1997/10/29 01:07
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #718
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 718
Today's Topics:
Re: Scientific Pantheism [ "jh2owbmATnospammoa.net" <jh2owbmATnospammoa.net> ]
RE: Enlightened Ego? [ Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.c ]
RE: Why strange ideas [ Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.c ]
Re: The twittering of a bird [ BedawnedATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Enlightened Ego? [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
Re: twittering bird [ BedawnedATnospamaol.com ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON. ]
Manifesting [ PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Rita <RitaG39ATnospamix.netcom.com> ]
prayer request, thank you, and again [ Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: Intellectualizing [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toro ]
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:11:33 -0500
From: "jh2owbmATnospammoa.net" <jh2owbmATnospammoa.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Scientific Pantheism
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971028161130.007ae2a0ATnospamatlas.moa.net>
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At 02:04 AM 10/28/1997, you wrote:
>At 12:30 PM 10/27/97 -0500, David Ubico wrote:
>>valerian wrote:
>>> But the schism between reason and religion is dangerous. The
>>> religious area helps to shelter or
>>> incubate other, political or racial kinds of unreason and other
>>> refusals to confront reality and
>>> evidence. We need to end the divide. We need a fully rational
>>> religion that is open to reality and
>>> evidence. That religion is pantheism.
>>
Or to put it another way,
"We don't need no stinkin religions." :)
Religion, love is religion. What more could almighty ask for
than sons and daughters to love each other. And in that they also love
Him/Her.
Love
John Halonen
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 00:43:41 +1100
From: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: "'kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: Enlightened Ego?
Message-ID: <01BCE447.59E19C20ATnospampppclient5.canberra.edu.au>
-----Original Message-----
From: anandajyoti [SMTP:anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 1997 3:19 PM
Yes , One can go back to the Source, not the beginning as you may phrase it.
[>] And to achieve that then logically its seems sensible that one must transcend the relativities of time, place/form and person.
> Dieter>No cause exists in respect of the Cosmic Mind, for no active entity ever had existed before the Cosmic Mind came into being.
Anandajyoti> Cosmic Mind has a cause, but if you say Cosmic Consciousness, then it would be different. There is no entity in the final sense, as all is One. There is no other to compare with.
[>] Ok accept that if Cosmic Mind means attributional expression and Cosmic Consciousness is non-attributional.
> Dieter>To look for an answer to this question as to why and how the Cosmic Mind came into being, will involve the fallacy of infinite regress, for none can enjoy the witness-ship of or vouch for, the birth of the Attributional Universe.
Anandajyoti> There is an answer when you are IT, not in the space -time existence.
[>]
And then there would not be a you and IT duality.
> Dieter>That which is apparently the transformation of Brahma, takes place entirely within 'Him'. All these changeable objects are created, preserved and destroyed right within Him. But Brahma (Non-attributional stance) cannot be traced back to a beggining. As everything takes place within Brahma, that is why the sages said, "He is you and you are He."
Anandajyoti> Brahma is a deity. Brahman is uncaused cause according to Vedanta Philosophy.Hope the list members can ponder on these themselves and know, if they so choose.
[>] I use Brahma in the philosophical sense. Brahma as a deity I have no interest in. If you have an Indian background (which it seems you have - Bengali maybe) then yes you would probably culturally assess Brahma as a diety. But as I don't have such cultural upbringing my only understanding of Brahma is a philsophical concept to explain spiritual philosophy.
As mentioned I have no interest in deities - seems to me too much to do with worship of thunder and lightening which human consciousness has moved well beyond as an explanator of the universe. So in any of my posts I am never referring to deities unless I may specifically mention that as the case. Just thought I would make that clear.
Thanks
[>]
Dieter
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 00:43:44 +1100
From: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: "'kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: Why strange ideas
Message-ID: <01BCE447.5C23EB00ATnospampppclient5.canberra.edu.au>
-----Original Message-----
From: anandajyoti [SMTP:anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 1997 3:50 PM
To: Dieter Dambiec
Cc: 'kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com'
Subject: Re: Why strange ideas
Dieter Dambiec wrote:
> [>] Neo-humanism implies welfare for all ..... Spirituality implies welfare for all, ..then] - but kids are smart!!). [>] Spirituality can't be divorced from cardinal human values... and other like principles.
Anandajyoti> It makes me ponder that have we yet become the real human yet?Neo-humanistic is a far cry for me.
Anandajyoti>
In this new society based on Neo-Humanism every person will find his/her life worth living. All persons will get back the positions of honour.
We should forget all our errors of the past. We have a bright future - the crimson light of that future is breaking through the dark horizon of the present. We must welcome it - there is no alternative but to welcome it. When we are in a mood of pleasure, we should distribute it throughout the universe - let all the hearts of the entire created universe dance in ecstasy. This is the goal of the day: we are for all, we are for the Neo-Humanistic progress of the entire universe. PR Sarkar April 26 1984, Ranchi (A Few Problems Solved, Part 3)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:09:03 -0500 (EST)
From: BedawnedATnospamaol.com
To: UweJohannATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The twittering of a bird
Message-ID: <971028170902_1102358777ATnospammrin45.mail.aol.com>
Dear Uwe;
Your thoughts read like a poem.
<<My past beliefs turned upside down
am I incredulous?>>
You are credulous so that your heart is open to the possibilty of the good,
true, and beautiful seeping into every crevice of your being. You are
skeptical lest you be rendered foolish. That's what kundalini awakening did
for me. I try to find a balance in my credulity and skepticism.
<<My meters of books, I read, dont attract me more,
> am I'm going to be unscientific?>>
There was a point in my awakening where I thought I would never read again.
Everything seemed to take on so much meaning as I read that I couldn't
endure it. But I read again. Science is just a mode for knowing, a method
for discriminating what's possible and what's not, a way to explain the
world. But our senses and intuition, our traditions all define the world for
us as well.
<<My constraint to explain everything is lost,
> am I indifferent?>>
Who'll ever live long enough to explain everything? Indifference is born of
apathy. How can one remain indifferent when there are so many who are so in
need of love, compassion, understanding. Indifference subsides as the heart
reaches beyond its own self.
<<I throwed away any philosophy,
am I a nihilist?>>
I turn the question back on you. Are you a nihilist? Is God dead? Are you
the madman in Nietzsche's fable screaming that God is dead? Kundalini
connects you with a God larger than imaginable. God is in me, in you, in all
life, in the thing and in the shadow of the thing. Martin Luther King, Jr.
said that "we are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tined in a
single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly affects all
indirectly." The nihilist believes he is a single thread alone unconnected,
the garment is an illusion. I think the nihilist massages an illusion
believing he is so removed.
<<I must laugh sometimes groundless, fore the fun of my children and my wife,
>I must cry sometimes, groundless, but I try to do it silently,
> am I'm going grazy?>>
Meditate. Or find a quiet place alone and exhaust the energy that compels
laughter ungrounded. Watch a tear jerking movie and give yourself a reason
to cry. These things helped me.
<<>No... I feel a very strong certainty in my, and I feel a very depth love
to
>my family, and lot of other people, they don't know..... and I feel the less
>I try to manipulate everthing the better things go on.... my struggle
against >the unlogical, unscientific and unintelectual is decreasing..... now
a >twittering of a bird tells me more than some killobytes of a wise repeated
>text.>>
I had this experience with a cat and a hummingbird. I'll see if I can dig up
the poem I wrote about it.
Yours, Melissa
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:55:39 -0800
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
To: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Enlightened Ego?
Message-ID: <34566D66.61688D3CATnospamgeocities.com>
Dieter Dambiec wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: anandajyoti [SMTP:anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com]
> Dieter>....... only understanding of Brahma is a philsophical concept to explain spiritual philosophy.
>
> . Just thought I would make that clear.
>
Anandajyoti> Language is but means of communicating ideas, which are intangible. The word Brahma and Brahman are two philosophical concepts.
I usually try to use it in the proper context.
I appreciate your sharing your views, and I understand now, the context through which you frequently use the word Brahma, many who know the difference may get confused, though.
Regards,
Anandajyoti
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 18:15:43 -0500 (EST)
From: BedawnedATnospamaol.com
To: UweJohannATnospamaol.com
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: twittering bird
Message-ID: <971028180242_458436048ATnospamemout11.mail.aol.com>
Dear Uwe;
I couldn't find my nature poem, but I found another that I wrote during an
intense period of my kundalini awakening. I had just been rereading Goethe's
Faust and a collection of aphorisms written by him. I was thinking about it
while pumping gas at the Texaco station. I went inside to pay and the
cashier was a resident alien from Germany. I figured Europeans are
classically educated, and mentioned my reading of Goethe to him. Hah, he
scoffed. He was disenchanted with his classical education having had it
effectively crammed down his throat. He was a very cynical post-modern type
thinker.
Some customers came in and I watched how he dealt with them. He was charming
and witty. Every customer left smiling. He brightened everyone's life he
had the chance to touch, the middle-aged, heavy browed woman to the burly
truck driver (who by the way, he asked in jest if he needed a hug! ;) The
man was a delight. When we were alone again, he told me his difficulties in
America. How you can't meet an American without someone bringing up the
Nazis. People actually asked him if he was a Nazi. Absurd! He'd worked in
all sorts of circumstances, even on the poorest of American Indian
reservations in California. Even the Indians tormented him about the Nazis.
But he liked America. He liked the opportunities before him and planned to
attend college in Phoenix, Arizona, buck up on computer technology, then
return to Germany and begin a family life, and hopefully a business.
His story thrilled me, and more than that affirmed for me the dignity of
every human being. I went home and wrote this poem for him, even though it
was his last night working at the gas station and I'd never see him again.
The metaphors tend to be esoteric since not everyone appreciates Goethe, but
I thought you might appreciate it.
Modern Goethe in America
Modern Goethe flees the shadow
of Mephistopheles
to a Land of Promises
kept and broken.
Seeking redemption he takes up the challenge
of the alien on the outside of culture.
Striving against the shadow
he forges a path
to the inside.
Instead of earthquaking poetry He offers music
to those fire-hungry people on the Inside.
His song is strange and wonderful
chasing away shadows of Nazis
looming in the minds
of Natives.
Pilgrims unaware gravitate towards the symphony
of his soul so helplessly and innocently--
refreshed and cooled by the fervor
and passion of the music
that is his gift.
His audience, a nation of secret desperates,
parts the Sea of Culture for him
like ten thousand
drunken Moses'
Offering him a bright dignity and hope
that he dreams of carrying home
to Germany to flood
every dark corner--
Exorcizing the shadow.
Yours, Melissa
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:26:11 -0800
From: Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
Cc: marcvATnospamxs4all.nl, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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At 11:27 AM 10/28/97 +0100, Gloria Greco wrote:
>Marc Verkoelen wrote:
>>
>> Hello, my name is Marc,
>> After months of meditating i had an experience of kundalini.
>> In the begining it was a nice experience,but later i had terrible
>> pains in my back and i became to a certain extend psychotic.
>> Because of these terrible pains i went to the doctor and he gave me
>> antipsychotica.I want to know if this is an right treatment.
>> Im so afraid of the pains and antipsychotica helps me with my pains.
>> Please react and thank you for reading.
>
>--
>Gloria wrote:
>Marc,
> If you are considering entering deeper in this relationship with
>kundalini and you run off to a doctor because of a little discomfort, it
>is best for you not to invite activation of kundalini.
Dear Marc,
"Running off to the doctor" is not a bad thing to do. I do it frequently
myself - both my MD and my psychiatrist. We need to take care of our
vehicles. Since we do not know what your doctor knows, please follow his
advise or seek second opinions from appropriate sources.
I do agree with Gloria's point that it may be better for you to deal with
unresolved issues you may have before seeking any sort of extreme
experiences - especially K.
Best Wishes,
Ken
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 19:02:35 -0500 (EST)
From: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Manifesting
Message-ID: <971028190234_1402495772ATnospammrin42.mail.aol.com>
I am forwarding Rita's email because I am sure it was meant for the entire
list. Like Rita, I have also been very curious about the Vedantic (same as
Vedic?) Hindus ever since I read a book on comparative religions which said
it was the only religion that offered the combination of 1) not worshipping a
particular personality, 2) requiring no self denegration, 3) not requiring
allegiance to a group, and 4) not requiring adherence to church protocols.
In a message dated 97-10-28 09:49:25 EST, ritag39ATnospamix.netcom.com writes:
<< For years I've wanted to explain some of the experiences I have had, with
the hope to understand the phenomenon with greater depth. I would like to
know if there is a Vedic philosophy that gives a name or reference to a
state of consciousness that when a desire is made, at the moment the
thought surfaces in the conscious mind it becomes manifest?
I would like to describe an experience, for the purpose of sharing a
realization of a characteristic of this state. I had experienced many
times during the night, an awakening within myself, while my body slept.
Sometimes, the kundalini was quiet, and other times very vibrant with
great energy. In the beginning, I thought there may have been a presence
about me, but I think that the things that manifested came from within
me. I wasn't meditating yet, so I went to a Paster of a church to explain
the witnessing state I was experiencing at night. He was so
understanding, and softly gave me some advise. He told me that if I
should awaken within myself again, like I had explained to him, to ask
God for a vision. I left with a sense of well being.
I'm not sure how much time had gone by before it occurred again. I was in
a state of consciousness that I am not sure what it is called. But, I
know there is no awareness of body, or sound, only the self. Then, I had
the thought of a vision. But, it was as if I witnessed the thought rising
from the source of where thoughts might come from. The very instant the
thought began to rise, the desire became manifested! Before me, as real
as all life I have known, a woman in white was holding a beautiful baby
reaching her arms out to me. She walked closer, as if to give me the baby
to hold. I remember the beauty of the smiling baby. Then, as instantly as
it manifested, it also ended. I was suddenly back to the normal waking
state. I have no more fear in the waking of the kundalini, if this is
what it is, and with your faith in God, your fears shall also be washed
away.
Sincerely,
Rita>>
---------------------
Forwarded message:
From: ritag39ATnospamix.netcom.com
To: PeglumpkinATnospamaol.com
Date: 97-10-28 09:49:25 EST
On 10/26/97 17:48:31 you wrote:
>
>In a message dated 97-10-26 12:24:13 EST, you write:
>
><< Thank you for taking the time to read this. This is my first time on
this
> web page, and I hope to share more experience some time. >>
>
>Dear Rita,
>
>Thank YOU for taking the time to write this, and welcome. Your
experience
>was so familiar. You're in the right place.
>
>Peg
>
>
For years I've wanted to explain some of the experiences I have had, with
the hope to understand the phenomenon with greater depth. I would like to
know if there is a Vedic philosophy that gives a name or reference to a
state of consciousness that when a desire is made, at the moment the
thought surfaces in the conscious mind it becomes manifest?
I would like to describe an experience, for the purpose of sharing a
realization of a characteristic of this state. I had experienced many
times during the night, an awakening within myself, while my body slept.
Sometimes, the kundalini was quiet, and other times very vibrant with
great energy. In the beginning, I thought there may have been a presence
about me, but I think that the things that manifested came from within
me. I wasn't meditating yet, so I went to a Paster of a church to explain
the witnessing state I was experiencing at night. He was so
understanding, and softly gave me some advise. He told me that if I
should awaken within myself again, like I had explained to him, to ask
God for a vision. I left with a sense of well being.
I'm not sure how much time had gone by before it occurred again. I was in
a state of consciousness that I am not sure what it is called. But, I
know there is no awareness of body, or sound, only the self. Then, I had
the thought of a vision. But, it was as if I witnessed the thought rising
from the source of where thoughts might come from. The very instant the
thought began to rise, the desire became manifested! Before me, as real
as all life I have known, a woman in white was holding a beautiful baby
reaching her arms out to me. She walked closer, as if to give me the baby
to hold. I remember the beauty of the smiling baby. Then, as instantly as
it manifested, it also ended. I was suddenly back to the normal waking
state. I have no more fear in the waking of the kundalini, if this is
what it is, and with your faith in God, your fears shall also be washed
away.
Sincerely,
Rita
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:17:47 -1000 (HST)
From: Rita <RitaG39ATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199710290217.QAA22169ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
Hello everyone,
It has been wonderful reading and sharing experiences with everyone on
this list.
For years I've wanted to explain some of the experiences I have had,
with the hope to understand the phenomenon with greater depth. I would
like to know if there is a Vedic philosophy that gives a name or reference
to a state of consciousness that when a desire is made, at the memont the
thought surfaces in the conscious mind it becomes manifest?
I would like to describe an experience, for the purpose of sharing a
realization of a characteristic of this state. I had experience many
times during the night, an awakening within myself, while my body
slept. Sometimes, the kundalini was quiet, and other times very vibrant
with great energy. In the beginning, I thought there may have been a
presence about me, but I think that the things that manifested came
from within me. I wasn't meditating yet, so I went to a Paster of a
church to explain the witnessing state I was experiencing at night. He
was so understanding, and softly gave me some advise. He told me that if
I should awaken within myself again, like I had explained to him, to ask God
for a vision. I left with a sense of well being.
I'm not sure how much time had gone by before it occurred again. I was
in a state of consciousness that I am not sure what it is called. But,
I know there is no awareness of body, or sound, only the self. Then,
I had the thought of a vision. But, it was as if I witnessed the thought
rising from the source of where thoughts might come from. The very instant
the thought began to rise, the desire became manifested! Before, me, as
real as all life I have known, a woman in white was holding a beautiful
baby reaching her arms out to me. She walked closer, as if to give me the
baby to hold. I remember the beauty of the smiling baby. Then, as
instantly as it manifested, it also ended. I was suddenly back to the
normal waking state. I have no more fear in the waking of the kundalini,
if this is what it is, and with your faith in God, your fears shall also
be washed away.
Sincerely,
Rita
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 19:24:17 -0800
From: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: prayer request, thank you, and again?
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971028171800.00bf5b8cATnospampop.sonic.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Thanks to everyone who helped send light and help to my elderly friend
Rolande.
The miracle seems to have happened. She has now been off methadone for
about 5 weeks and is doing fine. Had some 'withdrawals', and still a
little, but not serious.
Now it's installment II of the miracle, I guess. She is (in similar seeming
'accident') forced to do without her arthritis pain medication. So she is
trying to learn to deal with the pain by psychic/kundalini energy. She has
had times (up to 2 days) suddenly pain-free after doing various psychic
things, but it's not dependable yet.
Something to do with her own knowledge of how to open her own energy
channels....?
Anyway, her thanks and mine for the help last month, and more would be much
appreciated....!
In love and light,
Mary
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 20:22:16 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
CC: marcvATnospamxs4all.nl, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-ID: <34563B68.272AATnospamintercomm.com>
Ken McFarland wrote:
>
> At 11:27 AM 10/28/97 +0100, Gloria Greco wrote:
> >Marc Verkoelen wrote:
> >>
> >
>
> Dear Marc, From Ken
>
> "Running off to the doctor" is not a bad thing to do. I do it frequently
> myself - both my MD and my psychiatrist. We need to take care of our
> vehicles. Since we do not know what your doctor knows, please follow his
> advise or seek second opinions from appropriate sources.
>
> I do agree with Gloria's point that it may be better for you to deal with
> unresolved issues you may have before seeking any sort of extreme
> experiences - especially K.
Gloria, Exactly my point. Prepare first and then it won't be such as
hassle.
>
>
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 20:28:18 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: RitaG39ATnospamix.netcom.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-ID: <34563CD2.129EATnospamintercomm.com>
Rita wrote:
>
>
> I'm not sure how much time had gone by before it occurred again. I was
> in a state of consciousness that I am not sure what it is called. But,
> I know there is no awareness of body, or sound, only the self. Then,
> I had the thought of a vision. But, it was as if I witnessed the thought
> rising from the source of where thoughts might come from. The very instant
> the thought began to rise, the desire became manifested! Before, me, as
> real as all life I have known, a woman in white was holding a beautiful
> baby reaching her arms out to me. She walked closer, as if to give me the
> baby to hold. I remember the beauty of the smiling baby. Then, as
> instantly as it manifested, it also ended. I was suddenly back to the
> normal waking state. I have no more fear in the waking of the kundalini,
> if this is what it is, and with your faith in God, your fears shall also
> be washed away.
>
>Gloria:
That was a beautiful experience that says you have help with your
awakening. Take it as a gift and follow that inner knowing and it will
be a marvelous inner journey. God Bless.
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 18:19:22
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: acarreATnospamconcentric.net
Cc: NancyATnospamwtp.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Intellectualizing
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19971028181922.0e2fc164ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
I used to test out about 95% creative, verrry little logic. Someone sent
me a program, a year ago, to test hemisphere balance, and I came out almost
perfectly centered. What a surprise! I still have a really hard time
finishing logic puzzles, tho.
If anyone would like a copy of the program, I think it's shareware...
brain.exe.. takes a few minutes to download.. I'll send it on request..
virus scanned by McAfeee...
Blessings, Mystress.
At 03:46 28/10/97 -0500, acarre wrote:
>Nancy wrote:
>
>> My question...do kundalini awakened people have an integrated right
>> brain/left brain?
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
:D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at
different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing.
-- Clive James
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 18:15:05
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toronto.on.ca>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19971028181505.0e2ffb0aATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
At 13:35 28/10/97 -0500, Barbara Shinton wrote:
>Meditation opens up the chakras, allowing Kundalini to rise up and heal.
>When she runs into blocks(pain) it hurts. Numbing the pain is useless. It
>has to be released somewhere. Continual blockage causes mental problems,
>anxiety. The process once started can be a long one, We grow through pain
>whether we like it not.
>
So we might as well learn to like it!!
3 cheers for submissive maschochists.. !!
For they are graced to grow at lightspeed, they are not afraid of pain!!
They welcome it with pleasure, and ask for more, please, Goddess.. and
their prime directive is sevice and humility.
Blessings, Mystress.
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
:D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at
different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing.
-- Clive James
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 00:07:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toronto.on.ca>
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9710290050.A6729-0100000ATnospamqueen>
Yes the pain is incredibly bad at times but when the light shines through
& were happy again life is great.
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