1997/10/10 09:48
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #507
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 507
Today's Topics:
SYDA (fwd)
Energy...i.e. Shakti
Paradigms Shifting
re: Abundance of insight in India
Re: Energy
Good/Bad Vibes
Re: Kundalini Joy Spot
Re: Taoist Yoga
Re: Taoist Yoga
Re: Taoist Yoga
Re: Taoist Yoga
Vibrations/Energy
Taoist Yoga and Reiki
Re: Unidentified subject!
Negative Energy Field
Re: Good/Bad Vibes
chakras and radionics
So Far
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 23:40:33 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: SYDA (fwd)
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Thanks for the reference to the SYDA URL I have checked it out and found
some lovely clear pictures of the lineage of Baba Nityananda, Baba
Muktanand and Gurumayi Chidvilasananda... if anyone wishes to have these.
Won't cost you a dime!
http://www.syda.org/lineage.html
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 00:04:55 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Energy...i.e. Shakti
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Hi Gordon: So you work for Boeing... hmm. and you are asking what energy
is on the Kundalini list and perhaps seek a definition?
You say: >>>When we talk
about Kundalini or the Holy Spirit as being energy flows, we surely mean
more than power. Power without guidance is pretty useless. In fact most
of us, if we could use more of anything, could use more guidance for the
energy we have. >>>
Indeed.. our language does not adequately encompass what we are talking
about but somehow on this list... we know wht it is. I wonder if you feel
that guidance is something you get from outside yourself.. I hope not..
because there is only one source of guidance...true guidance is from
within. The trick is to clean up the mind of its moods, blues, dreams,
fantasies, glamor, and so forth so that when you look inside for this
inspiration and help.. you get clear guidance. This is not easy always,
however, as that can be messed up by interferences... mean spirits, ugly
relatives, past lives haunting one etc.
>>..
Do we really mean spirit, or life, or soul, or
intellegance, or mind, or God or something like that, when we say energy -
something with purpose, not just power?
>>
EXACTLY .,. you sort of have it exactly!ATnospam Grin!
In Sanskrit there is a word for it SHAKTI... but in English there is not
only no equivalent word, but in my experience, no equivalent experience to
match it to a word. But I think it is more like electricity than
anything.. only the source of the energy/electricity is inside and it can
be directed by you.
Personally I call it my ENLIGHTENED WILL. I know of no better more
accurate term for it than this.... in my universe. But I cannot convey
what that is to you since unless you have experienced it.. it is merely
words on a page. Thereby lies the dilemma of language.. for unless a
people has experience of something they cannot name it. So that must be
why English has only a few ways of expressing love...adoration, worship,
infatuation.. but no where near as many as in Sanskirt.. which has words
of all kinds of different experiences of love and bliss that we cannot
even dream of... So we come back to "power" and "energy" and the
realization that our experience of the world has changed in the past 30
years but our language is lagging far far behind. That is the state of the
situation of our words.. and that is why it is going to be hard to help
you much with it.
>>>
Vibrations are like that also. Vibration is what you
get when you hit a tin plate with a spoon. Is that what we mean, when we
sense someones vibs?
Gordon
>>>>
If you have to ask.. I am not sure that you can understand the answer.
I guess I will let someone else explain this -- as a child of the 60's I
just assumed everyone understood... but I guess not.
Now who can explain vibes?
Ruth
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 00:12:41 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Paradigms Shifting
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Hi List:
Since I believe that having had a Kundalini awakening, you are well on the
way to becoming an evolved and hate to say it... MUTANT .. human being,
could some of you give me some pointers for a discussion I am going to
lead on the paradigm shifts of the 20th Cent. and how to incorporate these
into the 21st Century in society and science.. as we teach it at the
university and college level? Somewhat of a mouthfull... But simply
speaking.. what changesdo you think professors of today can make to meet
the challenges of the world of tomorrow? How can we prepare for these
changes? What should we be thinking about?
I am really up for integrating spiritual/soul issues into all fields of
science and humanities.. but can't present it this way YET... any ideas?
Ruth
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Everytime one realizes something of the truth, there is a dance in the
heart. The heart is the only testimony for the truth. (Osho)
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 06:31:14 +0000
From: Nancy <NancyATnospammagiccity.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: sashanakaATnospamaismi.ais.it
Subject: re: Abundance of insight in India
Message-ID: <343DCBB0.7B03ATnospammagiccity.com>
> What is happenning today is the path towards perfection. India needs
> to learn a lot about material development and has a lot of spiritual
> truths to give the world in return.
This reminds me of Swami Vivekananda's dream...to pass on eastern
spiritual wisdom of the west and in return bring material comfort to the
east. I wonder if we're getting any closer to this ideal...
Namaste,
Nancy
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 07:00:34 +0000
From: Nancy <NancyATnospammagiccity.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Energy
Message-ID: <343DD28D.298DATnospammagiccity.com>
I have an idea for you, Gordon. Imagine that energy doesn't exist.
Energy, like all concepts which we use to define this world, are just
helpful references. Once we embrace a concept, we start seeing example
of the concept made manifest. Then we say, "See, it exists."
So if energy doesn't make sense in reference to kundalini, "vibes,"
etc., put the concept aside.
For me, the term energy is the most approximate descriptiion of the
dynamics of the unseen. I still don't know about kundalini (which
according to some means I haven't probably experienced this), but I do
know about surges that go through my spine. These feel like a mild
electrical shock. Describing this as energy fits for me.
I'm also realizing that I'm picking up information from unseen sources.
For example, my dreams often predict future events. It's not deja vu
experiences. It's more that I encounter people in my dreams and they
express their situation to me. (As a recent example, a woman I know who
was trying to sell her business came to me in a dream crying. We
embraced and she shared that her offer had fell through and she was
going to close up. I saw her in person a week later and shared my dream.
She still wasn't sure if the sale would go through. Yesterday she told
me the sale is off.) It's my belief that we experience life on an energy
level (maybe like a dress rehersal?) before we experience it on earth.
Again, describing this as an energy level is the most accurate
description for me.
I used to think energy was divine life force, i.e. love. Now I think
thatenergy is neutral. It is the force used for expression and creation.
I believe love exists in the space between energy. It's just like music
and writing. Neither can exist without space. Without a breath between
the notes, music would be one continuious sound. Without the white of
the paper, words would be a blob. The space between helps give us define
"energy."
In terms of "vibes" from others, this refers to understanding some
unseen dimension of a person. We've all enountered people who appear
pleasant and cooperative, yet the hairs on the back of our neck raise.
How do we know there is something amiss? Again, it's that unseen,
"energy" dimension.
Once again, I am dismayed at the ability to communicate these concepts
with mere words. They make so much sense to me until I try to explain. :
}
Namaste,
Nancy
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:19:51 -0400
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx)
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Good/Bad Vibes
Message-ID: <19971010.091952.3526.3.imtgATnospamjuno.com>
Gordon asked:
<< Is that what we mean, when we sense someones vibs? >>
I used to ask the same question. Had a friend several years ago who
would meet a person and say ''oooooo this person has such good/bad
vibes..... i gotta get away from them! (or get to know them better)''.
I really thought she was *seeing* something beyond the physical. This
is someone who led huge seminars on spirituality issues.
After getting to know her better and becoming a very close friend, I saw
she was picking up vibes from a personality standpoint - she was a Type A
personality. When she would meet someone that was of the same type (a
rather strong assertive personality), she would get *bad* vibes from
them and automatically not like them nor try to get to know them because
of their vibes. I noticed all the B type personalities (easy-going,
get-along-with-everyone type) to her would give her*good* vibes. They
are the ones that would follow, rather than ask questions. (of course, I
am a B and .... duhhhh, became her best friend) LOL....
So since then, I have been rather skeptical regarding the word 'vibes'.
Now I see it more as 'This person is just not to my liking, my
personality type'. The same goes for rooms or homes we visit. I don't
see it so much as vibes, but as preferences.
I could be wrong on this, as this is just MHO.
I finally had to leave this relationship because she had bad vibes.....
LOL
xxxtg the easygoing follower
"One good turn gets most of the blanket."
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html <~~~~ on the web now!
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:50:11 -0400
From: Lisa_FerberATnospamcondenast.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini Joy Spot
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Please remove me from the mailing list. Thanks very much.
Lisa Ferber
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:26:08 -0500
From: jeannegATnospamicon.net (Jeanne Garner)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Taoist Yoga
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Tom,
>I view with interest the appearance of the machines that can put someone in
an appropriate brainwave state, and I think reinforcement of these states by
use of biofeedback training might be a useful avenue to explore.
Some years ago, I bought one of these devices to help with some "killer"
headaches I'd been having--migraines that lasted sometimes for days. It
helped a lot, but there was also a nice side effect: after using it for
awhile (several months, not always regularly), all I had to do was to sort
of remember the state I reached when the headache would start to lift--and I
had the same effects, without hooking myself up to the goggles and
headphones. Not unlike a meditation mantra--just thinking the mantra I use
will almost automatically move me into a meditative state.
BTW, the headaches have gone away, totally. I'm not certain if it was a
change in my lifestyle (including diet), my Reiki clases, or if it was a
cycle of some sort that is now complete. Whatever, gee, I'm glad of it!
Jeanne
==-* My stars!
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:33:13 -0400
From: Lisa_FerberATnospamcondenast.com
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Subject: Re: Taoist Yoga
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Please remove me from mailing list.
Lisa Ferber
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:37:56 -0400
From: Lisa_FerberATnospamcondenast.com
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Subject: Re: Taoist Yoga
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Please take me off the mailing list.
Lisa Ferber
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:41:44 -0400
From: Lisa_FerberATnospamcondenast.com
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Subject: Re: Taoist Yoga
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Please take me off the mailing list.
Lisa Ferber
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:53:32 -0500
From: FIute <FIuteATnospamprodigy.net>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Vibrations/Energy
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I saw that someone was asking about vibrations and energy. ok.. here's
Flute's explanation that I use in my Reiki Classes.(with mis spelling)
Have you ever seen the scientific drawing of an atom. You have a center
(nuculus) surrounded by two other units (a proton and a neutron -
(positive and negative). (there is scientific proof of another element
in the form, but I don't have the specifics yet.. (The Physics Major, I
usually talk with is out of my area right now.)but anyway..
This movement in the Atom created the movement for the growth and a cell
to divide.. When it divides there is more movement or a vibration.
Everyhing has this movement. A human body has 1.4 volts in each cell,
and has about a qudrillion cells.. so we are batteries.. But all of life
has the same DNA of electrical beginnings. Everything is movement and
the movement is vibrations.. Vibrations of the cells determine what the
structure is formed into. A mountain (slower vibrations), Fire (fast
vibrations) or sound (vibrations that you can feel as waves or throbing
within your eardrums with the assistance of your brain interr the
vibration, so that you may hear).
Healers operate at 7.8 MZ (refer to Emergin Light - Barbara Brennan)
which is a different level than most people. We have a special grounding
that makes the vibration different. Level 12 Mz is in another dimension
where your intuition and manifestation are creating reality (accordin to
Monroe Institute). So we even as humans have a different vibrational
level. Many people can feel, see or react to that vibration. I am
empathic, so I sense, feel people.. as they walk in a room, or if they
have pain. I generally can tell them where it hurts. With Reiki, I
also seem to have the abilty to bring up the kundulini in people, but I
am very careful whom I work with. yes.. you can call it a Shatki or
whatever words you need to translate the thought patterns and forms that
reside in your mind.
I was at the Expo this last week and a man approached the booth. He aske
what sort of medtation I used.. I told him, I meditated and then found
the words for the feeling and I didn't specifically call it TM or
anything. He lookd up and the color of his eyes drew my attention. They
were intensely Black and I think the light hitting them made them flash
like lightening.. I told him.. "Your a yoga" and he said Yes! and told
me I was the "Fourth Ray" and walkd away while I stood there not sure of
what had just happened. His energy was astounding.
How's that for explanation..!!
Brightest Blessings to scatter all your shadows..
flute
http://www.create.org
Healing Across the Internet
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 16:00:06 +-100
From: Tom Bradley <tombATnospamPhoneLink.COM>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Taoist Yoga and Reiki
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Jeanne,
I've been aware of these machines for a few years but haven't had the opportunity to buy one yet. And there are lots of different ones... But I recently saw a spec for one that covers all my needs (I think it's called the Polysync Pro) and there's a monthly payment plan involved so it isn't too expensive all at once. I'm hoping to get it in November. I'm glad that you can ward off migraine by remembering the feel of the state - that's what's so interesting about these machines, that you can potentially attune yourself to a state that you might have had spend years of meditation before you could attain it. I think it will be a good complement to the kundalini training I aim to undertake.
Bye,
Tom
P.s. Can you recommend a good web-page on reiki? I'm only vaguely aware of it, but it sounds worth looking into.
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:03:52 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
Message-ID: <343E51E8.4FF8ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Graham Dumpleton wrote:
> > A Jester who thinks he has a purpose or an excuse for his act is
> > usually the most tragic character of all...
>
> Yet, sometimes is it not the fool who is the most wise. :-)
There is no wisdom in the fool who thinks he may be wise. The wise know they are
foolish.
The difference is very subtle.
Those who play the fool out of wisdom are still playing. Those (like Lobster) who do not
differentiate between folly or wisdom unless people can not do so, are foolish enough to
point out the difference.
You have been caught jesting Kourt Jester but have you been foolish enough to think
yourself wise?
Most Kind Regards
other wise Lobster
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:31:40 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Negative Energy Field
Message-ID: <343E586C.17B4ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Gordon J. Bakken wrote:
> WHAT IS ENERGY?
For those of you able to cope with arch-scepticism and with genuine psychic gifts and in
need of 1.1 million dollars you could take the Randi challange. Prove that such energy
as you claim exists . . .
Details further down . . .
Gordon:
When we talk about Kundalini or the Holy Spirit as being energy flows, we surely mean
more than power. Power without guidance is pretty useless. In fact most of us, if we
could use more of anything, could use more guidance for the energy we have. Do we
really mean spirit, or life, or soul, or intellegance, or mind, or God or something like
that, when we say energy - something with purpose, not just power?
Lobster:
First of all this energy is experiential not verifiable. It is personally valid. The
important point is that people making 'energy movement claims' and 'psychic abilities'
claims should put Randi out of business. They never have. This might tell you something
about the relationship between 'power' and imagination. Do not be fooled by those with
'powers'. Those with genuine gifts exist but are rarely exposed or even discussed.
However many of us feel a force or movement which we give various names. It may be
traceable to hormonal or mental processes. It deserves investigation because it alters
and improves (though it seems also to disrupt some) peoples experience. Do not think
that K can not be investigated, it has been, can be and will be. A great deal is
imagination . . .
Lobster
Someone sort this guy out . . .
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THE "SOLVED MYSTERIES" WORKSHOP
Prize-winning Dr. Marvin Minsky, of MIT, has just announced he's
coming to the October 31-November 2 "Solved Mysteries" workshop at
JREF. We might even prevail on him to say a few words to the group on
Sunday morning that weekend. If you're intending to be there, we
still have hotel rooms available at the Wyndham Hotel, and we're
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Lots of inquiries about what I'm doing here in Australia, and I regret
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making lawyer noises again after it's all out. Or is he still around?
I'll be meeting with the Australian Skeptics tonight to discuss all
this (it's already Friday here, for some reason mere mortals cannot
understand) and help them get ready for the big surprise that will
amuse Down Under next week.
I have an avid "remote viewer" on leash who very much wants to make me
cough up the 2000 Club reward (currently US$1,240,000, but only
guaranteed by JREF to US$1.1 million) as I witness his remarkable
powers. Trouble is, these folks are so accustomed to dealing with the
innocent and the naive, that they want to run on and on about how they
will do fuzzily-defined tests, rather than GETTING DOWN TO IT. I have
to read endless descriptions of theories and peripheral notions of how
wrong science is, before they get to the point where an agreement
might actually be possible. In the vast majority of cases, as with
all these confrontations, they back out at the last minute, as you
know.
The rather charming chap who has been doing the "remote viewing
dowsing" (don't look at me like that, that's what he called it) with
us, tried to change the protocol after 6 misses in a row (1 out of 10
chances) and when I insisted he do the entire agreed-upon ten tests,
he complied and obtained a perfect score. He got ten out of ten
wrong. He was at one point ready to attend the Solved Mysteries
workshop to give us a demonstration, but when I told him he couldn't
run on about "vortexes" and "vibrations" and various theories about
how his powers worked, but had to GET DOWN TO IT, he cancelled out.
Similarly, the strident and rather pompous homeopath who had the
sure-fire, three-day, convincing way to prove that homeopathy worked,
decided that he couldn't get me to "resonate" properly, so he's out of
it, too. Where ARE these powerful forces when you need them?
It would be very instructive if we could get a claimant to attend the
workshop and show us his/her powers, but that seems only a remote
possibility. Frankly, we have LOTS of material to cover that weekend,
but live talent would still be welcome. After all, we're told that
the world is brimming with psychics, and surely ONE would be
interested in taking the 2000 Club prize.....?
We're still accepting pledgers to the 2000 Club, of course. Though
the pledged amount is well in excess of the US$1.1 million we
advertise, that's as much as the JREF can properly guarantee from its
assets. All of the amount should be available, but any winner(s)
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All for now. This long posting is the result of a 14-hour time
difference, with me working at impossible hours while awaiting the
wakening of Sydney. My poor body!
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:10:36 -0500
From: jeannegATnospamicon.net (Jeanne Garner)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Good/Bad Vibes
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Mornin',
>So since then, I have been rather skeptical regarding the word 'vibes'.
>Now I see it more as 'This person is just not to my liking, my
>personality type'. The same goes for rooms or homes we visit. I don't
>see it so much as vibes, but as preferences.
I think it's both "vibes" and preferences. Everything IS energy, some of it
dense (like this desk or that Mack truck), and some of it is subtle, like
color, certain sounds, thoughts, feelings, television and radio waves, etc.
Many of these are measurable, although currently the scientific community
likes to draw the line at thoughts and feelings--even while they measure
these on electronic devices. "Good" vibes or bad ones, however, are a
matter of preference, and it can extend to any of these things--the desk can
give me a "bad" vibe if I happen to think it's a bad experience to stub my
toe on it--or a "good" vibe when I enjoy doing some activity involving the
desk.
With people, it is a lot the same: we often seek out people who validate
some concept of ourselves, like your friend who saw herself as a leader
seeking those who would follow. Some folks encounter lots of "unpleasant"
people. We're all pretty magnetic, drawing those who somehow validate these
notions of what we think the world is like. Thus, if someone believe the
world is full of mean spirited and nasty people, it really seems that way
because they draw, magnetically, yet somehow unconsciously, lots of jerks
into their sphere of being.
These thoughts of ours are more mighty than we can imagine. You can leave
behind a residue of what you think. It somehow remains long after the
thought was released and forgotten. I've always been something of an
empath, and have been able to "pick up" on whatever has been left behind on
objects and rooms as well. If I take the time to investigate what I've
"picked up," it's usually right on the money.
I think "vibes" are quite real--it's how we sometimes communicate with one
another consciously or unconsciously, it's how we send healing (or, for
some, curses) to another through Reiki, a loving touch, or a caring thought.
But, like with anything else, when we label them as good, bad, or whatever,
that's preference.
Jeanne
==-* My stars!
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:07:56 +-100
From: Tom Bradley <tombATnospamPhoneLink.COM>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: chakras and radionics
Message-ID: <01BCD59F.0E5CA440ATnospamtomb.dev.PhoneLink.COM>
A few years ago I was visiting a friend whose father was a practitioner of various types of alternative medicine. I happened to see a number of books on radionics there. Some of them seemed to have to do with measuring or manipulating energy in the chakras. If anybody has knowledge about this I'd like to hear about it.
Tom
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 12:44:59 -0400
From: "F. Drew Leyda" <leydaATnospamvalunet.com>
To: <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: So Far
Message-Id: <9710101931.AA17729ATnospamns.valunet.com>
In the short time that I have been reading this list I have noticed a lot
of use of the words I and me.
Is Kundalini a way to discover your self ? I thought the list would be
about meditation and posture techniques. Is there a mailing list for these
types of discussions ? I do not get newsgroups.
TIA
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Drew
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