1997/10/04 00:15
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #492
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 492
Today's Topics:
Re: kundalini pain
Re: Is Morality Relative
Only the superficial do not judge by appearances (Oscar Wilde)
Re: to those desperately seeking
Re: Only the superficial do not judge by appearances (Oscar Wilde)
Re: protection
aMUSEment
Re:ear sounds and interpreting them
Re: A Question?
Re: Is Morality Relative
Re: desperately seeking Valerian validation
Re: Is Morality Relative
Re: Is Morality Relative
Re: desperately seeking Valerian validation
Re: kundalini pain
Re: Is Morality Relative
Re: Is Morality Relative
Re: aMUSEment
Just one for the snipper
Re: Changing our DNA? INDEEDY...
Re: Fwd: Kundalini Awakening
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 11:10:30 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: markwoollardATnospampowernet.powerwindows.ca
CC: SchrLLATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini pain
Message-ID: <3434C494.79AAATnospamintercomm.com>
Mark Woollard wrote:
>
> Mark Woollard wrote:
> >
> > Kundalini pain is being unable to unsubscribe to this list. Looks like
> > once you turn it on, you can't turn it off.
Mark,
The list isn't normally this explosive, oviously people are having a
hard time right now centering and detaching. It does come through from
time to time. But, it will settle down soon.
If you have to leave though we understand. Gloria
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 14:49:16 -0400
From: David Hodges <dhodgesATnospamrecol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Is Morality Relative
Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971003144916.00b0dd50ATnospammail.recol.net>
At 12:00 PM 10/3/97 -0400, you wrote:
>In a message dated 97-10-03 11:04:11 EDT, you write:
>
><< .I don't know how well a discussion of conventional
> morality vs K morality would fly on the list...yet I am trying to work out
> those issues myself. Any thoughts? >>
> Let's see what we get. If you are and I did, everyone else probably is too.
>ATnospam->->--
>
>
Aurobindo says that there are conventional ethics for those who live at the
levels of body, mind, and emotion, and supra-ethics for those who have
transcended those levels. But that doesn't give K. people moral license to
do as they please, he says their ethical and moral decisions are not
dictated by community standards (I am wildly paraphrasing from my memory of
something read several weeks ago) but by their opened-hearts guidance.
SO if the K energy is stimulating one sexually there could be some moral
choices to be made, and even some harsh dilemmas to resolve. In my
experience these sorts of dilemmas are usually the perfect thing for growth
and they have a way of melting away when a point of realization has been
reached. But if we go into our hearts and seek guidance how can we go wrong?
My problem is, how can one communicate this to someone for whom
conventional ethics are all there is? Who sees a kind of amoral
licensciousness being released if conventional ethics are abandoned? Who is
personally threatened by all this?
David
-----------------------------------------
David Hodges
203-776-4874
RECOL, LLC An Internet Solutions Company
http://www.recol.com
davidATnospamrecol.com
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 15:25:07 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Only the superficial do not judge by appearances (Oscar Wilde)
Message-ID: <343570C3.496BATnospamdial.pipex.com>
valerian wrote:
> v: that is a bit rash of you to pass judgement upon me publically from
> the likes of the 'genius-l list', which is predominately composed mostly
> with misogynists with many more "problems" than myself & mostly in
> denial about it. you will find me crystal clear, comparatively.
> obviously, males of the ilk of which you speak would consider anyone
> female to have insurmountable "problems".
I am very careful about my judgements. They are neither rash nor rushed.
Your assesment of the Genius list is fair. Some people on that list still
think I am a
woman and as long as they maintain their ridiculous posture I shall
continue to be so.
> where are you in this menagerie? maybe the log in your own eye can be
> removed & you will see my "problems" more graciously...
In this menagerie I am the log and the I in the eye. Of course I have
problems and lack
of clarity, anyone who dares to judge others is seriously flawed :)
> in the area of giving freely - hey - i was trying my best to say that i
> am here to learn more about 'kundalini', not the breadth & scope &
> analysis of more pain than already endured & contests about it. does
> 'kundalini' recognition necessitate the upheaval of every pain, physical
> & emotional & mental since birth & before? maybe it does, someone can
> just clue me in. why can it not be condensed to 'been there, done that'
> acceptance & willingness to transcend it? we are ALL in pain in one or
> various ways...
The reason we allow people the expression of their pain, is to share and
unburden
themself. They do not understand it, they may think they have been going
crazy when it
may have been something else. People here genuinly care for each other,
for their pain
and problems and they offer comfort, change and transformation and that
is how it ties
into kundalini.
> this petty bickering is not very educational in general, imho, that is
> my point.
Is that your point? That is a good point and I would agree with you.
> save the judgements for offlist, okay crustacean? you notice i passed no
> judgements on you?
Oh Valerian.
I am 'fishy'
I hang out with mysoginists and consider women problematic . . .
I belong in a menagerie
I have a Log in my eye
I bicker and am judgemental (and not educational)
Oh I noticed all right :)
but then I guess I am just too sensitive . . .
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
ARC
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/place/vv60/
--
ARC
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/place/vv60/
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 12:34:36 -0800
From: valerian <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: dcodaATnospamtherapist.net
CC: morganaATnospambest.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: to those desperately seeking
Message-ID: <343556D5.469FATnospamptialaska.net>
<snip>
>d'c: As for pain...pain is necessary, suffering is optional. Even pain
> has its beauty. How beautiful to care enough about ANYTHING or ANYONE to be
> moved in the heart enough to feel pain.
v: and how great & good to transcend beyond pain, as you describe!
if one is transformed into higher consciousness & beauty, light & bliss,
does even chronis physical pain disappear? or does it become merely
irrelevant?
--
"Ah, good taste! What a dreadful thing! Taste is the enemy of
creativeness." PabloPicasso
valerie cooper
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7982/index.html
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 12:48:51 -0800
From: valerian <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Only the superficial do not judge by appearances (Oscar Wilde)
Message-ID: <34355A2A.7C04ATnospamptialaska.net>
> > v: that is a bit rash of you to pass judgement upon me publically from
> > the likes of the 'genius-l list', which is predominately composed mostly
> > with misogynists with many more "problems" than myself & mostly in
> > denial about it. you will find me crystal clear, comparatively.
>lob: I am very careful about my judgements. They are neither rash nor rushed.
> Your assesment of the Genius list is fair. Some people on that list still
> think I am a
> woman and as long as they maintain their ridiculous posture I shall
> continue to be so.
v: *lol*
<snip>
>lob: In this menagerie I am the log and the I in the eye. Of course I have
> problems and lack
> of clarity, anyone who dares to judge others is seriously flawed :)
v: :)
<snip>
> >v: this petty bickering is not very educational in general, imho, that is
> > my point.
>
> lob:Is that your point? That is a good point and I would agree with you.
v: *lol* okey-dokey!
>lob: Oh Valerian.
> I am 'fishy'
> I hang out with mysoginists and consider women problematic . . .
> I belong in a menagerie
> I have a Log in my eye
> I bicker and am judgemental (and not educational)
> Oh I noticed all right :)
> but then I guess I am just too sensitive . . .
v: roflmao!!! *lolololol*! nah...yer kinda cute there, crusty!
;) what's your 'sign'? Cancer? *lol*
--
"Ah, good taste! What a dreadful thing! Taste is the enemy of
creativeness." PabloPicasso
valerie cooper
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7982/index.html
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 16:47:17 -0400
From: acarre <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: Sharon Webb <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: protection
Message-ID: <343559D4.CEDCCECATnospamconcentric.net>
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mailgw00.execpc.com id CAA03569
Hello Sharon,
A very nice shield indeed, very detailed, and I love the details in your
description. It will help a lot.
I would like to add for those of you who have difficulty (because off to
much negative energy in you) to reach a good alpha state in order build
a shield.
This is a simple visualization trick to unblock the path for the
infinite energies passing trough you.
The best one I like, is visualizing my spine going down to the core of
the earth, that I see as a very bright light that then comes up this
visualized spine into my body. It fills up my body like hot milk going
up and burning the tension away. To finally irrupt from the head
spitting out all the gray stuff away, finally melting a very white
sphere over my head. This sphere then rains silver drops on, and, in my
body, cooling down the hot milk and making it crystal clear.
If I want to become even more crystal clear, I add a laser white beam
coming firm the sky and goes into this white sphere over my head. (Watch
out for loosing to much contact with the ground on this one...)
If a part of me, is more tense than the others, after this, I direct the
white light from the crown to the area that needs attention, until the
tension goes away.
Dont forget to bring back in the spine when you are done...
Then I will try to build this shield Sharon as just proposed, I have a
lot to learn from it, for the hard times, I think :-)
In peace, Love and Light
Antoine
---------------------
Sharon Webb wrote:
> Hi Everybody,
>
> There have been several posts lately about the pain and difficulty of
> handling the negative feelings picked up from others in the work place
> or
> from being in groups. This is a very real problem and can lead to
> extreme
> fatigue, anger, depression and so on...and sometimes to illness.
>
> I feel sure that many/most of you may already know how to shield or
> cloak
> against this. If you do, I don't want to bore you, so you might want
> to
> stop reading this now. But if you don't, maybe this will help. It
> certainly helped me.
>
> There are probably a thousand or more ways to do this, and most of the
>
> variations deal with differences in imagery. So, I'll offer one
> here...and
> you can tailor the visuals to best suit your own purposes.
>
> Creating a shield requires going into an altered state at
> first---alpha
> will do...or the deeper theta state of meditation. While in the
> altered
> state, visualize yourself at the center of a transparent bubble. Be
> sure
> that the bubble extends a couple of feet above your head and below
> your
> feet.
>
> Fill this bubble with light and energy, drawing up from the earth for
> centering and down from the sky. See the energies meeting in the
> heart
> chakra---each beat of your heart pumping more and more light into your
>
> protective bubble.
>
> When the bubble is full, turn your attention to the skin of the
> bubble.
> See it as an intelligent membrane that keeps your own energy from
> dissipating and allows only positive energies from others to enter.
> Imagine someone sending you love. Turn this into a visual
> image---perhaps
> a heart, or rose petals. See these allowed to float gently into your
> bubble. Now imagine someone sending volleys of anger or fear in all
> directions. Try visualizing these energies as arrows aimed at your
> shield.
> See each arrow as it strikes your bubble fail to penetrate, but
> instead to
> fall harmlessly into the ground.
>
> When you complete this construct, you now need a way to instantly call
> up
> this protection. While you are still in a meditative state, give
> yourself
> a symbolic act that you can take away from the meditation. One way is
> to
> put your first two fingers and thumb together and say to yourself,
> "When I
> put these three fingers together and think the work 'shield,' I will
> instantly be protected."
>
> There are many things you can do with these shields...you can protect
> your
> house, your loved ones, your car...you can extend the shield to
> include
> others and nurture them...you can pump more energy into it when you
> are
> tired and need a boost...and on and on.... You are limited only by
> your
> imagination.
>
> Sharon
> shawebbATnospamyhc.edu
> A new fractal gallery was posted to this site on September 10th:
> http://home1.gte.net/itriazon/Sharon.htm
> USA Today Hot Site; Cosmic Site of the Night: Cool Central Site of the
> Day;
> ENC Digital Dozen for June '97; Enchantment Award; ArtSearch Featured
> Site;
> NetTech NeatTech: Best of the Web in Educational Technology; Eye Candy
>
> Honorable Mention
--
Antoine Carré
http://www.concentric.net/~acarre/
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 13:24:43 -0800
From: valerian <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: aMUSEment
Message-ID: <3435628C.296DATnospamptialaska.net>
kundalini list;
i find the reminders of psychic shields & visualizations posted here
recently to be of great value, & i thankyou all for sharing the info. i
want to share this thought, to add to the 'stairway to heaven' musings:
one thing distinctively of the utmost importance upon this spiritual
path is the quality of *amusement*. the importance should NOT be
underestimated; maintaining a sense of humor is tantamount to surviving
in these trials & pains & veils of tears & misfortunes!
laughter makes one strong, causes pleasure to one's self & one's
company.
i was actually taught this by the CHURCH OF DIVINE MAN - a *psychic
institute* of sorts; who taught me about how to ground & psychic shields
with light & roses, as well! i really needed this fact of humor at the
time, & recalling it has kept me buoyant ever since!
blessings to all & a good belly laugh!
v
--
"Ah, good taste! What a dreadful thing! Taste is the enemy of
creativeness." PabloPicasso
valerie cooper
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7982/index.html
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:33:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: CDeepaATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re:ear sounds and interpreting them
Message-ID: <971003172952_555795043ATnospamemout12.mail.aol.com>
Hi i just reread that thing someone wrote about being able to
desipher...(nice spelling...ha) ,,,,those wacky sounds i have in my head and
ears.....humming buzzing or high pitched in either ear....
I want to know more.....gimme the details....
deepa
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 18:18:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: NamasteaATnospamaol.com
To: t_shermanATnospamhotmail.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: A Question?
Message-ID: <971003181605_-1865478530ATnospamemout17.mail.aol.com>
You might find a book by Dorothy Elder interesting. She discusses kundalini
and various aspects of the bible along with Christ...
I found it very useful in my search and in my understanding of my own
relationship with the Kundalini energy in my life.
Tamara
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 18:26:39 -0700
From: indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com>
To: David Hodges <dhodgesATnospamrecol.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Is Morality Relative
Message-ID: <34359B4E.5E6ATnospamsmartt.com>
Linda wrote:..... .I don't know how well a discussion of conventional
> > morality vs K morality would fly on the list...yet I am trying to work out those issues myself. Any thoughts? Let's see what we get. ...... everyone else probably is too.ATnospam->->--
David Hodges wrote: ......there are conventional ethics for those who
live at the levels of body, mind, and emotion, and supra-ethics for
those who have transcended those levels.
I:The crux of all this , I find, is to look within and determine which
level do I live in and function from. Then I must find out how can I
improve to go upward or forward,without injury to oneself or to others
in the process.
eg. for one who is stealing or murdering people, is definitely operating
from the physical.mental and emotional level also , just as most of us
do most of the time.
But the difference is their perspective moral/immoral, ethical/unethical
stems from their understanding, choice, and determination to act in such
ways which are detrimental to others in society. While others who do not
operate from similar perspective would
have another angle of understanding of the moral/ethical issues,
determined by society from time to time.
Those who have been able to connect with the Supra-Mind and their
perspective transfornmed, consider themselves not as the doer of the
action but the medium through the Supra-Mind expresses.
David Hodges:But that doesn't give K. people moral license to do as
they please, .....ethical and moral decisions are not dictated by
community standards .. but by their opened-hearts guidance.
I: It is only our openess of our hearts, can we all feel and hear the
silent voice within and know which action would produce what result, in
matters of life in the three dimensions.The question is do we follow our
heart together with our heads? do we listen to that inner voice in
silence? Mostly in matters of our lives we do not stand aside even for a
moment, and try to listen within, but rush to action as soon as our
neurons are fired by external stimuli.
David Hodges: SO if the K energy is stimulating one sexually there could
be some moral choices to be made, and even some harsh dilemmas to
resolve. In my experience these sorts of dilemmas are usually the
perfect thing for growth and they have a way of melting away when a
point of realization has been reached. But if we go into our hearts and
seek guidance how can we go wrong?
I: Very , Very true.
David Hodges:My problem is, how can one communicate this to someone for
whom conventional ethics are all there is? Who sees a kind of amoral
licensciousness being released if conventional ethics are abandoned? Who
is personally threatened by all this?
I: In this case, I follow the inner guidance which allows me to feel
whom we should or should not communicate with.
Before we plant seeds, the field needs to be worked on, for the seeds to
sink and flower.
So Morality is relative to existing trends of society and the
perspective of the individual involved. But ethics on the other hand is
surely the foundation upon which morality grows.
Others are entitled to their views according to their perspective and
understanding. I would let them be and discover for themselves.
Indra
\
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 21:54:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: SchrLLATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: desperately seeking Valerian validation
Message-ID: <971003215357_1720804767ATnospamemout01.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 97-10-03 21:07:52 EDT, you write:
<<
> anyone wanna hear MY *sad story*?
> i gotta million of 'em!
I am not interested but I am sure some will be. Some may even be able to
help . . . >>
I am available for questions. Anybody want to know anything? ATnospam->->--
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 22:13:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: SchrLLATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Is Morality Relative
Message-ID: <971003221128_694565157ATnospamemout19.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 97-10-03 21:32:07 EDT, you write:
<< So Morality is relative to existing trends of society and the
perspective of the individual involved. But ethics on the other hand is
surely the foundation upon which morality grows.
Others are entitled to their views according to their perspective and
understanding. I would let them be and discover for themselves. >>
ATnospam->->-- Indra,
This is comfortable to me to hear without feeling the finger is pointing.
My individual perspective is gradually bradening as K has allowed psychic
input from others. People are not what they would have you believe. I feel
their emotions. This has been very confusing at times. It becomes difficult
to remain centered. It is hard enough to feel the innemost emotions of a
mate, but terribly confusing to feel that of strangers. (All the more reason
not to mess around.) Indeed we are all One on some levels, but we need to
harken back to our own individual selves to get grounded and tune in to our
innermost Light. Distractions and non discernment can draw us away from our
goal. Love and Light, Linda
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 23:31:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: CitySteamATnospamaol.com
To: indraATnospamsmartt.com, dhodgesATnospamrecol.com
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Is Morality Relative
Message-ID: <971003233127_1241690890ATnospamemout03.mail.aol.com>
please remove me from your e-mail list
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 23:33:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: CitySteamATnospamaol.com
To: SchrLLATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: desperately seeking Valerian validation
Message-ID: <971003233259_-695913460ATnospamemout07.mail.aol.com>
please remove me from your email list
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 23:34:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: CitySteamATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini pain
Message-ID: <971003233408_124422923ATnospamemout07.mail.aol.com>
please remove me from your e-mail list
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 23:35:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: CitySteamATnospamaol.com
To: SchrLLATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Is Morality Relative
Message-ID: <971003233512_728144908ATnospamemout20.mail.aol.com>
please remove me from your e-mail list
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 20:42:39 -0700
From: indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com>
To: SchrLLATnospamaol.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Is Morality Relative
Message-ID: <3435BB2E.E88ATnospamsmartt.com>
Indra wrote:
>
>
> << So Morality...... is relative to existing trends of society and the
> perspective of the individual involved. But ethics is....
> surely the foundation upon which morality grows.
> Others are entitled to their views according to their perspective and
> understanding.
> ATnospam->->--Linda wrote:
> This is comfortable to me to hear without feeling the finger is pointing.
...... I feel their emotions. This has been very confusing at times. It
becomes difficult to remain centered. It is hard enough to feel the
innemost emotions of a mate, but terribly confusing to feel that of
strangers.
>..... harken back to our own individual selves to get grounded and tune in to our innermost Light. Distractions and non discernment can draw us away from our goal.
Linda ------I appreciate your feelings. I am emphatic too, but if I try
to stay centered I found that in some way it shields many vibrations
impinging on our psyche from all angles , positive/negative/neutral. Not
Always though. But surely as you mention discernment helps a lot.
Thanks for sharing,
In Love, Life & Light,
Indra
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 20:38:44 -0500
From: Mike Beaver <yodaATnospamband1.bandwidth.net>
To: madammumATnospamptialaska.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: aMUSEment
Message-Id: <34359E24.5ACFATnospamband1.bandwidth.net>
Dear Valerian:
I was just recently told to check THE DIVINE CHURCH OF MAN out by a
guy I do Kriya yoga with. Do you have a phone number for them here in
Portland, Oregon?
valerian wrote:
>
> kundalini list;
> i find the reminders of psychic shields & visualizations posted here
> recently to be of great value, & i thankyou all for sharing the info. i
> want to share this thought, to add to the 'stairway to heaven' musings:
> one thing distinctively of the utmost importance upon this spiritual
> path is the quality of *amusement*. the importance should NOT be
> underestimated; maintaining a sense of humor is tantamount to surviving
> in these trials & pains & veils of tears & misfortunes!
> laughter makes one strong, causes pleasure to one's self & one's
> company.
> i was actually taught this by the CHURCH OF DIVINE MAN - a *psychic
> institute* of sorts; who taught me about how to ground & psychic shields
> with light & roses, as well! i really needed this fact of humor at the
> time, & recalling it has kept me buoyant ever since!
> blessings to all & a good belly laugh!
> v
> --
> "Ah, good taste! What a dreadful thing! Taste is the enemy of
> creativeness." PabloPicasso
> valerie cooper
> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7982/index.html
--
Sincerely;
Mike Beaver
yodaATnospamband1.bandwidth.net
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Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 02:21:36 -0400
From: "Ed Arrons" <eeaATnospamaug.com>
To: "E Jason" <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Just one for the snipper
Message-Id: <199710040621.CAA18665ATnospamsandia.aug.com>
E. Jason:
>Know any good jokes . . .
Oh, i got a great one for ya.....best one I could find...i put it in this lil
brown paper bag....got a lil soft and gooey....go on....just stick yer lil
nose in it.......and take some in yer lil craw...i know y'll luv it.
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| Abandon ship. Women and children float - they make good bouyancy |
|aids.Oneness?Twoness?I thought I thaw a pussy cata creepin up on me |
|I didI didDo not think of tweety pie.I thought I thaw a puthy cata cweepin |
|up on me didI didHe's a nordy puthy cat . . .GrandmaGrandmathat nordy |
|puthy cat tried to eat me . . .
Ya got a great sense a humor, kid......Its all in good fun, eh kid?
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 17:18:15 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: GoodwulfeATnospamaol.com
CC: kenmATnospamoregon.uoregon.edu, Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Changing our DNA? INDEEDY...
Message-ID: <34351AC5.3577ATnospamintercomm.com>
GoodwulfeATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
> Ken, Im not sure about that.... But thank you for the very warm thought.
> Its very comforting to know that others do care. God knows I really need to
> feel that right now. Bless your heart! Love, Kelly
KELLY,
I Must have missed the post where the words got rambled, but I hope
everyone can just let go and move on. Words can be blessings or burdens,
lets see if we can heal the wounds out there for whatever reason it is
here. It is illusion. Gloria
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 17:24:55 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: CDeepaATnospamaol.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: Kundalini Awakening
Message-ID: <34351C55.2A8BATnospamintercomm.com>
CDeepaATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
> ---------------------
> Forwarded message:
> Subj: Re: Kundalini Awakening
> Date: 97-10-02 01:20:50 EDT
> From: CDeepa
> To: CKRESS
>
> Wow....This just made me remember a dream that I had last nite.....for it to
> make sense i must tell you that one part of the kundalini thing that I
> experience is this uncomfortable unrealness of the world...including
> myself....everything literally feels like a dream....surreal....
> Well in the "dream" while i was sleeping last nite I was in some kind of
> Ashram with a male teacher....and he told me that the radical changes in
> perception were to help me let go of what I valued....or thought was so
> real....so that I could begin to experience what is real......The purpose was
> to shake loose the tite grip that I had on what I thought was real....or my
> life....
> And of course...the extreme pain has been a part of it all....tons of pain
> and grief...
> So...I thought that went along with what was said before.....
> It is really a transformation.....and the pain really does seem to be a part
> of it....perhaps it is the letting go....that hurts.....but this leads to the
> expansion...
>
> just some thoughts......deepa :)
Great dream and interpretation. This is exactly what is happening with
kundalini, it is going into areas of emotional, mental imbalance and
putting the energy in which as it increases frequency one is forced into
letting go. This can be painful if one is trying to hold on to beliefs
and thought forms.
The pain is from blocks, and is really like when you get a cut and all
of the reinforcement goes to the area to heal it, not that different
really. Gloria
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