak your mind to you boss,
or people at work. But you have use your judicious discernment in the matter.
I n the east there is a famous saying: When something appears as a threat, like a snake,whom you don't know , in which way it would respond or react,
you take a stick to put it away, and you hit in such a way, that the stick you use in the process does not break, and the snake is rendered harmless
or non threatning to you , in any way. So, think and speak. Your stress will reduce to a workable and manageable
level, without causing undue harm to yourself.
In Love. Life and Light Anandajyoti
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
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From: Tom Bradley To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com"
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Hi, I'm changing jobs and am not yet sure whether there'll be internet connectivity in the next place I go to. When I can
I'll get back onto the list. It's been fun and interesting communicating with you. All the best,
Tom Date: Mon, 17 Nov 97 20:12:00 PST
From: "POOPATHY B. MUNIANDY" To: "'kundalini'"
Subject: Introduction Message-Id:
Self Name is Poopathy B. Muniandy from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
>>Self presently aged 34 years old, was born a Hindu. >>Self became aware of kundalini through books and have seen chakra charts
>>for a long time without knowing what they actually were. >>
>>Self was initiated into kundalini by a Guru on 1st January 1997. >>Upon initiation, self found sensation on the forehead and it has kept on
>>increasing. The sensation can be felt whenever self is in deep thought. >>
>>After the third initiation the sensation can also be felt on the top of >>self's head.
>>It feels like air movement sometimes but when in meditation the sensation >is
>>as if something hard is being pressed against the head. >>
>>Self is currently meditating half to one hour daily. >>
>>How has these changed self's life? >>Not sure! Self as yet to see any miracles.
>>But Self has been disturbed by a string of bad lucks and bad timings. >>It all came as if wave after wave of bad luck as if it won't stop and
>>as yet to stop. >>The Guru said these is good because self is working-off past
>>collected Karmas. Not sure if self is enjoying these. >>
>>Self would like to hear from other Kundalini participants who are willing >to
>>share their wisdom and insight on what they have experienced. >>These would assist me to know if self is doing the right thing and feeling
>>the right thing. >>
>>Self has also heard conflicting theories on the practice of Kundalini >>and would like to hear other participants views on these.
>>How many different type of methods are there any way? >>
>>Love to hear from you all, please drop me a note... >>
>>Thank you.. >>
>>Poopathy. >>
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 22:36:26 +1100 From: Dieter Dambiec
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" Subject: RE: Twin Flame
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Has anyone experienced this energy interaction of which I speak? Does this awareness have anything to do with kundalini?
[>] Nope. When something is present and you are getting its vibration but you want to see something different, this is a "positive hallucination". A positive hallucination means that what appears to exist does not actually exist. A "negative hallucination" is when something is present, yet you do not pick up its vibration. A negative hallucination means that what actually exists appears not to exist.
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:13:45 +1100 From: Dieter Dambiec
To: "genius-lATnospamnewciv.org" , "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com"
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Yesterday, I received the news, my friend from Israel told me:
I was at the beach with my children when my four-year-old
son ran up to me, grabbed my hand, and led me to the shore, where a sea gull lay dead in the sand. "Mommy, what happened
to him?" the little boy asked. "He died and went to Heaven," I replied.
My son thought a moment and then said, "And God
threw him back down?"
Oh, well, why not another.
Yogi to Guru: Master, please explain why it is that whenever I do headstand the blood rushes to my head, but when I stand
up normally the blood does not rush to my feet.
Guru to Yogi: That is because your feet are not empty. Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 07:07:11 PST
From: "Susan Carlson" To: NancyATnospamwtp.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Twin Flame
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Dear Nancy,
You wrote:
>I'm sure most everyone has heard of the concept "soul mates." This
>weekend I heard of a new concept called "twin flames." >
>From my understanding, twin flames are two souls who were "created" at >the same time. These two souls together form a perfect one.
I have heard of this also and have met people who met their twin flames
and heard of their experiences.
For me, it really was something I wasn't much interested in....only because I really believe all people are my soul mates....probably the
ones that i have the most difficult times with may be "more" of a soul mate than the one who just flows with me when i meet them. Only because
the difficult ones are a more truer reflection, a mirror of what still is to be healed in me...sharing the same wounds...how intimate can that
not be?
Also twin flames....arent we all created at the same time, from the same stuff...or even more so arent we all the Creator?
Maybe a window has opened for you to experience this in an ecstatic
way...being the Creator. Creation energies...copulation between energy and matter...then conception. I may be projecting my wishful
thinking...but who is not to say the Creator is not one big cosmic Orgasm. I have been told more than once that my spirit makes love with
other peoples spirits...i mean i have been seen doing the wild thing in the most public places in spirit form with someone else.
And without my conscious knowledge at least up till now. That is changing :-)
> >I think I have met my twin flame...yet I wonder if I'm just going off
>the deep end here. This man and I have been doing this strange energy >dance for the past 6 weeks. We don't really know each other we are just
>doing a project together. Yet I felt the first moment I saw him that I >knew him. I recognized his soul. It's as if I can see completely
through >his personality that he wears for the world straight through to his
>essence. Nothing is going on between us physically. Energetically, it's >like we're having sex.
Maybe this is what true intimacy between all souls will feel like
someday. Maybe you are being shown a glimpse of heaven. How fortunate you are.
) Has anyone experienced this energy interaction of >which I speak? Does this awareness have anything to do with kundalini?
Yes, this is magickal and I am having more and more of these energetic
interactions...not confined to just one...maybe everybody is my twin flame?
Kundalini makes the energy more intense...in my experience...brings more
consciousness into the exchange...speeds healing.
In my experiences...the energy begins to smooth out after awhile as the collision of the forces between you two will merge...to become an
experience of deep bliss and stillness.
And yet these are only my experiences.
many blessings for you,
Susan
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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:39:13 -0500 (EST) From: HeleniliusATnospamaol.com
To: NancyATnospamwtp.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Twin Flame
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I know exactly what you are talking about, and what in the world do you do with such an intense relationship?? I've never heard this called twin flame,
but it certainly through me for a loop. In my case, the individual says that I've always known him, and he talked to me about events of my life as if
they were shared memories...things from childhood even...as if he were more of an expert on me than me. The energy thing is the weirdest and most
intense ever any time i'm close to his proximity, which these days isn't often. I never know how to handle this relationship with respect to my
family (I've been married 8 years with 2 little girls), so I just don't see him anymore, although it was not a "physical" relationship at all...I think
we both thought this best for now. Is this like twin flame? I've never heard of the term.
peace be with you,
helen
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:20:56 -0800 (PST) From: takeuchiATnospamcgl.ucsf.EDU
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com Subject: Re: [K] Sore throat - chakra related?
Message-Id:
Hello,
I apologize because I'm quite far behind in the list, and this may already have been addressed.
>I wonder though from a metaphysical standpoint if my sore throat isn't
>not related to my stress level at work, my wonderful new boss who >overloads me with work though, my spiritual growth and waning social
>life (in part due to work). I'd appreciate any feedback about the >throat chakra. I do not know much about them, particularly the one
>dealing with the throat.
It's not uncommon for me to have energy related sore throats. There are a couple of things that are good for me to
balance the energy.
1.Put your arms to the side and raise them with the palms facing down until your hands are level with the throat, and palms still
facing the ground. You'll have to play with the distance from the sides until it feels right.
Now, lift your palms up, and see if you feel a shift upwards, and
then place your palms down after a few seconds. Finally, put your palms down and push your arms down to help drag the energy
to the ground. Repeat when necessary.
--This technique can be used at any chakra.
2.The other thing is to try to get the energy away from the physical body. Focus a couple of inches in front of the throat. If you
have trouble feeling that location, then place your hand there, and then feel your hand, and then move your hand away and continue
to feel that location. You may feel a tingling at this point. Now, focus a couple of inches behind the throat. Now the
energy will probably get strong doing this, so gently rock your head up and down slowly, and it will help circulate the
energy (I can give more details on this if desired.)
See you, Toshi
takeuchiATnospamcgl.ucsf.edu Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:38:09 -0800 (PST)
From: takeuchiATnospamcgl.ucsf.EDU To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Throat Chakra Message-Id:
Hello,
>I was wondering perhaps, if anyone has specific instructions to share
>with regard to activating the throat chakra.
Please be gentle with these exercises. I have found that asking the energy to be gentle can be of assistance!
You can get coughing and sore throats and other complications when
working with the throat.
--I would suggest reading my previous letter, and trying the exercise with focusing in front of and behind the throat. If
the energy gets strong, then do the head rocking and the hands at the side, mentioned in the letter.
A much gentler method is to simply meditate with the thumb and
forefinger touching (a common pose). This will help circulate the energy between the gonad chakra and the throat. You should
probably focus in front and behind the throat in this meditation too.
Take care, and please write with any questions or concerns.
Toshi
takeuchiATnospamcgl.ucsf.edu Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:33:09 +0100
From: Gloria Greco To: Kim Major
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com Subject: Re: [K] Sore throat - chakra related?
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Kim Major wrote: >
> It's interesting that you should suggest that, Gloria, because I used to > play the clarinet as a child and draw cartoons. Nowadays, I write (as I
> did when young) for a living as a public relations professional and > writing short stories, poetry and erotica on the side (for a creative
> outlet). Perhaps I am feeling stifled in some way? And interesting > still is that there are a LOT of photos of me (first born) as a child
> with my right hand covering my throat even though I am left handed. > Hmmmm.....thanks for all these insights, folks! :-)
> Kim
Gloria: I even watch my grandkids while playing, they are just totally in
movement and that center is glowing, I love it. They don't even know what they are doing and it is totally natural. My grandaughter speaks of
herself as an artist which she is, and is always teaching. She is in the second grade, brings home books from the library everyday. She told me
what wants chapter books for Christmas, she loves books. Studies every picture, teaches her 5 year old brother to read, which he is also doing.
It is amazing. When she comes to my house and gets on the piano, you know how kids play when they like the keys but don't know music. She
sits down and harmonizes with keys she doesn't even know she is playing. It is beautiful, I don't mind her playing on the piano because it is
music to my ears. >
> > Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
> Gloria Joy Greco > e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
> http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/ > &
> http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/ > Hope you enjoy them!
> > ______________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Hope you enjoy them! Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:41:06 +0100
From: Gloria Greco To: Dieter Dambiec
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Dieter Dambiec wrote:
> > Yesterday, I received the news, my friend from Israel told me:
> > I was at the beach with my children when my four-year-old
> son ran up to me, grabbed my hand, and led me to the shore, > where a sea gull lay dead in the sand. "Mommy, what happened
> to him?" the little boy asked. "He died and went to Heaven," > I replied.
> > My son thought a moment and then said, "And God
> threw him back down?" >
> Oh, well, why not another. >
> Yogi to Guru: Master, please explain why it is that whenever > I do headstand the blood rushes to my head, but when I stand
> up normally the blood does not rush to my feet. >
> Guru to Yogi: That is because your feet are not empty.
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher. Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at: http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
& http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them! Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:38:55 +0100
From: Gloria Greco To: anandajyoti
CC: Kim Major , kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
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anandajyoti wrote: >
> >
> Kim Major wrote: >
> Hello K people! :-) >
> I have been battling a sore throat for a week which I was > sure meant I
> was coming down with a cold or flu. ........ I went to a > nurse practitioner and who prescribed an
> antibiotic (and it is helping). >
> I wonder though from a metaphysical standpoint if my sore > throat isn't
> not related to my stress level at work, my wonderful new > boss who
> overloads me with work though, my spiritual growth and > waning social
> life (in part due to work). I'd appreciate any feedback > about the
> throat chakra. I do not know much about them, particularly > the one
> dealing with the throat. > Anandajyoti>
Gloria here: Actually, the throat chakra is very delicate and your thoughts along
with emotions that are off center can burn you from the inside. It is very easy to create a back flow of energy by one, not speaking from the
center and not from thought, two, by getting caught up in lower vibrations that you work around and then feeding them through your
input, and also by allowing thoughts that come back on you to be released. NOte: waining social life, boss that overworks you, stress
etc. You have placed yourself in a victim role, always good for back lash of energy. You are placed there to learn and grow now to think and
feel. This is the lesson, detachment, acceptance and total dedication to your heart center to love no matter what. Sounds tough? But, it is the
work of the spirit. Gloria >
> > In Love. Life and Light
> Anandajyoti > http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
> >
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/ &
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/ Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:13:04 -0800 (PST) From: merlinATnospampnn.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Cc: oreaATnospampop.erols.com
Subject: Re: sorrow after k experience: I've learned somethings. Message-Id:
I showed a sheep farmer friend the "Sorrow after K Experience" poem. She
said, "Beautiful. Now you need to drop your grounding chord and wash off all the sorrow that's other people's, not yours."
She's a wise sheep farmer; I did as she suggested. Most of the sorrow washed off and was returned to pure energy form. A kernel, which was the sorrow from
the experience, was left. I continued about my life with the question of "why?", swimming around my brain.
Yesterday I paused at a beach on the way back from a gallery run down the coast. I stood at the wave's edge and gave thanks. Knowing came back. I was
snagging others' grief on my energy body because I was actively holding onto my own. The energy invested in holding created a 'grief magnet'. As a wave
washed up to me, I bent over, lay my hands in the seafoam and let go of the grief. Joy moved in. The sorrow is not gone now, but I am not invested in it.
Therefore, washing off other people of the grief or fear or anger or whatever that isn't theirs, or even showing them how to do it themselves, is only
slapping a bandage on. The core of it is to acknowledge and honor that which is yours.... and cease holding onto it or trying to push it away. Either way
is resistance.
That's all. Gotta go do chores. We have a new steer calf named 'Sayonara" who needs breakfast.
Blessings are. Blythe
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 18:12:29 -1000 (HST) From: Melinda Guttmann
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Bless all of you,
I have had cosmic consciousness, and openings of the heart for many years. For the last year I had meditated with a Buddhist meditation teacher, who abandoned me two months ago when I started having a kundalini awakening. It started as a severe pain, and a shock of rainbow energy flowing up through the crown chakra. Now, my symtoms are quite intense. I have a sphere of light, with visions of faces, around my body and intense lights when I close my eyes. and 3-d effects. I am a university professor and cannot teach and need suppport--go from bliss to depression--need a Buddhist or Hindu teacher in New York--
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