1997/09/03 09:31
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #427
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 427
Today's Topics:
Re: energy place, (ENcircle)
Re: Kundalini Help
Re: Kundalini Help
Enough of Di
Re: the masses
Piercing the Eyes
RE: page from my diary
Re: Aerobics+Prana
karma
Gate, Gate, Par Gate, Para Gate, Bodhi, Svaha
Re: Enough of Di
Re: Aerobics+Prana
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 22:32:49
From: brEYEnPR0stir <wakemupATnospameskimo.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: energy place, (ENcircle)
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>I once knew a girl who had set up a spot.....
(^ya just HAD to ask. sigh.
>too much. We each took a turn standing there
>and the energy rush was incredible.
(^putting personized psyche into an earthspace (altar)
(^or object (fetish) or being (human or animal or plant)
(^always has an undercurrent loop of alternating current. yes.
>I cannot find this girl who has moved away
>and I would love to know what she did to open this up.
(^I make those spaces all over this country. I call it focusing.
>When I finally went back later(years), the grass was grown over
> and there was no energy spot left.
(^not true. the energy is there; dormant. not gone. just left not in use.
(^that energy lies waiting to link up anywhere you want it!
(^ make a sacred space yourself. re-charge/re-pair the one left by the girl,
(^ if it suits you. You seem to remember that space with fondness..
(^which is ALways a plus when setting up sacred dialog spots.
>
>Does anyone know or have suggestions?
(^no more knowing. blocks the learning. no suggestions. just options.
(^ what you choose is your own path generater.
(^but with too little back-up data, many folks are too timid to move forwards.
>
>Curiously,
>John Halonen
>
(^I can't go into all of this at the moment: I wish I had time to,
(^but my work is calling me. Let me just stick this little buzz in yOur
ear..ok?
(^that space you found? they used to be EVERYWHERE.
(^what happened to them?
(^..television.
(^american human's focus turned away from organic altar creation
(^and towards the simpler method of take: no give: namely?
(^ absorbing prana via un-natural resources, fabricated by others
(^to entertain while possibly enlightening, too.
(^the internet contact (re-inter-activated) is now re-placing the
(^slothmode boob tube doscile shut up and listen formatte.
(^.. and gurus/story-tellers, are starting to allow the listeners
(^ to interupt/alter the flow of information that creates
(^ the path(s) of enlightenment, in order to reach new goals
(^ not concieved of by the guru/storyteller.
(^ the largest dillusion humans seem to face,
(^is the belief that "making points" is the goal of "following" spiritual
linkpaths.
(^storys MUST have a "point".. right? (yeah, right.. then what's left?)
(^life /memory/places/events\training\actions\repercussions\memory
(^just a series of points. dots. quadrant lables.
(^the.."POINT"... is not to lable. the point is not NOT to lable, either.
(^lables are nothing more than signifiers; to enable the users to retrieve
(^locations of the psychic evolutionary ebb and flo without getting too lost.
(^ don't confuse the messenger with the message.
(^but it may be helpful to LINK the two,
(^in order to recall what the massage was.
(^I find the fear of play almost as mind boggling as
(^the belief that play is the answer.
(^the lobster/snake fest of late was profioundly funny to me.
(^I wonder iof I'm the only one that thought they were in
(^cohoots, all along....good cop/bad cop ploy to stretch
(^those too used to TV mindsets fingerdigits to the point
(^of re-activational mode.
(^but, nope. It took a princess getting hit up by
(^wannah see everythingers(paparatTHIS, folks)
(^to get fingers twitching and minds dancing.
(^sigh.. I guess we still got a way to go.
(^I'm glad I'm gonna see portugese art soon, tho.
(^If for no other reason, I'm glad to see that happen
(^and feel as if my little diatribe about language barriers helped
(^enable Segio to find the propper ... "lables"
(^to get an American audiance .
(^you want to know where to find new sacred space?
(^1. everywhere you bother to focus. newer area to find?
(^2. webspace(altars)
(^3. gif+jpegs (fetishes)
(^4. newsgroups (beings)
(^uh... was that clear enough folks?
(^no word games to de-pointalize the picture?
(^go0DD. I need to stop typing like this.
(^It leaves me drained of energy to make blunt statements
(^that come across arrogant, instead of superfluous.
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 00:23:23
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: John Living <jlivingATnospamdirect.ca>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini Help
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My weekend at a pagan retreat:
Spent over an hour working to heal a friend who was in great pain from
pleursy.. he expressed gratitude, and the opinion: I've had less intimate
sex.. He was aware of how deep into his being I was going.. his Lady came
by later to thank me most beautifully, she could see the change in him..
and to thank me yet again for the healing on her back at Beltane.
Came across a young woman by the fire, got into conversation about
spirit, and used my energy to awaken her more fully, bringing her K. the
rest of the way up out her crown chakra. I taught her to draw the K. in
with her breath, and blow it out with unconditional love to another.. and
she marveled as the tired looking girl she had aimed at across the wide
fire circle got more color into her cheeks. I opened her third eye more
widely, so she could see the K.fire waves coming off the mountains across
the lake, and feel the quiet sentience of the lake itself..
She spent most of the rest of the weekend sleeping as her physical body
caught up to the changes.
A friend at a meeting was trying to speak of an emotionally abusive event
she had experienced. Too distraught to be clear, so I moved behind her and
supported her with my hands in her back, and my K. She called last evening
to say had not know who was behind her until I sat down again.. she had
been too focused on trying to speak.. she left the meeting shortly after,
and 10 minutes later experienced what she described the hottest hot flash
she had ever experienced, even her breath was hot. The purpose of her call
was to thank me, she recognized that the energy burning her fear away was
mine. The result of the call was an agreement to teach empowerment classes
for the women of the pagan community to which we belong.
I led a 5 hour sacred sexuality workshop that covered everything from
communication between the sexes, using archtypes to understand behavior
patterns beteen genders, grounding, using love energy to heal, and
finishing with couples learning where her G-spot and his prostrate are, the
basics of Tantra.. latex gloves provided.
Other things, too small and many to mention, absorbing fear and
instilling greater faith in Goddess' unconditional love whenever She seemed
to provide an opportunity.
It is wonderful to do this work in such a community of aware people, they
recognize what I am doing and thank me so beautifully I blush.. I need to
expand to take in their gratitude gracefully. It feels odd because I am
accustomed to doing such work more covertly, without expectation of thanks,
simply for the joy of the work itself.
Blessings, Serpent.
At 11:06 02/09/97 -0500, John Living wrote:
>But how many members are using their gifts to help others in normal life ?
>
>By help I mean effort by the individual - excluding prayer, joining to
>'make the world better', and the expected healing/psychological help.
>I am sure that there are many on the list who are being active in doing
>good - if you could respond by indicating how you do this, you would be
>setting a good example for others to follow !
>John Living
>
>
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
:D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
Swami Beyondananda on the Golden Rule: "It seems that when
masochists do unto others as they wish to be done unto, they
become sadists," the Swami said. "Consequently, the Golden Rule
has been recalled by the Maker until this design flaw can be fixed."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 00:09:13 -0700
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: "John Living (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)" <jlivingATnospamdirect.ca>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini Help
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John Living (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have just joined the Kundalini List, and spent the long weekend
> reading all the available archived posts. The vast majority of them are
> concerned only with our own problems - which are often many, and this list
> is a wonderful place to get help - I, too, am learning from these posts !
>
> Some of the members are using their gifts for helping others in
> psychological ways - including Reiki and other healing.
>
> But how many members are using their gifts to help others in normal life ?
>
> By help I mean effort by the individual - excluding prayer, joining to
> 'make the world better', and the expected healing/psychological help.
>
> I ask this since in many cases the endeavours of yoga participants (and
> others) gives the appearance of being very selfish - aimed at raising
> their own level of awareness for their own advancement, including
> recognition as teachers - with no contribution to the general good.
>
> My personal opinion is that we are here to do good; that if we fail
> to use our gifts actively to help the world then we are not doing our
> job.
>
> I am sure that there are many on the list who are being active in doing
> good - if you could respond by indicating how you do this, you would be
> setting a good example for others to follow !
>
> I am presently writing my 'Kundalini resume' and will post it in the
> next day or so.
>
> John Living
John,
I spent hours serving bread and soup in charity kitchens...donating time
to those in need, money and food, etc. Mail campaigns for environmental
groups, donations and marches for freedom of body and soul. I was
feeling fragile and exhausted by it. And nothing was really changed.
When I went within, I saw that I had been contributing to the cycle of
suffering. I can affect more change in the world by changing myself
within. I'm also one of the healers, but those who meditate and heal the
earth for one hour a week and spend the rest of the week doing data
entry are also doing more than ten people in a charity kitchen.
Morgana
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 00:19:32 -0700
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Enough of Di
Message-ID: <340D0F84.411BATnospambest.com>
Okay, enough of Di..as Angelique said, this has nothing to do with
kundalini. Just a few personal comments, 'cause I've been so impatient
with this thread;
1. we're not really attached to death, are we?
2. We can feel sad when any young, beautiful peron dies, but I feel more
when, for example, a mother of young twins dies because I think of the
babies left behind and that mother could have been poor and plain.
3. People who knew her well said over the years that she wasn't that
bright or that good-hearted, but she had a well-crafted public image
4. All famous people have an aura which is magnetic, it is the
reflection of all of the awareness centered on them and not intrinsic to
their character.
5. I think as often of her in death as she did of me in life.
6. The news is full of this, so are the coffee shops, let's focus on
anything else, anything would be more rewarding than gossiping about a
celebrity dead or alive.
Morgana
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 01:37:30
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: awp <awp.win-winATnospamsympatico.ca> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: the masses
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Serpent has a plan.. to write a book and become both famous and
notorious, to lure consumer culture into reading and watching interviews
with me on talk shows by the curiosity of their "baser instincts", and the
media insisting that I am claiming to be Satan when my book clearly says
there is no such being, and then K. awaken the readers by word.. talking
about Goddess unconditional love and perfection... catching consumer
culture by such complete surprise, there is little resistance.
If fundamentalist preachers can do shaktipat over TV, so can Serpent..
except I will get a waaaaay wider audience.
My sister said to another sibling who passed it on to me, once, judged
that the reason why I found most people to be interested in my BDSM
lifestyle, was just like the way most people cannot help but look at a
traffic accident. Fascinating because it's horrible.
I thought about this for a looooong time, and came to the clarity that
they are related, sex and death and life and love.. why we look, why BDSM
fascinates..
Recently, I have been blessed with additional clarity..
a celebrity or spiritual person who has the absolute and almost universal
attention getting power of a car accident has been given very great power
indeed... and what better use to put it to, but to go after that 100'th
monkey in consumer culture and TV land? A dominatrix who is caliming
skillfully to be the Serpent from Eden, and enlightened, and gorgeous,
charismatic and an eloquent best selling author, a great interview
subject.. I made made to do this, to play out this role for full effects.
I probably would not have the guts to do this, except I finally figured
out that that is exactly what I am doing, in the strange "talk show" dreams
I have been having since about 1982... they have been sent back thru time
from my future self. The words I have heard myself saying in them have been
an inspiration to me, but I have only recently understood that the slight
commotion that always causes the interview to be gracefully drawn to an end
by a nervous interviewer trying to regain control of his audience.. is K.
awakening happening in audience members, in response to what I am saying..
My reasons for being on the talk show were always vague.. when I was
studying acting, it was to promote a movie.. yet they never ran a clip of
the film, in the dream interviews. Always, I turned the interview to
spiritual topics and life issues, speaking more eloquently than I ever
could do, then, in life.
Don't worry, my book will contain plenty of references where awakened
folks can learn more about their K., once my book has begun to draw them to
Goddess.. of course there may be some folks who think their awakening is
proof I am satan or whatever.. but those folks I trust to Goddess' hands.
Diana this weekend has caused me to ponder more deeply whether or not I
will enjoy being famous.. but unlike her, if I get tired of it I can
disappear into obscurity with my bag of cash and start a pagan BDSM
community somewhere in the wilds of B.C. and continue casting healing
spells on the planet. Writing under another name and not granting interviews.
I do this not because it is "needed", but because it is the most fun, the
most love and light and amusement I can think of, as a way to spend the
next few years, with the nice side effect of bringing me money with which
to find even more light and amusement and joy in creation.
Blessings, Serpent.
At 22:11 01/09/97, awp wrote:
>Hi M again,
Spiriual role models are difficult
>to find because they are not celebrated by the consumer culture in whch
>we live. If spiritual leaders are not interested in materialism (they
>may be quite critical of such shallow consumption and the allarming
>rates and direction of life force) they may be against the very cause
>that could present them wider means of communication, that of media and
>fame.
>Namaste and Joy
>Grrrl Jonah
>
>
>
>
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
:D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
Swami Beyondananda on the Golden Rule: "It seems that when
masochists do unto others as they wish to be done unto, they
become sadists," the Swami said. "Consequently, the Golden Rule
has been recalled by the Maker until this design flaw can be fixed."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 23:03:52 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Piercing the Eyes
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Hi K. List.
Well I have recently been feeling something very odd..and wonder if others
can give light on it. I recently had another K.List buddy here from
Australia and we both had the delightful experience of "disappearing" for
short periods. It was really fun. I was in such a calm and dispassionate
place during these moments. I found that I had absolutely "no thoughts"
for long periods of time and got a little bored with that.. but in the
midst of this I felt my eyes being pierced by the Kundalini. It is a very
strange feeling.. like a thin needle.. and I felt them drawn upwards into
my head and a lot of energy was discharged. This weekend I developed a
sort of red tinge to one eye with a slight bruising ... and it shows no
signs of leaving after 3 days. Any suggestions..? I figure it is some
latent problem being cleansed. The vision is normal. I just look as if I
have cried for a week!
Ruth
*****
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 02:06:10
From: David Tompkins <gurudaveATnospamsoback.kornet.nm.kr> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: page from my diary
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I'm sending this posting again, because my letters don't seem to be getting
through. Sorry for any duplication.
Ram wrote:
. This also gives us an idea by which we can change our
nature. If we are hating some object at a certain instant , keeping that
object in front of our mind , we instead start filling in love or maitry.
Sometimes this may be difficult to do as mind may not obey but if our will
power is more than the force of hatred, we will succeed. Even if we fail
in our first attempt , we will be able to weaken the force of hatred .
Second attempt will bring in success.
This is particularily applicable to me today. I had one of those "I hate
this country" days. Some secondary thoughts:
1) I've noticed that when I'm irritable I'm also slouching, as if I'm
channelling my energy and blocking it in the third center.
2) Straightening the back and controlled breathing into the second center
(this is my particular discipline; I'm sure other forms of controlled
breathing would work just as well) provides an alternative to the recyling
of anger.
Peace,
The Ox
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 02:07:33
From: "Hannah A. Kimsey/John S. Siegel" <jssaekATnospamc2i2.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Aerobics+Prana
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You asked if there is a relationship between aerobic activity and prana.
The classic approach is that you are born with a predetermined number of
heartbeats in your life, and that anything that you do cause the heart
to beat in an excessive fashion is counterproductive to longevity (i.e.,
it represents a useless expediture of prana). The following citations
would be the classic hatha texts (i.e., Gheranda Samhita and the Hatha
Yoga Pradipkha). This is the classic view about doing aerobics or
engaging in heavy physical labor, especially for any prolonged period of
time.
In the modern approach to hatha yoga (i.e., what Westerners consider
physical yoga) that is taken by the BKS Iyengar school of yoga, as well
as what is referred to as Ashtanga yoga as propounded by TKV Desikachar
and Pattabois Jois, there is an advocacy of a more strenuous & aerobic
aspect of yoga.
You are asking whether it is good to break a sweat or not in the
practice of hatha yoga. My personal feeling is that it is perfectly fine
to stimulate the heart, provided it is counterbalanced by proper
relaxation techniques (especially doing Savasana, the corpse's pose).
If you are truly concerned about the Western view of the health
effectiveness of yoga, then i would consult "The Therapeutic Value of
Yoga," by The Himilayan Institute, "Yoga and Medicine," by Steven F.
Brena, M.D., and assorted treatises on the health benefits of yoga. Let
us know if you want some more titles.
Most Westerners concentrate on asana and somewhat on pranayama but
neglect the rules governing bathing, eating, and relaxation after these
practices. It is vital to practice all the aspects of yoga and
observances for purposes of deriving maximum benefit (i.e., the
conservation and utlization of prana). For example, the practices build
what the yogic masters call "ojas," which is contained in your sweat and
which should not be bathed off for a minimum of 30 minutes after asana
so that the body can observe what it has built. If you need desire more
information than this, let us know.
Ultimately, any activity that is performed with consciousness, albeit
mental, physical, or emotional, can be called yoga and is capable of
building prana.
In peace,
Hannah and John
> >
> >
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 02:09:58
From: Mike Beaver <yodaATnospamband1.bandwidth.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: karma
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Dear Mr. Peswani, and All:
I found your story quite interesting. Though I cannot comment on much
of it I can say something about that which my own observations concur
with.
S.R.Peswani wrote:
> The answers that gave me utmost satisfaction were as follows:
> First:- God or no God , one gets fruits of his karmas and the method is
> very scientific
In my opinion karma is something far more than has been written about
in most books. Not only does it come back to you in multiple lifetimes
but it can come back to you within a single day, or in a very brief
time.
Any time one does any thing which is against the programming which
society has programmed your subconscious mind with your subconscious
mind is given a message which it records (as it does every moment of
your life) that it is unworthy of love.
I will give you an example: One lady whose leg had NO circulation to
speak of, which I worked with in only one session, got this condition as
a result of the emotions that were passed to her by her mother at the
moment of her conception. She had been conceived out of wedlock and the
mother felt very guilty about this fact. The programming in this case
was the mother's and not the childs. Her church, her society (us, since
we are all one anyway) had programmed the mother to believe this. And so
the subconscious programming was passed to the child also.
which has survived through nature experimenting for
> Billions of years at Billions of Universes and with
> Billions of lives . We record our karmas through kalapas in our body as
> per our actions and thoughts every instant and they play back and give
> their rewards at a suitable time.
THE BODY=THE SUBCONSCIOUS MIND:
The above case was no different from the client I knew who gained a
great deal of weight from the abuse she received from her husband. Not
unlike the lady with the leg, her body manifested the lack of self love
programmed into her subconscious.
In the case of the overweight lady, through a year of working on her
self through self hypnosis she lost the weight.
For whatever reason the lady with the leg chose not to go finish the
therapy. As a result she is now on the other side. From what I've
observed it's not that bad over there; so we shouldn't mourn her choice
not to be healed in this particular incarnation.
The body does indeed manifest what is in the subconscious mind because
it is a physical representation of the subconscious mind. After this
subconscious mind builds up enough negative negative events then a
touch, taste, or smell will trigger the release of this negative energy
into the general system manifesting in disease.
It is sad that the vast majority of people 99.999999999999999999%
donnot realize that through the subconscious mind is where almost ALL
disease manifests; even AIDS.
Sincerely;
Mike Beaver
yodaATnospamband1.bandwidth.net
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of the mind, that you may prove what is the will of God, what is good
and acceptable.--- Romans 12 2
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Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 11:25:24 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Gate, Gate, Par Gate, Para Gate, Bodhi, Svaha
Message-ID: <340DAB94.3935ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
S.R.Peswani wrote:
> Today that is Dec.96 , I beleive that all the religions and
> Prophets are correct and every thing in this Universe is going perfectly
> well . Nothing but nothing is wrong . Even wars and killers have place in
> this universe of ours. All life is but one. My God is in the form of
> evolutionised intelligent energy which is surviving aagainst ignorant
> chaotic energy of this universe . Life is converting this chaotic
> unintelligent energy ( matter is also a form of energy ) into intelligent
> energy by evolution and is guided by the Intelligent Energy unerringly and
> straight so that we merge in becoming God when we reach our home.
Very difficult and profound realisation.
Child dying - Right.
Mother tortured - Right.
"Profanity" of death, destruction and bitter misery - Right.
It is God. It is not God. It is God. It is terrible, it is wonderful. In
all its imperfection - it is perfect.
However knowing this,
we still increase the good
and work towards an ideal of lessening suffering.
Knowing this we continue to nurture, encourage, support and develop our
own and others Being.
> Here I am reminded of Bodhisattva Heart Sutra in Pali language.
> Gate, gate , par gate , para gate , Bodhi , swaha. It means gone , gone,
> gone beyond , gone altogether beyond, O what an awakening , all hail.
May all those who Strive
Find
and in finding strive evermore
Love and Blessings
Lobster
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 05:00:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: morganaATnospambest.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Enough of Di
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At 12:19 AM 9/3/97 -0700, Morgana Wyze wrote:
>Okay, enough of Di..as Angelique said, this has nothing to do with
>kundalini. Just a few personal comments,
Morgana,
Once again, I want to say, perhaps more clearly this time, that I was trying
to initiate a discussion about the common myth that once a woman develops
some will she'll die. To me this 'death' was insignifigant except as a very
attention-getting repitition of that trite old myth.
Maybe someday we can have that discussion. Certainly not now it seems.
M
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 06:48:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: "Hannah A. Kimsey/John S. Siegel" <jssaekATnospamc2i2.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Aerobics+Prana
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At 02:07 AM 9/3/97, Hannah A. Kimsey/John S. Siegel wrote:
>You asked if there is a relationship between aerobic activity and prana.
>You are asking whether it is good to break a sweat or not in the
>practice of hatha yoga. My personal feeling is that it is perfectly fine
>to stimulate the heart, provided it is counterbalanced by proper
>relaxation techniques (especially doing Savasana, the corpse's pose).
If you need desire more
>information than this, let us know.
>
Hannah and John,
Thanks for the information. I have a friend in her early 60's who has a
very healthy lifestyle and diet (Sai Baba type) and still experiences very
high blood pressure in sudden bursts. She also believes in sleeping in
corpse pose - hands folded over heart. Do you think the blood pressure and
sleeping position could be related? I intuitively feel they are. I think
that pose is not for everynight use, in my experience anyway. What would you
say?
M
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