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1997/08/09 01:30
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #387


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 387

Today's Topics:
  Re: question
  Unidentified subject!
  All the language BS
  Risposta: All the language BS
  Re: Risposta: All the language BS
  Re: OBE'S, Astril Projections
  Re: question
  Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
  RE: Risposta: All the language BS
  Re: K in public w/out ram\pont.ificatIONS...
  CFS Input
  the discipline of love
  All the language BS
  Re: Dancing in the Flames. . .a path to Mastery.
  being "touched"
  Language barriers.. mamihlapinatapai Enigma:#00 aka-
  XperIoweTAHDAH!!!.
  In the clutches of k
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 05:55:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: morganaATnospambest.com
Cc: Sharon Webb <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: question
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At 01:59 AM 8/8/97 -0700, Morgana Wyze wrote:
> It took a car accident that paralyzed me from the neck down to make me
>slow down and face the energies of kundalini. The accident injuries
>disapeared overnight when I accepted the energies of transformation into
>my body, but I was still in resistance.

Morgana,

You have always seemed amazing. Your story adds to it immensely. Could you
give us some more details about HOW you accepted the energies. It sounds
like we could learn a lot from the telling.

Thanks so much.

M

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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 06:03:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Unidentified subject!
Message-Id: <199708081303.GAA19298ATnospamgridsat.thegrid.net>
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At 01:59 AM 8/8/97 -0700, Morgana Wyze wrote:
> It took a car accident that paralyzed me from the neck down to make me
>slow down and face the energies of kundalini. The accident injuries
>disapeared overnight when I accepted the energies of transformation into
>my body, but I was still in resistance.

Morgana,

You have always seemed amazing. Your story adds to it immensely. Could you
give us some more details about HOW you accepted the energies. It sounds
like we could learn a lot from the telling.

Thanks so much.

M
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 11:06:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: DouglasMFATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: All the language BS
Message-ID: <970808110614_64670596ATnospamemout11.mail.aol.com>

Hello Everyone,

My computer has been down for a few days and upon my retun I saw the ranting
and raving about someone sending stuff out in portugese. I think it is odd
that these seemingly enlightened people who have so many non verbal
experiences would lend so much importance to someone's lengthy verbal
expression in another language. The dali lama told a story once about how
upon hearing other languages spoken that he does not understand he didn't
stop listening but listening more intently. He said that not understanding
something should give us focus and not the opposite. Just my two cents...
anyway

I have had some very strange dreams upon nights and nights sleeplessness.
 Does anyone know what a dream of a deer that changes into a panther that
attacks me means? I know it sounds a but odd but compared to last nights
dream where my dreaming body was putting its little hands into my physical
body to see what it was made of. I need to calm down...does anyone have any
suggestions?

-the final peace completes the whole
-d
Date: 8 Aug 97 17:13:47
From: Sen Ashanka/AIS spa/IT <Sen_AshankaATnospamAIS01.ais.it>
To: DouglasMF <DouglasMFATnospamaol.com>
Cc: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Risposta: All the language BS
Message-Id: <9708081615.AA0898ATnospamAIS01.ais.it>
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My dear Douglas,

>My computer has been down for a few days and upon my retun I saw the ranting
>and raving about someone sending stuff out in portugese. I think it is odd
>that these seemingly enlightened people who have so many non verbal
>experiences would lend so much importance to someone's lengthy verbal
>expression in another language. The dali lama told a story once about how
>upon hearing other languages spoken that he does not understand he didn't
>stop listening but listening more intently. He said that not understanding
>something should give us focus and not the opposite. Just my two cents...
>anyway

Aami bolte chai ki onno bhashaey kotha bolley jara ei chithi ta pode tara
kichhoo i bujhtey parey na. Ei chithi ta bechi moba noey kintu jinish ta hocchey
jey jodi amra shobbai ei ta podtey pari tobe kaj debe, noiley etar labh nei.

Aapni ki bujhtey parlen ami ki boltey chai ?

Nomoshkar
Ashanka Sen
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 08:56:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: Sen Ashanka/AIS spa/IT <Sen_AshankaATnospamAIS01.ais.it>
Cc: DouglasMF <DouglasMFATnospamaol.com>, kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Risposta: All the language BS
Message-Id: <199708081556.IAA22141ATnospamgridsat.thegrid.net>
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At 05:13 PM 8/8/97, Sen Ashanka/AIS spa/IT wrote:
>My dear Douglas,
>
>Aami bolte chai ki onno bhashaey kotha bolley jara ei chithi ta pode tara
>kichhoo i bujhtey parey na. Ei chithi ta bechi moba noey kintu jinish ta
hocchey
>jey jodi amra shobbai ei ta podtey pari tobe kaj debe, noiley etar labh nei.

>Aapni ki bujhtey parlen ami ki boltey chai ?
>
>Nomoshkar
>Ashanka Sen
>
>
 A mi tampoco!! Yah y ha ha, no?

M
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 10:36:13 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: "by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>" <TPp4tATnospamaol.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: OBE'S, Astril Projections
Message-ID: <33EAE88C.447EATnospamintercomm.com>

> In my apprentice days, I found another and got into this higer form of
> travel. It was fine to see the mountians, seas, and void with him. The
> projections became stonger and longer. With a kindrid spirit this was fine!
> However, I then started to detatch from my friend as we flew futher away
> from our earthly bodies and got futher into what I call the void. That place
> that is but isn't. The place that has no form understandable to human
> beings.
> At the conclusion of my last flight, I had to race back to my earthly body.
> I was being persued by something that wanted to take my place in the
> sleeping body that was mine. Very scarry. The thread, we are connected to
> our bodies per a fine thread/cord, grows thiner the futher one goes away from
> this earth. I have heard that there are more enties around today and this is
> a dynamic time.
> Just some thoughts and experiences. A caution from my limited experiences.
> Maybe that I will fly again to the void but, I will make sure that I have a
> fellow traveler with. Strength and gounding in numbers.
> LLLLSS
> TPp4t

The other alternative is to become aware of frequencies and develop the
knowing on the other side to cammand the forces. This is what it is all
about. You are a spirit/soul working in a body which is only a vehicle.
What you are is that which is out in the spirit world, that part of you
has the ability to self remember. This way you become that which you are
but don't remember, and then you are not at risk. Does this make sense?
Gloria
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 10:45:12
From: WAR111ATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: question
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970808104512.2fff742aATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

After it has risen, and you have many new experiences,and a lot of new
knowledge, some times it will leave you for awhile, this is known as the Dark
Night of the Soul, you can search this out. When you can handle another step
up, it will return. The K is not the same with everyone, with some it never
stops. May the Great Light guide your path to enlightenment. Any futher
questions, please contact me I am always at your service.

A Brother in Light
 WAR
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 10:46:14
From: Stephen Kandul <kandulATnospamg-net.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970808104614.30673036ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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lee-

how do you do the breath of fire?

marsha
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 10:43:06
From: "Wright, James 7929" <JwrightATnospamphelpsd.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: Risposta: All the language BS
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970808104306.30679e8eATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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I take it that you agree, then? <VBG!>
james

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Aami bolte chai ki onno bhashaey kotha bolley jara ei chithi ta pode tara

kichhoo i bujhtey parey na. Ei chithi ta bechi moba noey kintu jinish ta
hocchey
jey jodi amra shobbai ei ta podtey pari tobe kaj debe, noiley etar labh
nei.

Aapni ki bujhtey parlen ami ki boltey chai ?

Nomoshkar
Ashanka Sen
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 10:50:07
From: phillialATnospamucrwcu.rwc.uc.edu (Anita Phillips) (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: K in public w/out ram\pont.ificatIONS...
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970808105007.306741e2ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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Hi --brEYEnd!

Yep, that's a good Joycianesque demo of what I meant by "leap-frogging at
WARP speed!"

Luv it! More, more! (Tell me how you do this and keep food on the table
and in the cat bowl? I haven't found my way, yet...but looking...?)

Not yet fully bilingual...AND not wishing to be mistaken as bipolar...

Anita P., *:)

--brEYEnd pr0stir wrote (presented here semi-contextually):

"(^the prescriptions are not "for"... but to aVOID this sort of awareness.
(^mental health isn't the same as spiritual re-newal. ask a sufi.". . .
[YEP!]

"cw>...Did you say that this condition of yours causes you to
cw> to lose the ability to communicate?
cw> You may have been severely misdiagnosed.
cw>You should look into this immediately.". . . [YEP!]

"(^S0 ADDjust...`feal `. anythinKg ." [YEP!]
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 14:30:03 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: CFS Input
Message-ID: <33EB65AB.4540ATnospammail.snet.net>

Thank you to all who have given a great deal and vast array

of information and ideas regarding my question about cfs.

I am passing along all your input.

Love ya,
David
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 20:30:47 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: the discipline of love
Message-ID: <Gz40GiAnP36zEw2RATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>

THE DISCIPLINE OF LOVE

through love anything can be transformed and healed

through judgement and alienation we create centres of darkness

we are here to join in relationship which means responding to eachother

we are here to love and serve humanity as a whole

it is a question of how we can be useful in raising the frequency of the
planteary life forms

it is this simple my friends

Yogi Tom

this is a teaching known as the discipline of love
--
Tom Aston
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 16:21:57 -0400
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx)
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: All the language BS
Message-ID: <19970808.162201.3286.17.imtgATnospamjuno.com>

Douglas wrote...

>>The dali lama told a story once about how upon hearing other languages
spoken that he does not understand he didn't stop listening but listening
more intently.

Note that the Dali Lama said 'hearing other languages spoken', not
'reading other languages spoken...".

flaloha,
xxxtg

'Wasting time is an important part of life..."

http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgshome.html <~~~~ on the web now!
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 18:27:06 -0700
From: Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
To: susan carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Dancing in the Flames. . .a path to Mastery.
Message-id: <1.5.4.32.19970809012706.006e6088ATnospamoregon.uoregon.edu>
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At 04:28 PM 8/7/97 -0700, susan carlson wrote:

>In my own experience, my anger was trapped under something very
>calloused. After wearing away the callous, the anger underneath was
>pretty raw and I was like a kid with a new toy, cause yes, it does
>feel good when it is coming out.

You are right to let it out. Suppressing anger is far more distructive than
expressing it. Still, anger does have some physiological consequences,
especially with chronicity.

>I have had my own definite healing experiences from doing my own anger
>path. After one session, I walked by a mirror and stood transfixed as
>I stared at myself. My eyes had become very clear and bright. Since
>then, a lot of bodily aches and pains have left. I no longer have
>high blood pressure.

Amen, stuffing your anger is deadly.

>IMO, mastering the energy of anger is just like learning to ride a
>bike. It takes practice. People will fall down, have accidents, but
>they gotta keep getting back up on the bike. Be circumspect in using
>anger as a tool of destruction ( a valid use IMO). I think this is
>because anger calls people into action. Anger in and of itself is not
>the problem. Its what people decide to do with it is.
>
>Being irresponsible in expression of anger is inexcusable. Such a
>powerful emotion can be a channel for good and for transformation.
>
>I have discovered I am never angry for the reason I think.

Susan, you are absolutly correct.
There are very few direct activators of anger.
Defense of physical attack is one.
Anger is another.

>It's not my fault that they get mad.

It is most certainly not your fault.
Nature, evolution, God designed us in such a way that
anger is the specific innate activator of anger.
It is automatic;
If I perceive you expressing anger towards me,
I will automatically become angry myself.
Hopefully, I will engage my big neocortex
and override the innate response,
but it will require effort on my part.

>What triggers the anger is not the what appears on the surface. Normally,
I >feel angry when I feel afraid of loss. I feel small and helpless, or I
feel >less than. How dare they make me feel that way!!!!!!!

Internalized shame is something we aquire in the developomental process.
It is a sickness of the soul.
It has been characterized as a "hole in the soul."
Heal you self structure.
They cannot make you feel anything.
You do it to yourself.

I know.
I have been doing it to myself for fifty years.

>People who are angry are telling me they feel unloved in some
>core way. This includes me. Adults are just wounded children in that
>respect.

You already know the truth.

>I have become too adept at self examination and discover the core of the
>anger very quickly now. THe anger is diffused almost automatically.
>THe anger burns away the old fears and reveals more of my true
>essence.

Your growing self-worth and self-esteem is the truth about your essence.
That is what overrides fear.

>Don't beat yourself up for being angry. That doesn't help. If other
>people are offended by your emotion/energy... too bad.

Too bad indeed.
It is their great loss that they do not have the opportunity to know
the real Susan who is tender, sensitive, and incredibly intelligent.

It is also too bad Susan will not get to know them.

>Again, act responsibly with this powerful energy.

Dear Susan, you have grown dramatically.
I sense you will continue to grow a great deal more.
If you wish to have power, grow the the next level.
After that, you may see even more levels to reach for.
If you want power, learn.

I include a typology of anger scripts.
Which scripts are yours?

There is only one that is truly powerful.

Love and Joy,
Ken

 A Typology of Anger Scripts

RATIONAL NON-RESPONSIVE: This script calls for the rational analysis and
reframing of stimuli in a way that anger is not activated at all.

NON-RESPONSIVE-ANHEDONIC: This is a condition arising from either complete
reduction of mismatch response saliency, as with a true psychopath, or
neurohumoral system shutdown manifest as numbing and/or dissociative state.

CONDITIONED RESPONSE BY-PASS: The rules of this script say that anger is an
unacceptable emotion and high density responses, normally activating anger,
must remain on the distress-anguish continuum.

SUPPRESSED ANGER RESPONSE: The script rule here is that anger is experienced
but not expressed; the anger is "stuffed".

REACTIONARY ANGER RESPONSE: This defensive response permits unmodulated
expression of anger when activated.

TACTICAL ANGER RESPONSE: The rules of this script call for the tactical
expression of anger in amounts required to avoid or terminate affectively
painful stimuli. Often this script is used in arguments with a partner when
the partner is activating shame responses.

STRATEGIC or INSTRUMENTAL ANGER: This script has rules that call for the
expression of anger in order to systematically control others in a way that
is goal directed.

TRAIT ANGER: The development of personality has organized, to some extent,
around anger affect and anger is scripted as the dominant response to most
stimuli. The individual with this personality type is in a heightened state
of sympathetic activation.
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 21:28:46
From: "Enid" <wynATnospamgate.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: being "touched"
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970808212846.0907d438ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Dear Folks,

Since I was a young adult strange things took place which I did not
understand. My mother who was into pyschic phenomemum took me to Duke
University for paranormal studies in the 70's. We were advised that I
could be considered a precognate and transceiver. I never really knew what
this meant. Concurrently, I was practicing Hatha Yoga with a Master
Instructor during that time which strengthen this gift. All went dormant
when I reached 25. I was reawakened at 50. My energies are running amuck
out of control. I would like to share 2 recent instances with you for
reflection,

Just a bit of background. I am a 50 yr young female who is a chauffeur by
profession. I was taking a couple and their family to a reaffirmation of
their wedding vows for their 25th anniversary. We went to a Catholic
Church. The family invited me to witness this ceremony which I did. I had
a religious experience which began with the priest's sermon directed to the
couple but he focused in on me. There was an instant need to leave the
chapel. I went out to my limo and began prep work. I immediately felt a
"presence" enter my soul and mind. There was no one visible. I found
myself having an annimated discussion. I kept looking at the archway which
is directly attached to the main sanctuary. I kept looking at the clouded
gray sky. For some reason I had been given an audience with G-d. The
conversation dealt with my private life and lasted approximately 10
minutes. The only thing I know the presence did not stem from an
earthbound soul. Why I wonder.

The next incident occurred several days ago while I was at my nail tech's
home. While I was getting pampered the aroma of roses came directly
between her and I. Now her house is odor free of floral fragrance. I
brought my hands to my face and there was this strong scent of the roses.
I found that just before this occurrance happened I would get exceedingly
warm. The situation prevailed itself for about 2 hours. Now I am familiar
with the STIGMATA and ROSES which are equated with Christ. Why should this
happen to me? I was totally thrown but these to happenings.

I am a newbie and a noviatiate to the kundalini energies rising. I know I
have traveld astril and etherial not alot but some. I can sense, feel, and
visualize situations very clearly at times not all the time. My best
friend, who is a minister, feels I may have been blessed (touched) by G-D
and Christ. How could this be? I am Jewish and hold onto my faith as
wellas to the many paranormal instances that have presented themselves to
me in the past year. What do you think. Thank you.
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 21:30:53
From: kNOTof_IMPORTence <wakemupATnospameskimo.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Language barriers.. mamihlapinatapai Enigma:#00 aka-
  XperIoweTAHDAH!!!.
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970808213053.27678b7aATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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(^ok.. enough on the belief that what we know
(^and how to speak whatEHver... is enough.

(^I'm about to traNZart send what led me to K-list.
(^it may explain why the portuguese rift ripped my heart.
(^but, at same time, I see it's need.
((^not 4him.. for USe... to examine how we cope with..

((^ IT ^))

(^when we see a problem, MUST we turn our backs
(^and claim it doesn't matter? ..or.. with a
(^ little ingenuity, can we SOLVE it?

(^sometimes, to problem solve, eWE have to
(^ experience the problem, in order to empathize
(^ to the point of taking action for our OWN trauma.

(^get sick enough to need/find the cure. yup.
(^ old shaman/organic chemist/ herbalist's way.
(^sacrifice one's own to the powers we trip over/through.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
((^for those of USe that have better things to do than "get it"
((^unless you WANT to understand as well as be understood^))
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

(^..Throw this post away. It's not in english.

((^It's not in binomial nor bin-hex, either^))
(^nor does it have attachments of .zip files,
(^ nor image/audio formatted .mpeg/.mov/.avi/.vid
(^no .wav, .tra, nor .lwo nor .vrml....
(^I even cut out .html ... no links. sorry netscapers.

(^I even abstained from utilizing any ascii art.

((^..that's right.. images DESIGNED
((^ to be read/seen in ascii formate^))

(^..but it (^this send^) is STILL a unix/mix.

(^.. I..may not speak /type/comprehend
(^that many human based languages..
(^but, that's what translators are for, right?
(^simplicity for clarity...
((^ in the midst of foggy impressionistic vibrations...^))
========
"Language ..is a Virus.. from Outer... sPACE....
' and.. SOMEtimes,.. HEARing your NAME, is..
' BETter..than...SEEing.. your.. FACE."
      -->William S Burroughs
(by way of Laurie Anderson ..."Home of the Brave" music video
=========
tg>Note that the Dali Lama said 'hearing other languages spoken',
tg> not 'reading other languages spoken...".
>

(^I wonder what would have happened,
(^if all the translations of sacred books never happened?
(^What if, the Koran, the BahG'd'Avid, the Torrah, Book of Morman,
(Voltaire's Candide, Don Quixote, and the Adventures of Pinocchio,
(^were never published outside of the original scriber's native tongue?
(^
(^would that have kept us all in our separate post/Babylonic corners? no
mixing?

tg>flaloha,... xxxtg
(^then capped off with the ambiguous "flaloha"... te.he.she.IT!

tg>'Wasting time is an important part of life..."

(^reminds us to "wnder"... yes.

((^ spleck ` wnder ` = wonder, wander, winder, under,
   wader, wanders, wider, winders,
   wonders, waders, wanner, wanter,
   wended, wincer, winded, +windier.

((^*! or sub/splecked: = wonder, under, order, water

(sub/splecked=another trick to open/contract word possibility
 (^through the use of Eudorah Pro's spell checker: )

(^..*!... hmmn.. sounds rather fluidous.^)

((^..I'm gonnah LOVE playing with the foreign language stuff!...
((^... you think any of it is misspelled? hee hee..^))
 
(^enough wind out of me present. tHere. have me past.
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>Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997
>X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2
((^my spleckNzeDUTCHmangler^))

>/mute (^for those who believe,..
(^that movement is worth a thousand pictographs^))

>Content-Type: text/plain; char set="us-ascii"
((^&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

(^complaining is as much a compliment as cheering,
(^and is most likely more useful than the shocked silence
(^ that comes from hear/see/touch/taste/testing
(^ something too astounding for word conveyances.

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

>From: Quest4FiringRange <wakemupATnospameskimo.com>
>Subject: mamihlapinatapai Enigma:
> does being mute enhance PASSIVITY?
>Sender: owner-awakenATnospamawaken.org((^anic.not organization.^))
>Precedence: bulk
 ((^as in for the mass consumer.
(^ NOT for the shepherds that lead lambs to the slaughterhouse.^))
***********************

>Seth> "In the Feugian language of South America, the hardest
>Seth> word to translate is /mamihlapinatapai/, which roughly
>Seth> means 'staring at each other hoping the other person
>Seth> will volunteer to do something which both people would
>Seth> like but which each is unwilling to do.'"
>
>From: Seth Graham <setherATnospami-connect.netSeth>
>Subject: Language
>
>Seth> It doesn't happen often, but sometimes, it does.
>(^someone sends me a piece of foreign mail.
>
>(^>< And when it does, I tend to spend energy trying to decipher it.
>(^>< I've got this strange fascination with finding language barriers
>(^>< that can't be described into comprehention by naming it.
>(^>< feeling(s)/concept(s)/thinK(s) that I'll never be able to share.
>
http://users.aol.com/ckress/st.html
>
>(^..huh. interesting.
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((^^back in present, Sonny... (^*..why do you lie to me, sonny?*^)

(^I work in the TV special effects industry.
(^once, our client was a Japanese firm. They'd send their dirrections
(^ through a japanese-to-spanish computer program, and that in turn,
(^ was put through a spanish-to-english translater BOT.

(^although some of it gets garbled, the gyst got through.
((^example:
  ><Scene 7: Beautiful lady
  ><Beautiful noble lady is leaning against the wall.
  ><Her face is fair, finely-chiselled features,
  ><like the Virgin Maria.
  ><She closes her eyes, and looking downward.
  ><Suddenly, her eyes open widely,
  ><looks upward slowy, laughing eerie.
  ><Her pupil is sharpen like cat's eye and it's bloodshot.
  ><Her laugh is high-pitched and stretches her hands to strangle our necks. "
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(^we took the Virgin Mary line a bit too far..
(^ we named the 3D object "VirginMaria.lwo" fer fun!
(^and then, made the image actually LOOK like a statue of the Madonna.
(^.. I... uh.. had to animate that. I'm an iconoclast, fer sure.
 (^so?
(^just because we CAN understand, doesn't mean we HAVE to.

(^I even ran into a swami at a rainbow gathering, once,
(^that claimed to have written a sanscrit translater program in BASIC!
 (^talk about lost languages transcribbing lost messages!

(^but, my point, is.. if we CHOOSE to , we COULD
(^find a portuguese-to-english de-coder.

(^AH, well... I admit that the REST of the reasons posted for
(^"please lurk: no talkie" might have more bearing on the kickstrike zone.

(^most likely, the portugeser has an english-to-portugese filter,
(^and simply assumed that americans wouldn't be so stupid
(^as to not have the opposite available to them.

(^I ran into this problem when coping with PKzip files
(^ before I found out about self extracting.

(^...and then, I had to learn the reality of all SORTS of
(^de-babbling... conversion packages for image formattes...
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(^sigh. ok. Re: cashflo per e-mail... OUCH!
(^I completely forgot about those days in my past... sorry.

(^ Back when I was only on Aol from Bayard, Nebraska,
(^where just to connect I had to make a long distance call,
(^I'd NEVER have joined a mailing list. too expensive.

(^I'll post less often.
(^THAT'll "cure" it. right?

(^Thanks for the place to post, tho.

((^ps.. hee hee.. just highlight the caps in this message..
(^the rest was dross in the wind..
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 23:13:27
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: In the clutches of k
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>Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 00:35:55 -0400
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>Hi,
>
>Please post this anonymously. Thanks.
>
>--------------------
>
>Something very odd began to happen on Wed. morning. About 11:30
>AM, I was walking through the house when suddenly I was engulfed in an
>enormously intense sexual energy. I had two spontaneous climaxes within a
>few minutes of each other. The same thing happened on Thursday morning.
>Today, just before noon it happened again, but this time it just didn't
>want to stop. When it got up to twelve, I said, "I can't keep on this way.
> I have to go to the grocery!" I had a grotesque vision of myself in the
>store, squeezing a tomato while in insane ecstasy, seeds and juice
>squirting everywhere. Mercifully, it stopped, but then came back for two
>more about four PM. Good God, almighty! What in hell am I to make of all
>this?
>
>Anyway, the noon marathon *did* do an awful lot to lift my bedraggled
>spirits.
>I'm so thankful for that. Begged Shakti to hold off these kinds of things
>while I was in public, lest I scandalize everyone.
>
>---------------------
>
>

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
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  Swami Beyondananda on the Golden Rule: "It seems that when
masochists do unto others as they wish to be done unto, they
become sadists," the Swami said. "Consequently, the Golden Rule
has been recalled by the Maker until this design flaw can be fixed."
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 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.

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