1997/09/28 07:35
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #469
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 469
Today's Topics:
Re: Reply to Evan's Question
Beware Evan--A Lobster is loose, and Joe's Truths
Re: the strangest dream
Re: Grounding: tingles, buzzes, etc.
Re: the strangest dream
K Awakening
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 20:18:51
From: indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
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Subject: Re: Reply to Evan's Question
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Mohanamurali Parasuraman wrote:
>
> Dear Evan,
<snipped>
> Remember, the guru must be qualified and also once you accept a
> guru, you should never displease him/her as a gurus anger can prevent
> further spiritual evolution. If you have any other questions, anyone on
> this list will be happy to help you.
>
> your in service,
> Mohan
Hello !
With my Guru I never maintained a relationship through fear or pseudo
respect. I had disagreements with my Gurus, yet inspite of it all we
always maintained a realtionship of divine friendship.
I had given a talk on Gurus and Discipleship to a group of Western
Spiritual people. I would like to share my thoughts on the subject of
Gurus in the attachment sent herewith. I would definitely be open to to
criticism and acceptance from this group.
So here it is converted to plain text from .html as this is going to be
posted in a week on my web page:http://pwrsonal.smartt.com/~indra
In Love, Life & Light,
Indra
Gurus and Discipleship -by Indra Chakrabarty
Truth never reveals itself to our minds as along as we remain in a state of
consciousness which is primarily driven by our ego .
Our ego is the connecting link between our experiences in the outer world
and our inner world.
When we are driven by our ego exclusively we are able to operate in the
outer world with the help of our personality.
Our personalities are colored with our past expriences,
as we approach the events in the now,and discerning the motives,and cause
and effect. Our physical brain helps in guiding us through our course of
action.
In the olden days there were teachers who were successful in the experiences
of the inner world and remained secluded. They had given in to the Divine
Will to such an extent that they used to pray to have inspiration to work in
such a way that was beneficial not only to them but to those who came in
contact with them.
After all we must never forget to test the person who may be accepted as a
Guru inside out. We must not stop and become mesmerized in to believing
whatever that Guru may say or do. We have all been given intelligence,
wisdom, power of discernment,right of choice and the power of logically
understanding the motives of the Guru. Let us put that Guru in the acid test
of our logic and understanding, if after such a test we find that what the
guru is saying or doing and also the way of leading his personal life is in
harmony of his personality-led speeches and actions. Then only we should try
to emulate him for our spiritual growth and soul unfoldment.
In the purest sense a human guru who is able to tell your past, your present
and the future could be a guru.
But for a guru to achieve that state of consciousness takes a lot of
personal discipline and practice. Whose mind is anchored in the Divine most
of the time of his lifetime. That guru will not beg for food shelter or
clothing, rather these needs will be met by the divine.
In the Bhagavad Gita chapter 19 verse 22 Sri Krishna
states: Ananyas Chintayo Mam,
Ye janah paryupasate,
tesham nityabhi yuktanam,
yogakhsemam vahamyaham.
Those who take refuge in Me alone, thinking of none but Me to these
steadfast souls I provide all they need and preserve what they have.
Those souls who can relate to the Universal Source of all at all times can
be taken as a Guru in the Human form. Otherwise, these days there is no
dearth of pseudo gurus who claim to be a Swami , Maharishi or Mahatma and
are elevated by the power of their following and the media to have occult
and psychic powers. These pseudo gurus need to be accepted with a grain of
salt.
People in their search of the real guru visit innumerable places and fall an
easy prey due to their emotional difficulties and the wish to be enlightened
at the press of a magic button, the so called Shaktipath and the like, are
merely puting themselves in bondage.
We must remember that each individual soul is a ray of the Infinite. Each
soul must go through its experiences as ordained by the subsconscious
inclinations of their minds and understand the Truth from the lesser truths.
Through meditative contemplation one is bound to receive guidance from the
Divine through their own mind and body, only if they could devote to such
practices of self analysis and examination with objectivity. Being an
observer of their own thoughts, emotions and actions and analysing the why,
what, how and when to their conditions would open doors for them for inner
illumination.
We must remember at all times that we as souls are destined to be perfect,
and every being in the end will and must attain the state of perfection.
The shaping of our own individual destinies does not preclude our receiving
help from the outside. When that opportunity arrives the higher powers of
our souls, higher possibilities of our inner nature to manifest itself
become quickened. Our spiritual life is awakened and our growth becomes
animated with the Love of All.
Can we receive this quickening impulse to our inner growth from books? I
would say books do help us understand the philosophies, the dynamics of our
life as they unfold, but in no way does it, or can it make us spiritual.
Through study of books we may become very intellectual, but in the final
analysis we find we have not developed at all in our spiritual life.
A higher order of intellectual development does not always go hand in hand
with proportionate development of our spiritual side.
In studying books, we sometimes are deluded and we begin to believe that we
are being helped spiritually.
If we analyse the effects of the study of books, we will find that our
intellect has derived a host of profits, and our inner spirit has not gained
a drop of the spiritual juice.
All around the world today we find that many inspirational and motivational
speakers are able to speak wonderfully with conviction, and write volumes on
spiritual matters. But when it comes to action and living a truly spiritual
lifestyle we would find those same personalities awfully deficient. The
reason being, they in most cases have not experienced their own Being but
have spoken volumes on the nature of Being. How? Through study and
assimilation of ideas of the those Maharishis and Mahatmas and the Great
Masters who are no longer in the physical world.
These charismatic personalities have gained recognition in society not by
the way of their spiritual lifestyle but how much they are able to
regurgitate the
results of their studying books. How much they able to mesmerise the media
and the public into believing them as masters of spirituality.
The real spiritual people will not be able to lead an oppulent lifestyle for
themselves as they can feel the teeming millions suffering in the world.
They are not seekers of name and fame nor personal wealth. Their sole
objective will be to help people move forward and deeper in their spirtual
unfoldment. They will be contented with whatever is provided by the Universe
for their maintaining a healthy and spiritual lifestyle, with a roof over
their heads and clothes to wear.
The proof of what I say, will be found in abundance if we try to read the
bigraphies or autobiographies of such spiritual giants of the wide world
over.
Who Should we Choose to be our Guru:
When we as embodied souls, being of the same nature as the Universal Soul,
yet different in the degree of manifestation, try to become perfect we must
emulate
another embodied soul, living or passed away.
To quicken our spiritual unfoldment the quickening impulse must come from
another soul.
The person from whom this impulse comes to us may be called "the guru".
The word Guru in Sanskrit means the medium, the person who has the loving
power to enligthen our inner being in such a way that we become empowered
to break the barriers of our ignorance and see the light
through our own efforts. The purpose of the Guru is to show the directions
to our spiritual unfoldment. The growth and development comes from our own
efforts in walking our chosen path for the sake of attaining the same state
of consciousness our Guru may have achieved following the path chosen.
Analyzing further we would understand that firstly:
The soul which is instrumental in giving adequate impulse to redirect and
rethink our own spirituality
must possess the power of transmission to another.
The seed must be a living seed and the field must be ready, ploughed. When
both these conditions are met, what happens is the wonderful manifestations
of genuine spirituality. When both the Guru and the disciple become live and
fulfill the conditions of a living seed and the ploughed field, then only
and only then will spiritual awakening result as the crop of the field and
it would be bountiful. Such alone can be the real teachers and such alone
can be the real spiritual aspirants. All the rest are merely playing with
spirituality.
Most of us who claim to be spiritual aspirants, have a little spiritual
curiosity awakened, and a little intellectual aspiration kindled, but in
reality are merely standing at the outer fringes of the spiritual horizon.
It is no doubt that those who care to take the effort,can and will enter the
field of spirtuality proper, and gain immensely in their personal lives as
they reap their bountiful harvest. It is not wrong to be curious about
spirituality. An indeed the little spark of spirituality may in course of
time result in the true awakening and having a real thirst for spirituality.
When we have that Thirst it needs to be attended to.
In nature we find that when the field is ready and ploughed well, seeds
sowed in that field must produce the results provided moisture and the
weather are conducive.
So also in our lives when we have ploughed our field of spirituality and we
earnestly seek to know our spirit nature, the seeds or the teacher to
transmit the spiritual force must appear to help us.
Secondly:Pitfalls in the search for a Guru.
The receiving soul may be emotionally upset and has developed the idea that
a spiritual journey will alleviate the emotional turmoil.
To give an example: Some of our loved ones may have passed away suddenly. We
receive an emotional blow.
We begin to feel the whole world slipping away from us and we feel the need
of something permanent and higher. At the time we may feel a tremendous urge
to become spiritual.
In a few days or weeks that remorse state of consciousness changes and
passes away, and we are left stranded just where we were before.
Then we must understand that we mistook such impulses as true thirst for
spirituality. So as long as these fleeting emotional hankering for
spirituality remain, the actual craving of the soul for spirituality will
never occur. Result : we do not attract that trasmitter of true sprituality
towards us.
How do know who the teacher is?
Let us look at Nature. Does the sun require another light to make itself
visible to us? Experience tells us otherwise.
When the sun rises after dawn we become aware of it instinctively. So also
when our teacher arrives our souls would instictively know that Truth has
begun to shine upon our souls. When Truth shines it requires no other
testimony to prove its existence.
That truth penetrates into the deepest parts of our nature, and we know it,
we feel it. We can all judge from the fruits That Truth gives us.
Jesus, Buddha, Krishna epitomized Truth itself in the garb of this bodily
existence. Their wisdom shone like the sun and are the greatest teachers of
Mankind. They are now worshipped as God by a major portion of Humanity.
We may also get help from people who are good spiritual teachers, though not
at the same level of manifestation as Jesus, Buddha or Krishna.
In order to know our spiritual teachers we must have the intuitive power to
discern the person from whom we choose to receive teaching and guidance.
But most of us may not have that strong power of intuition. So, what should
be done then?
There ought to be certain tests, certain conditions, which we may apply and
judge for ourselves whom we choose to be our spiritual teacher.
To choose a spiritual teacher we must make sure that he or she know the
spirit of the scriptures. Whether it be the bible, the Koran or the Vedas
and Upanishads.
Many people read scriptures, but the scriptures are only a medium of
tranference of the wisdom thorough words, semantics,philology. They are the
dry bones of spirituality.
A teacher may play with the words of the scriptures so that the mind of the
congregation get carried away in a deluge of the words themselves. In the
process, the spirit of the scriptures become elusive. We remember
a few words of the teacher,how he or she spoke. In the background of it all
our minds went their own way creating myriads of thought webs.
It is the knowledge, the experience of the spirit of the scriptures alone
which would constitute a true spiritual teacher.
"Shabda jala maharanya Chitta Bhramna Karanam"
"The semantics of word play is like deep forest maze which causes the
curious wondering of the mind"
The way many teachers express through the usage of words, using very
colorful language, makes way for the disputations and intellectual
enjoyment. The beutiful word imageries alone would not be conducive to
spiritual growth or experience.
None of the great masters ever went into explanations of various texts. They
never practiced text torturing.
They never used the jugglery of diction, nor did they play upon the meanings
or roots of words. Yet they all
taught meaningfully. They taught in simple ways.
There are numerous teachers in society today who claim to be masters in the
field of spirituality, who have not taught anything from their own
experience,
but written volume after volume of literary masterpieces through diction and
play of words, on matters of spirituality.
Although such works of artistic rendition have their proper place, but not
in the domain of spirtuality.
Allow me to tell another story to elucidate my contention. There was a huge
mango orchard, having the boughs full of luscious mangoes. A group of people
to visit the orchard. The owner had allowed them to pluck and eat the
mangoes if they liked.
But a few of the group started researching how many leaves and twigs each
tree had They began to compare fruits of one tree with another, with regard
to their color, size, shape, genre etc. Then these few started a lively and
interesting discussion on their findings.
All of them were allowed in the orchard for one day till sundown. Most of
the time went on in these intellectual exercisesabout the mangoes, their
origin, their size and shape and all. The sun was dipping towrds the
horizon.
There was one in that group who never bothered to check and discuss the
physical details, nor did he participate in the discussion of the others.
All he did was, e went on plucking mangoes when inclined to do so, and ate
them. He did not care for anything else. He was focussed on what he intended
to do and he did exactly that.
At sundown the owner came to bid the group goodbye.
He asked a few of them of their experience. Al he heard was the word play of
the topics discussed. None but one alone could relate to his experience of
eating mangoes. Hhe was the only one who could tell how sweet the mangoes
were, and how much he enjoyed it.
So the lesson here is experience is the main thing.
Let the others do what they wish to do. In spiritual life, be the mango
eater, the enjoyer, not the bean counter or a discussion leader.
The other most important condition to be a spiritual teacher is to have a
clean character. We may ask why is this a necessary condition? We may say,
we need to only judge what he speaks and take that up.
It may be true for a teacher in the mainstrem subjects of Science, Arts and
the like. In the fied of mainstrem education we need to have only the
intellectual connectivity with our teacher and nothing else. So it would not
matter how the teacher led his personal life.
But in matters of spirituality it is the experience through the ages, that
it is impossible to have any spiritual light if the soul is impure. Since
the basic of spirtual instruction is purity of the heart and the soul.
"Blessed are the pure in heart, for theirs is the Kingdom of heaven" said
Jesus in his Sermon on the Mount.
So in choosing a spiritual tecaher we must first find out what he or she is
then find out what they have to say.
>From a teacher whose heart is pure will come words of power which are
transmitted deep into another soul.
What can a spiritual teacher transmit if that purity is not within them.
There must exist a healthy vibration
in the teacher so that it may be transferred sympathetically to the
recipients.
The success of a true spiritual teacher lies in the trasference of spiritual
vibrations, and not mere
stimulation of the intellectual faculties of the recipients.
The third condition of an spiritual teacher is Motive.
A teacher who teaches for ulterior motives of name fame and wealth cannot
transmit spirituality.
A true teacher transmits wisdom and knowledge and spiritual vibrations
simply out of love for mankind.
In the modern world if the teacher is to survive, and does genuinely does
his work through Love then money and shelter to sustain him comes
automatically,
from the Divine,through the mediumship of the recipients.
So in selecting a teacher when you see these conditions fulfilled, you are
safe. Otherwise, the outer circumstances around the teacher which may
attract us , may be used to transmit wickedness instead of spirituality.
Look at the different cults which has come up in the last 50 years or so.
Need I say more?
This danger must be guarded against by all means.
So our first and foremost duty should be to look within ourselves, instead
of complaining and whinning,and make sure if the craving for spirituality is
as strong as for food when we are hungry.
Paramahamsa Ramakrishna of India, was once approached with the question that
what is the intensity of craving for spirituality does a person feel.
To answer this he related a story.
A man goes to his Guru and asks how does one feel when one feels the craving
for spirituality.
The guru did not answer. At noon the Guru invited the disciple to have a
bath in a nearby pond. The guru asked the disciple to stand in neck deep
water. The disciple is thinking that the Guru may transmit some special
power to him through ritualistic baptism.
The guru suudenly took the head of the disciple and pushed it under the
water and held it under the water for quite a few minutes. The disciple was
gasping for breath. He tried to get out of the water, threw his hand s
around to dislodge the guru's forceful hands.
Finally the guru took him by the hair and pulled his head out of the water.
The guru asked how did it feel.
The disciple answered quite agitated. "What else could I feel, I was about
to die from the short of breath."
The guru replied: "Exactly, the intensity of spirtual thirst is very
similar."
Thirdly:
There are greater dangers in regard to the Guru.
Spiritual masters in the West have achieved a mushroom like growth
potential.
There are many so called masters in the West and in the world, who although
immersed in the ignorance of true spirituality, yet in the pride of their
hearts,profess to know everything in matters spiritual. They do not stop
there, but offer to shoulder others in the spiritual quest.Result is one
blind leading the other and both fall in to the ditch.
In the Katha Upanishad Chapter 1, section 2, verse five we find the Lord of
Death Yama teaching Nachiketa the young lad " Fools dwell in darkness, wise
in their own conceit and inflated with vain knowledge, go around staggering
to and fro, like blind men led by the blind."
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 21:22:54 -0700
From: J P Flarity <joeATnospamflarity.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: ucs_blbATnospamlcc.net, paulaflarityATnospampdq.net
Subject: Beware Evan--A Lobster is loose, and Joe's Truths
Message-ID: <342DDB9E.4A1ATnospamflarity.com>
Dear K list members:
I humbly apologize for forcing you to witness a bit of self realization
than you may have found uncomfortable. I have often asked us all to
look closely at the things which really bug us because there is usually
an important message concerning ourselves.
And Evan was my perfect mirror. I have played with this fire in a
childlike (or childish?) way with fantastic results. I have laughed and
cared nothing of the past or future. I have smiled as others passed
judgment on the moment's rain.
But was I ever serious? And what could cause such a blatant attack on a
similar journeyer?
And the answer came in an instant: This is something that Lobster might
say (but cleaved with his humble sword).
Lobster came to the list and tantalized/titillated me with the expansive
forces of incongruity and unanswerable questions. His few departures
came in the form of warnings concerning the flawed directions of other
list members. Now, he is offering his own brand of 'serious' directions
to greater spirituality.
I feel betrayed by one that was a tremendous inspiration. It is as
simple as that. I need no rational.
And this list, which has been so important for the last year, has lost
its resonance. It has actually become discordant to my thinking. I
know that it is time to move on.
So I will leave the list with my own musings, that I perceive to be the
truth:
JOE's TRUTHS
God breaths with each of us and delights in every yawn. I see a glimpse
of the powerful co-creator we have within us. If it were not so, your
body would fail in an instant. Worlds may expand into being or collapse
into a point at the direction of your desire.
Holding yourself as unequal is filling yourself with duality. Be empty
and have everything.
The right way is comfortable and easy. Your soul makes it this way.
Don't strain against it unless you like to lose. It will laugh as if
you were a child holding its breath in order to get an extra scoop of
chocolate ice cream (childish?). No one else knows your way with any
better authority. Don't waste energy correcting the diversity of paths
unless specifically told to do so (then its not a waste).
Your soul is rooted in eternity. How long do you have? Listen to it
now--whispering in your dreams.
You have a body and limited concentrated awareness surrounding it. Your
ego grew and duality was created slowly with it. There is a place
beyond good/evil. You do not have to die to experience it. I highly
recommend that you keep an open mind and take a look.
The purpose of life: What else would God do? See even your tears as
wonderful gifts. Hold a slug as if it were a gorgeous flower.
(child-like?) And every flower that you hold is God kissing you and
saying:
We are all together
We are all together
There was never a time when this was not so
Your childlike wonder and laughter is the end.
with the greatest love from your childish and childlike cow farmer,
joe
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 22:44:08 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: "indra (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)" <indraATnospamsmartt.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: the strangest dream
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> >
> >Indra
>
> Sometimes the Divine renders all the help in the physical through people
> and sometimes through intuitive connections, sometimes through dreams,
> but help does come, if we maintain our openness and sincerity of
> purpose.
> Good luck to you and all in this listing.
Gloria:
That is a wonderful sharing about your dream experience, dreams can be
powerful awakening tools & if you are soul conscious enough you can by
pass the illusion and connect the spirit and human consciousness. For
example: my husband and I had been married three months, I had just
turned 18. I had a dream where I was in a lovely garden with a beautiful
baby girl, she asked me if I had come for her. I said, what a great
idea. I came back into my body, rolled over woke my husband, told him
the dream and 9 months later she was with us. I've had this experience
many times because you actually work down to your conscious mind your
instructions. Gloria
>
>
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 23:41:37
From: SchrLLATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Grounding: tingles, buzzes, etc.
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In a message dated 97-09-27 23:15:34 EDT, you write:
<< Date: 97-09-27 23:15:34 EDT
From: MrNamasteATnospamwebtv.net (shane)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
RE: Grounding
Thank you, Linda for sharing very important information.
Please share with us all the title of your book and where to order it.
The best thing I ever learned was that it is very hard to accomplish
grounding if the earth is DRY. Walking across dry ground while you are in
bare feet creates a strong static electrical charge.
However, if even just the grass is wet --- say, from an early morning dew,
then this static electicity cannot form. (These are not my perceptions ---
rather scientific fact.)
My worse k-accident phenomenon of LONG ago occured during a summer drought.
When I learned this stuff about the earth & static electricity fields, I
laughed hysterically remembering HOW many miles I'd traversed in bare feet
on bare mother earth trying to ground all that energy !!
And I assure you, that try as I might, I did NOT ground any energy this way
that summer. Indeed, my initial problems became very worse, but now we all
know why.
I am very pleased you have written a book about this. There is a desperate
need for this important information.
Once I encountered a person who'd been "K-Awake" for over 20 years, who was
VERY grateful when I shared the following, because it worked:
Cement will ground excess body electricity. When things start "buzzing",
so to say ----- take a couple block walk in BARE feet. This has worked
really fast the 2 people I told. In the winter, when you can't go outside
barefoot, go to your basement, and play with your dog.
One time allergies had served to really "electrify" me -- tingles, buzzes,
etc., and then (oh no) I could feel the whole spine beginning to activate
--- I decided to sleep on the basement floor. I didn't have to actually
sleep there because all those things ebbed away in a few --- maybe 10 -15
minutes, after I stretched out on the (freezing) cold cement floor in the
basement.
Namaste.
>>
Thank you. Just e-mail me if interested. It is called 'Loved by the Light'.
El Collie (http://users.aol.com/ckress/st.html) has a copy and will be
running a couple of articles in 'Shared Transformations' sometime after the
first of the year. Gene Kiefer has one and may be reading it as we speak.
Love and LIght, Linda ATnospam->->--
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 03:26:00 -0400
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx)
To: indraATnospamsmartt.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: the strangest dream
Message-ID: <19970928.033519.4022.22.imtgATnospamjuno.com>
Indra....
wonderful story! thanks for sharing.
<<But in times of harrowing experiences I do falter in this world of
duality. But later contemplation and meditation help clear up the
dross.""
ain't that the truth!
so glad you are here...
xxxtg
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html <~~~~ on the web now!
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 03:31:58 -0400
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx)
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: K Awakening
Message-ID: <19970928.033519.4022.23.imtgATnospamjuno.com>
Evan's questions have brought up a few things for me.... So let me ask
him a few questions first:
(please be aware, too, that these were only my own experiences, not
everyone's)
. Would you like to know what it is like to be insane and not know when
it will end, or, most importantly, IF it will ever end?
. Would you like to lose your career?
. If you are divorced and have children, would you like to lose custody
of your child because you know it is in the child's best interest to be
with the other parent?
. Would you like to lose your home and have to go back to live with your
parents?
. Would you like to be unable to work for a couple of years due to
needing time to heal from these experiences?
. Would you like to lose a lot of friends, or at least the respect they
had for you because of your insane moments?
Hey thats all I can think of now.... I'm sure there is more. I've always
had the question myself, ''why would anyone want this experience?!''
Sure there is the oneness factor or the mystical experiences that comes
with it , and learning a lot about yourself and your awareness, learning
to live in the moment, learning to get off the pendulum swing of life and
to go with the flow, learning acceptance, getting your mental,
emotional, spiritual & physical bodies in balance..... but would I do it
again? Nope nadda never. I can see in the longrun that now my mental,
emotional and spiritual self are much more balanced (have recently begun
working on the physical part now - still totally unbalanced LOL) - I am
at peace much of the time, and when I'm not, I have my faith to fall back
on, as well as my mental & emotional abilities that I've learned to make
positive use of since my K. But I don't think that to learn these
things, with the exception of the mystical experiences, that you need a
K awakening. And the mystical experience is temporary. Maybe K
brings the improvements about more quickly than I ever could on my own --
in my case it did -- but in every case, I'm not sure.
BUT, if you still insist, then I would suggest to read as much as
possible about it - become an expert on it, get a good K teacher/guru,
and most importantly, build you a good spiritual foundation so that your
house is built on rocks, not on sand. I did not know anything about K,
nor did I have a teacher - I just started out meditating and disciplining
myself, not knowing what to expect. Although I was on my spiritual path,
I had not yet built a good foundation of faith and trust, which I think
is so very important in a Kundalini awakening.
But to do it again? LOL
xxxtg (a former sandcastle builder)
"Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, ''Where have I gone wrong?"
Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one night."
- Charlie Brown of Peanuts
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