1997/10/30 12:46
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #721
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 721
Today's Topics:
RE: piercing the rudra knot [ Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.c ]
RE: Intellectualizing [ Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.c ]
Re: An unpleasant experience [ Nancy <NancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
Re: Mutant Message Down Under [ imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx) ]
Re: An unpleasant experience [ imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx) ]
Re: Introduction from a newbie. [ imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx) ]
Re: An unpleasant experience [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
Re: The twittering of a bird [ UweJohannATnospamaol.com ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ UweJohannATnospamaol.com ]
no more [ Nisse Hjelm <n-hATnospamalgonet.se> ]
Re: Introduction from a newbie. [ Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toro ]
Vibrations/K [ onarresATnospaminreach.com ]
Re: Introduction from a newbie. [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: Piercing the Rudra Knot [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: Vibrations/K [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 20:08:46 +1100
From: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: piercing the rudra knot
Message-ID: <01BCE58B.A5095B80ATnospampppclient5.canberra.edu.au>
-----Original Message-----
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us [SMTP:amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us]
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 1997 1:34 AM
[>] I presume this refers to the Vishuddha chakra at the location of the throat. The Vishuddha Cakra is situated in the sinusoid nerve of the throat and this is the centre of speech. The importance of this plexus is very great. It is helpful to the enlightening of intellect. In its neighbourhood exist the thyroid and parathyroid glands.
To pierce this chakra the result is to go beyond the world of matter and into the other worlds. One meaning of 'rudra' is to weep. Such is its affect. Weeping occurs due to immense love for the Lord/God.
Many hormones secreted by the upper glands are metabolised here and absorbed here, and very little of these hormones descend down. Control of the Vishhudha chakra results in the sound of the voice becomes powerful and sonorous and pleasant. Control of this chakra/'nerve centre' even allows one to know all languages. I have not, of course, experienced that. But have seen this happen in a totally enlightened being at a situation where even a friend of mine from Papua New Guinea confirmed that the Guru was speaking his tribal language to him.
Much intellectual and scientific knowledge can be derived by control of this chakra.
When sleeping divinity of kulakundalini crosses this point, ie the throat location of the Vishuddha chakra, then ones experiences the feeling of "I am one with My Beloved. The 'mental state' (although it is more than that) is not one of close contact, but oneness. Indeed the state is 'I am one with the Supreme Cognition.'
Of course there are higher states even than this when through intense meditation the k crosses the ajinana chakra, the controlling point of the pituitary gland. In that point, the feeling is that "I am That." "I" and "God" become one. There is a coincidence. This is savikalpa samadhi.
But there is still another stage. The last stage is when the kulakundalini comes to the seat or nucleus of the Supreme Consciousness, ie the controlling point for this is at the pineal gland. This is the nirvikalpa samadhia. The differentiation between "I" and "God" disappears. So "I exist" or "He exists" -- these two ideas disappear altogether. This is the stage of non-attributional consciousness. It is the Supreme Stance of a Yogi. This is somewhat a little different to the "I am That" of savikalpa samadhi.
Any of these states may take lifetimes to achieve. However, God's Grace is omnipresent and by a wee tint of His Grace it may even take such a miniscule amount of time - that is entirely up to Him. By effort one can of course have the Divine Grace showered. But with no effort or love for God - such a Grace may be clouded by the umbrella of ego.
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 22:15:15 +1100
From: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au>
To: "'anandajyoti'" <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
Cc: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: Intellectualizing
Message-ID: <01BCE58B.C0AB5500ATnospampppclient5.canberra.edu.au>
-----Original Message-----
From: anandajyoti [SMTP:anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 1997 5:11 AM
> Dieter>What is an Objective Goal. Anything objective is bound by relativity and that will not last. So how an anything limited be a goal. Once one get the thing they wan't then the mind will look for another.
>
Anandajyoti>Agree with your perspective, but I wish to enjoy all life in all aspects, with that knowing
of Who I am, What is my mind,and all the rest.
[>] True, agree entirely. My own conclusion is that one can enjoy but even the the thought of Godliness is a must in the enjoyment process and makes it an even better 'enjoyment'. In fact not really enjoyment per se but a transcendence.
Dry knowledge alone makes one limited in the capacity to enjoy the wholeness of Creation, the flowers of feelings stop rendering their aroma. This is my experience., to enjoy which to me means "IN JOY", without obsseive attachments.
[>] Yes, that is the key - non attachment. Is it not the case that even with attached but good/healthy enjoyment there are still reactions being created to that event just undertaken, ie it may be healthy and create good reactions but reactions nevertheless. The old saying chains of gold or chains of iron.
Last night I dreamt a funny thing about illness and decay - because it was a fast day for me :) and in that process I awoke somewhat and thought about death but still had a longing for some 'nice' things, but realised if I was going to die and think of such things at the time of death then my mind is simply taking that form because of past reactions to events, but realised with some relative ease I could think of higher thoughts and focus on God's Love and start meditation even if suffering a painful death so that mind goes to catch its Subjective Goal. I haven't died yet of course, but seems to me whatever thought/s or processes one has in the mind at time of death would be highly important in terms of what is 'achieved' by the death. Hence, the need to cultivate the highest thoughts at all times with non-attachment to good or not so good deeds and actions.
As Shakespeare said: To be or not to be, that is the question.
So what, if it does not last, I would accept that in the field of relativity, for that also exists in the ALL THAT IS. If I accept the whole, I accept it wholly, not in parts.
[>] Practically of course we have to do lots of things in this world. It is a divine drama and utilise we must. Nobel objectives are fine by me. It is better to have a lots of things to do than none.
> Dieter>Objective things are fine for sustaining life, ....objective things a goal. Indeed if that is done the mind will take the form of its thoughts and if the thoughts are matter oriented then that leads to attachment to things....Subjective Goal is realising that Oneness.
>
Anandajyoti> From the above knowing and knowing my mind, and Who I am, empowers me to control my mind also. I am not my Mind but my mind is an instrumentfor me to express, undertsand, experience what IS.
[>] yes, and these ideas/thoughts are not that difficult to cultivate with a bit of practice
Dieter
>
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 05:54:49 +0000
From: Nancy <NancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: An unpleasant experience
Message-ID: <34582127.5F6BATnospamwtp.net>
Hi Dan,
I can't recall ever feeling someone's physical pain. Yet frequently, I
pick up on people's emotions. A woman I know who was closing her
business after a couple of years of operation. When I encountered her
one day, I could feel the sadness and pain well up in my heart.
I suppose we all read other people's emotions. Generally, I don't take
them on as my own. I realize it's theirs and am able to temper my
response based on my "reading." When I do feel their emotions, I still
recognize that it's there stuff.
More difficult for me is negative energy coming from people who complain
and whine and bitch. I find that if I don't protect myself when I'm
listening to this, I take it in without realizing it. Usually I get rid
of this negative energy through uncharacteristic anger, rage or
cynicism. I guess it's my attempt to push that crap out of me. These
days, I try to avoid it before I take it in.
Nancy
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 06:51:01 -0500
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx)
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Mutant Message Down Under
Message-ID: <19971030.073516.19406.9.imtgATnospamjuno.com>
Ms. Morgan came to my town to speak at the Unity Church about her
walk-abouts with the aborigines. (she's had more 3 more since her book).
Her speech was fantastic, enlightening and full of wonderful stories.
She gave away books to anyone that wanted one - no charge. She
explained that when she went to have the book published that she wanted
to get the message of the aborigines to as many as she could, and it was
suggested to her to have it registered under fiction, rather than
non-fiction. So that's what she did! There is no doubt in my mind that
her book is definitely non-fiction.
xxxtg
*There are three types of people in the world.
Those that can count and
those that cannot count*
<<Morgan didn't live with Australian aborigines and the book is not a
valid account of aboriginal life. Many Australian aboriginal women have
criticised the book and the allusion to it being factual as it does not
reflect their true culture. I believe one Australian aboriginal went to
the U.S. to promote its launch. He was motivated by the money to support
the story and has since retracted his comments on its validity.
Enjoy it for its fictional story but recognise that it isn't a true
mirror of aboriginal life.>>
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html <~~~~ on the web now!
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 07:33:42 -0500
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx)
To: danjgATnospamengin.umich.edu
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: An unpleasant experience
Message-ID: <19971030.073516.19406.13.imtgATnospamjuno.com>
<< This isn't the first time I've thought that I've
felt the pain (or pleasure) of another as if it were my own. Can anybody
relate?
Earlier this year, my right side of my chest felt like it was being
crushed (like a right sided heart attack) and my right arm went numb. I
felt as if I was going to die, so rather than alert anyone because I
wasn't in any real pain or anything and wasn't *quite* sure what it was,
I just layed down and thought, well if I'm gonna die, I'm gonna die -
just kindof observed it. This was 2:30pm. It finally got better about
an hour later, but still continued but not so bad. About 11:00 that
night, someone called to tell me that my favorite aunt in Ga. (I live in
Florida) had a massive heart attack and stroke on her left side, and
guess what time? Yep 2:30pm. So I got my bags packed and drove the 10
hours up there, wondering why I was still feeling so much of her stuff.
She was hooked up to all the tubes and in critical condition. Of course
she couldn't talk. Seems I was her only communication link for them.
For instance, once my throat got filled with this gooky stuff. So I
asked Aunt Joyce (who at the time was trying her best to relate something
to us but couldn't because of the tubes), if her throat was filled with
something. She shook her head yes. I called the nurse and told them -
it took them nearly an hour to unclog her throat because of a mishap with
the tube. Things like that happened over and over for a week. When she
would have physical therapy, I'd be layed up for a couple of hours
afterwards with exhaustion!
I discovered I was an empath for other's crap while living in Ga. in 95.
It was midnight and I was really enjoying reading a book in my bedroom,
sitting in my favorite reading chair. The book was Alan Cohen's "Joy is
My Compass." All of a sudden, for no reason at all, I burst out crying.
And couldn't stop. I re-read the paragraph I had just read, and it was a
very happy paragraph - nothing to get upset about. So I'm still crying
and carrying on, and I start pacing the floor, talking out loud to God
and saying '' look God, I don't know why I'm crying and what the heck is
going on here, but I'm not going to sleep until I find out why!'' Kept
pacing and crying and talking.... About 12:20am, (20 min. later), the
doorbell rang! I rarely had visitors at night, and of course, never
that late. So I wiped my tears and went to the door and it was my Uncle
Larry. He said he was driving around and saw my bedroom light on and
thought he would drop by. I asked 'what's up?' and he burst into tears!
I laughed and started bawling too and we just hugged each other crying
for awhile. Seems he was upset because his brother, my Uncle Tubby, was
dying of cancer and was on his last legs of life. Larry said he had
just been driving around and crying for awhile. So we talked for a
couple of hours, getting us both out of our funk. Then we got in his
truck around 3am to drive the 45 min. to the hospital to visit with
Tubby. Some wonderful miracles occurred during that visit also!
Didn't mean to go into so much detail, but I guess I wanted to make the
point that with each time I felt something intense like these, I noticed
something was being asked of me also - like a call for help, healing and
love in some way.
xxxtg
*The lily is just another onion when you are pessimistic. When you're
optimistic, the onion is a lily*
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html <~~~~ on the web now!
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 07:34:47 -0500
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx)
To: L.J.CzermakATnospamherts.ac.uk
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Introduction from a newbie.
Message-ID: <19971030.073516.19406.14.imtgATnospamjuno.com>
Hi Lenny....
So glad you posted and have subscribed to the list! My awakening came in
93 & 94 and I searched for answers since then -- I came upon this list
about a year ago, and what wonderful healing has been done this past year
because of it! I think, mainly, because I finally discovered I wasn't
alone in all this.
I'm sure you will receive many helpful answers to your questions. For
pressures in my head, Reiki helped at the time. For insomnia, I go with
the flow and play on the computer or read or whatever. This, too, shall
pass.
Becoming cynical about spiritual matters is something I went through too.
Not sure why that occurs, but it has opened me up to love towards
people, rather than spiritual matters. I think we get so caught up in
the path to God, that we forget about others along the way. So, again,
just go with the flow and know that all of this is leading you to where
you are going (wherever that might be!).
Take care,
xxxtg
*Kundalini pain is being unable to unsubscribe to this list. Looks like
once you turn it on, you can't turn it off.* (a former subscriber that
didn't read the rules)
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html <~~~~ on the web now!
<<I have stopped any routine spiritual disciplines and become quite
cynical about spiritual matters. I want to find a way forward. I want to
share experiences and find out some practical ways of soothing, if not
curing, some of the symptoms I have been experiencing, especially the
insomnia, unilateral muscle spasms, and the pressure I
feel in my head.>>
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 10:17:43 -0500
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: An unpleasant experience
Message-Id: <199710301528.KAA05394ATnospamhoboken>
tg xxx,
Your right-sided "heart attack" brought to mind a phenomena that often
seems to happen with Silva Method remote viewing case work. Often, even
usually, left and right are reversed. For example, once I saw quite
clearly a hospital patient with a left-sided mastectomy. Correct, except
it was the right breast. Another example: I drew a floorplan of a house
that was correct in all details except that it was a mirror image of the
actual house. I have no idea why this happens.
Sharon
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 10:36:16 -0500 (EST)
From: UweJohannATnospamaol.com
To: d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The twittering of a bird
Message-ID: <971030103347_715424391ATnospamemout08.mail.aol.com>
Hallo Dieter,
You wrote;
<<<< [>] Mind is becoming more subtle. Don't be surprised if you want to be
a
vegetarian next.
But no need to throw away some of the things mentioned can be useful for
worldly existence, unless you want to become a monk/nun.>>>>
Yes, Dieter, but let me say, I'm not a vegetarian, I'm not a buddhist,
I'm not a nihilist, I'm not ......
I am a human being, that prefers to eat vegetables in all ways (I like to
cook chinese/indian/arabian and rheinlaendisch {not only Sauerkraut} way).
And if
there is meat in the meal, OK, I eat it. Thats what I wonder, it's so
easy this way, without pressure from outside. I feel it only... no
desire, thats all.
I read about the rules for monks and nuns in some buddhist books,
that acts as a deterrent for me, so I'm shure I'm not going to be one.
To my suprise, I feel no need for rules, and still keep them ( ....the most,
psssst).
tschuess
Uwe
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 10:42:02 -0500 (EST)
From: UweJohannATnospamaol.com
To: abhallATnospamora.auracom.com
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-ID: <971030103350_-426061433ATnospamemout10.mail.aol.com>
Hello Anna,
I want to tell you, my 15 years old daugthers name is Anna too,
oh.. and today I'm married 16 years ago. What a lovely day....
You wrote;
<<< yes i had tried unsucessfully to unsubscribe to the list
because i was disappointed in the bantering of info instead of talking and
sharing our experiences re: kundalini. I want to read and learn and share
too but i think the ppl who want to intelectualize should go to another web
site? and allow us others to do what we thought we were going to do here at
the kundalini.........
Does anyone else agree? How about it? >>>>
If it is a technical reason, that it was unsucessfull to unsubscribe, I or
others
will help you how it works, but I would like to see it more if you stay, and
tell
your story, share your experiences.
I know next to nothing about Kundalini and I have had none of that great
experiences, only some of this vibrations in night and other symptomes
without
dramatic, may be that I am to sober.
But by reading of some of the post from the list I'm getting electrified, the
feeling, I learned, that tells me there is truth in it with a meaning, not in
the words, they are only a crutch, but in the whole connection?!? (<-this is
a big crutch, I cant explain I another way, maybe you feel what I mean)
I have learned a lot in the last months about me by reading the post of
others,
and I am learning a lot about others by looking in me.
Please, e-mail if you want, I like it,
with best regards,
tschuess
Uwe
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 18:07:06 +0100
From: Nisse Hjelm <n-hATnospamalgonet.se>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: no more
Message-ID: <3458BEBA.2800ATnospamalgonet.se>
take me awaye from mailing list.
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:05:48 -0500 (EST)
From: Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toronto.on.ca>
To: "Len.C" <L.J.CzermakATnospamherts.ac.uk>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Introduction from a newbie.
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9710301131.A11434-0100000ATnospamqueen>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hi Lenny, thanks for sharing. I have had similar exeriences to you. I
also attended 12 step programs and felt the power in the room. I used to
try to figure it out but never could. Other people said the same thing.
The meetings had power. I believe that like minds stimulated the kundalni
in all of us.
The most interesting experiences I had were when I was walking down the
street depressed, suddenly when I looked at someone who was not
depressed, their kundalini awakened I felt lifted. Amazing. One light -
lights another.
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 09:07:40 -0800
From: onarresATnospaminreach.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Vibrations/K
Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971030090740.007c8910ATnospammail.inreach.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Dear K list,
It seems that whenever something occurs in my life, I can be certain that
within a day or so - someone from the K list will write about it.
I had a 'talk' with a person on the list about epilepsy - two days later
the subject came up. Two days ago, I had another email regarding absorbing
other people's pain... today the very subject appears.
Last week I had taken on the pain in the form of severe cramps in the calf
of the leg. Another while doing a mini healing, and Friday I absorbed the
pain in another's foot while speaking to her on the telephone. There are
times I am not aware that people have injuries and often wonder why I am
feeling aches and pains in various parts of the body especially when there
is no reason. I find I am drained of energy whenever I go into a clinic,
hospital or medical facility where there are patients. I've tried the white
light, the anchoring process, and nothing really seems to work for me.
Needless to say, I stay away from those places as much as possible.
I've heard about the various yogis and people who pick up another's
vibrations, I do this as well. When there is hostility in one's post, even
without expressing it in words, I feel it. When there is a great amount of
love, I feel that as well. Words may be just words, but they seem to carry
a vibration from the person writing. K sure works in strange ways.
love dor
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:04:27 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: "Len.C (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)" <L.J.CzermakATnospamherts.ac.uk>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Introduction from a newbie.
Message-ID: <34585BA9.3272ATnospamintercomm.com>
Len.C (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote:
>
> Hi everyone
>
>
> I felt as if a shower of love or bliss
> were emanating from the pit of my stomach and sprayed upward through me
> to the very outreaches of the universe. I actually felt that if I
> abandoned myself to this experience i would die of bliss. I was afraid of
> being obliterated by this power. I also felt a deep sense of being
> unworthy of it and consequently, to my deepest regret, i asked for God
> to stop it. At this the intensity diminished.
> I remember that the force of this energy actually threw my head
> back and I later felt that perhaps my head was not cleased by the
> process, as I have had an accummalation of energy in my head on a daily basis
> since the experience.
> My interpretation of the experience was of God
> reciprocating my "thank you" with an outpouring of love. I still feel
> that way today.
>
> Lenny
Hi Lenny,
YOu've started from a place of interior prayer, don't stop that, just
awake to what is going on inside of yourself. The big thing is to
release all of the negative energy you've been carrying for so long, not
only about yourself, but about others. One of the big things that is
needed with kundalini is to become absorbed into the frequency of love
in the heart center. You can't enter into this however, with anger or
resentment toward another human being, including yourself. That is a
beam in the eye, so it really has to be removed so that you understand
and accept your place in time and space. Then you work on that
connection to God, which you will come to know very well as light and
sound, what you would know as the Holy Spirit. The love frequency will
release you from your past bondage from liquor and teach you what it
means to put God first in your life. All of the pressure, not being able
to sleep is connected to this lower energy that causes kind of a back
last of energies, or static. Get into a hot bath, release your
frustrations, fears, and wrap yourself in Divine Love. Humble yourself
by having a deep heart centered conversation with God like he/she is
your best friend, see what happens. Gloria Check out my homepage and we
can talk again.
>
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 10:53:45 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: smacraeATnospamcamtech.net.au
CC: Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toronto.on.ca>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com,
heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
Subject: Re: Piercing the Rudra Knot
Message-ID: <34585927.696EATnospamintercomm.com>
Susanne Macrae wrote:
Barbara and Sue: Gloria here:
The big thing to do in your spiritual walk with kundalini is to really
connect up to God within your heart center. Fear is from the lower
centers and doesn't exist in the heart on up. So the real mission is to
live from the heart. If you really put your faith and focus on getting
naturally into that direct communication process with God you will find
that fear will not touch you. When it comes in, say this is from the
solar plexus, I give it to you Lord, and then go into your heart seed
sound to quiet down. You can also use a mantra like shreem...which
invokes an aspect of Mother to quiet down the solar plexus. She actually
does spiritual warfare in your behalf.
>
> Hi Barbara,
>
> When I discovered what was happening to me (the word kundalini just
> popped into my head one day and I searched until I found a book, Lee
> Sannella's Kundalini Experience) I became so overwhelmed that I should
> have this magnificent experience that I really sought to help her as
> much as possible.
>
> I went through 12 years of agaraphobia and panic attacks before K where
> fear was my whole life. For 12 months I couldn't leave my home. I lived
> fear 24 hours a day. I couldn't drive a car for over 5 years because of
> panic.
>
> To get out of this I had to learn to embrace my fear. Sometimes K will
> put me through a new rigour and I will feel the fear. My technique for
> dealing with it is just to focus on expanding my aura and calling on God
> energy to hold me safe. To step into the fear. Sometimes I just have to
> sit back (or lie back) and say "do what you will, I know I'm safe".
>
> The ego is the source of our fear. Spiritual transformation through K
> threatens the ego and so fear can often be a real problem.
>
> I guess you are right. Knowledge does help. My past experiences of fear
> also helps.
>
> Love Sue
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:14:07 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: onarresATnospaminreach.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Vibrations/K
Message-ID: <34585DEC.7BF6ATnospamintercomm.com>
onarresATnospaminreach.com wrote:
>
> Dear K list,
Gloria:
Several people posted on picking up on others pain. This is a normal
occurrence as you awaken certain chakra's in the body, you become more
like a receiver/transmitter. What you do, is take note of it, ask what
it is and was... and then let it go. You don't want to carry it, many
psychics do this and live a very short life because they end up taking
on from the people they see, as do healers. The reason you feel it, is
simple to tell you that you made the connection, give it to God, and
detach.
Detachment is a word that needs to become a major part of your
awareness with kundalini, you will detach from your senses on every
level. In detaching, you open up to higher frequencies and also release
blocks through our your spiritual and physical body. Hope this helps.
For those having a problem with detachment write to me directly and I
will tell you about my book that I wrote specifically for this purpose.
> Last week I had taken on the pain in the form of severe cramps in the calf
> of the leg. Another while doing a mini healing, and Friday I absorbed the
> pain in another's foot while speaking to her on the telephone. There are
> times I am not aware that people have injuries and often wonder why I am
> feeling aches and pains in various parts of the body especially when there
> is no reason. I find I am drained of energy whenever
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Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
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