1997/08/19 22:53
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #404
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 404
Today's Topics: Re: NDEs?
Re: White Powder of Gold Shaktipat in Ohio
Re: brahmacarya and healing Re: Shaktipat in Ohio
Re: Subtle sound Re: Raising Kundalini [was: Vomiting]
blocks and bits Anger release
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 15:46:54 From: Nancy Kar (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent )
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: NDEs?
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Sharon Webb wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Has anyone else had this experience?
Hi Sharon,
My first NDE was a walkout experience while I was meditating, as a
depressed teenager. I decided that I wanted to die and so I stopped breathing... until the group meditation leader came over and shook me.
The second time it was while I was giving birth to my first son... both times I slipped out of my body and went in a downward direction to
a black 'floaty' place, it felt like a womb and I was naked, it was cold and damp there but I was able to gather myself before the tunnel
appeared. The first time I went down the tunnel and talked with 'elders'. The second time I literally freaked and was screaming to let
me live so that I could take care of my child, instead of going down the tunnel, I was in the room and heard my son being delivered by a section.
So yes I do think that you were a pretty sick little girl and were
lingering on the verge of death, I'm sorry to say. It must have been very frightening for you..
but you wanted to live. One thing that I have learned from my experiences is that we have all made commitments for our lives, with
ourselves and others. But we ultimately have choice to carry on or die. only the second time did I hear a buzzing noise or sort of a strong
static noise, mixed in with the voices of the operating room.
It's funny that you mention the 'evil' comment because when I had my first son I was going through a 'reborn christian' phase in my life and
my first thought on finding myself there in that dark place was, Oh my God.. I'm going to Hell:)
But then I remembered that first time I went to the same dark place, went down the tunnel and talked to some very old and wise men in robes
with long white beards... so we know that the trip from the dark place is to a good place :)
take care namaste
Nancy WaterFall
>
> When I was a little kid I was sick for a long time. Started having very > frightening experiences which happened fairly often. I later came to
> believe they were a type of near death experience. A pulsating roar > would start---very rhythmic, very low-pitched. Each pulse lasted about a
> second. I can still remember it in great detail. The roar would get > louder and louder and then suddenly I would be drawn into a dark
> tunnel---backwards. I was always facing away from the far end of the > tunnel. The tunnel was always cool and dark. I was swept away incredible
> distances at what seemed incredible speed. And all the while the volume of > the pulsing roar would increase. Then it would stop and I'd start going
> very rapidly back to my body. I used to be so afraid when the noise > started because I knew what it meant. I have had a few similar experiences
> (but not exact, nor as intense---and the sound was different) as an adult > about ten years ago when my blood sugar would plunge precipitously.
> > And, BTW, I told a very small group of people about the tunnel experience
> last year. One woman's reaction: she looked me in the eye and suggested > that since I didn't see the light I was probably evil! Sheesh...I was six
> years old. Somehow, I don't believe that woman was seeing much light. :-) >
> And speaking of reactions, when I, in confidence, told a long-time friend > about my K experiences, she said, "Maybe you're going crazy." I had been
> warned by other K people that sooner or later this would happen, but I > guess it's always a shock when it does.
> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 21:29:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: White Powder of Gold Message-ID:
In a message dated 97-08-17 08:39:35 EDT, you write:
< This "sound" intensifies if I hold crystals, and I hear the same "sound"
from redwood trees. Pure crystal vibrates it I hold it, to 900megahertz, an engineering friend did a rough measure of it. Does anyone else hear this
sound? Like crystal singing. >>
Dear Morgana,
I have heard the sound ever since the kundalini started moving in March. I have never heard crystals singing, but I went to my piano and found that the
sound that I hear is close in frequency to the F natural one octave above middle C, although it doesn't sound like a piano note. Then later I found a
book on healing with colors that said that F is the sound of the heart chakra, and its color is green. At the time it made perfect sense to me
because my aura is mainly emerald green (with parts that are violet, white, and cobalt blue). And then I read in "The Secret Doctrine" by Madame
Blavatsky that kundalini is the "Fa of human nature." In the musical solfege, Fa is F natural in the C scale (Do, Re, Mi, Fa, Sol, etc.) So I
just figured I was tuned into the right frequency.
I have no experience with crystals, except that I bought one several months ago. It's a pale amythest that grows in water in a flower shape. I bought
it because I thought it looked like how I would imagine chakra energy. When I had one of my headaches right in the middle of my forehead, I thought I
would put the crystal over it and see if it would make my forehead feel any better. Big mistake. Somehow it actually amplified the pain to the point
that I added that episode to my annals of rip snortin' headaches. So ended my first and last foray into crystal healing.
Peggy
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 21:35:16 -0400 From: "Rick Puravs"
To: Subject: Shaktipat in Ohio
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I first got on this list back in May, thinking that reading this stuff would be good preperation for receiving a Shaktipat Initiation in August. I
want to thank all of you for all your postings, as you have contributed greatly to giving me some
background with which to undergo this experience. In light of what has happened i will
probably be contributing to this list more frequently.
My spiritual efforts in the past 30 or so years have seen as many stops as
starts. I have been all over the map in the things i have looked into or tried to practice. From
reading the postings on this list i have had to consider if perhaps my Kundalini was
already awakened, as this could possibly explain some of the experiences i have had.
These experiences include instances of feeling other peoples feelings....more than
empathy however......more like the feelings would be like a hologram in which i would
view in an instant the entire life of a person on sort of deeper level....at times it would
be just a flash, sometimes from the person, sometimes from an object i was looking at, or from being in their house. There have been a few times where
this has lasted for hours, the last time in February, when i was getting these impressions
from one person (usually i get this from women, as it was in this instance) after
another. I would tend to get overwhelmed and exhausted and then these impressions
would stop...or to escape the intensity i would go get some beer which would also
tend to put an end to it. The February episode was very sexual and i enjoyed it, even
considered the possibility of being in this state more frequently, thinking that if i
could somehow relax into it and flow with it that i would not become exhausted and
could continue in this state indefinitely. There have been other sorts of experiences
as well, some going back to when i was a child, others possibly drug induced in the
late 60's early 70's (i loved LSD, among other things). I had had some contact with Kundalini Yoga in the early 70s....visiting an
ashram in Ann Arbor for a couple weeks, learning an exercise and meditating with a
group of the (mostly) residents of the ashram, some of whom were undergoing kriyas.
Also around 1970 i went to some kind of a public meeting to see an "Eastern
teacher" and we sat on the floor with our eyes shut while he walked around and
touched us on the forehead. I was not sure what the purpose of this was at the time,
it was only when i read the postings on this list that i remembered that and thought
that maybe he was trying to perform Shaktipat on us. I have no idea if this man was
empowered to perform Shaktipat, or if that was even what he was trying to
do....however i felt nothing from it at the time, or subsequently was i able to relate anything
to that experience. While i considered that i have had a few experiences that could
possibly be explained by a K awakening, i would have to say that 99.9+% of the time
i felt nothing that i could relate to Kundalini....and reading that once the K is
awakened that She continues to do Her work....i thought maybe that wasn't it, as She
certainly had seemed pretty dormant most of my life.
I would say that the main influence on my spiritual efforts up until
recently has been tamas, as in inertia. The best thing i could say about it was that i would
always come back to it, again and again. However when i drove down to the Cleveland area
from northern Michigan last Thursday, i was certainly not accomplished in anything.
I attended two public meditation sessions with Shri Anandi Ma on Friday and
Saturday evenings. The chanting seemed to have a strong effect on me, but i struggled through the meditations as usual....with distracting thoughts,
aches and pains, the stuff i usually get. Cleveland was hot and humid, and there were
strong electrical storms (esp on Saturday) and downpours of rain. Sunday morning i
went to receive Shaktipat carrying fruit and roses. There were about 25 people
in our group. I was ready for it, but still a bit nervous. The ceremony was elaborate and
very beautiful and probably lasted a bit over 3 hours. What i felt seemed subtle at
first, but i have continued to feel it ever since. Mostly it is a feeling of prana flowing
in the brain. I drove about (200m) half way back home that Sunday, and got a room
at a motel in the western suburbs of Detroit....by then i had a headache and was
kind of out of it. The way people drove, for one thing, seemed to bother me a lot more
than before. It was all i could do to go through the check in procedure and get to the
room. Slept for an hour, but that didn't help. Decided to eat, looking up and down the
street at the usual array of Burger Kings, Arbys, Wendys, etc. and went into a Bob
Evans....well the fruit plate didn't seem to be what i needed, so there went the
vegitarian diet i was supposed to observe for 10 days. The headache went away
immediately and i felt much better, reading well into the night. Monday, in Ann Arbor,
i went to the Whole Foods grocery store and stocked up on stuff so i could at least
cut down on the amount of meat in my diet. Went to the Jewel Heart store (Tibetan
Buddhist) and the buzz in there was incredible....all the artwork and stuff....i seemed
to be just dripping Shakti....was looking for an altar, but couldn't find one....right now
i have 2 cassette cases (the Napa Valley type) back to back under a picture of
Vajrayogini which i'm using for an altar.....the rest of the drive home was helped
somewhat by the roads being quite empty once i got far enough up north. Today i
went back to work....and it was easier than i thought, at least at first. It seems like,
as with driving, if i have to focus on something (like work) hour after hour that it is
easy at first, but after a while it seems like the K wants to play or something and
starts getting restless, and i start drifting. Repeating a mantra like Ram Ramaya
Namaha, even once or twice, seems to lift up the top of my head.....creating a space
where the mantra seems to vibrate, and the prana rushes are intensified. I am in awe that this really worked, and that i have Shri Anandi Ma as a
guru. I am very grateful to her and her husband Dileepji, and her guru Shri Dhyanyogi
Madhusudandasji (1878-1994)...yes those years are correct....whose books i've
been reading, also in preperation for the Shaktipat. Some of what i wrote here is to show that a person does not have to be
particularly spiritualy accomplished to receive Shaktipat. I guess you have to be ready
for it, but the proof of that seems to be that you go and get it. They say it will work
on anybody. At this point i can just speak for myself. It worked on me.
Love and Light, Rick
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From: Gloria Greco To: "Sergio Lucio Maria (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent )"
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: brahmacarya and healing
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Sergio Lucio Maria (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote: >
> > It was interesting your fact to mention spontaneous combustion in its
> letter. I had been studying some thing through my mother. > She read a lot regarding that, I think that really has to do with
> kundalini and its letter made me to have more certainty of that. >
> So, I already heard to speak of cases paranormais with relationship to > this.
> It is a lot similar to it that you mentioned. However it is a different > factor because the fire can happen anywhere. For example in beds, houses,
> rooms and etc.
I think it is happening more because the frequencies are increased. It is a warning to be serious about kundalini and treat it with a great
deal of respect and detachment. Understanding that one must prepare a body; mind, emotions, physical, means that it is a process of cleaning
up the vehicles so that if a drastic eruption happens it doesn't just burn everything in its path. I'm sure this side effect will be seen more
which is really not necessary if there was more education about kundalini. There is way to much mystery around it, and since most do not
have God in the picture, it can be very scary to go it alone. Gloria Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 20:01:07 +0100
From: Gloria Greco To: Rick Puravs
CC: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Shaktipat in Ohio
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Rick, Welcome to the list, I don't believe we have shared before. It sounds like you are moving along with the experience. Don't under
estimate what can occur, self discipline is primary now. If you are getting more and more movement, it will increase for some drastically.
How do you do with your thoughts and emotions? Gloria Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 21:14:22 -0700
From: Morgana Wyze To: Anita Phillips
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Subtle sound
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Anita Phillips wrote: >
> Hi Morgana, >
> I think I missed the explanation of the subtle sound. I hear a very high > pitched "E" constantly and have for several years. I know the medical
> community has a name for this, but I am now wondering if it really has > something to do with K?
> > What is the subtle sound? Or where can I read about it??
> > Thanks!
> > Anita P., *:)
>
The "subtle sound" is not an audible sound wave, but a harmonic. When
our body harmonic reaches the resonance of pure quartz crystal. It is the secret of the great mystery schools, that the number of the universe
made manifest is nine. Matter=Energy. To convert matter to energy resonate the matter.
Matter resonates when a magnetic field (earth or our aura) has a field of energy (life force) applied at the resonance of quartz . The result
is three octaves with three harmonious notes in each octave for a total of nine resonant frequencies.
I draw this information from mystery school teachings and from tetrahedral geometry (when you don't need much sleep there's lots of
time to do esoteric research.) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 22:06:10
From: Who1W30555ATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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Thank you Would you also send some beginer excercises so I can tell if kundalini is the
right for of advancemet for me.
Evan Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 22:25:18
From: jaxx (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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hello Jason
>I read your post and resonated with many things you had to say. I too >have been interested in metaphysical stuff for several years now. My
>vision of auras and such has been limited until recently. I attended a >healing workshop by Barbara Brennan about a month and a half ago. Since
>then, I have been seeing more: brighter more vivid auras, more colors. I >am much more aware of the energy that is present in a room, around a
>person or from me. I have also been seeing things out of the corner of >my eyes; like a person just walked by when it's only me in my apartment.
>This last thing is a little eerie at times, but I remind myself that >it's probably a guide or an angel.
Marvellous! I too have sometimes seen things out the corner of my eye and
nothing was there. Sometimes I just get a feeling the someone or my guide (like right now as I am writing this he's over my shoulder) is at a place in
the room. It usually makes me smile when its my guide - though my contact with him is not that good yet.
>I too sense blocks in my lower two chakras. The second chakra (sacral?)
>is associated with sensuality and sexuality. Most people (including me) >have issues with these to deal with. Especially in American society, we
>suppress our sensual and sexual sides.
Blimey yes! While I live in New Zealand, my parents are English so I've got a lot of 'stuff' off them. (No slur intended for any english list members).
I know part of my blocked chakra is due to some childhood stuff (a medium I visited once told me it was carried over from a violent experience in a past
life... I dont know) so I'm dealing with what I can and wondering a little about the rest.
>At the workshop, they taught a variety of ways to charge our chakras and
>fields. The color of the first chakra is red and orange for the second. >Eating foods and wearing these colors helps charge these chakras. We
>also did "color breathing"; we breathed in a particular color, starting >with red (1), then orange (2), yellow (3) and so on. I noticed for me
>that some colors were easier to visualize me breathing in. I had an >especially difficult time with red, orange and sky blue (5). They also
>suggested we pay attention to the color we breathed out too...is it the >same color? brighter? darker?
Hmmmm... I was given and exercise where I visualise the colours and state
that the relevant chakra is open (working my way down) and then working back up again visualising turning a switch on for each chakra. I am noticing the
colours are easier to see and I now am feeling the energy at most (not all) of the chakras.
>Another thing you can do is spin your chakras in the right direction. To
>tell the direction they should be spinning, make a light fist with your >right hand and point your thumb at your body. The direction your curled
>fingers are pointing is the same as the direction of your chakras >spinning. This works for the rear chakras too. Visualize them as
>spinning vortexes that suck in the necessary energies.
This has me puzzled... I thought they spun like cogs in a machine... one clockwise then the next anti etc etc... so If a lower one was really
expanded it could force into action the one above...
>Good luck!
you too!
...jacqueline
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 22:25:37 From: jaxx (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent )
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Anger release
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Thank you to all the replies I recieved about opening up my lower chakras.
I had a 2hr Thai Massage session not long ago (she spotted my blocks quite easily) and a few days after that I have been experiencing feelings of
intense anger. This has lasted three solid days during which I've had stomach upsets, feeling hot and cold and drinking quite a bit of water. I
feel like I'm pacing inside and at times its felt like my whole body has been oozing out this anger.
I'm hoping its a chakra opening up and letting this out. I had day off yesterday and indulged in some retail therapy :-) yet
today I still feel something is in there still churning around. I'm also bloody tired!
Thanks Peggy for this..
>Welcome. My first kundalini episode included the same beautiful cobalt blue >light, and others on the list have reported the same experience. Being
>fairly new to kundalini, I have found the best help to be a book by John >Selby, "Kundalini Awakening: A Gentle Guide to Chakra Activation and
>Spiritual Growth," ISBN 0-553-35330-6.
I have put the book on order... Normally when I hear about books I tend to 'hum and ha' about getting them, using money excuses or 'I'll get around to
it'. But I was quite surprised at myself for just going out and ordering it. And
the 4 -6 weeks it will take to arrive didnt cause me to bat an eyelid. I feel its synchronicity at work and by the time it arrives I'll be at a ready
stage for it.
:-)
...jacqueline
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