1997/11/04 02:05
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #729
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 729
Today's Topics:
RE: A question for Dieter [ Michael Lance Mosher <inre0017ATnospamfran ]
Re: visitor & cabage [ Michael Lance Mosher <inre0017ATnospamfran ]
Re: visitor & cabage [ Michael Lance Mosher <inre0017ATnospamfran ]
Re: true colors [ Michael Lance Mosher <inre0017ATnospamfran ]
Re: [Fwd: Meditations from the World [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
RE: [Fwd: Meditations from the World [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: Swami Beyondananda's Wisdom [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: right brain/left brain [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re:Meditations from the World of Osh [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Dream fragment [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Psychic Vampires [ Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> ]
Re: need to know [ E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com> ]
RE: piercing the rudra knot [ Paul Fallon <pawlATnospamfirstnet.co.uk> ]
Re: Psychic Vampires [ freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net> ]
Re: Psychic Vampires [ Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> ]
FW from Isis (fwd) [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
Re: kundalini conference this weeken [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin. ]
KRN Conference [ PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com ]
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 13:05:24 -0600 (CST)
From: Michael Lance Mosher <inre0017ATnospamfrank.mtsu.edu>
To: Gloria <glorybeATnospamintrepid.net>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: RE: A question for Dieter
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On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Michael Lance Mosher wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Gloria wrote:
>
> > >oh Dieter!!!! Your poem has so spoken to my heart...please do share more
> > of your poetry!!!! For various reasons, I have lacked the mental focus to
> > respond in any meaningful way to all your postings, Dieter. Please know
> > that I have read them with much interest and appreciate your contributions
> > to the list very much. Sharon's question to you has evoked a very fruitful
> > exchange of ideas about the nature of feelings...the complexity of which
> > similarly overwhelms me at the moment...( I am recovering from major
> > surgery and on pain pills the last couple weeks which cloud my mind and
> > makes any thinking seem a great effort.) So I am saving your posts to study
> > later..just wanted to thank you for your considerable energy devoted to the
> > list here recently.. and to request more poems.. :))))) With true
> > devotion, Gloria Lee
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Sharon Webb [SMTP:shawebbATnospamyhc.edu]
> > >
> > >Dieter,
> > >
> > >The poem is lovely. Is it yours?
> > >[>]
> > >Most surely is - the worst is yet to come :))
> > >
> > >[>]
> > >>>If one bases one's actions in this world only on feelings that in itself
> > >is a limitation.
> > >
> > >Of course it is. And I would add that the tool kit of logic, without the
> > >balance of feeling, of love, of compassion, of acceptance, must fail when
> > >it tries to capture the ineffable
> > .
> > ***** BUT !!! Poetry does capture the ineffable so well.. so often...look
> > at Rumi..******* And your story about Mistakes.. which I will also delete
> > from this post was such another expression of compassion...Dieter, you are
> > a rich treasure, indeed, to share your wealth with us here on the list!!!
> > Thanks, many thanks... Gloria Lee
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 13:04:42 -0600 (CST)
From: Michael Lance Mosher <inre0017ATnospamfrank.mtsu.edu>
To: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
cc: fredaATnospamblarg.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: visitor & cabage
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On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Gloria Greco wrote:
> freda wrote:
> >
> >
> Gloria's
> > suggestion to Holly prompted the memory of that event as well as others,
> > I have always felt close to God and he/she have been with me in joy and
> > sorrow. Together we have had conversations which have included side
> > spitting laughter as well as deep felt sorrow. I am grateful for the
> > relationship which is perhaps the only relationship I have ever known
> > which has never, ever required that I pretend to be or feel anything
> > other than what is at any given moment, although I've been guided to
> > see my mistakes. Inevitable I suppose.
> > Thank you all again.
>
> HI Freda,
> When your aware of the Holy Spirit with you in your experience, you
> really are being carried even if sometimes it seems your not, but in
> truth you are. Gloria
> > --
> >
>
>
> --
>
> Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
> Gloria Joy Greco
> e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
> http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
> &
> http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
> Hope you enjoy them!
>
>
>
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 13:09:40 -0600 (CST)
From: Michael Lance Mosher <inre0017ATnospamfrank.mtsu.edu>
To: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: visitor & cabage
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On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Michael Lance Mosher wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, freda wrote:
>
> > Good Morning All,
> > After a very enlightened weekend I am feeling refreshed and full of
> > life! I thank all for your kind words and your insights about my
> > protective friend. I am looking forward to his next visit, should he
> > choose to visit again.
> > Also, I am grateful for your responses to my cabbage story. Gloria's
> > suggestion to Holly prompted the memory of that event as well as others,
> > I have always felt close to God and he/she have been with me in joy and
> > sorrow. Together we have had conversations which have included side
> > spitting laughter as well as deep felt sorrow. I am grateful for the
> > relationship which is perhaps the only relationship I have ever known
> > which has never, ever required that I pretend to be or feel anything
> > other than what is at any given moment, although I've been guided to
> > see my mistakes. Inevitable I suppose.
> > Thank you all again.
> > --
> > Freda ~ BE-IS-AM
> > http://www.blarg.net/~freda/01rg/hm/frhm.htm
> > http://www.blarg.net/~freda/01a/mnf/mrite.htm
> > ICQ # 4323543
> >
> >
>
>
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 13:10:02 -0600 (CST)
From: Michael Lance Mosher <inre0017ATnospamfrank.mtsu.edu>
To: "Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D." <hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: true colors
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On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Michael Lance Mosher wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D. wrote:
>
> > This autumn in D.C. is my first in 22 years and it is breaking my
> > heart. Los Angeles had autumn but it was more subtle -- this one packs
> > a wallop. An article in the paper reminded me that the reds and golds
> > we see in the leaves before they die are their true colors, masked in
> > youth by the need to produce chlorophyl. Nature flames out.
> >
> > I will turn 50 this weekend. I think K is gonna help me flame out,
> > too.
> >
> > Holly
> >
> >
>
>
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:17:39 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Meditations from the World of Osho]
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Ruth forwarded:
>"Meditation is the knack to watch. You are the watcher .You can watch the
>whole scene. There is no effort to concentrate on anything. No effort to
>contemplate on anything.You are not doing any of these things. You are
>simply watching, just aware. It is a knack, not a science, not an art, not
>a craft.
>
Thank you for forwarding this, Ruth. I for one would like to see more posts
like this. Practical exercises like this are much more helpful than the
abstract intellectualizing I see so much of here.
thanks again,
amckeon
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:17:48 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: [Fwd: Meditations from the World of Osho]
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Dieter said:
>I saw that on a Bugs Bunny show. But didn't think Daffy Duck would make a
>good guru as 'Quack' was not a particularly appealing mantra.
>
Dieter! You actually have a sense of humor! Congratulations on renting one :)
But seriously, folks. "Quack" may actually work for some people, and I
admire Daffy for his spontaneity and honest expression of his feelings.
Elmer Fudd, on the other hand, is in serious need of psychotherapy, Bugs is
a bit of a self-satisfied smartass, and poor Porky really needs to learn
detachment.
JMHO,
amckeon
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed above may not necessarily be
my own, but I don't have anyone else I can conveniently blame them on ;)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:09:55 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Swami Beyondananda's Wisdom
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Ruth forwarded:
>> Realize that life is a situation comedy that will never be
>> canceled. A laugh track has been provided, and the reason why we
>> are put in the material world is to get more material. Have a
>> good laugh twice a day, and that will ensure regular hilarity.
Ain't that the truth! Maybe if we open our ears enough to hear that laugh
track we will be better able to laugh at ourselves.
>> "Don't get even, get odd."
A maxim I try to live by, most everyone I know agrees that I am the oddest
person *they* know!
>> 9. If you're looking to find the key to the Universe, I have some
>> bad news and some good news. The bad news is - there is no key to
>> the Universe. The good news is - it has been left unlocked.
Something I have a hard time remembering! I spend so much time looking for
the "key," that I don't know what I'll do when I get the door open!
>> 10. Finally, everything I have told you is channeled. That way, if
>> you don't like it, it's not my fault. And remember, enlightenment
>> is not a bureaucracy. So we don't have to go through channels.
Very funnny, on several levels.
Thank you, Ruth, for another brilliant forwarded post,
amckeon
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:10:06 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: right brain/left brain
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Morgana wrote:
>I used to be right-handed. All of my life I thought of myself as
>right-handed, and my left hand was clumsy at fine work. With kundalini
>opening twelve years ago I became ambidextrous. Then I noticed that I
>was absent-mindedly feeding myself with the fork in my left hand. I
>would catch my left hand doodeling or untying knots in shoelaces. I now
>consider myself left-handed. With this came a shift in perspective to
>right-brain thought patterns.
I became ambidextrous for about three weeks during the height of the k
"manifestations", but now I am back to being right-handed. I do "mouse"
with my left hand, though, in order to guard against carpal tunnel in my
right wrist. I do use both sides of my brain, being both logical and
creative, etc. Took a test once (think it was in "Omni" magazine) that said
my brain was pretty integrated. My body is not though, I am quite
uncoordinated and graceless, so go figure.
Thanks for sharing. I find more in common with people on the list every
day; it is a continual blessing!
sincerely,
amckeon
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:10:14 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re:Meditations from the World of Osho
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>>dor writes:
>>When I first started on my sojourn, I would look into the bathroom mirror
>and often not see a reflection at all.
<snip>
>I would imagine that a lot of K'ers have had the same
>experience, but have never bothered to mention it, or had forgotten about
>it entirely. I only remembered after reading your post on the subject.
What if someone stares into the mirror and then sees ones eyes glow, before
the reflection disappears? Is this the same thing? At the time (many years
ago) I remember worrying that I was some kind of a vampire or something,
despite the fact that I had no interest in sucking anyone's blood. Also
having fears of not being able to die... Not seeing a reflection might have
the same effect on a person, given our cultural upbringing. Good to know it
can be a manifestation of K, huh?
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:10:21 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Dream fragment
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This is the part I remember when I awoke:
I was at some kind of "retreat" in the mountains with an Asian woman. She
gave me a gift of a bow made of light colored jade. I realized that her
giving me the gift meant she was leaving. I had the sense that I hadn't
felt close to this person, but her leaving made me very sad just the same.
I started to cry. Then I said "Wait! I have a gift for you, too." I turned
to look among my disorganized things, and that's when I woke up.
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 11:58:44 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Psychic Vampires
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Hi List. REading the notes about the visits to psychics leaving Freda(?)
with intense sadness and almost suicidal tendencies reminds me of
something I experienced from someone I call a "psychic vampire." This
person would use every one of my unclaimed will avenues to control me. He
would come over my house and when he left after only an hour or so, I
would have to sleep for 3 hours to recover. I knew he was evil, but he
always talked me into letting him come again...it was mind control at its
worst. I tried everything in the world to keep him away.. including
putting a dragon by the phone to remember he was this when I spoke to him
so I would not be lulled into agreeing to anything I did not entirely want
from my own will.
In 1995 I went to a conference of the International Transpersonal Assoc.
in Santa Clara (was anyone there besides me?) and met a lady who was a
Tibetan monk.. (she was actually born in Britian) and she gave a technique
called "The hungry ghosts" to me and I used it on him and it cleared it
all up instantly in 10 minutes. I had to visualize him an ask "What do
you want?" Then listen fo the answer... and bevery clear about it. Then I
had to find in myself the source of all this XX that he needed.. in this
case my beauty.. and send as much as I could into him. After only a few
minutes of this, he was full. He stopped bothering since then.. and I
have not been bothered since!
More later.. on this one...Ruth
******
Everytime one realizes something of the truth, there is a dance in the
heart. The heart is the only testimony for the truth. (Osho)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ruth Trimble email:<trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
http://166.122.32.61/trimble/
*****
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 20:19:00 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: acarreATnospamCONCENTRIC.NET
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: need to know
Message-ID: <345EA234.2E3ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
acarre wrote:
> Where is the need to drive in this world? Thinking there is a driver,
> only makes us think we are the ones acting. The only thing that does not
> change is change itself. Thinking there is a driver, makes us
> think/believe that the one perceiving change does not change, it limits
> his perspective, the ability to change ones perspective with the flow of
> events.
OK if you have arrived and have nowhere to go (all is One, All is Perfect, all is
Goddess) there is nowhere to go. However the words are not the experience. There is
indeed a greater Actor and also our little act. Flowing moment to moment is allowing
this Actor precedence . . .
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
> Love
> Antoine
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 22:29:12 -0000
From: Paul Fallon <pawlATnospamfirstnet.co.uk>
To: "'anandajyoti'" <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>,
"'k-list'"
<kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: piercing the rudra knot
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Thanks for the posts - a clear objective description of an experience that I'd still struggle to express clearly. I tend to be really dumb with the vocabulary and wider perspective, having taken the
For me, after a few unmistakable experiences, it rose thro the solar plexus and heart to the throat and there seemed to stay for hours and hours until, exhausted, I felt the need to stop. Since then - ten years? - my life has transformed and I am very involved with people and service. Until recently I've been drawn to work, not direct spiritual practice. I get the odd flickerings in my forehead, feelings of pressure and strange static sensations roving around my head area, the odd pulse at the base of the spine, but nothing more overt.
This list has been a great companion for me in recent months. And, at last, I have a question. Can you set me straight....
*Questions*: What is the significance of the throat blockage that was / maybe still is? Although it's not so dramatic and pronounced, it's still working away within me, no?
This is not the end: it is not even the beginning of the end. It is perhaps the end of the beginning.
-----Original Message-----
From: anandajyoti [SMTP:anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 1997 2:30 AM
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com; heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
Subject: Re: piercing the rudra knot
amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us wrote:
> As a help for the ignorant (me) could someone briefly explain this concept?
>
> Dear Amckeon!
Amckeon!The rudra knot is also called the rudra granthi in the Tantras.
When Kundalini is aroused and leaves the base chakra it closes that chakra and
proceeds on to the sex chakra which opens. This process of closing the chakra
and opening the next chakra goes on as it moves upwards through the spinal
central column. At the solar plexus chakra (the third chakra from the base),
the Kundalini pierces the Brahma-Knot, towards its movement further up towards
the heart chakra, where it pierces the Vishnu-Knot.
The knot at the center of the third eye, or the center of Christ Consciousness,
The third eye of Shiva, is the Rudra Knot. On piercing this knot the Kunadalini
seeks communion with the brain which is the Thousand petalled lotus or
Sahasrara.
Hope this makes it a bit clear for you to understand.
Anandajyoti
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
·
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 14:56:29 -0800
From: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
To: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Psychic Vampires
Message-ID: <345E569C.471AATnospamblarg.net>
Dear Ruth and fellow K list members:
I am NOT the member with suicidal tendencies.
--
Freda ~ BE-IS-AM
http://www.blarg.net/~freda/01rg/hm/frhm.htm
http://www.blarg.net/~freda/01a/mnf/mrite.htm
ICQ # 4323543
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 13:10:55 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Psychic Vampires
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Hi Freda; Sorry if it looked that way.. but I did not intend this.
I did not notice who made this comment. Have a good day:)....
> Subject: Re: Psychic Vampires
> Dear Ruth and fellow K list members:
> I am NOT the member with suicidal tendencies.
> --
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 06:02:06
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: FW from Isis (fwd)
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>From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamHAWAII.EDU>
>Subject: FW from Isis (fwd)
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>
>Something to plan for ...
>>
>>A Landmark WorldLove Event
>>
>>On Saturday, November 8, 1997, an unprecedented mergence of love energy
>>will be projected, simultaneously, around the world.
>>
>>In cooperation with bookstores and regional participants around the
>>world, thousands of people will be participating in sending and receiving
the
>>energies of love and goodwill that will circulate around the planet.
>>
>>The only requirement is as follows:
>>
>>**The energy of love must be sent out, with only the purest intent, to
>>ALL inhabitants of this planet, without exception. This conglomeration of
>>love can then be embraced by all.
>>
>>There is no charge of any kind for participation and all proceeds of
>>love, go to all that frequent this earth. These energies will be projected
>>from locations designated by each individual, at his/her own specified time.
>>For the most favorable results, participation should be performed in a
>>peaceful environment.
>>
>>This testament of love, will symbolize the increased devotion and higher
>> ideals that we have or are currently developing, in the care of
>>ourselves and the planet. Once we acknowledge the natural beauty we have
>within ourselves and all around us, only then will we accelerate our
>growth and
>>evolvement.
>>
>>This event is being organized anonymously. There are no material
>>benefits being obtained by anyone. This is purely for the growth,
>evolvement and happiness of everyone on this planet!
>>
>>
>>All individuals are encouraged to participate!
>>
>>
>>This type of event is the first known of this scale,
>> and will offer much spiritual reward.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>-------E-mail:_ <maroonsATnospampoi.net> ----{;o)Create w/Love: Pame{;o)
>
>
> *If something is thought of, and only the one who thought of
> it can see it, does it exist only as a thought?
>
>{|\ /|} Thoughts are inspirations Keep them High^
>SS)SSSSSS(SS) You are Thought manifesting an Idea into an Ideal
>{L) ~~ ~~ (c) Thought and then it becomes real and feeling.
>(O) Q Q (a)
> (V) =w= (r)
> (E) ^ (e) < Hiya all!)
>_____sss________________________***&===_______________________
>
>
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 19:26:29 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini conference this weekend in CA
Message-ID: <345E1754.4312ATnospamintercomm.com>
Just in case there is anyone on the list going to the kundalini
conference I will be going on Saturday and until Sunday afternoon which
is this weekend. I know several people who are presenting who have
invited me to meet with them but otherwise would be happy to meet with
anyone from the list. Just write me and let me know. Gloria
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 02:07:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin.umich.edu>
To: Marc Verkoelen <marcvATnospamxs4all.nl>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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> pains in my back and i became to a certain extend psychotic.
In this case, discontinue activities that excite kundalini. Above
all else, get your sleep. Staying awake too long and reaching a second
wind will complicate the negative effects of an awakening. If psychotic
symptoms get too strong, relax as much as you can, and focus on the
reality that surrounds you: put your attention on what you see and hear.
If you become frightened or upset, watch your breathing and heart rate.
Instead of catching your breath and getting excited by unnecessary fear,
relax a part of your mind, put yourself into that part and calmly watch
the rest of you reacting to your internal and external environment until
the fear passes. If your trouble lasts more than a few minutes, talk to a
good friend. I've found being with someone who loves me to be very
grounding. Don't be embarrassed to share with your friend even the
unreasonable things that bother you. Let him or her help you see truth.
For your back pain, avoid stress as much as possible. Relax.
Accept yourself as your are now and don't be too demanding about changes
you expect within yourself. Slow and gentle change may well help you
progress faster than fast, painful, three-steps-forward-two-steps-back
change. Don't overextend yourself. Stick to the basics in your life.
Focus on one cause of stress in your life and work on it until it is
reduced. Don't discourage yourself by trying to get rid of every
stressful thing in your life at once.
> antipsychotica.I want to know if this is an right treatment.
> Im so afraid of the pains and antipsychotica helps me with my pains.
I dislike all psychological drugs because of their vast array of
nasty side effects. A low dose might be ok on a short time basis, but I'd
suggest life changes in the long term.
I have been having more back pain recently myself. I'll see what
I can do for myself before I make any more recommendations to you.
Dan
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:39:26 -0500 (EST)
From: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: KRN Conference
Message-ID: <971103191727_646455617ATnospamemout05.mail.aol.com>
Is anyone else going to the Kundalini Research Network Conference at Mt.
Madonna this week? If you are, please let me know.
Thanks,
Peg
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