1997/09/07 10:41
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #434
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 434
Today's Topics:
Clenched hands
Re: An Observation
Re: An Observation
food, will and working conditions
For_a_word 1N edgeWize: Re-Define ignition swITCH of
"K"onscIOUse nets.0
Re: Kundalini or Suicidal?
RE: life imitates melodrama, dammit
RE: life imitates melodrama, dammit
Feedback from Rick for my response from Gloris
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Re: To equilibrate chakra
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 14:48:30 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Clenched hands
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Dear List:
Just reread the note on clenched hands.. being a sign of strong
attachment.. and then I noted Prince Charles' left hand that he kept
clenching over and over during the walk behind the coffin. Did make me
wonder if that was old Camilia.. the unflowerlike "other" woman. I felt
so sad when I read that Princess Di thought she and Charles made a good
team for Royals.. but that he was no leader.. more like follower...who
should have a community of artists around him. It is ironic that all his
education was to make him a leader.. and he could not be. The same with
his grandfather's brother , Edward. I think the age of kings is dead but
no one has told the Royals ... do you think they will get it now? One
function they do have which is not found without monarchies... they help
us focus emotions on them..they speak unpolitically for the nation...they
can oppose the government as Diana did in supporting unpopular causes and
they are a symbol of "who a nation is" that is not elected by corruption
and lobbying. And I guess we have learned from Charles.. they are all too
human and frail like the rest of us. And perhaps their biggest asset is
that they are human and a reflection of that. It has always been hard for
me to get that excited about the Stars and Stripes.. as an icon.
I wonder at the two icons of compassion, Princess Diana and Mother Teresa
dying in a week and they were living representativesof this unconditional
loving kindness that has been so missing on our planet.. both for people
and for the planet. The recent harmonic here on Maui was about restoring
this energy to the planet.. I felt this huge volcanic eruption of loving
kindness coming up from Haleakala, Maui during the weekend when Arch Angel
Michael was channeled through Ronna Herman there a few weekends ago..it
was so wonderful to feel it OUTSIDE in the world as a living entity.
Did anyone else pick up on this?
*****
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 97 13:47:47 +0200
From: Edward Visse <Edward.VisseATnospamwblab.lu.se>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: An Observation
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>Edward Visse wrote:
>
>> Lately I noticed
>> that if I close my hands it feels a bit congested (I don't know how to
>> describe it in another way). It feels much better to open my hands, so many
>> times a day I get conscious of it and open my hands. When I was younger I
>> also 'closed' my feet (toes curled inward) alot and still do that
>> sometimes. And it is the same there, it feels much better to open up.
>>
>> So I was wondering what this feeling really is. Am I slowing down the
>> energy flow when I close my hand/feet?
>>
>> any comments?
>
>
>In holotropic breath work a typical manifestation is clenched
>hands and or feet. Generally, clenching of the feet corresponds
>to an abstract attachment. The clenching of hands corresponds to
>a very specific attachment. From this perspective, is it possible you
>may be in the process of releasing some specific attachment or pattern?
>
>
>David
Well, that does sound true in some way. I have not really defined what
pattern I'm releasing at the moment, but I think it also caused the change
of my eating habits this spring. I suddenly went from a lot of
snackfood/chips etc. to a diet including much more fruit and amazingly many
cucumbers. The snackfood just does not taste good anymore. It has now has a
'congested' taste. If I would have to give feelings to the taste it would
be one of depression while the fruit taste is uplifting.
Edward
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The above is entirely my view. Your view may be more remote.....
Edward Visse
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S-226 45 Lund no matter what they say"
Sweden Sting
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Date: Sun, 7 Sep 97 13:47:35 +0200
From: Edward Visse <Edward.VisseATnospamwblab.lu.se>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: An Observation
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>In a message dated 97-09-04 12:11:16 EDT, Edward writes:
>
><< It feels much better to open my hands, so many times a day I get
>conscious of it and open my hands... it feels much better to open up. So I
>was wondering what this feeling really is. Am I slowing down the energy flow
>when I close my hand/feet? >>
>
>I'm also wondering about the energy in the hands. Now that I'm getting my
>act together enough to meditate and do yoga fairly regularly, my hands
>sometimes feel like they have a life of their own. They certainly have an
>intensified feeling of energy or vibration. So what next? Try to move the
>energy somewhere else? Ignore it? Hatch eggs?
>
>Peg
Yes, I also feel this vibration sometimes. I think that that is the
activity of my handchackras. I also feel this vibration in other chackras
at times. So what next indeed! My gut reaction was:'if I can feel the
energy in my hands, maybe I should go get some reiki training'. So I am
planning just that (sometime this autumn), but hatching eggs may be a fun
alternative ;-)
Linda wrote(by way of Peg):
>
>Edward, I was super aware of my breath one time and began to
>hyperventilate. I discovered that I was putting too much attention on my
>breathing. I just had to let go of my concern and it seemed to help. Open
>hands are wonderful. So are closed hands and also hands in any other
>position. We are just lucky to have hands and have them be so versatile. Our
>hands seem to know how to do so many things without even thinking about it.
>My hands seem to need to be busy, otherwise I get fixated upon them. i.e.
>biting my nails, picking at things. Guess tha's about it. Linda
If I get your drift, you say "don't pay attention to it, it's OK". And you
are probably right about that. It is just that this change from closed to
open hands seems a bit more significant to me. (and it feels good!) And yes
I'm very happy with my hands :-)
Edward
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The above is entirely my view. Your view may be more remote.....
Edward Visse
Email:
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SnailMail:
Kamnarsvagen 8B:212 "Be yourself,
S-226 45 Lund no matter what they say"
Sweden Sting
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Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 07:56:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: Edward Visse <Edward.VisseATnospamwblab.lu.se>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: food, will and working conditions
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At 01:47 PM 9/7/97 +0200, Edward Visse wrote:
>Well, that does sound true in some way. I have not really defined what
>pattern I'm releasing at the moment, but I think it also caused the change
>of my eating habits this spring. I suddenly went from a lot of
>snackfood/chips etc. to a diet including much more fruit and amazingly many
>cucumbers. The snackfood just does not taste good anymore. It has now has a
>'congested' taste. If I would have to give feelings to the taste it would
>be one of depression while the fruit taste is uplifting.
>Edward
Yes, I was hoping we would start discussing food again. Snack foods feeling
congested, I like the way you said that. It mirrors my feelings about them.
It is habitual for me to want to munch something with a crunch to it and
cucumbers are a current favorite but raw green beans were better. Strips of
bell peppers ( The yellow and red are best) and carrot, etc. The ones from
the farm rather than the market have more crunch. Garbanzo beans are a good
pop-corn substitute.
It amazes me how many raw veggies I can consume in a day <<and>> how little
else I can eat. I really miss processed starchy foods but every time I eat
them I feel, well, congested. I sometimes think I am being guided towards
NO eating <<and>> NO sleeping!! Yikes! It seemed almost doable until I went
back to work after a 2 month summer break. Now I feel sick again and greatly
in need of sleep.
My head is really stuffed up and in distress. Fortunately my symptoms are
severe enough and my work conditions deplorable enough that my employer is
nervous and ready to make changes for me. The school had been sued last
year for making another employee sick. (She dropped the suit when she
retired.) There were pidgeon droppings all around and they were not cleaned
up on any regular schedule. We are a construction site and that makes the
air very bad as well. I am the only staff person who works all day in a new
7000 sq ft building that has really not been cleaned of construction dust.
The third day working in the building I almost passed out. Those who could
do something about it got in the next day and although Hurculean efforts at
cleaning had been made during the intervening night they nonetheless agreed
to more thorough cleaning over the weekend <and> on a regular basis, and
quite a number of HEPA filtration systems will be placed around the biggest
and dirtiest room. I will get more clerical help (I have been begging for
this for 3 years) and more consideration from staff. (How smoothly that part
goes is iffy. Too many irate people not being treated well themselves.)
I had to rant and rave and alomst pass out and then imply there was class
action suit potential to get this. It really saddens me that I had to look
like a litigious bitch to get treated well. {{ Now that I have demonstrated
Will, I wonder how the script will go. Can I break the mold and live
happily ever after, or will I be cut down in my prime? }}
I have hopes I can get my health back and maintain it while working. I have
doubts. I have prayers too though. I am trying to complete a book I have
spent two summers writing and I want to come home from my 'day job' with at
least a little energy for that now secondary pursuit.
I have found that as a kundalini person I tend to assume all my problems are
Kundalini whereas in the current situation it took an enoumous amout of
physical evidence all around me and as well as others being similarly sick
for me to see that there so much else was contributing to my body's problems.
I guess that turned into a bit of a rant. Sorry. If you have any sympathy or
advice I am all ears ( actually only one ear, the other is clogged up again,
dammit!! )
With high regard for
and
much gratitude to
all on this list,
M
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 18:07:41
From: brEYEn Prosser <wakemupATnospameskimo.com> (by way of brEYEnPR0stir <wakemupATnospameskimo.com>) (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
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Subject: For_a_word 1N edgeWize: Re-Define ignition swITCH of
"K"onscIOUse nets.0
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(^yoiks.. the greater signs are sp[reading...
((^ after a while, who said what gets lost in the forwards glancing.
((^see what on earth I ment by that in my " f0R_a_word on Wizedge..." send^))
(^so.. what's this got to do with "kundalini?"
(^..a LOT. some folks seem to think it would be WONDERFUL
(^to have such a thing blowing around in their psyche.
(^but I say this. If you're lucky enough to have a sleeping K,
(^let it be. don't try to raise it. K gets pissed off when
(^awoken prematurely.
(^this is a malady with offshoot benefits.
(^but enlightenment CAN blind you if the lights come up too fast.
((===================HITHERE========================))
(^two unlike copies of "[Fwd: Re: Definitions of Consciousness]"
(^has left me wanting to not sleep tonite.
((^So little time to exPOUND while XplaneYing. Zdern lightwave 3D ^))
((^breathe, brian..make sence..((^...uh... this may take a moment.^))
(^ It has to do with...
(^CONscious. not UNconscious links
(^ to yOur inner/outer : "source"
===========^><v=====v^><^v=======v><^========================
(^Brendan wrote that JS wrote:TWICE.
(^ so, to differentiate this thRead from the "Donald T. McMahon" version,
((^which, hoo BOY! do I want to play with, TOO!^))
(^I've re-quoted what set me offline in the first fit.
---------------------------------------------------------------
JS> Our outsides are our map to our insides.
jestme(^ I like fumbling around in the dark, thanks.
jestme(^... uh.. you gots a copy of that map in braille?
JS>...Separation is an illusion -
jestme(^ and all illUSion takes place in the separation layers.
jestme(^ alpha channel, even!
JS> all longing is for the Source.
jestme(^" the " source(s) tends be get quite altered by "the" final cut.
jestme(^ the long drawn out processing (known as living) comes between.
Brendan>...John, I'm interested in finding "the source" but what is it!
Brendan> A universal glue binding all things together? ((^index_coded^))
Brendan> an invisible energy we can tap into?
((^difference_viewing^))
Brendan> a unifying force at an atomic level?
((^alpha_channel^))
(or all three)....
((^ RGB ^))
((^ohm.. EYE. yes. AND any other source code you can think of, too!^))
Brendan>Please expand.
>Thanks,Brendan..
((^ok,Brendan . y'got me, too.
(^I'm gonnah take a break from working on Xena, warrior princess.
(^just to exp.And on the last few sends I got from awaken.org
(^y'see, I remove wires from Linda Lawless's hips for a living.
(^source material is sent to me on zip disks via UPS, then I meticulously
remove
(^any sign of safety guards (her trapeze harness) from the images.using
Photshop.
(^.. yeah. I know.. "so what?"((^and besides.. I'm DEHfinitely not John !!^))
(^...jest splitting up the wordEdge. endWise. dumb me up, scotchTape.
(^well, working on(special effects)= HIDing truth and CREATing illusions
(^has left me wondering why so many folks would like to wake up?
(^I LIKE my rem sleep, thank you. Dreams are wondrous.
(^..ah.. but to be SEMIconscious is the key, y'see.
(^otherwise, I'd not even KNOW I have dreams.
(^These are pArticles from the last batch of sends I received.
(^I'll re-iterate one more time, bRYEnd ((that's me singular))
(^always marks mEYE words with "(^" .. ok?
(^The greater than signs (">") get used up in the plural mind,
(^known as "USe" or "eWE" .. "yOUR" words all become ONEnest.
(^but, because " I " ((^brEYE^)) tend to smear thinGking patterns so badly,
(^and don't want to make everyONE think this place is FULL of fools,
(^I separate my typings,(mark my words..) yet schtick around for the show.
(^thaz jestme, tho. always room fer another royal court harlequin.
(^pick a sign.. ANY character, and plop in front of what you say.
(^I'd recognize you sinGLUEar faster .
(^ pinpointing personalities in the midst of ALL ONE is,
(^ what I see, as....
(^a useful illusion filter.
((^knOW... If I twist some other's words , I'll mark that ">" with "><". ok?
(^ protocol keeps us from altering each other's words, right?
(^WRONG. we merely edit. as in CUT OUT instead of PLUG IN.
(^This isn't out of meaness. just space saving.
(^but, sometimes, the conTEXT gets lost.
(^wannah see? wait for
(^f0R_a_word on Wizedge:
((^sub channelerd: " Re-EDific8 ipsWITCH of cONsc10weUSe nets.2"^))
=======
inresponse to everybody who feels this way:
> I've been reading your posts on Awaken,
> i like your wordplay,though it is a bit difficult to follow,
>it requires ATTENTION.
____
(^>.v.<^) ...(^that would be, yes. hence my e-mail name of 3 years.
*+*
wakemup.
((^><.. is that wake 'EM up, or wake ME up, dyslexically speaking?^))
((^..a-touch of both. touch`e.
(^If anyone has the default spell checker that comes with Eudora Pro,vs2.1.2,
(^ and WANTS to get the full blown, uncompressed, out of contR0LL
(^ version off what '(^brEYE^)' 'spscreachks'
(^move the in mail from '^wakemup^' to out.. then scan with the spell
checker.
(^..other than that, I'll TRY to follow these.. "conventions".
((^blah blah blah^)) = me whispereing to self
(^anygosh dern thang = me mumbling out loud
*>, or *>> etc... =somebody else from the past mumbling
QUOTATIONS: *>< = 'altared' by (^Bri^)
(^ 'forrum' now on, I'm going to use the unshifted quote to mark
(^ 'perposely' 'mispelled' words in my e-mails that meander when
spellchecked.
(^ NOW..personally, I 'proffer" to let EVERYone see/look/ATnospamwhat.i'm typing,
(^ but that's info overload for many.
(^AND...if I get an idea from something sent to me,
(^ I WANT PERMISSION to beam it OUT to somewhere.
(^ ANYwhere.
(^ just to relieve the pressure on MY cashing system..
(^ nets' cape full? HA! my BRAIN is 'prossesSing' faster
(^ and more data than any silly c0hmpUter!
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 14:30:12
From: SchrLLATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini or Suicidal?
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Michelle,
Please do yourself a favor and get help, for both of you ASAP. This kind of
situation can only get worse. Love and Light Linda, the Rose
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 14:31:25
From: David Tompkins <gurudaveATnospamsoback.kornet.nm.kr> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: life imitates melodrama, dammit
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cj wrote:
On Mon, 1 Sep 1997, M wrote:
> we need to see willful women suceed and lead long full lives. It is one of
> the directions I thought human evolution was headed in just now. And,
> perhaps it still is, but she did not choose to model that.
If this would happen I believe men would have to develop a weak will
accordingly, and society would have to become matriarchal in order to keep
up the attraction (and continued procreation of the species, I
suspect nature isn't aware of test tubes ;) ). Basic Yin-Yang. Not to be
seen as woman-bashing or something similar (though I also suspect some
will try hard to see it as such), just a reflection.
I strongly disagree that men would have to develop a weaker will for
"willful women (to) suceed and lead long full lives". Instead I think men
will have to develop a stronger will accordingly. Weak people want others
to be less. Strong people want others to be greater.
Peace,
The Ox.
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 10:35:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: David Tompkins <gurudaveATnospamsoback.kornet.nm.kr> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: life imitates melodrama, dammit
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At 02:31 PM 9/5/97, David Tompkins wrote:
>I strongly disagree that men would have to develop a weaker will for
>"willful women (to) suceed and lead long full lives". Instead I think men
>will have to develop a stronger will accordingly. Weak people want others
>to be less. Strong people want others to be greater.
>
>Peace,
>The Ox.
Yes, yes, yes.
M
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 02:05:33
From: MsSheWolfATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Feedback from Rick for my response from Gloris
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Missed this one.. sending it on belatedly.. List Mystress..
In a message dated 9/2/97 4:36:09 AM, SnowLion97ATnospamAOL.com wrote in response to
a my response to Gloria, which I shared with him:
<<
Dear Cher,
Nice letter....a couple of points though.....
CherGoddess wrote....
"Once I was lying in bed in the dark and I asked God to just give me a sign
so that I would know that he/she was real, and suddenly I was floating in a
sea of stars where i could see all of these stars all around me and I could
think about them and where I was and marvel at the whole thing. I am
convinced I either had an out-of-body experience, or that is was really a
sign. Later, I found I could do this at will, but my friend, Rick, says it
sounds more like visualization."
What you described to me was something that probably fell under your ability
to do
this at will......which did sound like a visualization. I don't recall your
describing
this original experience at least in connection with what i called a
visualization.
I remember telling you about an acid trip around 70-71 where i was looking
down on
my body, and then on the entire planet, as if from space....but i'm not sure
if that was in connection to you telling me about this or not...as that was
around January
or February. Anyway it seems new to me in the context you put it here.....i
am not
sure if i would call this an OBE or a visualization....it could be
either....and there are
(at least) two types of visualizations.....creative ones that you will
yourself.....and
ones that you receive which could be revelations......the experience you
describe
here does sound like a revelation.....and as such could be very
important......it does
seem to contain symbology that could be related to God/dess. Also, i hope
you
didn't feel that my reference to your experience as a visualization was in
any way
downgrading it. Visualizations have always been a very significant aspect of
spiritual
experience.
CherGoddess also wrote....
"There have been a few psychic experiences, and on occasion, I feel somewhat
omnipotent, but quickly push that aside because I don't really believe that
is true...just when certain things come about that seemed to be willed by me.
Believe me, I am humble and claim no higher place than my own body."
Believe it.....you can will things. The true inner you is omnipotent....get
in touch with it. Stop pushing these things aside.......being humble has it's
place.....but first accept
that you really are Goddess......then be humble. Practice it......I AM
Goddess........
don't be afraid......the time comes when we need to get in touch with our
true self.
then the Goddess wrote....
"The marriage is quite odd, and I gave up on trying to move it in a more
normal direction, but we sleep in separate rooms and are not sexual. He is,
however, very kind to me and loves me. I often remind myself that there are
many women who would give anything to trade places with me. Still, I feel
lonely, and I look to my many women friends as my support, although, since
moving here, I have no immediate friends in the area."
You don't mean American women do you? The women who would trade places with
you don't have anything to give.....starving people in 3rd world countries
come to mind. (i am not being nice .... enough on this)
"Since I got back from this trip to Ventura County, I have had extremely
vivid dreams, nightmares...nothing that seems to be related to the physical
manifestation I encountered, but extremely negative and often directed at me.
When I awake it takes some time for me to let it go, like it is still
controlling me."
I wish you would write these down and send them to me.
"However, the first two times I saw it, I was terribly frightened and if it
was so powerful, why didn't it take us. I imagine if I had turned around and
seen it in the Murietta, I would have experienced tremendous fear and panic
would have have been generated in the group. Still, why didn't it take us?
These answers have never surfaced in my life."
What do you think it was? Why do you assume it was so powerful ? What do you
mean "why didn't it take us".....take you in what way? kill you or
what?....why do you
think that was it's intent? what makes you think it had any power to take you
in any
way? Perhaps it is something that thrives on fear and panic of others.
Perhaps it is
something else entirely. Perhaps it is quite harmless. Perhaps you have power
over
it if you will to use it. If you feel this thing has some sort of hold on you
you need to
banish it. Perhaps it wants to be banished. Don't really know. Maybe you know
if
you really ask yourself. In any case i'll stand by you....here and now....as
well as out
there in California if you really want to go face this thing.
Love You,
Rick>>
Dear Rick,
You are such a wonderful support for me. Thank you for your sharing your
views about the aspects of my response to Gloria around my experience with
the white-eyed entity I encountered several times in California. I am moving
much more rapidly into a conciousness that will allow me to be more in touch
with myself as Goddess. My faith has been somewhat skewed by my negative
living situation, and I find it difficult to pursue more deeply into my sense
of self and the higher power and the universe.
I will try to remember to write down my dreams (nightmares) for you, as you
seem interested in helping me ascertain a connection to what I am dealing
with here. I haven't felt this spiritually unhealthy in many years.
As far as the fear when encountering it and my question about why wouldn't it
have taken us if it was so powerful, I really don't know what I mean by that
statement. It just seemed that it must want me for some reason, and I didn't
want to endanger my friends. Maybe it was not threatening me, but was merely
observing me for some reason. That is why I have often thought it was my
grandfather, because that area was his world and I was his favorite
grandchild. I was rebellious as a teenager and I am not proud of the things
I did during that time period (remember this was the late 60's & early 70's)
and perhaps he was concerned about my behavior with males and the risk I
presented to myself).
Something else that I forgot to say to the list and to Gloria is that I have
been dealing recently with the death of my mother. A lot has surfaced
through this, and I have been thinking much more about death, including my
own. I have always believed as the Native Americans do, "from the stars we
came, and to the stars we will return." These also parallels the belief of
Depok Chopra, who says that we exchange cells every day, and could at this
time be breathing in the cells of Napoleon or Jesus Christ. I am adamant
about being cremated and returned to the earth, and through my processing my
mother's death, my husband whom is very scientifically oriented and has not
spiritual system, tells me that he has always planned that if I should
preceed him in death, his plan is to scatter my ashes in the Murietta!!! My
response to that was horror, saying, "you were going to throw me to this entit
y who wants me for some reason??? Why would you do that to me? His response
was "because I know that place has always been special to you."
My question is, could this entity be reaching him too in order to bring me
back to it? I told my husband never to follow through with this plan, but
now I am wondering myself if that is where I need to be. I can't seem to
stay centered on this. I am starting scare myself. Rick, I appreciate your
support and feedback, and I also would welcome any suggestions or insights
from the wonderful people on the list.
Love, Cher (Goddess)
MsSheWolfATnospam aol.com
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 00:23:14
From: SchrLLATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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In a message dated 97-09-06 08:35:38 EDT, you write:
<< "well what happens next phase"??? >>
The answer has not been given yet , has it Candy? No wonder. I too have the
same question. Chop wood, carry water? No one does that much anymore, do
they? Franky, I GOT BORED WITH BLISS. Oops, was I too loud? Or was anyone
even listening? It feels great but, life does go on and this is a per=fectly
good question. What hapens next? How about it folks? Follow your
dreams? Life sucks? Murder your Ego, Get laid or
..............................What's next? Linda
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 00:23:42
From: SchrLLATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: To equilibrate chakra
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In a message dated 97-09-06 08:49:09 EDT, you write:
<< From: awp.win-winATnospamsympatico.ca (awp) >>
Why does everyone blame sex on their K problems? Frankly, I found that more
sex helped me deal with my Kundalini. I just needed to learn to be
discerining about the level of realtionship I was in. Less sex only seemed to
block me and irritate my system which was begining to flow and open up for a
change. (shockwaves throughout the internet)......................... the
Rose O;-)
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