1997/10/29 13:34
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #719
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 719
Today's Topics:
question life ahead [ valerian <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> ]
Kundalini yoga and Hugh, who is not [ Tom Bradley <tombATnospamPhoneLink.COM> ]
Some thoughts [ E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com> ]
RE: A question about a change for th [ Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.c ]
RE: Need to know what to expect when [ Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.c ]
Re: Need to know what to expect when [ "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospamresearch ]
piercing the rudra knot [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: left brain/right brain [ iri <iriATnospamivyrealty.com> ]
Re: left brain/right brain [ Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toro ]
Re: HELP (Getting nut !) [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: HRTZEN: Some thoughts [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: Some thoughts [ "Ed Arrons" <eeaATnospamaug.com> ]
RE: Why strange ideas [ Paul Fallon <pawlATnospamfirstnet.co.uk> ]
Re: Need to know what to expect when [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 00:18:40 -0800
From: valerian <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: question life ahead
Message-ID: <3456F0F5.7433ATnospamptialaska.net>
"Questioner: Why is truth unpalatable?
KRISHNAMURTI: If I think I am very beautiful, and you tell me I am
not,which may be a fact, do I like it? If I think I am very intelligent,
very clever, and you point out that I am actually a rather silly person,
it is very unpalatable to me. And your pointing out my stupidity gives
you a sense of pleasure, does it not? It flatters your vanity, it shows
how clever YOU are. But you do not want to look at your own stupidity;
you want to run away from what you are, you want to hide from yourself,
you want to cover up your own emptiness, your own loneliness. So you
seek out friends who never tell you what you are. You want to show
others what they are; but when others show you what you are, you do not
like it. You avoid that which exposes your own inner nature."
(from 'life ahead', edited by D. RAJAGOPAL, teachings of j.
krishnamurti, pub. by A QUEST BOOK/ A Theosophical Publishing House,
Wheaton, Il., copyright 1963 by Krishnamurti Writings, Inc.)
*********************
valerie cooper
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7982/index.html
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 12:24:52 -0000
From: Tom Bradley <tombATnospamPhoneLink.COM>
To: "'kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Kundalini yoga and Hugh, who is not English by the way
Message-ID: <01BCE465.A8DB37A0ATnospamtomb.dev.PhoneLink.COM>
Dear Anandajyoti,
Thank you very much for the advice and the book recommendation. I phoned Radha house about a month ago, so I know that they're around for me to get the book from them, which I will. Ooops! Embarrassment! Hugh's message was cc'd to the list - I thought it came to me alone. Anyway, here's our full
discussion (to those who think I was being mean). I have noticed veiled comments though which I took to be directed at me, so, to clear the air:
Tom Bradley wrote:
> Hugh,
>
> No offense, it was just a bit of a laugh to me. I thought some people took
> some things I said about being Welsh out of context and without either a
> sense of humour or irony. I have nothing to do with spouting more extreme
> views. As far as race issues being relevant to the list, well they're not are
> they? Pride in your heritage is quite a separate thing from race hatred.
> Incidentally, congratulations on being a Scot - the Scottish are a worthy
> people!
>
> Regards,
> Tom
>
>
Fair enough, Tom. No offense taken. I probably over-reacted in the
first place. I can be a right irritable c*nt at times.
You are quite right; pride in your heritage and the traditions of your
fore-fathers is important. I'm proud to be a Celt too. I acknowledge it
must be much worse being Welsh than Scottish. I live 2 or 3 miles from
the English/Welsh border by the Forest of Dean so there's actually 3 races
here; English, Welsh and Forrester. And they all seem to hate each other;
well, not really, but the playful banter does get pretty vicious sometimes.
It's just that these issues have led to so much hatred and blood-shed in
these isles over the last few hundred years, and I think we sometimes
have to be careful that what we say is taken in the right way.
Anyways, I wish you well Tom. Sorry we got off on a bad note, but hell,
it's all grist for the mill.
regards,
Hugh.
>Thanks for your words, Hugh!
> I hope you haven't withdrawn from the list. Some of the contributors say some strange things, but it is an interesting social venue, and it's a kick to see the >messages stream in through the day. It's worth sticking with, I'd say.
Best wishes,
Tom
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:22:02 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: tariqasATnospamworld.std.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca,
heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
Subject: Some thoughts
Message-ID: <34577ECA.1C5AATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Sum thoughts:
(Most of them should add up)
THE SHARING
Once upon a time before such things existed, there was God knows what. Of course there
was no knowing of non-perfection. This required something else. We are that something
else, created with the opportunity denied Perfection; to separate and find Union.
GRADUATION
Through the movement into manifestation the awareness is shrouded by attachment to
manifestation, instead of the cause. The cause and manifestation are indeed One. Our
experience calls for a gradual and steady movement back to causation, increasing in full
awareness.
There is no duality in manifestation, only in experience. People may be aware of the
cause with a great deal of unraveling still needed, or they may have done much
preparation and yet not have the experience of Oneness.
It is possible to increase in the experience of the Oneness (move closer to it).
MEANS
Developing the potential and best attributes of our being involves integration. Learning
from others provides the potential for finding the most appropriate Way to the core of
our Being. People find the means reflective of their own inner state. We may need
something else, this is what we must each find . . .
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 19:44:24 +1100
From: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: A question about a change for the worse
Message-ID: <01BCE4CA.4E98E160ATnospampppclient6.canberra.edu.au>
-----Original Message-----
From: N. Eckert [SMTP:watrfallATnospamniagara.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 1997 5:36 AM
Nancy:
Science can never define spirituality. It is insane to even try to. While
science can define some of what happens to us on a physical level. It's
theories deteriorate on other planes of existence where a whole new set of
definitions apply... where humans and elephants can fly :)
[>] The mind has become complex and complicated. When the science of psychology was first found (this century) it was even thought that there was no such science. Sociology as a science was likewise criticised. Now these are all accepted as science.
Meditation is a science. The whole understanding of mind and being is a science. Because spiritual practices involve an understanding of glands, chakras, nerve centres, hormones, control and application of mental propensities, all this is a body of knowledge and if it is systematised it is far easier for people to find and properly apply it. That is what science does. Science is not limited to any territory or subject. Intuitional science is the science of the future. In 10-20 years it will probably be accepted as unscientific to just apply techniques at random. The mind is the scientific laboratory of the intuitional scientist. Without an effort to put together what has been learnt from practice into theory - human beings will just have to keep reinventing the wheel. There is no need for this waste of effort when science can stream line all of this and explain it in a systematic way. Intuitional scientists will be regarded as very service minded and welfare oriented persons of the future.
Even now much of thought in explaining spiritual philosophy links in with such things as theory of relativity, etc. The ability to put intuitional insight/practices into a scientific medium (whether explaining all the propensities associated with the heart chakra or whatever) will be a great boon for humanity. At present that science is scattered even though the yogic impact has had a great impact on the West since the 1950's. Probably earlier from about Vivekananda's time in the late 1890s.
Intuitional practices will increase tremendously in value and validity once discernable and present as a science.
Dieter
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 23:46:15 +1100
From: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: Need to know what to expect when I start K classes
Message-ID: <01BCE4CA.8F940320ATnospampppclient6.canberra.edu.au>
-----Original Message-----
From: Harsh K. Luthar [SMTP:hlutharATnospamresearch1.bryant.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 1997 5:30 AM
Dear friend:
Over the last 20 years, I have seen the words Kundalini and Chakras
become popular. There is much hype surrounding these concepts and often
people without much experience pose as experts and masters. If one can
find a genuine teacher and the pure teaching it helps.
[>]
Agree entirely. The effort to raise the kulakundalini [the divine energy in the base of the spine] is through internal meditation, while shattering the bondages of hatred, suspicion, fear, shyness, and so forth, by direct action is the external world (ie a service minded psychology). As part of the external fight one has to develop vigorous control over worldly conduct and expression, while in the internal fight one has to arouse and elevate his kundalini against crude thoughts with all the stamina of his intuition.
The well-controlled ascent of the kundalini brings uncommon wisdom and vigor. This blending of such a wisdom and vigor adorns a person with an attractive personality, sharp intelligence and unparalleled spirit.
Yelling and howling experiences are nothing to do with K. They are mere occult side effects due to imbalanced glandular and psychic structure. This is why all this is linked to the science of intution. Indeed it is a science to understand it fully - not just an emotional experience or outburst. That outburst or feeling may be pleasurable but it is only that in many cases. From my experience when the k rises the attraction to the Great is so immense that so much joy will flood the mind that no duality is present. That is bliss or ananda and is a totally different think to pleasure from senses or glandular emissions or the like.
The great masters
have said, Satsanga (keeping the company of wise people) is critical for
facilitating spiritual growth. Nothing much can be added to this advice.
[>] Most certainly, and that is why in social life one must also remove all dogma and philosophical defects. Discipline in social life is not dogma. Rejecting nonsense ideas is not dogma but instead refinement of human thought leading not just to analysis but synthesis of ideas for the welfare of all.
A true seeker should be skeptical of the glamor and show associated with
Kundalini teachers. A genuine arousal of the Kundalini Shakti takes one
into the superconscious realms. There are many symptoms and signs of
Kundalini awakening but they differ depending on the psychology and
physiology of the student.
[>] The presence of the ku'laku'n'd'alinii between the two lowest vertebra is the cause of the non-integral outlook of microcosms. That is why it has to be awakened from there. The moment the ku'laku' n'd'alinii starts rising upwards, the form and colour of this expressed universe, and the psychic thoughts of living beings, begin to change. When the ku'laku'n'd'alinii becomes one with Supreme Consciousness (ie moves past the 7th chakra - roughly speaking) all differentiation comes to an end, and the physical, psychic and causal factors within the microcosmic body are surrendered as offerings to God.
When ku'laku'ndalinii is separated from Supreme Consciousness it is the stage of diversity. That state of separation is the microcosmic state of unit mind ; the state of unification is the Macrocosmic state. The state of separation is the creation of so many fetters and propensities, and the state of unification is the metempirical state, that is the state beyond unit mind.
That is what rising of k is about. One does not focus on all the side effects of rising k. These are simply occult side effects and will be stronger for those with imbalance chakra, glandular and other symptons, due eg from meat eating diet or non-sattvik food such as onions and garlic (stimulants for the lower chakras).
[>] Of course while living in the world one cannot do so in a state of denial and so proper ideation is also essential and training fo the mind to see one's actions as God and within God is paramount. This is difficult minute per minute. Thus proper meditation at least twice a day is essential as a matter of habit cultivation.
Eating a pure sattvic diet, leading a
balanced emotional life, and the practice of meditation lead to deep
relaxation. This allows the arousal and manifestation of the divine
energy.
[>] Agree entirely.
Dieter
Harsh K. Luthar
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:32:24 -0500
From: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospamresearch1.bryant.edu>
To: Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toronto.on.ca>
CC: Tom Bradley <tombATnospamPhoneLink.COM>,
"kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Need to know what to expect when I start K classes
Message-ID: <345748F8.22B1ATnospamacad.bryant.edu>
Barbara Shinton wrote:
>
> Read Serpent of Fire - a modern view of kundalini.
> It describes positive and negative experiences.
>
>
I have a short 7 page paper on "Kundalini in the context of love and
sensuality" which I wrote some years ago. It addresses the issues
related to Kundalini awakening through Advanced practices of yoga and
Tantra. Different types of meditations and pranayamas are discussed in
terms of their effect. I would like to make it available on cyberspace,
Being new to this technology I do not know how to do it. I would
appreciate any help. The paper is authentic and based on my own
experience. My background is this: I started my spiritual practices in
Amritsar, India at the age of 7 and was a Hatha Yoga adept by 13. I
studied philosophy in college. My Kundalini experiences started in my
teen years. In my early twenties I started to teach yoga and meditation
and have done so for the last two decades. Unless I have seen something
in my mental vision or experienced it I do not write about it or discuss
it. Because of this the paper may be useful to many people.
Harsh K. Luthar
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:33:50 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: piercing the rudra knot
Message-ID: <1334005523-15344470ATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
As a help for the ignorant (me) could someone briefly explain this concept?
smooches,
amckeon
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:33:31 -0800
From: iri <iriATnospamivyrealty.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: left brain/right brain
Message-Id: <199710291632.IAA13289ATnospamwoohoo.erc.bc.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>Nancy wrote:
>
> My question...do kundalini awakened people have an integrated right
> brain/left brain?
>
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Well Nancy......i don't know the answer to your question.......
The following is a left brain/right brain questionaire that i received as
unsolicited e-mail.
stan
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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 20:03:41 -0500
Message-Id: <199710240103.UAA05920ATnospamservices.ciai.net>
To: hypno200ATnospamjuno.com
Subject: Left Brain / Right Brain QUESTIONAIRE
Reply-to: hypno200ATnospamciai.net
Comments: Authenticated sender is <hypno200ATnospamjuno.com>
X-UIDL: 84585969424841778383789976256987
Status:
_________________
L E F T B R A I N / R I G H T B R A I N - QUESTIONAIRE
_________________
My name is Gregory Raymond and I believe you are someone who is
interested in a successful lifestyle. By this I mean a balance of physical,
mental, spiritual and financial success. If we are of a like mind,
I thought you might be interested in taking the following brief,
revealing quiz. Simply [hit reply] then place an "X" in the appropriate
boxes where applicable, and send it to us.
Make certain you reply to: hypno200ATnospamjuno.com
______________________
I know and understand there are two parts to my mind, conscious
and sub-conscious (aka unconscious)
Yes [ ] - No [ ] - Didn't Know [ ]
I know the sub-conscious part of my mind labors 24 hours a day
(without sleeping) for my success or failure, without making any
moral judgements.
Yes [ ] - No [ ] - Didn't Know [ ]
I realize that by taking control of my subconscious mind, it's
energy can be harnessed to accomplish whatever I desire.
Yes [ ] - No [ ] - Didn't Know [ ]
I might be interested learning more about using my subconscious
mind to attain a successful balance of physical, mental, and
financial success.
Yes [ ] - No [ ] - Maybe [ ]
[ ] You have piqued my curiosity, and without any obligation, I would like
to learn more about achieving mental, physical and financial success.
[ ] I'm not interested in this ridiculous survey, and with my CONSCIOUS
MIND, I think that you're "Full Of It". Take me off your list and
never darken my E-Door again.
Thank you for your time.
Regards,
Gregory Raymond
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 12:02:46 -0500 (EST)
From: Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toronto.on.ca>
To: iri <iriATnospamivyrealty.com>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: left brain/right brain
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9710291139.A28514-0100000ATnospamsheppard>
That test only reaches people who access to it through books or internet.
Would that same test improve conditions for someone who had nothing to
begin with.
The thing that bugs me the most is, all this hype about success being
blamed on individuals who are not successful because they don't try. Most
millionare I hear about are born into it. Financial success comes mostly
to people who have early access to proper education about financial matters .
The odd case where someone make a million after coming out of poverty is
very rare indeed.
If your born with an overload of limitations so self imposed then
success is a fantacy.
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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:40:54 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: ieffendiATnospamprima.net.id
CC: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: HELP (Getting nut !)
Message-ID: <345704A4.43BATnospamintercomm.com>
Irmansyah wrote:
>
> Dear Gloria:
>
> Thanks a lot for the explanation. You gave me a lot of help when I
> first joined the list.
>
> Well, I don't have background on spiritual matter. Before meditating, I
> normally pray something like "Heavenly father, Jesus Christ, Holly
> Spirit, Mother Mary, please give me protection, guidance, and help.
> Thank you". That is all.
This is good, as your asking for protection also speak with your
heavenly father/mother as though talking to a friend. Do this out loud
so you can hear yourself, observe yourself in the process. This will
tell you a lot about yourself in regards to your thoughts and fears
about your relationship with God. It will also show your humility or
lack thereof. This conversation with God is what I believe to be a
missing link in the connection that can so easily be produced through
humility and consciousness. After you have this first deep connection
with God from your own need, love, intention, it will carry you in
deeper from that point on.
Then use the seed sound yam, which is eeeeeeaaaaaaammmmmmm. This will
take you into the heart center. Your purpose for becoming heart centered
is not just for a meditation, but it is for life. It does nothing to be
heart centered for a meditation if you can't hold it. So, it isn't about
should I be this or that or be focusing on this or that. The thing we
are doing is creating the self discipline for you to bring being
heartcentered your purpose for living and breathing, here and now. This
integrated being is your intention for this lifetime beyond anything
else. When you began to live this, sincerely, with soul intention, your
mediations will transform themself and you will naturally more on into
higher centers. But, this is grounding you into the here and now, so
that your becoming will move into being heartcentered, that means
directly connected to God in your day to day experience with memories
and inner knowledge being revealed to you every step of the way. I
empower you to do this. Gloria
>
> There is no exercise that I do. When there is time, I simply draw the
> attention to the heart. But, sometime it is quite confusing wether to
> draw attention to the heart, crown, or to the whole Self which is big.
>
> With love and light,
>
> Irman
>
> > Still focus your meditation on God, knowing God's Will for you. How do
> > you start your meditation? Tell me about what you are doing.
> > >
> > >
> > > ***************
> > >
> > >
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:43:53 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
CC: tariqasATnospamworld.std.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca,
heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Some thoughts
Message-ID: <34570557.1782ATnospamintercomm.com>
E Jason wrote:
>
> Sum thoughts:
> (Most of them should add up)
Gloria here;
This is quite true, it is in the movement of spirit, the being that the
becoming is manifest. In other words in the sharing integration thats
place and the self is lost and union is found.
>
> THE SHARING
>
> Once upon a time before such things existed, there was God knows what. Of course there
> was no knowing of non-perfection. This required something else. We are that something
> else, created with the opportunity denied Perfection; to separate and find Union.
>
> GRADUATION
>
> Through the movement into manifestation the awareness is shrouded by attachment to
> manifestation, instead of the cause. The cause and manifestation are indeed One. Our
> experience calls for a gradual and steady movement back to causation, increasing in full
> awareness.
> There is no duality in manifestation, only in experience. People may be aware of the
> cause with a great deal of unraveling still needed, or they may have done much
> preparation and yet not have the experience of Oneness.
> It is possible to increase in the experience of the Oneness (move closer to it).
>
> MEANS
>
> Developing the potential and best attributes of our being involves integration. Learning
> from others provides the potential for finding the most appropriate Way to the core of
> our Being. People find the means reflective of their own inner state. We may need
> something else, this is what we must each find . . .
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 13:07:15 -0500
From: "Ed Arrons" <eeaATnospamaug.com>
To: "E Jason" <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>, <tariqasATnospamworld.std.com>,
<kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, <jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca>,
<heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com>
Subject: Re: Some thoughts
Message-Id: <199710291808.NAA10115ATnospamsandia.aug.com>
>Developing the potential and best attributes of our being involves
integration. Learning
from others provides the potential for finding the most appropriate Way to the
core of
our Being. People find the means reflective of their own inner state. We may
need
something else, this is what we must each find . . .>
The Realm of Joy;
Enter the Realm of Joy and all things will be added unto you.
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 18:13:38 -0000
From: Paul Fallon <pawlATnospamfirstnet.co.uk>
To: "'Dieter Dambiec'" <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au>,
"'k-list'"
<kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: Why strange ideas
Message-ID: <01BCE497.E1200D20ATnospamjarama8.legend.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Sorry for responding sooner, Dieter. I'm finding it hard to deal with the volume of mail.
>From the intersection of my tangential postneohumanist and suckonthis perspectives I'd like to point right out that Scorn doesn't *have* to be there. No but hey, vive la difference. Must admit it may be a tempting shape to throw sometimes. Speaking of which, where do you get off with that creaking link between sick Hitler and renaissance List Mystress? Hilarious but objectionable. Her input and influence is held in the highest regard and Her service gives shape to the borders of our million flowers blooming.
Pawl
-----Original Message-----
From: Dieter Dambiec [SMTP:d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au]
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 1997 3:01 PM
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: 'kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'
Subject: RE: Why strange ideas
Dieter wrote and Pawl snipped:
[>] Scorn has to be there. >
> scorn > evil. BDSM > murder millions in the process> there is a right way and that is the way of good. > Hitler > swastika > yogi 7,000 > spiritual victory > twisted > greed for power. Similarly, I note a tendency of some to use the symbol of kundalini (ie the serpent) in the same opposite way (ie for evil) as Hitler did (ie as a symbol of dominance over slaves) and indeed to attach to their names.
[>] Undoubtedly Hitler was sick. You're notions of kundalini are equally as ignorant.
[>] DD
·
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:47:32 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospamresearch1.bryant.edu>
CC: Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toronto.on.ca>,
Tom Bradley <tombATnospamPhoneLink.COM>,
"kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Need to know what to expect when I start K classes
Message-ID: <34570632.2D92ATnospamintercomm.com>
Welcome Harsh, my name is Gloria. Check out my homepage and we can
share. There are a lot of computer experts on the list, someone will
come forward and tell you how to do it. Do you have a homepage? It is
easier if you do then people can go there to read what you wish to
share.
Harsh K. Luthar wrote:
>
>
>
> I have a short 7 page paper on "Kundalini in the context of love and
> sensuality" which I wrote some years ago. It addresses the issues
> related to Kundalini awakening through Advanced practices of yoga and
> Tantra. Different types of meditations and pranayamas are discussed in
> terms of their effect. I would like to make it available on cyberspace,
> Being new to this technology I do not know how to do it. I would
> appreciate any help. The paper is authentic and based on my own
> experience. My background is this: I started my spiritual practices in
> Amritsar, India at the age of 7 and was a Hatha Yoga adept by 13. I
> studied philosophy in college. My Kundalini experiences started in my
> teen years. In my early twenties I started to teach yoga and meditation
> and have done so for the last two decades. Unless I have seen something
> in my mental vision or experienced it I do not write about it or discuss
> it. Because of this the paper may be useful to many people.
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> Harsh K. Luthar
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